I've been using CM9 Kang by winner for a while now. I love it. Was thinking of switching over to AOKP M4 just to see if its better.
I'm using Franco's Kernel and I heard M4 is better than Stock AOKP.
Let me know your thoughts!
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AOKP FTW..!!!
I use AOKP since i get my Gnex and i can see their development speed which are amazingly fast.. If your interest are more on tweaks and extra features, i think better go for AOKP for now while waiting CM9 to release their milestone. I never flash CM9, i cant give much comment on their ROM. For kernel wise, i prefer Glados over Franco because Glados are more stable and problem free most of the time. Franco always implement features from Glados, sound like Glados is the master
Axi0m Crossbreed fo sho. =]
shadowstewie said:
I've been using CM9 Kang by winner for a while now. I love it. Was thinking of switching over to AOKP M4 just to see if its better.
I'm using Franco's Kernel and I heard M4 is better than Stock AOKP.
Let me know your thoughts!
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I will chime in here because I was in the same boat. However, I was using AOKP M4 w/ franco's kernel first. I read several posts/threads that stated how CM9 was smoother and faster than AOKP because of less features built-in.
I just flashed CM9 today w/ franco's kernel and I can definitely tell a difference - CM9 is the winner here. It only makes sense from the big picture. The CM guys know their poop - they've been developing ROMs far longer than any of these other guys.
My first rom that i flashed was winners CM9 Kang. Was very smooth. My only gripe was there were no mods for it. I switched over to AOKP and never looked back. Equally just as fast with tons of mods.
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You can always use Boot Manager as well to compare different roms. Works nicely for me, sometimes has issues with certain roms.
nbeebe24 said:
To answer your question, aokp is rich with features for customization of almost every aspect of the from. As of now cyanogenmod is playing catch up. But I know it'll be amazing in a short time. Most people use aokp because it requires less work to add/subtract what you do or don't want.
CM has a great reputation, but right now its nearly stock. I am waiting to see what they come out with then I'll probably run it (as I have on my previous nexus'). It all comes down to what you're looking for. If you want features galore, aokp is the right choice. Just run it until CM9 gets rolling
Some of you really need to get off your high horse. Sarcastic and rude comments are totally unnecessary. What if your teachers in kindergarten and beyond told you to stop asking stupid questions? This is a place for learning, sharing, and growing not for ridiculing.
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Here here, well said.
I find myself switching back and forward between yhese two roms there both really good so i aint fonna say witch i think is best.
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My opinion is that, I will keep use AOKP M4 and not consider CM9 until there comes the stable version of CM9. Just for stability.
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My opinion is that, I will keep use AOKP M4 and not consider CM9 until there comes the stable version of CM9. Just for stability.
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CM9 has been incredibly stable since the "experimental" builds. CM tends to have a different definition of "stable".
adrynalyne said:
This isn't rocket science. You try both and make an informed decision. Everyone values things differently. Others cannot make an informed decision for you.
Call it sarcastic or rude, if you want. I call it thinking for yourself, because nobody has unbiased or objective rom reviews. Its all fanboish nonsense.
Apple thrives off of those who don't want to make a decision themselves, by the way.
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Agreed, its not rocket science, but I just think people throughout these threads have been answering in unnecessarily rude ways. Just tell him the CM9 is minimal right now and AOKP has a lot of features. There's car references and all kinds of unneeded things going on in here
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I just deleted over half the posts in this thread.......
It's simple. If you don't want to help or have anything helpful to say, back out of the thread and move on. I will only say this once.
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CM9 has been incredibly stable since the "experimental" builds. CM tends to have a different definition of "stable".
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But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.
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But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.
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the cm9 nightlies (experimental) are very very stable and good for daily use but,
like said in here before, they lack quite some of the extra features
if you're looking for rom's with more options try AOKP, Gummynex, Codename Android or any other rom you can find on xda ... they are all good roms which give you plenty of options.
it's all just a matter of personal taste in the end i guess
good luck and enjoy!
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But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.
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I hear what you're saying; and I agree the nomenclature can strike fear into newbies.
Luckily with the GN there are a lot of good ROMs available; more quality options to choose from compared to other devices.
I'll find Apex rom very fast and very stable, with leankernel. He's only problem is that it's not update for a while, that could indicate an abandon from the dev. Instead, roman, from AOKP, is very dedicated and his rom growing fast and constantly
Edit: Meh, I'll just try them all!
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I wanted to ask you guys which roms are you using and why
back when I had SGS2 on AT&T (international) version I used to change roms a lot because some looked nice and i remember when first trying ICS on SGS2. Anyway I am running AOKP B29 battery life is really awesome on that one but I get bored of it -_-
I wanted to try MIUI and I did try but it's really slow.. I heard MIUI is popular with theming nd stuff
any recommendations?
Stock.
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Stock.
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Well what is the benefit of stock.. no extra mods at all...
AOKP seems to bring some features but I am all about the looks
go back to AOKP B29 until MIUI releases a FULLY FUNCTIONAL stable daily driver.
then use ADW EX to customize ur screen how ever u like.
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go back to AOKP B29 until MIUI releases a FULLY FUNCTIONAL stable daily driver.
then use ADW EX to customize ur screen how ever u like.
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+1 for AOKP... not a huge fan of MIUI at all.
And no, don't use ADW EX. Apex Launcher on the market is free and is optimized for ICS.
ADW EX hasn't been updated in months. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hbmRkb2VzLmxhdW5jaGVyIl0.
aokp is probabely the most feature rich and popular and usually has new features in each build that other roms add to their next builds. It's pretty stable (especially in milestone builds) and works well. Speed is same as stock in my experience. frequent updates which is nice.
gummy has same features more or less in a different package and also comes out with unique features from time to time. Pretty similiar to aokp if you ask me.
Liquidsmooth is 90% aokp but it feels a little faster due to some tweaks. It's much more buggy though imo. I've heard a lot of people with wifi, gps and nfc problems. It also lacks a little polish. I'd wait this one out.
CNA (codenameandroid) doesn't have any new features because it's 95% kang of aokp and gummy. It's probabely the most feature packed. It is surprisingly stable though: probably because obvious bugs in aokp and gummy's new features are resolved before they are released with cna. It doesn't get a lot of respect in the community due to kanging but if you don't care about xda drama, it's just as fine.
BAMF is a little different from aokp and gummy. It doesn't share a lot of code with them and has it's own toggles and settings which are kinda nicer. It lacks a lot of aokp/gummy features but has most of the important ones. It also has some unique stuff baked in. It's as stable as gummy and aokp milestones but the updates are much less frequent. bamf devs prefer to do a lot of testing behind close doors before release. If you are a crackflasher, stay away. Speed is ok.
CM9 Nightlies are WIP. It has very few features and a lot of place holders. Stay away unless you really like the cutting edge.
MIUI is nowhere near fully function. It's fine to have a little fun with from time to time but definitely not a daily driver. Wait at least 2-3 weeks for this one.
My personal choice: Black ICE, which is basically aokp with a dark theme. you can find it at rootzwiki.
that's pretty much all the popular gsm roms. I don't know about lte specific roms.
My vote goes for Axi0m Patient Zero
I suggest using the search function or perhaps waste time just like everyone else and try different roms, kernels and mods. im sure there are numerous threads that start out like this, Hi! What ROM/Kernel would you suggest!?
Sheesh....some ppl are becoming lazy in READING and SCROLLING thru other threads that have already been answered and solved. I guarantee another thread SIMILAR to this will pop up sometime soon.
Google search and XDA search is ur best friend. Learn to use it. Since you have used MIUI b4, im sure its not that difficult to try the other roms out there. :banghead:
Goodluck?
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I suggest using the search function or perhaps waste time just like everyone else and try different roms, kernels and mods. im sure there are numerous threads that start out like this, Hi! What ROM/Kernel would you suggest!?
Sheesh....some ppl are becoming lazy in READING and SCROLLING thru other threads that have already been answered and solved. I guarantee another thread SIMILAR to this will pop up sometime soon.
Google search and XDA search is ur best friend. Learn to use it. Since you have used MIUI b4, im sure its not that difficult to try the other roms out there. :banghead:
Goodluck?
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Actually I did search a little...
I check XDA/Rootz Wiki everyday.
Just wanted opinion from few people on a est rom. I check everyday for AOKP updates and other roms on XDA.
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I use stock 4.04 too. But I'm not a fan of flashing a different ROM everyday so may be that's why I love stock.
Im using AOKP latest version now - is great as keeps all the looks of stock but with the extras that stock should have had to start with.
Looking forward to a "daily driver" version of MIUI is out - so much better for theming.
I am no fan of nightlies and only look for stable versions. Currently, I run stock 4.0.4 but am looking into flashing a stable ROM and kernel. I tried AOKP nightly and a franco kernel nightly but want a stable release.
I've heard a lot of good things about AOKP Milestone 4 and Franco's Milestone 2 kernel, but what do you think? I'd like CM9, but there are only nightlies released so far.
What ROM and kernel work best for you that aren't nightly builds, i.e "stables" or "milestones?"
I personally haven't seen ANY problems on the newest AOKP.
I think the buglist on 32 is literally down to 2 things that people have found...
Pressing "reset navbar" causes a SystemUI FC loop.
Fix: Don't press it? All it does is return your navbar back to stock settings. You can do this manually in 5 quick button presses if you really wanted to anyway.
Torch will enable...but not disable...when used from the "power menu" (the menu that pops up when you hold power.
Fix: Remove torch option from power menu...use toggles instead. Or, toggle "off" with the status-bar toggle if you wish.
You see, I don't like nightly builds or builds which are updated every second day.
That's the thing about nightlies. One fix for one bug may break another feature and fixing that might break a third feature. I have had previous experiences with nightlies on my old Nexus One and therefore I want to have a stable release.
I appreciate your input and it's been noted. If many people happen to recommend the nightly builds I might just try them.
I love this phone and have nothing to complain about. It's a huge step up from the N1.
While that may remain true...
And I appreciate the fact that you're a purist...
I'm generally THE bug-finder for AOKP builds.
The devs even seem to take note of my posts...and have PM'ed me a few times asking for logs/details/tests/etc.
Clean flashing (obviously) and I haven't found anything in the last couple days.
Also, while these "builds" are technically "nightlies" in that they're pulled for us at random, it seems...
They also don't occur every night (as you may be well aware) so if the daily flashing drives you away...it'll be more like weekly with AOKP if you want to stay up-to-date.
Gosh.
I never ever recommend a rom to people asking. Generally just tell 'em to "find your zen" on your own...
But I just wanted to emphasize the stability here.
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Oh, and builds 31/32 are prequels to another Milestone build. So if you don't find something you like by then...Milestone 5 is always a possibility.
I don't know if there will be a 33 first...
But Roman mentioned we're fast-approaching one.
Jubakuba said:
While that may remain true...
And I appreciate the fact that you're a purist...
I'm generally THE bug-finder for AOKP builds.
The devs even seem to take note of my posts...and have PM'ed me a few times asking for logs/details/tests/etc.
Clean flashing (obviously) and I haven't found anything in the last couple days.
Also, while these "builds" are technically "nightlies" in that they're pulled for us at random, it seems...
They also don't occur every night (as you may be well aware) so if the daily flashing drives you away...it'll be more like weekly with AOKP if you want to stay up-to-date.
Gosh.
I never ever recommend a rom to people asking. Generally just tell 'em to "find your zen" on your own...
But I just wanted to emphasize the stability here.
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Oh, and builds 31/32 are prequels to another Milestone build. So if you don't find something you like by then...Milestone 5 is always a possibility.
I don't know if there will be a 33 first...
But Roman mentioned we're fast-approaching one.
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What do you mean with me being a purist?
Lol, just that you like everything to "just work" and be completely stable.
I don't mean it offensively.
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Lol, just that you like everything to "just work" and be completely stable.
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Well that's not entirely true, and I guess I somehow worded it wrong. I want a ROM that's stable, kinda lika OTA-stable but anything near a stable OTA is fine by me. The part where it "just works" it not really 100% accurate as I wouldn't choose android as my OS if I wanted stuff to "just work".
Some customization has to be done for me, whether it's homescreen editing or overclocking and whatnot.
Either I worded it wrong or you misunderstood, but I consider the first option since I'm not speaking English natively.
im using black ice aokp with francokernel r135.stable as official release
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We honestly need to ban "what's the best rom" topics...
I've decided I want to run a nightly now, after spending hours and hours of checking ROMs, and I think it's safe to say I'll choose between either CM9 and AOKP.
Then it comes down to what kernel to use.
I am really sorry for being such a pain in the rear for you guys.
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I've decided I want to run a nightly now, after spending hours and hours of checking ROMs, and I think it's safe to say I'll choose between either CM9 and AOKP.
Then it comes down to what kernel to use.
I am really sorry for being such a pain in the rear for you guys.
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He he!!
I'm using Aokp 32 and Franco 135. Have had no issues, reboots or fCs. Just ensured not to do the 2 things mentioned above.
I absolutely love it. Couldn't be better.
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He he!!
I'm using Aokp 32 and Franco 135. Have had no issues, reboots or fCs. Just ensured not to do the 2 things mentioned above.
I absolutely love it. Couldn't be better.
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Okay, I've flashed franco 135 and AOKP 32. Feels alright so far.
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I am no fan of nightlies and only look for stable versions. Currently, I run stock 4.0.4 but am looking into flashing a stable ROM and kernel. I tried AOKP nightly and a franco kernel nightly but want a stable release.
I've heard a lot of good things about AOKP Milestone 4 and Franco's Milestone 2 kernel, but what do you think? I'd like CM9, but there are only nightlies released so far.
What ROM and kernel work best for you that aren't nightly builds, i.e "stables" or "milestones?"
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My preferences in order of quality, stability and speed.
LiquidSmooth 1.2 (default imo kernel)
BAMF 1.2
Foxhound 0.4
AOKP m4
Liquidsmooth 1.25 + Trinity - Bomb Proof.
May test out a new rom soon but liquid has everything I need so dont see a reason to switch expect the fact to see what other roms has to offer. Still waiting on CM9 to get few more features.
I only use the stable Rooms/Kernels myself. I been using AOKP build 32 and used Tuna-faux 123 and had no issues or problems. I am noe using the stable version of Franco's Kernel. And again, no issues. I used to always use regular CM but after using AOKP I just keep using it. I know there's all kinds of roms built off of AOKP as others. But I just use the stock versions of ROMS. Like stock CM9 or AOKP and not a ROM built off of it.
There's a lot of great choices out there. Find what works best for you and your device.
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AOKP 32 with Latest Stable Lean Kernel with Interactivex governor = Best battery and performance!
Honestly I'm loving AOKP M3 and Leankernel 3.0.0. I had battery issues with francos and stuck with it till about #13, then switched to lean and never looked back. My battery life has improved dramatically and performance is still no problem
With regard to AOKP's stability, I used to stay up to date with it but I think I might just start looking for the milestones, mostly because I think I don't end up using the vast majority of features they introduce with every build. I also got hit with that systemui bug in 32 and ended up just reverting to 31 before the devs posted a workaround because it made the phone unusable. I think I got a little comfy assuming that the beta line was generally stable.
I've been thinking of trying Liquidsmooth when they release the newer 1.3, which based on the chatter in its thread sounds like it will be soon.
As far as kernels go, I think leankernel is the way to go if you're a fan of stable releases. The stable branch probably sees an update about once a week with new features. I don't use franco's kernel mostly because the milestone releases are so far and few between, but apparently he's working with the liquid team for optimizing their rom, so maybe franco M3 and liquid 1.3 will be a nice combo to settle into when those hit.
JoeSyr said:
With regard to AOKP's stability, I used to stay up to date with it but I think I might just start looking for the milestones, mostly because I think I don't end up using the vast majority of features they introduce with every build. I also got hit with that systemui bug in 32 and ended up just reverting to 31 before the devs posted a workaround because it made the phone unusable. I think I got a little comfy assuming that the beta line was generally stable.
I've been thinking of trying Liquidsmooth when they release the newer 1.3, which based on the chatter in its thread sounds like it will be soon.
As far as kernels go, I think leankernel is the way to go if you're a fan of stable releases. The stable branch probably sees an update about once a week with new features. I don't use franco's kernel mostly because the milestone releases are so far and few between, but apparently he's working with the liquid team for optimizing their rom, so maybe franco M3 and liquid 1.3 will be a nice combo to settle into when those hit.
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Can you hit me up with a link to the leankernel? I can't seem to find it.
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Can you hit me up with a link to the leankernel? I can't seem to find it.
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you'll have to go to rootzwiki for it ... try GLaDOS kernel too while you're there i swear by it (after trying them all)
... at least for me imo CM9 + GLaDOS are my picks i always come back to them every time (so far)
Which rom do you like best and why?
I'm currently running CM9, Coming from the stock GSM 4.0.1, I think the battery on CM9 is heaps better but what are the others like? Thanks.
I want battery percentage (required) and possibly OC.
Also, If i was to flash AOKP is there any way to backup my homescreen? I've spent a while setting it up and it takes a while to do so. Thanks
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Which rom do you like best and why?
I'm currently running CM9, Coming from the stock GSM 4.0.1, I think the battery on CM9 is heaps better but what are the others like? Thanks.
I want battery percentage (required) and possibly OC.
Also, If i was to flash AOKP is there any way to backup my homescreen? I've spent a while setting it up and it takes a while to do so. Thanks
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Aokp got more features and less stability. I prefer cm coz I can't withstand frequent reboot. Can't stay on aokp more than one day.
I am using Nova launcher. It got backup function.
But I prefer to use ROM manager + cwm to backup the whole ROM before I try sth new and risky.
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How does the battery compare? I'm on AOKP now and I find it very unstable. Once I click unlock it takes like 2 seconds for screen to come on.
I use AOKP M5 on a daily basis and I have been since M4 and its stable as a rock for me. Plus all the features are a great plus
Cm9 is too incomplete.. aokp is too slow. Slim has all the aokp features and its fast
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I too was wondering the sake, I just got my GN yesterday rooted it and first thing I did was flash AOKP because I've heard so much about it coming from a GS2. And so far I found it stable but am curious about CM9 and slim as well. So I too would appreciate some feedback
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I've been using AOKP with the tuv A1 kernel. For the most part it has been pretty stable and faster than what I was used to. The only times I have had any issue is with a lockscreen. If I use one, sometimes the phone freezes when trying to unlock. This has been frustrating for me since I am using a Seidio case. I have to remove the phone case to get to the back to pull the battery. The battery cover is a big enough pain in the ass. The case makes it worse. I have since turned off the lockscreen completely and I haven't had a freeze in 2 days.
I was kinda leaning towards slim ICS as well to test the waters on that one.
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I too was wondering the sake, I just got my GN yesterday rooted it and first thing I did was flash AOKP because I've heard so much about it coming from a GS2. And so far I found it stable but am curious about CM9 and slim as well. So I too would appreciate some feedback
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so make a nandroid backup and go and try the rom.
no one can tell you the ROM is good/bad or whatever, you have to make that conclusion yourself. its like saying, rock music is the best music. some people may agree and some will disagree. will you decide the answer to it without trying it? no... just go try it.
there are WAY too many threads on "whats the best rom?" "which rom to use?" ..... just read the thread and conclude yourself.
AOKP is not slow. CM9 is definitely incomplete hence "nightly"
I have never heard of a slim rom. Wish they would port it to the Sprint GN.
I'm on CM9 but Slim is a good, lightweight, quick ROM. It has some of the features of popular features of AOKP built in. I've run it in the past, and wouldn't hesitate to run it again.
Using slim now, never got a full day out of AOKP, to unstable for me. How does the battery compare? I remember having 50% after one day with data off and 2g on on CM9, and wondering how the battery compares.
you forgot liquidsmooth!
personally, i use aokp m5 and have had no problems...
I am running the latest CM9 Nightly on my Verizon Nexus, and my Wife's Nexus is on AOKP 5.
My personal opinion I prefer CM9, is more low key and not so flashy, but still super fast / smooth, and has a great color control to really make the AMOLED screen pop.
I do like the million options AOKP 5 offers in settings, but CM9 will be getting those eventually. But something about the stripped down clean feel of CM9 appeals to me more.
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CM9 for sure its rock solid and stable and the kernel is superfast and great on battery like you said. Just wait until they put theme manager in again ... it may be there as soon as the next nightly it looks like
AOKP is unstable, I always ditch it and its getting a bit bloated for my liking and i don't find I use much of the features anyway
Slim ICS is good if you dont want any features lol
AOKP not stable and slow? Mmmm disagree from here to heaven...
Been on aokp since m4 now on m5 + Franco, run buttery smooth and great battery /feature rich.. Had not a single problem with it and wouldn't change it for anything
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Never had a single problem with AOKP and I use my phone heavily on a variety of features plus benchmark tests as well.
That was all with a dirty flash from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 builds so I don't understand where the slow or unstable is coming from.
if you stick to the milestone releases with AOKP you are *pretty much* good to go but the in between builds are always buggy ... like the build where AOKP set your bluetooth address to a generic one for and not your actual phones address, for example. I've also had random reboots with AOKP. AOKP uses it's users as the beta testers and gets bug reports from them.
the OP asked for advice and i told him my experience with AOKP, other users mileage may vary but, there is no denying AOKP non milestone releases have new bugs per release. Having said that AOKP is a beast of a rom and Team Kang are pushing the forefront for ICS features.
IMO if the OP wants a smooth rom with stability and more features properly tested and added daily you can not beat the CM9 experience on the Gnex. that is all
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IMO if the OP wants a smooth rom with stability and more features properly tested and added daily you can not beat the CM9 experience on the Gnex. that is all
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Yep, CM9 is moving a long very nicely lately, and the pace has really picked up in the last week or so, some big development updates every other release now. Next update tomorrow or Tuesday will have some really cool features implemented.
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Yep, CM9 is moving a long very nicely lately, and the pace has really picked up in the last week or so, some big development updates every other release now. Next update tomorrow or Tuesday will have some really cool features implemented.
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Agreed, CM9 has really been picking up speed now that the new build servers are online. Can't wait for the theme chooser implementation in the new builds ...
You can see that Cyanogen are really trying to set themselves apart as true professionals ... and they are
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I use AOKP M5 on a daily basis and I have been since M4 and its stable as a rock for me. Plus all the features are a great plus
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+1
As a recent convert to the Gnex (previously a Sensation owner) I have been eying the dev forum for some time. With my Sensation I was fairly "flash happy" and I ended up with in my opinion the best AOSP 'like' ROM on the market which was the original HyperNonSense. Of course, now that I have a Gnex that pure Google flavor is available right out of the box so I need to consider different things with the available ROMs.
Can someone please detail the main functional differences between AOKP, CM9, and Gummy for me? Yes, I realize I can read the pages (and pages, AND PAGES) of changelogs and features associated with each ROM but that is a tedious process. I assume that people who have frequented this particular forum for a while can easily explain the basic yet significant differences in two or three bullet points, and that would be GREATLY appreciated.
AOKP has the most features. CM9 is more or less stock with some added features at the moment. Gummy is like CM but with a few more features but less than AOKP. Gummy has some cool unique ones though. Another one I recommend is Liquid smooth. It is like a AOKP feature wise and actually has a few more but it is light weight like CM.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
joshnichols189 said:
AOKP has the most features. CM9 is more or less stock with some added features at the moment. Gummy is like CM but with a few more features but less than AOKP. Gummy has some cool unique ones though. Another one I recommend is Liquid smooth. It is like a AOKP feature wise and actually has a few more but it is light weight like CM.
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
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Thats some good info, thank you. Can you detail a few of the unique or cool features you mention? I had actually not considered Liquid Smooth however I will based on your recommendation.
I've been running AOKP Build 38 for the last few days and I like it. I've had a couple issues here and there with my Exchange Sync but otherwise has been great. As I mentioned in a few other threads I feel my phone runs hotter with AOKP.
I've also tried LiquidSmooth and had 0 complaints and in fact Liquid is the only ROM I've tried that has profile support for ringers/notifications (huge for me). Its so nice that when I go to bed at night I can turn notification off for everything but phone calls without having to set each individually.
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Thats some good info, thank you. Can you detail a few of the unique or cool features you mention? I had actually not considered Liquid Smooth however I will based on your recommendation.
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As mentioned above, liquid has profiles for notifications. Gummy has the carrier text persistent in the top left of the status bar (like MIUI) which I really like. Liquid has a choice between toggles like CM or like AOKP (I hate AOKP style toggles). Liquid also lets you change the notification shade transparency on the fly which is nice. There are others but I'm at the gym ans can't think of them haha
"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light."
Cm has profiles as well and were probably the originators. While aokp has more features, cm do test more thoroughly as they aim to produce stable and quality code. Sometimes aokp use ugly hacks to do things, which cm will never do. In my experience cm seems a little faster than aokp, although I often toy with both I lean slightly more towards cm.
Never used gummy extensively as the boot sound is very annoying and it doesn't seem to offer anything that the other two don't.
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AOKP = packed with features. Stable and fast.
CM9 = Less features than AOKP. Stable and fast.
Gummy = Kinda like AOKP. Haven't tried it.
Liquidsmooth = Like AOKP. Somewhat solid and stable, but its developers are whoring for money and only give out their nightly builds by hanging out in their IRC or by donating.
BuglessBeast = based on stock but better and far more solid and stable.
SlimICS = Heavily slimmed down ROM. Stable and fast.
http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/18297-[ROM]-BlackICE-maguro-Kangorade
My favorite
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CM9 - Fastest
AOKP - Most feature Rich
Gummy - Mixture of above two
All you need to know.
All these Roms are great. As an added bonus, I would also look into Franco's Kernel. I am not sure though, if CM9 is compatible with Franco's Kernel.
tried all those roms but still went back to MIUI.
zeke1988 said:
tried all those roms but still went back to MIUI.
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Can't tell if trolling, or actually likes MIUI.
miketoasty said:
Can't tell if trolling, or actually likes MIUI.
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Each to their own. We should celebrate diversity ... can't have any on some systems ... cough ... iClone ... cough
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I would recommend Paranoid Android. It is based on CM9, but gives you the option of TabletUI, PhoneUI, and HybridUI. I have not had a problem with things not working.
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Each to their own. We should celebrate diversity ... can't have any on some systems ... cough ... iClone ... cough
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I was more joking, as you said diversity is a good thing!
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I was more joking, as you said diversity is a good thing!
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Sure it is, and even though MIUI is great, it's kind of bothering enough as it is with Apple and their lame excuse of a mobile OS *shrug*
zeke1988 said:
tried all those roms but still went back to MIUI.
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Can't tell if trolling, or actually likes MIUI.
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he doesn't troll,he likes miui very much!
for me AOKP--full-featured,stable and fast
CM9--less features,stable and a little more faster
Liquid--full-featured,more than aokp (aokp's features plus others)very fast (fastest i think..)but only english language and the fact sad some posts before.(nightly on donation or IRC)
BlackICE--an aokp based rom plus many many features from cm9.fully featured like liquid,same stability than others,a b it more fast than aokp,and a bit less fast than liquid(but with many languages).really like the features of this rom,it's my daily driver.a plus of this rom is the fact that it's black&blue themed.
all these are only my personal experience in months of testing\flashing.good chooice!
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I would recommend Paranoid Android. It is based on CM9, but gives you the option of TabletUI, PhoneUI, and HybridUI. I have not had a problem with things not working.
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I saw that one the other day and it does look interesting, however I think I want to try a "standard" ROM first. Once I get a feel for what other options are available I will certainly check out Paranoid.
How have been your experiences with battery life for each rom?
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Cm has profiles as well and were probably the originators. While aokp has more features, cm do test more thoroughly as they aim to produce stable and quality code. Sometimes aokp use ugly hacks to do things, which cm will never do. In my experience cm seems a little faster than aokp, although I often toy with both I lean slightly more towards cm.
Never used gummy extensively as the boot sound is very annoying and it doesn't seem to offer anything that the other two don't.
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Gerrit.aokp.co - feel free to fix any of those functioning 'ugly hacks'
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Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Completely depends on the person TBH. I am currently running ICS Telus Darkside ROM as my daily driver and it's a fantastic ROM, no issues that I can complain about.
AOKP is also an amazing ROM. It's vanilla android so you don't get any bloat that you would typically get from the carrier. You also don't get manufacturer specific apps like Samsung Kies and Social Hub. What you do get is a very lean, very fast ROM with oodles and oodles of customizations.
Doesn't hurt to try and see what you like best. Just remember to make a nandroid. Peace and happy flashing. :laugh:
Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Your high
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Your high
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In a way he's right. Aokp has issues for me as far as how out chooses to mount the Sd cards,.but so does cm9. Dark side would be the best of not for the app hang issue that remains present. The ics megamix rom has given me the best performance thus far as stability is concerned.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Wow, what an insult to the AOKP guys. To be honest both AOKP and cm9 had some of the same issues recently. So for you to talk down AOKP because that is how you come off, is putting down cm9 as well. Be careful as these teams put in a lot of free hardworking time for us.
To answer the op question.. I like both but I like AOKP better. They fixed the audio problem that drove us crazy thanks to some great team work from another group. Only issue I have ran into with whitehawkx recent build is panoramic is having audio issues. Other than that this is an amazing well put together very customizable rom. The lockscreen is pretty awesome as well. Here are a few pics.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI.
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That is a load of garbage. However, CM is another option worth considering.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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Hope you are wearing the right clothing, cuz you're about to get flamed.
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I say use both, I came from darkside to AOKP, but I still have darkside v7 as my nandroid back up just in case, give aokp a test run like I am right now and see where it takes you, no opinion is better than hands on experience.
Thanks all, just flashed ds so ill run it for at least a day then nandriod it and give aokp a whirl. Tbh i CAME from juggs and not a diff version of ds so i may like aokp better. Anyone got theme links for aokp?
Darkside evolution is what I'm using. Not getting any app hangs
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Since aokp is based off of cm9 they are a lot alike but aokp has more customizable features to it. There are bugs in both cm9 and aokp but it's to be expected with nightlies until it hits the stable. I have tried DS and prefer to stick with aokp. IMO
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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your 2c Don't mean a damn thing...
Lol the aokp team is pretty pro mate...
sorry unlike u some of us devs have more then just 7z skills or the people u downloaded roms from were just branded stock fail...
N people wonder why most the sgs2 devs left....
and JohnJon if you knew anything you would know miui is just a straight kang of cm with no credit given... The miui team still cant build there own rom from source without borrowing from cm wonder why that is...........
@ the person who asked which is better honestly go Aokp... Alot more customizatons then cm9.. Its fast its stably and you cant go worng with the pink unicorn...
Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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to be honest if u ever have a issue with any rom make sure you start from clean slate wipe every thing wipe it again hell after that wipe it a third time to be safe then install.. Let rom sit for 20 mins before u do anything then add your apps back.. Dont use any restores as alot of times it causes more issues then a simple re download would have done better with.
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Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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You're an idiot.
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You're an idiot.
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he lost all credibility at the miui team being a real developer lol.
this no offense was a large part in having issues with deving for this device every new release had 12 pages of *****ing not any constructive comments...
jonjon68 said:
Neither. If you want a stable Android ROM MOD go CM. There are really only two legitimate "developers" of ROM mods out there. The Cyanogenmod team and MIUI. I haven't seen a legitimate MIUI port for this device (other than a massaged ATT device trainwreck) yet but CM9 is stable and typical of CM, which is polished and refined. Not just a bunch of script kiddie edits. My opinion and you will get contrary opinions which is fine. Mine is based off 4 years of android device use and just as long modified ROM adoption. Will the others work on occasion? Yes, just not consistently and without a lot of actul improvements. Rather usually clumsy attempts as improvements that are just as likely to turn your phone in to a mess. Of the 5 android phones I've had this one has been no different with the MODs out there for me. My 2 cents.
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WOW... That has to be the most disrespectful comment I've ever read. Do you realize how many devices the aokp team supports and how much work they put in for FREE and you go off saying they are a bunch of script kiddie edits.. These are the type of comments that has our section deemed the black sheep of android due to people like this disrespecting real devs. Next time keep your 2 cents in your pocket.
I have tried various builds of AOKP and CM9 and I keep going back to Darkside. TDJ is super helpful; if there are issues he responds light speed and gets them fixed.
AOKP and CM9 are nicer looking, I will give it that. I did, however, find that they are both buggier than darkside ROMS, as an example on both AOKP and CM9 I found that many programs did not recognize my external SD and the usual fixes did not work for me, or they did work and soon the apps would not recognize the external SD again.
Vibreezy said:
Hi guys, just recently came over from juggs. Currently running ds v7, im having app hangs and was wondering the honest opinion of aokp vs ds for those who have tried both. I will keep ds for now and see if problems persist. If so ill test aokp. Thanks.
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Troll attempt?? You have to know how defensive folks get about the dd they choose to run.
Anyway, take features into consideration when choosing. I can't live without MMS over wifi so tmobile builds are the only way to go, for me. I do flash other ROMS pretty regularly but for me pushing the tech and seeing what the devs are capable of is where the real fun is...