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What's the big hype?

I hope I don't offend anyone and I'm not trying to start any war between AOKP and CM9 but I just wanted to know what's the big hype about CM9? I see some features in AOKP that I haven't seen in CM9. Just seems like everyone is going crazy over CM and I've flashed their rom before and enjoyed their hard work and I am thankful of every team out there that makes Roms. Don't want to seem like that bad guy.

A lot of people have been running CM for a long time (like since CM5 launched). Its that quintessential custom ROM that lots of people have an attachment to I think.

martonikaj said:
A lot of people have been running CM for a long time (like since CM5 launched). Its that quintessential custom ROM that lots of people have an attachment to I think.
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Gotcha, thats understandable. I just expected them to blow other roms out the water but AOKP has been extremely stable and full of customization.

From my expierence on the boards (going back to when the HTC EVO was the biggest baddest on the block) CM is a nameplate that carrys a long history of being a very lightweight Rom . It has always had a good sized list of developers on its team through during its time . Its also known as one of the roms that usually has multipul devices under its sleeves . Not to go overboard but finding better fitting descriptions . They are more or less legend when it comes to roms . There has always been a CM(x) out there . Im sure there will always been a CM(x) for future devices as well . I think basically the convience is as people switch devices as time goes on there is always a constant these people can look to and that is CM . Atleast thats my take on it

SouthernEvo said:
From my expierence on the boards (going back to when the HTC EVO was the biggest baddest on the block) CM is a nameplate that carrys a long history of being a very lightweight Rom . It has always had a good sized list of developers on its team through during its time . Its also known as one of the roms that usually has multipul devices under its sleeves . Not to go overboard but finding better fitting descriptions . They are more or less legend when it comes to roms . There has always been a CM(x) out there . Im sure there will always been a CM(x) for future devices as well . I think basically the convience is as people switch devices as time goes on there is always a constant these people can look to and that is CM . Atleast thats my take on it
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cool cool. thanks for your input. I ran their rom when I had my G2x and i liked it

Soldi3rxx said:
Gotcha, thats understandable. I just expected them to blow other roms out the water but AOKP has been extremely stable and full of customization.
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You also have to understand that cyanogenmod just released their first nightly for the Galaxy Nexus, while AOKP has been out for some time (though I don't know exactly how long since I'm fairly new to the galaxy nexus myself). CM also has supported tons of devices (over 60 if wikipedia is right ).

Stability, lightweight, and an approach that borders straight professionalism. That's why I like CM and have always had it on mine--and my friends'--phones.
Some roms are really, really fun and have a variety of positives (and negatives). Other roms choose to improve upon the basic Android OS and offer the user that functions simply but contains a host of neat features. CM is the latter in my book.

CM9 currently lacks some settings other roms have. That said CM9 will add them and much more, work on a plethora of devices and remain working with updates long after many of these other Roms are long dead.

CM9 may lack some features compared to other roms but no roms lack in features borrowed from CM9.

Talk to me when AOKP supports 50+ devices....
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I think with ICS everything changed and cyan got set back significantly due to drastic OS changes. So yes aokp is far ahead right now.

adrynalyne said:
CM9 may lack some features compared to other roms but no roms lack in features borrowed from CM9.
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I'm not sure if this saying still works, but "quoted for truth."
A rom without ANY CM influence/features is a rarity, and dare I say it pretty impossible to find.
CM9 may lack features, but so far it's the most stable "nightly" I've come across.

matt2053 said:
Talk to me when AOKP supports 50+ devices....
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It's actually slowly going in that direction with the multiple device support of AOKP expanding to many devices including the T-Mobile Vibrant (recently!)

dmmarck said:
I'm not sure if this saying still works, but "quoted for truth."
A rom without ANY CM influence/features is a rarity, and dare I say it pretty impossible to find
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You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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ljordan2 said:
You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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Yup have heard the same.
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ljordan2 said:
You are right. I think that even MIUI has borrowed some stuff from cm sources(read it from some thread).
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Some? A lot of MIUI is based off of CM source.

CM9 has been slower out of the gates because of reasons already mentioned; namely a huge stable of devices to support, the build bot was borked for quite a while as well. Settings will come in time, again # of devices. They also lay the ground work for many other ROMs, not to say that there aren't people doing a lot of coding of their own.
For many devices they're the only AOSP like ROM available. It's stable and quick, but if you absolutely need a lot of the custom settings right now, then you'll have to look elsewhere for the moment.

cm rom are good and much much more stable, from my own experience.

mudferret said:
For many devices they're the only AOSP like ROM available. It's stable and quick, but if you absolutely need a lot of the custom settings right now, then you'll have to look elsewhere for the moment.
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So what is the point of flashing CM9 on the GNex? Stock is already stable and quick and CM9 doesn't seem to have any extra features..

gabster21 said:
So what is the point of flashing CM9 on the GNex? Stock is already stable and quick and CM9 doesn't seem to have any extra features..
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There is no stock 4.0.3 for the GN
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AOKP M4 vs. CM9 Kang by winner

I've been using CM9 Kang by winner for a while now. I love it. Was thinking of switching over to AOKP M4 just to see if its better.
I'm using Franco's Kernel and I heard M4 is better than Stock AOKP.
Let me know your thoughts!
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AOKP FTW..!!!
I use AOKP since i get my Gnex and i can see their development speed which are amazingly fast.. If your interest are more on tweaks and extra features, i think better go for AOKP for now while waiting CM9 to release their milestone. I never flash CM9, i cant give much comment on their ROM. For kernel wise, i prefer Glados over Franco because Glados are more stable and problem free most of the time. Franco always implement features from Glados, sound like Glados is the master

Axi0m Crossbreed fo sho. =]

shadowstewie said:
I've been using CM9 Kang by winner for a while now. I love it. Was thinking of switching over to AOKP M4 just to see if its better.
I'm using Franco's Kernel and I heard M4 is better than Stock AOKP.
Let me know your thoughts!
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I will chime in here because I was in the same boat. However, I was using AOKP M4 w/ franco's kernel first. I read several posts/threads that stated how CM9 was smoother and faster than AOKP because of less features built-in.
I just flashed CM9 today w/ franco's kernel and I can definitely tell a difference - CM9 is the winner here. It only makes sense from the big picture. The CM guys know their poop - they've been developing ROMs far longer than any of these other guys.

My first rom that i flashed was winners CM9 Kang. Was very smooth. My only gripe was there were no mods for it. I switched over to AOKP and never looked back. Equally just as fast with tons of mods.
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You can always use Boot Manager as well to compare different roms. Works nicely for me, sometimes has issues with certain roms.

nbeebe24 said:
To answer your question, aokp is rich with features for customization of almost every aspect of the from. As of now cyanogenmod is playing catch up. But I know it'll be amazing in a short time. Most people use aokp because it requires less work to add/subtract what you do or don't want.
CM has a great reputation, but right now its nearly stock. I am waiting to see what they come out with then I'll probably run it (as I have on my previous nexus'). It all comes down to what you're looking for. If you want features galore, aokp is the right choice. Just run it until CM9 gets rolling
Some of you really need to get off your high horse. Sarcastic and rude comments are totally unnecessary. What if your teachers in kindergarten and beyond told you to stop asking stupid questions? This is a place for learning, sharing, and growing not for ridiculing.
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Here here, well said.
I find myself switching back and forward between yhese two roms there both really good so i aint fonna say witch i think is best.
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My opinion is that, I will keep use AOKP M4 and not consider CM9 until there comes the stable version of CM9. Just for stability.

kalaexj said:
My opinion is that, I will keep use AOKP M4 and not consider CM9 until there comes the stable version of CM9. Just for stability.
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CM9 has been incredibly stable since the "experimental" builds. CM tends to have a different definition of "stable".

adrynalyne said:
This isn't rocket science. You try both and make an informed decision. Everyone values things differently. Others cannot make an informed decision for you.
Call it sarcastic or rude, if you want. I call it thinking for yourself, because nobody has unbiased or objective rom reviews. Its all fanboish nonsense.
Apple thrives off of those who don't want to make a decision themselves, by the way.
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Agreed, its not rocket science, but I just think people throughout these threads have been answering in unnecessarily rude ways. Just tell him the CM9 is minimal right now and AOKP has a lot of features. There's car references and all kinds of unneeded things going on in here
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I just deleted over half the posts in this thread.......
It's simple. If you don't want to help or have anything helpful to say, back out of the thread and move on. I will only say this once.

mudferret said:
CM9 has been incredibly stable since the "experimental" builds. CM tends to have a different definition of "stable".
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But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.

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But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.
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the cm9 nightlies (experimental) are very very stable and good for daily use but,
like said in here before, they lack quite some of the extra features
if you're looking for rom's with more options try AOKP, Gummynex, Codename Android or any other rom you can find on xda ... they are all good roms which give you plenty of options.
it's all just a matter of personal taste in the end i guess
good luck and enjoy!

kalaexj said:
But for the newbie who first time to hack my GN, I don't like the the word like 'Nightly' or 'Experiemental' in the version name. If there has some version of CM9 that's truly stable or stable enough, I think it should publish it as 'Milestone' or 'Stable'. This kinds of word are the only keyword for the people unfamiliar with CM9 to make decision to use or not, doesn't it? If so, I think I will believe the team and give a try if there's a stable version. Everybody know CM series have good reputation.
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I hear what you're saying; and I agree the nomenclature can strike fear into newbies.
Luckily with the GN there are a lot of good ROMs available; more quality options to choose from compared to other devices.

I'll find Apex rom very fast and very stable, with leankernel. He's only problem is that it's not update for a while, that could indicate an abandon from the dev. Instead, roman, from AOKP, is very dedicated and his rom growing fast and constantly

Edit: Meh, I'll just try them all!

Which rom to chose?

I wanted to ask you guys which roms are you using and why
back when I had SGS2 on AT&T (international) version I used to change roms a lot because some looked nice and i remember when first trying ICS on SGS2. Anyway I am running AOKP B29 battery life is really awesome on that one but I get bored of it -_-
I wanted to try MIUI and I did try but it's really slow.. I heard MIUI is popular with theming nd stuff
any recommendations?

Stock.
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wingnut76 said:
Stock.
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Well what is the benefit of stock.. no extra mods at all...
AOKP seems to bring some features but I am all about the looks

go back to AOKP B29 until MIUI releases a FULLY FUNCTIONAL stable daily driver.
then use ADW EX to customize ur screen how ever u like.

SoCalSpecialist said:
go back to AOKP B29 until MIUI releases a FULLY FUNCTIONAL stable daily driver.
then use ADW EX to customize ur screen how ever u like.
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+1 for AOKP... not a huge fan of MIUI at all.
And no, don't use ADW EX. Apex Launcher on the market is free and is optimized for ICS.
ADW EX hasn't been updated in months. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hbmRkb2VzLmxhdW5jaGVyIl0.

aokp is probabely the most feature rich and popular and usually has new features in each build that other roms add to their next builds. It's pretty stable (especially in milestone builds) and works well. Speed is same as stock in my experience. frequent updates which is nice.
gummy has same features more or less in a different package and also comes out with unique features from time to time. Pretty similiar to aokp if you ask me.
Liquidsmooth is 90% aokp but it feels a little faster due to some tweaks. It's much more buggy though imo. I've heard a lot of people with wifi, gps and nfc problems. It also lacks a little polish. I'd wait this one out.
CNA (codenameandroid) doesn't have any new features because it's 95% kang of aokp and gummy. It's probabely the most feature packed. It is surprisingly stable though: probably because obvious bugs in aokp and gummy's new features are resolved before they are released with cna. It doesn't get a lot of respect in the community due to kanging but if you don't care about xda drama, it's just as fine.
BAMF is a little different from aokp and gummy. It doesn't share a lot of code with them and has it's own toggles and settings which are kinda nicer. It lacks a lot of aokp/gummy features but has most of the important ones. It also has some unique stuff baked in. It's as stable as gummy and aokp milestones but the updates are much less frequent. bamf devs prefer to do a lot of testing behind close doors before release. If you are a crackflasher, stay away. Speed is ok.
CM9 Nightlies are WIP. It has very few features and a lot of place holders. Stay away unless you really like the cutting edge.
MIUI is nowhere near fully function. It's fine to have a little fun with from time to time but definitely not a daily driver. Wait at least 2-3 weeks for this one.
My personal choice: Black ICE, which is basically aokp with a dark theme. you can find it at rootzwiki.
that's pretty much all the popular gsm roms. I don't know about lte specific roms.

My vote goes for Axi0m Patient Zero

I suggest using the search function or perhaps waste time just like everyone else and try different roms, kernels and mods. im sure there are numerous threads that start out like this, Hi! What ROM/Kernel would you suggest!?
Sheesh....some ppl are becoming lazy in READING and SCROLLING thru other threads that have already been answered and solved. I guarantee another thread SIMILAR to this will pop up sometime soon.
Google search and XDA search is ur best friend. Learn to use it. Since you have used MIUI b4, im sure its not that difficult to try the other roms out there. :banghead:
Goodluck?

W3BSurfer said:
I suggest using the search function or perhaps waste time just like everyone else and try different roms, kernels and mods. im sure there are numerous threads that start out like this, Hi! What ROM/Kernel would you suggest!?
Sheesh....some ppl are becoming lazy in READING and SCROLLING thru other threads that have already been answered and solved. I guarantee another thread SIMILAR to this will pop up sometime soon.
Google search and XDA search is ur best friend. Learn to use it. Since you have used MIUI b4, im sure its not that difficult to try the other roms out there. :banghead:
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Actually I did search a little...
I check XDA/Rootz Wiki everyday.
Just wanted opinion from few people on a est rom. I check everyday for AOKP updates and other roms on XDA.

wingnut76 said:
Stock.
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I use stock 4.04 too. But I'm not a fan of flashing a different ROM everyday so may be that's why I love stock.

Im using AOKP latest version now - is great as keeps all the looks of stock but with the extras that stock should have had to start with.
Looking forward to a "daily driver" version of MIUI is out - so much better for theming.

Most stable original Rom? (CM10 vs AOKP vs CNA vs Slim vs other?)

I am wondering what the most stable and bug free original rom is for our phones. Any input?

Most sufficiently well developed ROMs will be fairly stable, and attempting to make distinctions will probably end up in hair-splitting territory. The phone hardware itself can also be a factor you could always give them all a try and see what works best for you and your phone.

smelenchuk said:
Most sufficiently well developed ROMs will be fairly stable, and attempting to make distinctions will probably end up in hair-splitting territory. The phone hardware itself can also be a factor you could always give them all a try and see what works best for you and your phone.
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Ok then I am asking what the most sufficiently well-developed roms are. Which one has the least number of bugs.
If its the phone hardware, then the rom technically does not have bugs, which I am not getting into.
I would rather not have to keep making those backups and restores of my things when I am sure people have already tried and can recommend something.
Thanks anyway though.

Aokp with ktoonz kernel!
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Vs threads are always closed pretty fast for good reasons. No one can tell you which ROM would work best for you or your device. Taking into consideration that all devices are not created equally and can fluctuate between stability. Some might have bugs on certain ROMs that others don't because of their devices. So you really need to try them out for yourself to come to your own conclusion for which one works the best or has less bugs for your respective device.

task650 said:
Vs threads are always closed pretty fast for good reasons. No one can tell you which ROM would work best for you or your device. Taking into consideration that all devices are not created equally and can fluctuate between stability. Some might have bugs on certain ROMs that others don't because of their devices. So you really need to try them out for yourself to come to your own conclusion for which one works the best or has less bugs for your respective device.
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An actual BUG in a rom would be widespread for more than one device though. And the devs of the roms generally know about the ACTUAL bugs already.
I know very well that each device differs, but each rom is not the same. Thus Some will have more bugs than others.
I think this question is very valid.
I am asking what people have found to be the most bug-free for them. Not sure why that would validate a close of this topic. I even posted in the correct section so its not like I am a hindrance anywhere else or to anyone.
I am not asking which rom will work the best for my device. I want to know other peoples opinion on which roms have been the most bug free on THEIR device. Its a good reference point.
And thanks for the reply bigdog!

Slim rom 2.5 is easily best.
I am not a fan of aokp and ktoonsez kernel combo
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Wond3r said:
I am wondering what the most stable and bug free original rom is for our phones. Any input?
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m using black jelly 0.7 right now its stable for me so far......

My personal favorite original rom is AOKP. You get a pink unicorn with rainbow hair. And that's just the boot ani. On my device its smoking fast. Run TW during the week. Weekends, I run tasks rom. If I had to guess cm10 and miui and AOKP run about the same. All built from source. Right?
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Nexus Roms

Hiya everyone,
So I just became a Galaxy Nexus owner as of yesterday, and wondering what support is out there for this phone dev side as well whats everyones fav rom? I'm quite happy with the stock AOSP 4.2.1, however I do miss some customization of roms like from CM and AOKP when I was a S2/One X owner.
Wondering if its really worth that much of a change though however to go custom? I used to build on the S2 side of things so if there seems to be a strong community on the Nexus side maybe I'll reboot the old linux box.

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Hiya everyone,
So I just became a Galaxy Nexus owner as of yesterday, and wondering what support is out there for this phone dev side as well whats everyones fav rom? I'm quite happy with the stock AOSP 4.2.1, however I do miss some customization of roms like from CM and AOKP when I was a S2/One X owner.
Wondering if its really worth that much of a change though however to go custom? I used to build on the S2 side of things so if there seems to be a strong community on the Nexus side maybe I'll reboot the old linux box.
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You couldn't just look in the development section? And there is no favorite rom for everyone. I use slim but everyone has their own preference. No offense but I'd have expected a Dev to know better.

Try Xylon, custom toggle, custom navbar, custom status bar, custom kernel, custom .... Blablabla
A powerful mix of many CM, AOKP improvements and mainly lag and bug free
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063_XOBX said:
You couldn't just look in the development section? And there is no favorite rom for everyone. I use slim but everyone has their own preference. No offense but I'd have expected a Dev to know better.
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I did look through the dev section, hence why I'm asking what people run. I don't feel like sitting at my computer all day downloading and flashing roms. I'm really looking for a decent rom thats up to date with AOSP at 4.2.1
No offense but I like to get involvement from people around me and get to know a new community a little better.

Do try Black Bean AOKP. I found this one a very complete and stable ROM in my starting days with Nexus.

confyzone said:
I did look through the dev section, hence why I'm asking what people run. I don't feel like sitting at my computer all day downloading and flashing roms. I'm really looking for a decent rom thats up to date with AOSP at 4.2.1
No offense but I like to get involvement from people around me and get to know a new community a little better.
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Hmmm, why don't you try building as you used to do on your S II and customize your ROM the way you wish? Actually this is what I settled on after trying so many ROMs on my S II and I am following the same way with my GNex. I feel great and satisfied when I am running my own ROM and I may even bear some bugs in it just because it is mine
This is the only experience I can help you with because this is the only ROM I use

try taking a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802692 it has rom comparisons in terms of features in their google doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AggpxyzXBu--dEZMWnZTUWtMVXBpdHNteW5zTXpRVmc#gid=1

rptw said:
try taking a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802692 it has rom comparisons in terms of features in their google doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AggpxyzXBu--dEZMWnZTUWtMVXBpdHNteW5zTXpRVmc#gid=1
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thanks for that spreadsheet link, really informative.
Hmmm, why don't you try building as you used to do on your S II and customize your ROM the way you wish? Actually this is what I settled on after trying so many ROMs on my S II and I am following the same way with my GNex. I feel great and satisfied when I am running my own ROM and I may even bear some bugs in it just because it is mine
This is the only experience I can help you with because this is the only ROM I use
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I may just have to do this, as I'm not looking to go down to 4.1.2, and the only 4.2.1 roms I've tried thus far actually haven't gone past the bootscreen logo oddly enough.

rasbean jelly is a wonderful aosp based rom, its always updated to be up to date with the latest aosp, asap. speaking of, it was updated minutes ago http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=maguro

I am using paranoid android and it has quit some customizations
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There's people here who will help you run your own.
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Codename Android here. It's Jb 4.1 and is rock solid for me. Love the stock feel and plenty of customizations. I've tried paranoid android and bugless beast, but always come back to CNA.
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For me 4.2 is a total dissapointment,i'm still running 4.1.2 on CNA 3.8.0,the best i found out there. Tried all the 4.2 roms and all of them had that lockscreen delay that was driving me nuts so I decided remaining on 4.1.2 for a while. Also tried all the 4.1 roms but the best that fits my wishes is CNA with a stock look and tons of customization,along with faux' latest kernel, 23m-sr

Paranoidandroid hands down, no rom on this site is comparable when it comes to speed, smoothness, customizations and battery life all rolled into one, others may have one of those better but none have the combination and NONE have the amount of options.
What I am using currently can be found in my signature below.

If you're looking for a stock ROM that's merely been rooted and deodexed, bigxie's ROMs are solid and popular.
If you want a lean, clean, fast ROM with only the most useful modifications, it would be hard to beat Rascarlo's ROMs.
If you want ROMs with mods galore, some of the most popular ones are CyanogenMod, CodenameAndroid, and ParanoidAndroid. But there are plenty of others with dedicated followers.

I'm using Mmuzzy's AOSP 4.2.1 with kmameguy's MODs. I have the nice CM circle percent battery and other MODs, with the stability of 4.2.1 (as stable as it gets ATM) and probably 15-20 hours on battery. I don't think there are a lot of customizations on any 4.2 ROMs yet, as they're dealing mostly with stability issues. I've tried Factory, Vanir's beta, Xylon, and others... none have been super impressive to leave Mmuzzy's...

confyzone said:
I did look through the dev section, hence why I'm asking what people run. I don't feel like sitting at my computer all day downloading and flashing roms. I'm really looking for a decent rom thats up to date with AOSP at 4.2.1
No offense but I like to get involvement from people around me and get to know a new community a little better.
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I have tried few of the 4.2.1 roms.... But went back to slim 4.1.2 awaiting their update to 4.2.1.
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I'm running xylon11 now enjoying it so far might try to do a new ROM soon I just had re downloading everything
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