So a question I've been curious about, Why'd you root? Did you root to use apps that require root or did you do it to install awesome custom ROMs? Did you to it for any other reason?
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Zbor said:
So a question I've been curious about, Why'd you root? Did you root to use apps that require root or did you do it to install awesome custom ROMs? Did you to it for any other reason?
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The first reason is the addiction to custom roms..
I cannot stand stock ROMs and I wanted the latest version of android.
Zbor said:
So a question I've been curious about, Why'd you root? Did you root to use apps that require root or did you do it to install awesome custom ROMs? Did you to it for any other reason?
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Because why not? It's a Linux based software, we should do whatever we can to it to make it better! Root, install custom ROMs, build ROMs, modify them, kernels, everything! For a better "UX" - User Experience
a few reasons:
1. Custom Roms! Its fun....
2. I dont mind stock roms... but I hate the stock firmware that the service providers provide on the phone (bloatware and locked down functionality, etc...)
3. and as you mentioned, many good apps require root. Such as titanium back up which I love using.
I just had to go back to stock as I was soft bricked, and after less than 24 hours I can't stand the bloatware, I have to enter my APN info (CM includes a bunch from the get-go), and tethering doesn't authorize. So I'm on XDA looking for the root procedure and I'll be looking for the (hopefully) perfect ROM soon.
The phone is old enough, maybe you won't get lollipop and every other major update.With root you can get whatever you want.
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please... why not version locked and unlocked bootloaders for all roms.....
Locked bootloaders are restricted to stock roms, period. Custom roms require a custom kernel, which can only be installed with an unlocked bootloader.
DrReD said:
please... why not version locked and unlocked bootloaders for all roms.....
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Now we have CWM for locked bootloaders, you can use any custom rom based on stock, so thats every rom apart from CM7 and MIUI.
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Locked bootloaders are restricted to stock roms, period. Custom roms require a custom kernel, which can only be installed with an unlocked bootloaders.
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AndroHero said:
Now we have CWM for locked bootloaders, you can use any custom rom based on stock, so thats every rom apart from CM7 and that jap one MIUI.
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If you have a locked Bootloader, you can not use fastboot. So how can we flash a new ROM without fastboot? And we would only be able to flash a stock variant ROM, (basically bloatware removed), or a UK ROM or something, but im not sure what their ROM has to offer thats so different than ours, that I would not want to be able to fully use my Xpearia Play app to purchase new games. Everything a variant Stock ROM would do, i can do to my Stock ROM i already have.... remove bloat, change the look and appearance, even change the carrier name in the notification bar. Im not an expert though, thats just based on my limited knowledge of our phones.
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If you have a locked Bootloader, you can not use fastboot. So how can we flash a new ROM without fastboot? And we would only be able to flash a stock variant ROM, (basically bloatware removed), or a UK ROM or something, but im not sure what their ROM has to offer thats so different than ours, that I would not want to be able to fully use my Xpearia Play app to purchase new games. Everything a variant Stock ROM would do, i can do to my Stock ROM i already have.... remove bloat, change the look and appearance, even change the carrier name in the notification bar. Im not an expert though, thats just based on my limited knowledge of our phones.
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Stock variant roms can have a lot more done then just debloating. Look at my ics theme if I built a rom based on the look and feel of it every stock app would change in appearance. Not to mention most roms for any device are based on stock.
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odst0016 said:
Stock variant roms can have a lot more done then just debloating. Look at my ics theme if I built a rom based on the look and feel of it every stock app would change in appearance. Not to mention most roms for any device are based on stock.
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I actually did check out your theme, nice by the way. to use your theme do i need to flash a different stock rom, or can i use the stock rom that came with my phone?
Ahhh.... ok i see what your saying.... to change certain files in order to achieve a "themed" appearance on such a large scale would actually require pulling a ROM, decompiling it, making the changes, re-compile everything, then repushing, or flashing it as a whole new ROM. (hence the term stock variant as opposed to custom rom)
XperianceIT said:
I actually did check out your theme, nice by the way. to use your theme do i need to flash a different stock rom, or can i use the stock rom that came with my phone?
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Just flash on stock 2.3.3
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I actually did check out your theme, nice by the way. to use your theme do i need to flash a different stock rom, or can i use the stock rom that came with my phone?
Ahhh.... ok i see what your saying.... to change certain files in order to achieve a "themed" appearance on such a large scale would actually require pulling a ROM, decompiling it, making the changes, re-compile everything, then repushing, or flashing it as a whole new ROM. (hence the term stock variant as opposed to custom rom)
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Yea its based on stock but is visually and most the time functionally different.
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So, actually, there are NO custom ROMs for the R800x, just customized versions of stock. And of those, there are maybe 2 CDMA compatible offerings. The GB "ROM" and using the ICS theme. Not the UK version because the hardware keys don't work. Other than that, what else is there?
I've seen this asked multiple times. I have yet to see anything but a vague answer. We need actual names, links, etc.
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netizenmt said:
So, actually, there are NO custom ROMs for the R800x, just customized versions of stock. And of those, there are maybe 2 CDMA compatible offerings. The GB "ROM" and using the ICS theme. Not the UK version because the hardware keys don't work. Other than that, what else is there?
I've seen this asked multiple times. I have yet to see anything but a vague answer. We need actual names, links, etc.
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What do you expect a custom rom to be. A port of an htc rom, cm7(which is basically the same as our stock rom just loads of extra features), miui. a custom rom is nothing more then a customized version of android designed for a device and we have those. I think there are 3 developers for the cdma play so the amount of roms we have reflect that.
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How about this: The names of the ROMs that will work on the locked bootloader are: ______________________. Fill in the blank.
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How about this: The names of the ROMs that will work on the locked bootloader are: ______________________. Fill in the blank.
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You already know the answer
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Thanks for making my point.
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Thanks for making my point.
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Your point being your not happy with what you got.or are you saying that those aren't custom roms.
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How about this: The names of the ROMs that will work on the locked bootloader are: ______________________. Fill in the blank.
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Wow, you guys have an odd sense of entitlement. This is a developers forum. Ultimately, it is here for the developers. If you want to know if a ROM works on the R800x look in the thread for that ROM. If you want more ROMs available either make them yourself or figure out a way to unlock our bootloader.
Ultimately, there is not nearly as much to be gained with custom ROMS as there is for other models, since we're already on a fairly stripped back Vanilla version. If you want to theme it, use a launcher.
I'm running ADW with an ICS theme... before that I was rocking Launcher7... Just enjoy your phone for what it is.
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Wow, you guys have an odd sense of entitlement. This is a developers forum. Ultimately, it is here for the developers. If you want to know if a ROM works on the R800x look in the thread for that ROM. If you want more ROMs available either make them yourself or figure out a way to unlock our bootloader.
Ultimately, there is not nearly as much to be gained with custom ROMS as there is for other models, since we're already on a fairly stripped back Vanilla version. If you want to theme it, use a launcher.
I'm running ADW with an ICS theme... before that I was rocking Launcher7... Just enjoy your phone for what it is.
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I agree. Everyone, please stop complaining. If you want to complain, go to a non-developer forum. Or even Reddit for gods sake.
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How about this: The names of the ROMs that will work on the locked bootloader are: ______________________. Fill in the blank.
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yeah a list will be good
CM7+ is actually a possibility on Locked Bootloaders.
I remember when I was on the Xperia X8 + X10 Mini Pro we never had a bootloader unlock until about 3-4 months back or something like that and we managed to get an almost perfect CM7 ROM thanks to FXP and we also managed to get a Honeycomb port!
So it is a posibility, maybe FXP will start having there ROMs for locked bootloaders.
They declared that since there was an official way to unlock the bootloader, they wouldn't try anything such as bootloader bypass.
It isn't a complaint, it's a request for a list. People keep saying there are several ROMs that will work on a locked bootloader, but no one ever gives a list or details. I read the threads, but the information simply isn't there. Or isn't clear to someone who doesn't have an unlocked bootloader.
And I have just as much right to make a request for information as anyone else. That's hardly an attitude of entitlement. But there is clearly an intentional bias against anyone who doesn't have an unlocked bootloader, particularly R800x owners and all we ever get are vague, unhelpful, often insulting answers from elitists who clearly enjoy lording it over the "n00bs" instead of helping us learn.
If you have nothing useful to contribute to the conversation, don't post to it, troll.
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i want to root the s3.. but i dont want to install a custom rom on it.. how can i root it without installed a custom rom?
Please check this. I think this ll help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27049357
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obla1 said:
i want to root the s3.. but i dont want to install a custom rom on it.. how can i root it without installed a custom rom?
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get the galaxy s3 tool kit you can use that to root your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746682
You can root a phone with the ROM that's already on the phone. Installing a custom ROM is optional.
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You can root a phone with the ROM that's already on the phone. Installing a custom ROM is optional.
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i dont understand.. you mean i can root the s3 with the stock rom thats already on it? please explain.
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i dont understand.. you mean i can root the s3 with the stock rom thats already on it? please explain.
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Exactly.
When you root your phone, you simply root the phone, which means that you've got super permissions and a recovery on it.
But, just for some advice, if you want the stock ROM I suggest you install a custom version. The custom stock ROM will be optimized to give you better performance.
Give me a holler if you still don't understand anything. Better yet, why do you want to root your phone? This might get to the bottom of your mission.
By the way, for the future, this would belong in the Questions section. If you were taking a poll or asking a question for conversation, then it would be fine here. But, something technical like this is for Questions section.
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I run stock rooted 4.12 and I am ready to upgrade my rom but I can not find a stock rooted 4.3 and I do not want plain stock because I hear knox is a nightmare to get out and I run an adblocker on my phone( the main reason I root ) what in your opinions is the most stable user friendly 4.3 rom out there right now or even 4.4 if there are some you would recommended
thank you for your input
There is no best ROM its all a matter of preference. You can always take the ota and root it. I don't know what nightmares you read about but I have never had one. I personally run digiblur ROM and also beanstalk 4.4. But there a lot of great Roms here I just chose the 2 I like the most.
All the info is here to erase Knox files. You could root 4.3 with cf auto root and kingo all easy and fast.
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Thank you very much for the information I will try beanstalk , but it is nice to know that i can still root 4.3 ,I was behind the times when 4.3 came out I read about knox and the difficulty rooting and did not keep up with the progress
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There is no best ROM its all a matter of preference. You can always take the ota and root it. I don't know what nightmares you read about but I have never had one. I personally run digiblur ROM and also beanstalk 4.4. But there a lot of great Roms here I just chose the 2 I like the most.
All the info is here to erase Knox files. You could root 4.3 with cf auto root and kingo all easy and fast.
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He's right, there isn't just one best ROM. If you try BeanStalk and you like it you might also try SlimKat 4.4, it works really well on my Note 2
do I need any special prep to upgrade to beanstalk since I am coming from 4.12. like a kernel or just apply the rom as instructed
For the above reasons BEST ROM threads are closed on XDA and not allowed as all are the BEST for the people using them
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I've been using Moto and samsung phones for a long time. I've become very familiar with sammys odin and loaded and modified many roms.
I just got the LG G3 851 (TMO) phone and have it running on cricket wireless. Did some research and have some questions if you can help out.
1)Can i flash 855 (international) roms?
2)No official Cyanogen roms but a couple CM based ones seem to be out there. Anyone use it as a daily driver? Known major issues? camera, wifi, sd card?
thanks
orateam said:
I've been using Moto and samsung phones for a long time. I've become very familiar with sammys odin and loaded and modified many roms.
I just got the LG G3 851 (TMO) phone and have it running on cricket wireless. Did some research and have some questions if you can help out.
1)Can i flash 855 (international) roms?
2)No official Cyanogen roms but a couple CM based ones seem to be out there. Anyone use it as a daily driver? Known major issues? camera, wifi, sd card?
thanks
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I just came to my first LG about a week ago after HTC EVO series, then S3, Note 3 and 4. Right now, I would recommend stock rooted, with SkyDragon kernel untouched. I froze about 67 elements, use xposed with gravity box, greenify, and a few other modules. On T-mo 10r, and tried several AOSP/CM/PA based, as well as a modified stock. It seems to me that until the official 5.02 official image is released, we are stuck with new problems with lolli, and old problems with old stock based. Best to setup what ya got the way you like it for now. Don't know if this is applicable to you on cricket, just sharing my experience/opinion. Good thing is that even full stock LG is around 700Mb smaller than Touchwiz. Just had to deal with locked bootloader for the first time in a while. Good luck!:good:
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I just came to my first LG about a week ago after HTC EVO series, then S3, Note 3 and 4. Right now, I would recommend stock rooted, with SkyDragon kernel untouched. I froze about 67 elements, use xposed with gravity box, greenify, and a few other modules. On T-mo 10r, and tried several AOSP/CM/PA based, as well as a modified stock. It seems to me that until the official 5.02 official image is released, we are stuck with new problems with lolli, and old problems with old stock based. Best to setup what ya got the way you like it for now. Don't know if this is applicable to you on cricket, just sharing my experience/opinion. Good thing is that even full stock LG is around 700Mb smaller than Touchwiz. Just had to deal with locked bootloader for the first time in a while. Good luck!:good:
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thanks, good advice. My phone came with illusion and its quirky but fast on Lolli. I'm glad recovery was already on it so i didn't have to go through your unlocking.
orateam said:
I've been using Moto and samsung phones for a long time. I've become very familiar with sammys odin and loaded and modified many roms.
I just got the LG G3 851 (TMO) phone and have it running on cricket wireless. Did some research and have some questions if you can help out.
1)Can i flash 855 (international) roms?
2)No official Cyanogen roms but a couple CM based ones seem to be out there. Anyone use it as a daily driver? Known major issues? camera, wifi, sd card?
thanks
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Firmware is not compatible. You will brick your phone.
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All the G3 variants have slightly different internals, so no, flashing anything that specifically doesn't say it will work for 851 is very bad and will give you a pretty new paper weight. The cyanogen site should have 851 on it to download.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=d851
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I rooted my d851 and still got stock original software, can i install trickstermod and busybox to mess with the kernel so i can get better battery life? @dakpluto
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smallyetzon said:
I rooted my d851 and still got stock original software, can i install trickstermod and busybox to mess with the kernel so i can get better battery life? @dakpluto
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Never used Trickstermod, so I can't tell you how it works on the G3. I know it's not on their official support list, but that doesn't mean it won't work either. No reason you can't install busybox if you are rooted.
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Never used Trickstermod, so I can't tell you how it works on the G3. I know it's not on their official support list, but that doesn't mean it won't work either. No reason you can't install busybox if you are rooted.
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Ok to make sure nothing bad happends can i do a backup of this stock 10r, install a custom rom and later come back to original stock??
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Ok to make sure nothing bad happends can i do a backup of this stock 10r, install a custom rom and later come back to original stock??
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Yes. Make sure you do a full backup (make sure your backup has EFS) Then you can also just flash back to your backup.
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I rooted my d851 and still got stock original software, can i install trickstermod and busybox to mess with the kernel so i can get better battery life? @dakpluto
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Flash SkyDragon kernel, and use paid trickster, set according to OP kernel forum. I have 67 elements frozen via Titanium, use greenify, and SkyDragon on stock rooted. Get 30-64 hours depending. YMMV :good:
Mainly wanting to keep it clean, i prefer a stock debloat that's smooth and good on battery, a few bells and whistles are always nice but the main focus being functionality. Any suggestions? Comments on specific Roms?
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Stock, rooted, then debloat it yourself with Debloater, perhaps?
Other than that, Jasmine more than likely which is based on stock but has some other goodies and can still benefit from debloating.
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Mainly wanting to keep it clean, i prefer a stock debloat that's smooth and good on battery, a few bells and whistles are always nice but the main focus being functionality. Any suggestions? Comments on specific Roms?
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These two are your best bet for close to stock. Both are great on battery and on the newest firmware so it's just a preference on what mods you want. I have stock, rooted ROMs in post 2 and 3.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/development/cpl1-firmware-rom-stock-plus-t3532702
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...k-s-rom-v1-nj5-deodexed-debloated-kk-t3040377
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These two are your best bet for close to stock. Both are great on battery and on the newest firmware so it's just a preference on what mods you want. I have stock, rooted ROMs in post 2 and 3.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/development/cpl1-firmware-rom-stock-plus-t3532702
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...k-s-rom-v1-nj5-deodexed-debloated-kk-t3040377
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okay, I am on 5.1.1 lollipop with unlocked bootloader and rooted rom where do I go from here to install your rom?
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okay, I am on 5.1.1 lollipop with unlocked bootloader and rooted rom where do I go from here to install your rom?
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Thanks for starting this thread, I've been teetering and thinking I was ready for a change also.
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viseversa101 said:
okay, I am on 5.1.1 lollipop with unlocked bootloader and rooted rom where do I go from here to install your rom?
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Droidatar said:
Thanks for starting this thread, I've been teetering and thinking I was ready for a change also.
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Unfortunately you will have to root and unlock again with this guide. Then you will be able to run the new ROMs. I found this guide very helpful too.