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Too much used ram

Hello guys, I just bought a new s4 mini and I downloaded all my apps. However I see that I only got 100-200mb free ram unless I use a task killer. This uses up battery and heats up the phone when I'm using it... what can I do to free up some ram without losing it again to Google and Samsung services? It runs stock 4.2.2 jb and I don't really wanna lose the warranty because I just bought it...if you suggest flashing a custom rom then I'd prefer one that is easy to update and there is no need to re-install everything after flashing or updating.
Thanks in advance
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OverdiveKill said:
Hello guys, I just bought a new s4 mini and I downloaded all my apps. However I see that I only got 100-200mb free ram unless I use a task killer. This uses up battery and heats up the phone when I'm using it... what can I do to free up some ram without losing it again to Google and Samsung services? It runs stock 4.2.2 jb and I don't really wanna lose the warranty because I just bought it...if you suggest flashing a custom rom then I'd prefer one that is easy to update and there is no need to re-install everything after flashing or updating.
Thanks in advance
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Many people will always recommend custom roms!
About upgrading and flashing it's often the same hassle like process!
I'd really suggest you get cm11 i hope you've the lte version since cm11 is for the lte.
I wouldn't really recommend to use the nightly version even if it's the newest cause it contains bugs sometimes!
I'd recommend to use the snapshot versions and only upgrade if there is a new snapshot version, latest snapshot is m6. :good:
If you still want to stay on stock I think there are a few apps available for improvement, but I don't know any.

Aronuser said:
Many people will always recommend custom roms!
About upgrading and flashing it's often the same hassle like process!
I'd really suggest you get cm11 i hope you've the lte version since cm11 is for the lte.
I wouldn't really recommend to use the nightly version even if it's the newest cause it contains bugs sometimes!
I'd recommend to use the snapshot versions and only upgrade if there is a new snapshot version, latest snapshot is m6. :good:
If you still want to stay on stock I think there are a few apps available for improvement, but I don't know any.
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so I have to re install all my apps,contacts and all that even when I'm updating? Damn I'm a busy man, I got no time or patience to do all that... What's the snapshot version? Do I have to unlock my bootloader and/or risk bricking my new phone forever? And yes I think I got the lte model. I have GT-I9195
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Care to link me to the cm11 thread? And is it official cm?
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OverdiveKill said:
so I have to re install all my apps,contacts and all that even when I'm updating? Damn I'm a busy man, I got no time or patience to do all that... What's the snapshot version? Do I have to unlock my bootloader and/or risk bricking my new phone forever? And yes I think I got the lte model. I have GT-I9195
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Snapshot versions are the newest more stable versions than nightlies. The most stable versions are "stable versions"!
If you've a branded phone I'm not sure if you can flash it on them. You "could" risk bricking it forever but only in a chance of maybe 99%, if you don't overclock it or else. :good:
You'll also most likely loose your warranty, especially if you not live in the EU.
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OverdiveKill said:
Care to link me to the cm11 thread? And is it official cm?
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Yes it's official and snapshot versions are very stable (select the snapshot link on the website or even stable if you like)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558685

I live in Europe, got it from orange but use it with Vodafone so I don't think it's locked. What do I need to do to install a stable rom? And what's an easy way to have my apps and stuff back after upgrading? And do I need to unlock my bootloader?
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OverdiveKill said:
so I have to re install all my apps,contacts and all that even when I'm updating? Damn I'm a busy man, I got no time or patience to do all that... What's the snapshot version? Do I have to unlock my bootloader and/or risk bricking my new phone forever? And yes I think I got the lte model. I have GT-I9195
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Oh and about the contacts!
You can export the contacts! And then import again! Other data would be lost, BUT you could use Titanium Backup for saving apps etc. but i didn't try it yet. Titanium Backup needs a rooted phone though.
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OverdiveKill said:
I live in Europe, got it from orange but use it with Vodafone so I don't think it's locked. What do I need to do to install a stable rom? And what's an easy way to have my apps and stuff back after upgrading? And do I need to unlock my bootloader?
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Make sure you don't have any special version like "verizon" etc. . If you've a locked bootloader I'm not sure if it's possible or not, I hope somebody else knows.
You need a custom recovery, I used TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678420, even though the cm team doesn't recommend it for their rom, they recommend CWM.
When you installed a custom recovery, follow the steps in the cm thread. Thats all

Why do you recommend twrp? And how do I see if my bootloader is locked?I come from an Xperia go which had a locked one and i had to unlock it
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OverdiveKill said:
I live in Europe, got it from orange but use it with Vodafone so I don't think it's locked. What do I need to do to install a stable rom? And what's an easy way to have my apps and stuff back after upgrading? And do I need to unlock my bootloader?
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I'd also recommend to install this kernel after you've flashed cm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2568479
It'll make your phone superfast and battery saving!!
I've 30% battery use a whole day with mid-range phone usage.
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OverdiveKill said:
Why do you recommend twrp
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I recommend TWRP since it has a great menu which is easy to handle.
And I think it also has more functions!!
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OverdiveKill said:
Why do you recommend twrp? And how do I see if my bootloader is locked?I come from an Xperia go which had a locked one and i had to unlock it
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I'd also recommend to change the governor and i/o once you installed the new kernel
i use smartassh2 as governor and sioplus as i/o just now

Aronuser said:
I'd also recommend to install this kernel after you've flashed cm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2568479
It'll make your phone superfast and battery saving!!
I've 30% battery use a whole day with mid-range phone usage.
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I recommend TWRP since it has a great menu which is easy to handle.
And I think it also has more functions!!
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I'd also recommend to change the governor and i/o once you installed the new kernel
i use smartassh2 as governor and sioplus as i/o just now
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Yeah but on the thread it says flash only with cwm or your phone could be bricked
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OverdiveKill said:
Yeah but on the thread it says flash only with cwm or your phone could be bricked
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If you wanna stay safe, do it.
I flashed with TWRP, and had no issues!
If you decide for TWRP I'd suggest to use the one I liked you to, cause here are 2
I need to leave just now, I'm back in 1 hour :good:

Aronuser said:
If you wanna stay safe, do it.
I flashed with TWRP, and had no issues!
If you decide for TWRP I'd suggest to use the one I liked you to, cause here are 2
I need to leave just now, I'm back in 1 hour :good:
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Yeah, I wanna be safe so no thanks...
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You can save some RAM by put app into deep sleep when not active: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
I recommended to use the donate version as you can freeze system app and has more feature. You will need to root the phone, this is a safe method without voiding your warranty if you have knox: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Alternatively if you have no clue: http://www.kingoapp.com/

TNCS said:
You can save some RAM by put app into deep sleep when not active: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
I recommended to use the donate version as you can freeze system app and has more feature. You will need to root the phone, this is a safe method without voiding your warranty if you have knox: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Alternatively if you have no clue: http://www.kingoapp.com/
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what... is this a legit site? One click root? Have you used it? what's Knox?
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OverdiveKill said:
what... is this a legit site? One click root? Have you used it? what's Knox?
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read about knox here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2750744
I wouldn't recommend kingoapp or vroot because xda assumed they steal data
If you like to install a good keyboard for cm11 i'd suggest you install this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708805
Make sure to use the flashable zip, not the single file below it.
Clear dalvic cache before flashing the kernel and before flashing the keyboard

Aronuser said:
read about knox here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2750744
I wouldn't recommend kingoapp or vroot because xda assumed they steal data
If you like to install a good keyboard for cm11 i'd suggest you install this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708805
Make sure to use the flashable zip, not the single file below it.
Clear dalvic cache before flashing the kernel and before flashing the keyboard
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And how do I root my phone without voiding the warranty? And safely? I like touch wiz so Idk if I will install cm11
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OverdiveKill said:
And how do I root my phone without voiding the warranty? And safely? I like touch wiz so Idk if I will install cm11
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There are one or a few safe root methods in the s4 mini forum here, search please. I don't know a link just now.
By the way, i think it's not 100% sure that you'll keep your warranty even if you use a safe root method. Since your phone is modified, even if it not knoxed up.

There's only one method on 'Saferoot', no other, and I already provide the link. It not for everyone if a person dones't know what they doing.
If you have no proof on Kingo stealing data, please don't spread the rumor. Personally I only don't like Kongo is because it is using the Saferoot method but they don't give the proper credit to the author, and they deny it now. I still remember one of the Kingo author was posting here on XDA.
To trust it or not it up to you, I know plenty people here on S4 mini is using it. I only recommened it becuase it a lot easier than the original Saferoot, and you seems to have no clue on what you doing. There's already plenty info we giving here, please don't expect us to spoon feeed all the time.

Aronuser said:
read about knox here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2750744
I wouldn't recommend kingoapp or vroot because xda assumed they steal data
If you like to install a good keyboard for cm11 i'd suggest you install this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708805
Make sure to use the flashable zip, not the single file below it.
Clear dalvic cache before flashing the kernel and before flashing the keyboard
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What do you mean by stealing data though?
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Can I flash a T-Mobile ROM on my AT&T Note 3

I'm unlocked and still on 4.3, and I'm wondering whether or not I can use a T-Mobile ROM on my Note 3 without borking it. I'm on TMob right now and it's working great, I just hate these unnecessary AT&T apps. Would it make sense to flash a new ROM and modem or simply remain content as is?
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monkor said:
I'm unlocked and still on 4.3, and I'm wondering whether or not I can use a T-Mobile ROM on my Note 3 without borking it. I'm on TMob right now and it's working great, I just hate these unnecessary AT&T apps. Would it make sense to flash a new ROM and modem or simply remain content as is?
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If your main or only reason to switch to a tmobile rom is
to get rid of at&t bloatware then why not simply go to the
playstore and download/install "NoBloat" to get rid of all
the at&t unnecessary and unwanted apps.
Here is the direct download link for "NoBloat":
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tvkdevelopment.nobloatfree
Goodl luck!

Well it's that and that I would like to essentially turn this into a T-Mobile phone. Seems like you guys have more ROMs than the AT&T version, and I'd like to fix whatever I need to so I can just flash T-Mobile ROMs and not bork my phone. Figured there were some modem issues or something that I needed to fix

Also I forgot to say thank you for the debloating app!

[Q] Unrestricted tethering with latest firmware.

I've just received new note 3 from T-Mobile (w/ $100 off promotion).
What's the best or easiest way to have unrestricted tethering with unlimied data plan for latest firmware? Thanks!!

Best and easiest way, call up tmobile and have them add more tethering data!
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SithDagger said:
Best and easiest way, call up tmobile and have them add more tethering data!
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I'll look around for the mod or app for rooted Note 3 w/ latest firmware then...

etichola said:
I'll look around for the mod or app for rooted Note 3 w/ latest firmware then...
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Easiest and most overlooked way is to root and install xposed
framework then download and enable X Tether it just starts the devices tethering without going though the T-Mobile account verification

Thanks!!

I just got the Note 3 myself.
I hope someone could clarify if I'm seeing the situation correctly...
If I don't want to trip the Knox counter, but I want to mod through Xposed, then I'm just flying blind without a custom recovery, right? There are no other reliable ways to back up my device before tinkering with Xposed?

Why'd you root?

So a question I've been curious about, Why'd you root? Did you root to use apps that require root or did you do it to install awesome custom ROMs? Did you to it for any other reason?
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Zbor said:
So a question I've been curious about, Why'd you root? Did you root to use apps that require root or did you do it to install awesome custom ROMs? Did you to it for any other reason?
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The first reason is the addiction to custom roms..

I cannot stand stock ROMs and I wanted the latest version of android.

Zbor said:
So a question I've been curious about, Why'd you root? Did you root to use apps that require root or did you do it to install awesome custom ROMs? Did you to it for any other reason?
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Because why not? It's a Linux based software, we should do whatever we can to it to make it better! Root, install custom ROMs, build ROMs, modify them, kernels, everything! For a better "UX" - User Experience

a few reasons:
1. Custom Roms! Its fun....
2. I dont mind stock roms... but I hate the stock firmware that the service providers provide on the phone (bloatware and locked down functionality, etc...)
3. and as you mentioned, many good apps require root. Such as titanium back up which I love using.

I just had to go back to stock as I was soft bricked, and after less than 24 hours I can't stand the bloatware, I have to enter my APN info (CM includes a bunch from the get-go), and tethering doesn't authorize. So I'm on XDA looking for the root procedure and I'll be looking for the (hopefully) perfect ROM soon.

The phone is old enough, maybe you won't get lollipop and every other major update.With root you can get whatever you want.

at&t bloatware removed firmware

hi all
yeaterday i bought like new N920A which is has unlocked sim.
i came here for rooting and surprised that it cant root anymore.
but the confusing think is my note 5 has a firmware without at&t bloatware completely and even the bootanimation is samsung logo without at&t logo...it has firmware like international version...and has august 2016 security patch.with knox 0*0 and official firmware
how did they did that?i searched in internet only found method to disable the apps ??
iam afraid from updating in odin and all att bloatware return.so any idea about this?because u know cant do ota update cuz i dont have att sim ....
thanks

samsung lo said:
hi all
yeaterday i bought like new N920A which is has unlocked sim.
i came here for rooting and surprised that it cant root anymore.
but the confusing think is my note 5 has a firmware without at&t bloatware completely and even the bootanimation is samsung logo without at&t logo...it has firmware like international version...and has august 2016 security patch.with knox 0*0 and official firmware
how did they did that?i searched in internet only found method to disable the apps ??
iam afraid from updating in odin and all att bloatware return.so any idea about this?because u know cant do ota update cuz i dont have att sim ....
thanks
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Better make sure you didn't buy a fake phone because what you're saying is impossible to do withoutroot. What's the Baseband and kernel version of the phone?

MrMike2182 said:
Better make sure you didn't buy a fake phone because what you're saying is impossible to do withoutroot. What's the Baseband and kernel version of the phone?
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i dont think its fake...
Baseband version
N920AUCS3BPH4
Kernel version
3.10.61-7563702
[email protected] #1
Wed Aug 10 12:41:02 KST 2016
i added at&t update to ensure that its not fake.
i check also the imei of device and its original.

samsung lo said:
i dont think its fake...
Baseband version
N920AUCS3BPH4
Kernel version
3.10.61-7563702
[email protected] #1
Wed Aug 10 12:41:02 KST 2016
i added at&t update to ensure that its not fake.
i check also the imei of device and its original.
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That's weird.. I don't have an answer for that unless AT&T decided to remove all their bloatware from that firmware baseband which is highly unlikely lol. Maybe someone else might know.

MrMike2182 said:
That's weird.. I don't have an answer for that unless AT&T decided to remove all their bloatware from that firmware baseband which is highly unlikely lol. Maybe someone else might know.
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i have headache
theres no one in world exept me has this weird situation.
can i update by adb.?
does it has unlocked boatloader?
can judge from the attachment pic.?

samsung lo said:
i have headache
theres no one in world exept me has this weird situation.
can i update by adb.?
does it has unlocked boatloader?
can judge from the attachment pic.?
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You can update the firmware by using adb sideload but I don't think it's a good idea really because it's awfully weird that you have no bloatware on it.. And the bootloader is locked. You can also use odin on a Windows pc to flash the firmware while it's in download mode like that but like I said I'd be careful because you can't make a full system image backup without root and twrp so if something goes wrong there is no going back so just be sure you want to do something before doing it..

It's possible the device you have was sideloaded with an early bloat free build of whatever version you are on. If you update you will get the bloat. If you didn't want it, should not have purchased at&t version.
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Carsus55 said:
It's possible the device you have was sideloaded with an early bloat free build of whatever version you are on. If you update you will get the bloat. If you didn't want it, should not have purchased at&t version.
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Its not early build...look at attachment.
it 6.0.1 with agaust 2016 security patch

samsung lo said:
Its not early build...look at attachment.
it 6.0.1 with agaust 2016 security patch
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Early build of one of the updates. Some of the updates att posted to the servers weren't pushed out and I remember some were missing all the ATT crap. People were pulling them down manually by figuring out the direct download link.
Thanks.
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Early build of one of the updates. Some of the updates att posted to the servers weren't pushed out and I remember some were missing all the ATT crap. People were pulling them down manually by figuring out the direct download link.
Thanks.
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So can i update throught adb sideload or not?
the bloatware will return or not?

samsung lo said:
So can i update throught adb sideload or not?
the bloatware will return or not?
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Yes and yes. Please review some of the previous threads.
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Carsus55 said:
Yes and yes. Please review some of the previous threads.
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Now i found a problem here in alarm
icant use it ?
in addition to screen overlay problem in some apps?

samsung lo said:
Now i found a problem here in alarm
icant use it ?
in addition to screen overlay problem in some apps?
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There's definitely something not right about that phone.. I'm not sure what it is though.. If that was my phone I would just take the risk and reinstall the 'same' firmware that's already on it to see if that makes any difference.. Or just get an alarm app from the play store.

MrMike2182 said:
There's definitely something not right about that phone.. I'm not sure what it is though.. If that was my phone I would just take the risk and reinstall the 'same' firmware that's already on it to see if that makes any difference.. Or just get an alarm app from the play store.
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Today i installed the same build and the bloatware returned
but the confusing think how it was without it on the same build

samsung lo said:
Today i installed the same build and the bloatware returned
but the confusing think how it was without it on the same build
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I'm pretty sure this is what was done to remove the bloatware from the phone before you got it because doing it with this windows application leaves virtually no trace of having been done..
debloater tool
All the bloatware was really still there it was just disabled causing it to not be shown on your device.. This is the same thing Package Disabler pro does the difference is, if you remove Package Disabler then all the apps will return but with the debloater tool it doesn't install anything to your device hence why you wouldn't know how it happened.

MrMike2182 said:
I'm pretty sure this is what was done to remove the bloatware from the phone before you got it because doing it with this windows application leaves virtually no trace of having been done..
debloater tool
All the bloatware was really still there it was just disabled causing it to not be shown on your device.. This is the same thing Package Disabler pro does the difference is, if you remove Package Disabler then all the apps will return but with the debloater tool it doesn't install anything to your device hence why you wouldn't know how it happened.
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I dont think so
Because in App manager no att app seen there
In addition to Att bootanimation it wasnt there,and theres some deference mobile data toggle is not present now and i cant find it in setting now.

samsung lo said:
I dont think so
Because in App manager no att app seen there
In addition to Att bootanimation it wasnt there,and theres some deference mobile data toggle is not present now and i cant find it in setting now.
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When they're disabled with that tool they do not show up in app manager either. But like I said, there's obviously something not right with your device.