I hope I don't offend anyone and I'm not trying to start any war between AOKP and CM9 but I just wanted to know what's the big hype about CM9? I see some features in AOKP that I haven't seen in CM9. Just seems like everyone is going crazy over CM and I've flashed their rom before and enjoyed their hard work and I am thankful of every team out there that makes Roms. Don't want to seem like that bad guy.
A lot of people have been running CM for a long time (like since CM5 launched). Its that quintessential custom ROM that lots of people have an attachment to I think.
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A lot of people have been running CM for a long time (like since CM5 launched). Its that quintessential custom ROM that lots of people have an attachment to I think.
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Gotcha, thats understandable. I just expected them to blow other roms out the water but AOKP has been extremely stable and full of customization.
From my expierence on the boards (going back to when the HTC EVO was the biggest baddest on the block) CM is a nameplate that carrys a long history of being a very lightweight Rom . It has always had a good sized list of developers on its team through during its time . Its also known as one of the roms that usually has multipul devices under its sleeves . Not to go overboard but finding better fitting descriptions . They are more or less legend when it comes to roms . There has always been a CM(x) out there . Im sure there will always been a CM(x) for future devices as well . I think basically the convience is as people switch devices as time goes on there is always a constant these people can look to and that is CM . Atleast thats my take on it
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From my expierence on the boards (going back to when the HTC EVO was the biggest baddest on the block) CM is a nameplate that carrys a long history of being a very lightweight Rom . It has always had a good sized list of developers on its team through during its time . Its also known as one of the roms that usually has multipul devices under its sleeves . Not to go overboard but finding better fitting descriptions . They are more or less legend when it comes to roms . There has always been a CM(x) out there . Im sure there will always been a CM(x) for future devices as well . I think basically the convience is as people switch devices as time goes on there is always a constant these people can look to and that is CM . Atleast thats my take on it
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cool cool. thanks for your input. I ran their rom when I had my G2x and i liked it
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Gotcha, thats understandable. I just expected them to blow other roms out the water but AOKP has been extremely stable and full of customization.
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You also have to understand that cyanogenmod just released their first nightly for the Galaxy Nexus, while AOKP has been out for some time (though I don't know exactly how long since I'm fairly new to the galaxy nexus myself). CM also has supported tons of devices (over 60 if wikipedia is right ).
Stability, lightweight, and an approach that borders straight professionalism. That's why I like CM and have always had it on mine--and my friends'--phones.
Some roms are really, really fun and have a variety of positives (and negatives). Other roms choose to improve upon the basic Android OS and offer the user that functions simply but contains a host of neat features. CM is the latter in my book.
CM9 currently lacks some settings other roms have. That said CM9 will add them and much more, work on a plethora of devices and remain working with updates long after many of these other Roms are long dead.
CM9 may lack some features compared to other roms but no roms lack in features borrowed from CM9.
Talk to me when AOKP supports 50+ devices....
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I think with ICS everything changed and cyan got set back significantly due to drastic OS changes. So yes aokp is far ahead right now.
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CM9 may lack some features compared to other roms but no roms lack in features borrowed from CM9.
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I'm not sure if this saying still works, but "quoted for truth."
A rom without ANY CM influence/features is a rarity, and dare I say it pretty impossible to find.
CM9 may lack features, but so far it's the most stable "nightly" I've come across.
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Talk to me when AOKP supports 50+ devices....
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It's actually slowly going in that direction with the multiple device support of AOKP expanding to many devices including the T-Mobile Vibrant (recently!)
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I'm not sure if this saying still works, but "quoted for truth."
A rom without ANY CM influence/features is a rarity, and dare I say it pretty impossible to find
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You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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Yup have heard the same.
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You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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Some? A lot of MIUI is based off of CM source.
CM9 has been slower out of the gates because of reasons already mentioned; namely a huge stable of devices to support, the build bot was borked for quite a while as well. Settings will come in time, again # of devices. They also lay the ground work for many other ROMs, not to say that there aren't people doing a lot of coding of their own.
For many devices they're the only AOSP like ROM available. It's stable and quick, but if you absolutely need a lot of the custom settings right now, then you'll have to look elsewhere for the moment.
cm rom are good and much much more stable, from my own experience.
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For many devices they're the only AOSP like ROM available. It's stable and quick, but if you absolutely need a lot of the custom settings right now, then you'll have to look elsewhere for the moment.
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So what is the point of flashing CM9 on the GNex? Stock is already stable and quick and CM9 doesn't seem to have any extra features..
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So what is the point of flashing CM9 on the GNex? Stock is already stable and quick and CM9 doesn't seem to have any extra features..
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There is no stock 4.0.3 for the GN
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I've been using CM9 Kang by winner for a while now. I love it. Was thinking of switching over to AOKP M4 just to see if its better.
I'm using Franco's Kernel and I heard M4 is better than Stock AOKP.
Let me know your thoughts!
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AOKP FTW..!!!
I use AOKP since i get my Gnex and i can see their development speed which are amazingly fast.. If your interest are more on tweaks and extra features, i think better go for AOKP for now while waiting CM9 to release their milestone. I never flash CM9, i cant give much comment on their ROM. For kernel wise, i prefer Glados over Franco because Glados are more stable and problem free most of the time. Franco always implement features from Glados, sound like Glados is the master
Axi0m Crossbreed fo sho. =]
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I've been using CM9 Kang by winner for a while now. I love it. Was thinking of switching over to AOKP M4 just to see if its better.
I'm using Franco's Kernel and I heard M4 is better than Stock AOKP.
Let me know your thoughts!
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I will chime in here because I was in the same boat. However, I was using AOKP M4 w/ franco's kernel first. I read several posts/threads that stated how CM9 was smoother and faster than AOKP because of less features built-in.
I just flashed CM9 today w/ franco's kernel and I can definitely tell a difference - CM9 is the winner here. It only makes sense from the big picture. The CM guys know their poop - they've been developing ROMs far longer than any of these other guys.
My first rom that i flashed was winners CM9 Kang. Was very smooth. My only gripe was there were no mods for it. I switched over to AOKP and never looked back. Equally just as fast with tons of mods.
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You can always use Boot Manager as well to compare different roms. Works nicely for me, sometimes has issues with certain roms.
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To answer your question, aokp is rich with features for customization of almost every aspect of the from. As of now cyanogenmod is playing catch up. But I know it'll be amazing in a short time. Most people use aokp because it requires less work to add/subtract what you do or don't want.
CM has a great reputation, but right now its nearly stock. I am waiting to see what they come out with then I'll probably run it (as I have on my previous nexus'). It all comes down to what you're looking for. If you want features galore, aokp is the right choice. Just run it until CM9 gets rolling
Some of you really need to get off your high horse. Sarcastic and rude comments are totally unnecessary. What if your teachers in kindergarten and beyond told you to stop asking stupid questions? This is a place for learning, sharing, and growing not for ridiculing.
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Here here, well said.
I find myself switching back and forward between yhese two roms there both really good so i aint fonna say witch i think is best.
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My opinion is that, I will keep use AOKP M4 and not consider CM9 until there comes the stable version of CM9. Just for stability.
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My opinion is that, I will keep use AOKP M4 and not consider CM9 until there comes the stable version of CM9. Just for stability.
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CM9 has been incredibly stable since the "experimental" builds. CM tends to have a different definition of "stable".
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This isn't rocket science. You try both and make an informed decision. Everyone values things differently. Others cannot make an informed decision for you.
Call it sarcastic or rude, if you want. I call it thinking for yourself, because nobody has unbiased or objective rom reviews. Its all fanboish nonsense.
Apple thrives off of those who don't want to make a decision themselves, by the way.
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Agreed, its not rocket science, but I just think people throughout these threads have been answering in unnecessarily rude ways. Just tell him the CM9 is minimal right now and AOKP has a lot of features. There's car references and all kinds of unneeded things going on in here
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I just deleted over half the posts in this thread.......
It's simple. If you don't want to help or have anything helpful to say, back out of the thread and move on. I will only say this once.
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CM9 has been incredibly stable since the "experimental" builds. CM tends to have a different definition of "stable".
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But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.
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But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.
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the cm9 nightlies (experimental) are very very stable and good for daily use but,
like said in here before, they lack quite some of the extra features
if you're looking for rom's with more options try AOKP, Gummynex, Codename Android or any other rom you can find on xda ... they are all good roms which give you plenty of options.
it's all just a matter of personal taste in the end i guess
good luck and enjoy!
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But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.
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I hear what you're saying; and I agree the nomenclature can strike fear into newbies.
Luckily with the GN there are a lot of good ROMs available; more quality options to choose from compared to other devices.
I'll find Apex rom very fast and very stable, with leankernel. He's only problem is that it's not update for a while, that could indicate an abandon from the dev. Instead, roman, from AOKP, is very dedicated and his rom growing fast and constantly
Edit: Meh, I'll just try them all!
Hey guys ill be coming to the Galaxy S2 device from the lacking mytouch 4g slide im buying one for 300 usd with a seidio case and clip is that a good deal and what are some of you guys dislikes and likes about this phone am i getting a good deal?
Yeah if its in good condition then 300-350 is normal for a used one. The case is a bonus.
I would check the screen and make sure it is not terrible....some are worse than others. Some have vertical lines and blobs. A google search will reveal a lot of information on the subject.
you'll want to check if it's Korea manufactured. Those seem to be of lesser quality than the China ones.
I'm just sayin!
how do i know where it was made is it behind the battery cover?
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how do i know where it was made is it behind the battery cover?
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here is a pic of my old white galaxy s2 under the battery. so u can see where it says its made.
So other then the screen issues some people have is their anything else thats bad about the phone ? and when i get it what is the over all best rom ? i see so many i dont know what to choose. I just want a rom that is updated frequently and most features working.
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So other then the screen issues some people have is their anything else thats bad about the phone ? and when i get it what is the over all best rom ? i see so many i dont know what to choose. I just want a rom that is updated frequently and most features working.
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Hit the thank you button. The phone has no notification led which is annoying to me. Also we dont have any 100% working AOSP build which sucks. However, it is a great phone. As far as roms go... I personally think that Darkside's Digital Warfare is the best and everything works. Otherwise you can just run a debloated stock.
Is this phone worth comming from a Mytouch 4g slide? for 300 or should i just wait. Do all the galaxy s2 phones have the same development and progress compaired to sprints and att? or is this one behind
phone is definitly worth it and right now anything that M & S is putting out is outstanding you have a few choices as far as roms he has Paradox 2 which is seriously stunning and then you have Tuesday Blue Ray right now which is the fastest and best looking rom ive ever seen go ahead and get the phone you will not be disapointed
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Hit the thank you button. The phone has no notification led which is annoying to me. Also we dont have any 100% working AOSP build which sucks. However, it is a great phone. As far as roms go... I personally think that Darkside's Digital Warfare is the best and everything works. Otherwise you can just run a debloated stock.
I'm confused 1st you say there is no 100% working AOSP build, then you state that Darkside's Digital Warfare rom is the best and everything works. I don't know what the difference is between a Android Open Source Project build and a Read only Memory when used in this context?
Can you please explain it to me?
I won't modify my phone unless I can have full functionality.
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jahrule Said
Hit the thank you button. The phone has no notification led which is annoying to me. Also we dont have any 100% working AOSP build which sucks. However, it is a great phone. As far as roms go... I personally think that Darkside's Digital Warfare is the best and everything works. Otherwise you can just run a debloated stock.
I'm confused 1st you say there is no 100% working AOSP build, then you state that Darkside's Digital Warfare rom is the best and everything works. I don't know what the difference is between a Android Open Source Project build and a Read only Memory when used in this context?
Can you please explain it to me?
I won't modify my phone unless I can have full functionality.
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I was wondering the same? i got a little confused with his reply about that ? lol
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jahrule Said
Hit the thank you button. The phone has no notification led which is annoying to me. Also we dont have any 100% working AOSP build which sucks. However, it is a great phone. As far as roms go... I personally think that Darkside's Digital Warfare is the best and everything works. Otherwise you can just run a debloated stock.
I'm confused 1st you say there is no 100% working AOSP build, then you state that Darkside's Digital Warfare rom is the best and everything works. I don't know what the difference is between a Android Open Source Project build and a Read only Memory when used in this context?
Can you please explain it to me?
I won't modify my phone unless I can have full functionality.
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AOSP refers to ROMs that are 100% stock with absolutely zero touchwiz. These are roms released straight from Google to the nexus phones, cyanogenmod, and miui. While we have booting versions of all 3, the only one that is kind of close to working is CM7 thanks to Eugene. We have an AOSP ics ROM from raver that definitely has potential but isn't there yet. Miui is the least developed of the 3.
If you're okay with touchwiz (you pretty much have to be at this stage in development), almost all the roms are completely functional but I personally like digital warfare the best for stability and battery life.
The phone is definitely worth switching to. I've been having lots of fun with mine.
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AOSP refers to ROMs that are 100% stock with absolutely zero touchwiz. These are roms released straight from Google to the nexus phones, cyanogenmod, and miui. While we have booting versions of all 3, the only one that is kind of close to working is CM7 thanks to Eugene. We have an AOSP ics ROM from raver that definitely has potential but isn't there yet. Miui is the least developed of the 3.
If you're okay with touchwiz (you pretty much have to be at this stage in development), almost all the roms are completely functional but I personally like digital warfare the best for stability and battery life.
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So according to jahrule none of these stock roms work 100%, that is what confused me. You would think that OEMs would not put out betas for the consumer to fiddle around with and complain about. I only want as stated previously 100% working roms. What does not work with the digital warfare rom?
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So according to jahrule none of these stock roms work 100%, that is what confused me. You would think that OEMs would not put out betas for the consumer to fiddle around with and complain about. I only want as stated previously 100% working roms. What does not work with the digital warfare rom?
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That is incorrect. Basically every gingerbread ROM has absolutely zero issues. Three only exception I would say is beastmod which I think has a few bugs. There are zero issues with digital warfare.
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So according to jahrule none of these stock roms work 100%, that is what confused me. You would think that OEMs would not put out betas for the consumer to fiddle around with and complain about. I only want as stated previously 100% working roms. What does not work with the digital warfare rom?
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Are you illiterate? AOSP does not mean stock. The stock roms for any galaxy phone have touchwiz. AOSP is just android. No bloat, no touchwiz, just android. Al of the touchwiz roms function 100%, except beastmod as stated before. The 3 AOSP roms are not functioning at 100%. CM7 is the closest AOSP rom to fully functional.
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Are you illiterate? AOSP does not mean stock. The stock roms for any galaxy phone have touchwiz. AOSP is just android. No bloat, no touchwiz, just android. Al of the touchwiz roms function 100%, except beastmod as stated before. The 3 AOSP roms are not functioning at 100%. CM7 is the closest AOSP rom to fully functional.
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Loquacious, simian! I was only going by the info I got from:
Originally Posted by yoft1 View Post
AOSP refers to ROMs that are 100% stock with absolutely zero touchwiz. These are roms released straight from Google to the nexus phones, cyanogenmod, and miui. While we have booting versions of all 3, the only one that is kind of close to working is CM7 thanks to Eugene. We have an AOSP ics ROM from raver that definitely has potential but isn't there yet. Miui is the least developed of the 3.
I can name call as well as the next guy, but I'm only here to learn. So far I see a lot of nastiness and belligerent behavior from so many here. Maybe I'm in the wrong place. I thought the people here, were here to help. I guess I'm wrong. A bunch of snobs, I need not.
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Loquacious, simian! I was only going by the info I got from:
Originally Posted by yoft1 View Post
AOSP refers to ROMs that are 100% stock with absolutely zero touchwiz. These are roms released straight from Google to the nexus phones, cyanogenmod, and miui. While we have booting versions of all 3, the only one that is kind of close to working is CM7 thanks to Eugene. We have an AOSP ics ROM from raver that definitely has potential but isn't there yet. Miui is the least developed of the 3.
I can name call as well as the next guy, but I'm only here to learn. So far I see a lot of nastiness and belligerent behavior from so many here. Maybe I'm in the wrong place. I thought the people here, were here to help. I guess I'm wrong. A bunch of snobs, I need not.
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I can see the confusion. Stock from Samsung has touchwiz and works completely. Stock from Google is AOSP and is not fully functional.
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Loquacious, simian! I was only going by the info I got from:
Originally Posted by yoft1 View Post
AOSP refers to ROMs that are 100% stock with absolutely zero touchwiz. These are roms released straight from Google to the nexus phones, cyanogenmod, and miui. While we have booting versions of all 3, the only one that is kind of close to working is CM7 thanks to Eugene. We have an AOSP ics ROM from raver that definitely has potential but isn't there yet. Miui is the least developed of the 3.
I can name call as well as the next guy, but I'm only here to learn. So far I see a lot of nastiness and belligerent behavior from so many here. Maybe I'm in the wrong place. I thought the people here, were here to help. I guess I'm wrong. A bunch of snobs, I need not.
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Which is exactly why I asked if you were illiterate. Because he stated the exact same thing I did. Just in a longer format. I do not see how you got confused with this statement. Honestly I don't see how anybody got confused with it.
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Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol
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Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol
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Why do we need more roms? The current ones provide everything we need.
Same complaints about the epic touch, six months later there's a ridiculous amount of ROMs to flash.
it's better to have a few very good roms than a lot of roms that are not so good.
I just counted 25 ROMs in the dev section. Should our phones be walking to the store for us?
What more do you need??
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Well take a look at the nexus s forum. there's a rom for everyone! One Can never have too much choice! And again it was just a question. No Need to get all defensive.
less roms equals the nest selection
I think the reason is that a couple of roms got such a headstart in users and features, the devs don't see a demand. Sometimes it seems like over half the GNex owners use aokp, myself included.
For me it's surprising to see so little in flashable mods. I'd love to try some roms, but they don't have a customizable lock screen or notification toggles. To me those are must haves, so I stick with aokp. Maybe when cyanogenmod finally goes stable, devs can use it as a base for great roms.
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I can see what you mean. I also came from the Nexus S, and I did notice that there are a lot more ROMS for it. But it seems like there is no low quality roms for the Gnex. It really is a casse of quality over quantity. And we also have some groundbreaking roms here, such as paranoidandroid.
Quality v.s. quantity.
Are you looking for ROMs built from ASOP or ROMS that are just a klang of another with skins?
IMHO, ASOP or CM9 is all that a person needs. Then add what you want and ignore the rest.
I think as far as ROMS go we have hit a plateau. Until the next release (assuming there are new features) nearly everything is available over the ROMS we currently have. I can see a few kernels coming up with new ideas but I think ROMS are as up to speed as we can expect for a while
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Well take a look at the nexus s forum. there's a rom for everyone! One Can never have too much choice! And again it was just a question. No Need to get all defensive.
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The fact the Nexus S has been around for a lot longer, that can happen.
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Hey All! Just got my gn a couple weeks ago and I love it! I must say though I'm a little surprised at how few roms there are out for it. I know it's new and all but still it HAS been out since last fall! Is this how long it normally takes to build a fan base with these phones? I'm not complaining. I just found it curious, coming from the Nexus S to owning the new Android flagship that there would still be such relatively little support by now. Any takers on the topic? I'd Be interested to hear your input!
Oh By the way, I'm in no way bashing the phone or this forum. I think both are outstanding. Just making conversation lol
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Gotta be careful what you say around here. I had opened up a similar thread where I was "complaining" about the Rom Support for the nexus and got flamed big time as effect.
Just watch out around here.. they don't like opinions
But coming from a sgs 2 I also was dissapointed to not find hundreds of different Roms for the nexus as there were for the galaxy s 2. Also every Rom on the nexus looks about the same and has about the same Features while for the galaxy they really differed.
I'm on bamf with bond Kernel and love them. But also waiting for an update from both since weeks....
-sent from my galaxy nexus
wait till jelly bean comes out
we have less ROMs coz they're all based on ICS , nexus S has various gingerbread versions too, not to mention it's been there for quite some time. as someone already said, basically we have everything we need with the current ROMs, except ParanoidAndroid, the only new idea could be a port of sense or tw for example, but then there's the same problem with drivers, certain hardware not working and so on.. Some people think for instance, that buying HTC or Samsung devices will give them more options, sense/TW roms and aosp/miui , and it does sound good in theory , but the reality is that u will always end up with a buggy AOSP experience (there's always something that's not working right-been through many devices and it's the same story all over again).
As a conclusion, people should make a little research before getting a device, if u like what sense or TW (or any other custom UI) offers u , then u should consider that device, if u want a real AOSP experience then the nexus is ur best choice. Not to mention that if u have a fetish to change the way ur UI looks u can always get a 3rd party launcher, AOSP handles it best coz sense or TW occupy more RAM and running a market launcher on top of all this just makes it worse.
yeah a lot of you guys make sense. I guess with all the options on the nexus s I had become a bit of a crack flasher. I just enjoyed trying out new and different roms and playing with them. but as someone just said here earlier all the ones here are pretty much the same. I'm using aokp now and I like it. I just also like other stuff too lol
thanks for your opinions everyone! keep em coming! great reading
I agree. I miss my galaxy s2 i9100. That phone has the most development. I wanna give you a reason for more development... it was expensive but it was launched everywhere in the world. Second you can run 4 different (base) types of roms.
1) touchwiz gingerbread
2) cm7 aosp based gingerbread
3) touchwiz ICS
4) cm9 aosp based ics roms
So you can see how there are always roms to flash. I loved flashing early builds as well. So I encourage more devs to build different and unique roms rather than taking features from other roms. Thanks
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Consider it a blessing. Towards the dying days of the SE X10, most of the renowned devs had moved on and then we had a million different variations of every kind of rom you could think of. We had heaps of MIUI roms which were all identical but with a different theme. Same story with Cyanogen roms.
There's really no need to have a plethora of roms because they all end up being the same. Its better to have a selection of high quality roms to pick from.
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in my experience most of the roms available are just variations of stock **** by some kid who learned to deodex and root. because what the world really needs is another ****ty rom based on sense.
there are no GB roms, no roms based on some vendor-ruined stock build. just AOSP. there are few bugs, just awesome features. you don't need a ton of roms when you have that.
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I agree. I miss my galaxy s2 i9100. That phone has the most development. I wanna give you a reason for more development... it was expensive but it was launched everywhere in the world. Second you can run 4 different (base) types of roms.
1) touchwiz gingerbread
2) cm7 aosp based gingerbread
3) touchwiz ICS
4) cm9 aosp based ics roms
So you can see how there are always roms to flash. I loved flashing early builds as well. So I encourage more devs to build different and unique roms rather than taking features from other roms. Thanks
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I second that.
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Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Completely depends on the person TBH. I am currently running ICS Telus Darkside ROM as my daily driver and it's a fantastic ROM, no issues that I can complain about.
AOKP is also an amazing ROM. It's vanilla android so you don't get any bloat that you would typically get from the carrier. You also don't get manufacturer specific apps like Samsung Kies and Social Hub. What you do get is a very lean, very fast ROM with oodles and oodles of customizations.
Doesn't hurt to try and see what you like best. Just remember to make a nandroid. Peace and happy flashing. :laugh:
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Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Your high
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Your high
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In a way he's right. Aokp has issues for me as far as how out chooses to mount the Sd cards,.but so does cm9. Dark side would be the best of not for the app hang issue that remains present. The ics megamix rom has given me the best performance thus far as stability is concerned.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Wow, what an insult to the AOKP guys. To be honest both AOKP and cm9 had some of the same issues recently. So for you to talk down AOKP because that is how you come off, is putting down cm9 as well. Be careful as these teams put in a lot of free hardworking time for us.
To answer the op question.. I like both but I like AOKP better. They fixed the audio problem that drove us crazy thanks to some great team work from another group. Only issue I have ran into with whitehawkx recent build is panoramic is having audio issues. Other than that this is an amazing well put together very customizable rom. The lockscreen is pretty awesome as well. Here are a few pics.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI.
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That is a load of garbage. However, CM is another option worth considering.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Hope you are wearing the right clothing, cuz you're about to get flamed.
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I say use both, I came from darkside to AOKP, but I still have darkside v7 as my nandroid back up just in case, give aokp a test run like I am right now and see where it takes you, no opinion is better than hands on experience.
Thanks all, just flashed ds so ill run it for at least a day then nandriod it and give aokp a whirl. Tbh i CAME from juggs and not a diff version of ds so i may like aokp better. Anyone got theme links for aokp?
Darkside evolution is what I'm using. Not getting any app hangs
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Since aokp is based off of cm9 they are a lot alike but aokp has more customizable features to it. There are bugs in both cm9 and aokp but it's to be expected with nightlies until it hits the stable. I have tried DS and prefer to stick with aokp. IMO
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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your 2c Don't mean a damn thing...
Lol the aokp team is pretty pro mate...
sorry unlike u some of us devs have more then just 7z skills or the people u downloaded roms from were just branded stock fail...
N people wonder why most the sgs2 devs left....
and JohnJon if you knew anything you would know miui is just a straight kang of cm with no credit given... The miui team still cant build there own rom from source without borrowing from cm wonder why that is...........
@ the person who asked which is better honestly go Aokp... Alot more customizatons then cm9.. Its fast its stably and you cant go worng with the pink unicorn...
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Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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to be honest if u ever have a issue with any rom make sure you start from clean slate wipe every thing wipe it again hell after that wipe it a third time to be safe then install.. Let rom sit for 20 mins before u do anything then add your apps back.. Dont use any restores as alot of times it causes more issues then a simple re download would have done better with.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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You're an idiot.
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You're an idiot.
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he lost all credibility at the miui team being a real developer lol.
this no offense was a large part in having issues with deving for this device every new release had 12 pages of *****ing not any constructive comments...
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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WOW... That has to be the most disrespectful comment I've ever read. Do you realize how many devices the aokp team supports and how much work they put in for FREE and you go off saying they are a bunch of script kiddie edits.. These are the type of comments that has our section deemed the black sheep of android due to people like this disrespecting real devs. Next time keep your 2 cents in your pocket.
I have tried various builds of AOKP and CM9 and I keep going back to Darkside. TDJ is super helpful; if there are issues he responds light speed and gets them fixed.
AOKP and CM9 are nicer looking, I will give it that. I did, however, find that they are both buggier than darkside ROMS, as an example on both AOKP and CM9 I found that many programs did not recognize my external SD and the usual fixes did not work for me, or they did work and soon the apps would not recognize the external SD again.
Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Troll attempt?? You have to know how defensive folks get about the dd they choose to run.
Anyway, take features into consideration when choosing. I can't live without MMS over wifi so tmobile builds are the only way to go, for me. I do flash other ROMS pretty regularly but for me pushing the tech and seeing what the devs are capable of is where the real fun is...
I'm really surprised at the lack of good aosp roms. Back in the nexus one days or even nexus s there was a plethora of Roms. For a developer device that's world wide you'd figure it would get more attention. The toro gets some good Roms but the maguro is pretty sparse. Feel free to share you opinions on the matter.
navillos said:
I'm really surprised at the lack of good aosp roms. Back in the nexus one days or even nexus s there was a plethora of Roms. For a developer device that's world wide you'd figure it would get more attention. The toro gets some good Roms but the maguro is pretty sparse. Feel free to share you opinions on the matter.
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Everywhere I go I am overwhelmed by the amount of roms. How can you be missing them?
lol i would much rather have a maguro nexus have you seen what the toroplus (sprint) has not much but still nothing to complain about
Quality, not quantity.
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I'm really surprised at the lack of good aosp roms.
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Are you saying all the roms suck? Why don't you make a better one then.
How often do you need to change roms when they're all based on the same rom?
So let me get this straight, you contribute nothing for free, you like using things for free, yet you like to complain about something that is offered to you for FREE. I swear, the nerve of some people...
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You do realize that the nexus s has 3 version of android thus more roms??? Maybe you can create a rom more suitable to your needs...
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I can't tell if serious.
If this thread was made in any non Nexus, SGS3, One X, SGS2, flagship device forum, I'd might have bought it.
3/10 for ridiculous thread.
But seriously, there's so many ROMs here, what are you looking for?
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I'm really surprised at the lack of good aosp roms. Back in the nexus one days or even nexus s there was a plethora of Roms. For a developer device that's world wide you'd figure it would get more attention. The toro gets some good Roms but the maguro is pretty sparse. Feel free to share you opinions on the matter.
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Well to be fair.... during those "Android" days. Those ROMs weren't really ROMs. They were just themed ROMs, which are now being featured as themes for existing ROMs and/or Theme Manager.
Lack of AOSP Roms? ummmm.....
1) CyanogenMod 9 / 10
2) AOKP
3) AndroidME
4) Gummy
........ etc
If there is such a lack, why don't you learn how to make a ROM and show people "how it's done?" since you're saying that there is a lack of good ROMs. Go make one, please. OP is most likely trolling.
I'd rather have good ROMs with actual development than a bunch of amateur skinned ROMs with some dumb tweaks anyone could do in 10 minutes.
There are TOO MANY roms for gnexus. Right now, there is little development done on JB outside CM10, AOKP and parandroid (not counting the not-yet-released development work).
Too many rom "cooks" and themers flooding the development section with 99% stock roms with a few added tweaks like APM, beat audio, init.d tweaks, etc. I'm not saying it's bad, but it's definitely redundant.
Going to close this before it gets too heated.
---Jay--- From the GNex