I hope I don't offend anyone and I'm not trying to start any war between AOKP and CM9 but I just wanted to know what's the big hype about CM9? I see some features in AOKP that I haven't seen in CM9. Just seems like everyone is going crazy over CM and I've flashed their rom before and enjoyed their hard work and I am thankful of every team out there that makes Roms. Don't want to seem like that bad guy.
A lot of people have been running CM for a long time (like since CM5 launched). Its that quintessential custom ROM that lots of people have an attachment to I think.
martonikaj said:
A lot of people have been running CM for a long time (like since CM5 launched). Its that quintessential custom ROM that lots of people have an attachment to I think.
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Gotcha, thats understandable. I just expected them to blow other roms out the water but AOKP has been extremely stable and full of customization.
From my expierence on the boards (going back to when the HTC EVO was the biggest baddest on the block) CM is a nameplate that carrys a long history of being a very lightweight Rom . It has always had a good sized list of developers on its team through during its time . Its also known as one of the roms that usually has multipul devices under its sleeves . Not to go overboard but finding better fitting descriptions . They are more or less legend when it comes to roms . There has always been a CM(x) out there . Im sure there will always been a CM(x) for future devices as well . I think basically the convience is as people switch devices as time goes on there is always a constant these people can look to and that is CM . Atleast thats my take on it
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From my expierence on the boards (going back to when the HTC EVO was the biggest baddest on the block) CM is a nameplate that carrys a long history of being a very lightweight Rom . It has always had a good sized list of developers on its team through during its time . Its also known as one of the roms that usually has multipul devices under its sleeves . Not to go overboard but finding better fitting descriptions . They are more or less legend when it comes to roms . There has always been a CM(x) out there . Im sure there will always been a CM(x) for future devices as well . I think basically the convience is as people switch devices as time goes on there is always a constant these people can look to and that is CM . Atleast thats my take on it
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cool cool. thanks for your input. I ran their rom when I had my G2x and i liked it
Soldi3rxx said:
Gotcha, thats understandable. I just expected them to blow other roms out the water but AOKP has been extremely stable and full of customization.
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You also have to understand that cyanogenmod just released their first nightly for the Galaxy Nexus, while AOKP has been out for some time (though I don't know exactly how long since I'm fairly new to the galaxy nexus myself). CM also has supported tons of devices (over 60 if wikipedia is right ).
Stability, lightweight, and an approach that borders straight professionalism. That's why I like CM and have always had it on mine--and my friends'--phones.
Some roms are really, really fun and have a variety of positives (and negatives). Other roms choose to improve upon the basic Android OS and offer the user that functions simply but contains a host of neat features. CM is the latter in my book.
CM9 currently lacks some settings other roms have. That said CM9 will add them and much more, work on a plethora of devices and remain working with updates long after many of these other Roms are long dead.
CM9 may lack some features compared to other roms but no roms lack in features borrowed from CM9.
Talk to me when AOKP supports 50+ devices....
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I think with ICS everything changed and cyan got set back significantly due to drastic OS changes. So yes aokp is far ahead right now.
adrynalyne said:
CM9 may lack some features compared to other roms but no roms lack in features borrowed from CM9.
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I'm not sure if this saying still works, but "quoted for truth."
A rom without ANY CM influence/features is a rarity, and dare I say it pretty impossible to find.
CM9 may lack features, but so far it's the most stable "nightly" I've come across.
matt2053 said:
Talk to me when AOKP supports 50+ devices....
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It's actually slowly going in that direction with the multiple device support of AOKP expanding to many devices including the T-Mobile Vibrant (recently!)
dmmarck said:
I'm not sure if this saying still works, but "quoted for truth."
A rom without ANY CM influence/features is a rarity, and dare I say it pretty impossible to find
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You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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ljordan2 said:
You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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Yup have heard the same.
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ljordan2 said:
You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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Some? A lot of MIUI is based off of CM source.
CM9 has been slower out of the gates because of reasons already mentioned; namely a huge stable of devices to support, the build bot was borked for quite a while as well. Settings will come in time, again # of devices. They also lay the ground work for many other ROMs, not to say that there aren't people doing a lot of coding of their own.
For many devices they're the only AOSP like ROM available. It's stable and quick, but if you absolutely need a lot of the custom settings right now, then you'll have to look elsewhere for the moment.
cm rom are good and much much more stable, from my own experience.
mudferret said:
For many devices they're the only AOSP like ROM available. It's stable and quick, but if you absolutely need a lot of the custom settings right now, then you'll have to look elsewhere for the moment.
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So what is the point of flashing CM9 on the GNex? Stock is already stable and quick and CM9 doesn't seem to have any extra features..
gabster21 said:
So what is the point of flashing CM9 on the GNex? Stock is already stable and quick and CM9 doesn't seem to have any extra features..
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There is no stock 4.0.3 for the GN
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I'm just wondering why there are numerous TW ICS roms being created but basically only one AOSP rom at this time. Why do you guys think that is? Is it just a lot easier to create a TW rom compared to a AOSP rom? My take on it as a user is that there is a bit of trade off when comparing the two.
TW is how the phone is meant to run. All the hardware is working to it's optimal capacity but the UI and options leave much to be desired.
AOSP is a lot sleeker and barebones and has a ton of great features. However, sometimes you can't use your phone to its full capacity (like camera or lack of wimax for ex.)
IDK if this thread has a point...mb i just had too much jack and coke
SantinoInc said:
I'm just wondering why there are numerous TW ICS roms being created but basically only one AOSP rom at this time. Why do you guys think that is? Is it just a lot easier to create a TW rom compared to a AOSP rom? My take on it as a user is that there is a bit of trade off when comparing the two.
TW is how the phone is meant to run. All the hardware is working to it's optimal capacity but the UI and options leave much to be desired.
AOSP is a lot sleeker and barebones and has a ton of great features. However, sometimes you can't use your phone to its full capacity (like camera or lack of wimax for ex.)
IDK if this thread has a point...mb i just had too much jack and coke
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AOSP is developed from source. AOSP roms (typically) are compiled straight from released android source code. This means that the developer must create a device tree for each specific device which they are building for so proprietary things work. Building a touchwiz rom means taking what is already built and fully functional and decompiling/recompiling it with tweaks.
So.. the process required in building from scratch is something that takes more time and testing then that of tweaking a already functional ROM.
Hope that answers your question.
Thank you for the answer good sir. I assumed as much...lots of props to all DEVS but especially the AOSP DEVS. Seems like they really have their work cut out for them!
AOSP dev is easier than TW once you have all the the drivers
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I'm a power android user and I've had androids for years now. Ever since i discovered custom roms, I've not once bought an android that i didn't flash a custom rom onto the first day. Especially with Samsungs.
But somehow, on this wonderful tablet with amazing potential, just one (very early alpha) rom is available. For a tablet that's been out for 3 months, this worries me.
Do you guys think some devs will get into porting popular roms for this device or is this just an xda-dead tablet?
(Holy **** touchwiz is horrible)
Then you need to learn about how restrictive the Exynos SOC means you're pretty much stuck with only stock based custom roms.
kenkiller said:
Then you need to learn about how restrictive the Exynos SOC means you're pretty much stuck with only stock based custom roms.
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That's pretty depressing.
Not to say that Aosp or CM roms won't exist (they already do), but they will forevermore be more buggy compared to their SD counterparts.
Guys, i am thinking on getting this phone to replace my nexus 5 but i can see there are not lots of options for custom kernels.
Do we have the source code for the kernel and drivers? I ask this because i had a galaxy s3 once and we never got access to the samsung source codes, and because of that we never got a good hardware acceleration and stuff.
I guess my real question is, do we have good kernels and custom roms for this phone? or are we limited because of lacking source code?
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You have two kernels at the moment.
Rins for Kitkat and ChuppaChops for Lollipop.
For AOSP roms there is no kernel.
And yes, there is good roms available.
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You have two kernels at the moment.
Rins for Kitkat and ChuppaChops for Lollipop.
For AOSP roms there is no kernel.
And yes, there is good roms available.
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Do you know about kernel sources? Only two kernels is way less than we have for the Nexus 5 for instance.
Looks like there may be some kind of limitation there...
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Do you know about kernel sources? Only two kernels is way less than we have for the Nexus 5 for instance.
Looks like there may be some kind of limitation there...
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You can find sources here: https://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensourceList?types=ALL&search=d855
You can not compare Nexus 5 with G3. Nexus is one year here while G3 was completely locked until a month ago.
Ah! That is why then!
Do you think its safe to say that now the devs have no limitations for the G3?
I would say yes.
Right now is a pause because we have Lollipop available and devs are moving to Lollipop so it will take some time to get newest ROMs for it.
But there is already great ROMs.
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Guys, i am thinking on getting this phone to replace my nexus 5 but i can see there are not lots of options for custom kernels.
Do we have the source code for the kernel and drivers? I ask this because i had a galaxy s3 once and we never got access to the samsung source codes, and because of that we never got a good hardware acceleration and stuff.
I guess my real question is, do we have good kernels and custom roms for this phone? or are we limited because of lacking source code?
Thanks
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You will start to see more custom kernels as the devs move more towards Lollipop. We are in an odd transitional phase of shifting focus from KitKat to Lollipop, so a lot of work is being done to get this new OS running well. We should see more custom kernels as development continues, but you may not notice as many KitKat kernels as you wanted to see. Hopefully you stick with the G3 and we're glad to have you here in our community!
What is the difference between the ROMs from a conceptual standpoint? From my understanding since OnePlus releases all the source code, shouldn't they all be very similar? This isn't meant to bash or compare ROMs, I'd just like to get a better big picture understanding.
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gleggie said:
What is the difference between the ROMs from a conceptual standpoint? From my understanding since OnePlus releases all the source code, shouldn't they all be very similar? This isn't meant to bash or compare ROMs, I'd just like to get a better big picture understanding.
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Gotta try'em
As far as I understand it, OP doesn't release all of the source code. They have release some of it, like the code for dash charging, which helps that element be added to roms. Things like the camera source code and other things are not released afaik, so the camera quality is lost on non-oxygen roms.
It's all preferences, me, Slim Roms are the only choice! Hands down the best!
But honestly OnePlus is doing a damn good job with Oxygen and I personally like it better than CM.
I would have never said that a year ago and thought they would have folded by now but man.. they are doing awesome.