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AT&T 3G data network on the T-Mobile G2

Hello everyone, this is my first thread so please be gentle!
I currently have a G1, and hope to put it to rest very soon, and get the new G2!
(staying true to the "G")
I use an AT&T sim card on my current G1.
I have been lurking (for quite some time now) on these forums trying to find an answer to using the AT&T Sim Card on the G2. I have yet to find my answer through searching.
The capabilities I'm looking for to use on a G2 with an AT&T sim card include:
at least 3G network data speeds
normal use of calling
(I live in the US, and I don't know if that allows me to have 3G instead of EDGE)
Some things I have found:
In one other forum it said the AT&T would work on the G2, however it would only work on the EDGE network. (which I believe is 2G? please clarify if you can)
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TMO's 3G network runs on the 1700Mhz spectrum.
AT&T's 3G network runs on the 850 and 1900Mhz spectrum.
The G2 is incapable of operating on AT&T's 3G network but will work just fine on the EDGE network.
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the "[Guide] Subsidy Unlock, SuperCID, and Radio S-OFF" presents a sim unlock, so would that mean I could use the 3G data networks on AT&T? and have local calling? or is that something else?
Thanks in advance!

The Subsidy Unlock would allow the use of the AT&T sim card. I'm quite sure you wouldn't get the 3G+ speeds. Edge only, just like the G1.

ALB24 said:
T-Mobile HTC G2. rage+gfree worked great. Tested on both TMO & AT&T Networks and everything worked with no problems. Went from getting no radio signal due to Code unlock method, to getting any network I choose.
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That was from someone in the sim unlock thread. Not sure if any network chosen means 2g/3g but I would think 3g would be supported.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

It isn't just your phone, I don't think any phones ever come out with the correct bands for ATT and Tmobile...Even the N1 which is supposed to be a world phone was only EDGE on ATT

The T-Mobile G2 will not work with 3G on AT&T (as you stated in the original post, the 3G or UMTS bands are different). It will instead use the regular GSM bands for 2G data.
If you want a Desire Z that works on AT&T's 3G, you have to get the NAM version offered by Bell Canada (check out the Desire Z forums). Once unlocked, it'll work fine on AT&T's 3G network.

Durkbeef said:
It isn't just your phone, I don't think any phones ever come out with the correct bands for ATT and Tmobile...Even the N1 which is supposed to be a world phone was only EDGE on ATT
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Actually, Nokia's latest smartphones are pentaband - they can use 3G on AT&T, T-Mobile, and the European networks. This includes the C7, N8, and upcoming E7.
I have the N8 right now and have used it on both AT&T and T-Mobile with 3G.

ianmcquinn said:
The T-Mobile G2 will not work with 3G on AT&T (as you stated in the original post, the 3G or UMTS bands are different). It will instead use the regular GSM bands for 2G data.
If you want a Desire Z that works on AT&T's 3G, you have to get the NAM version offered by Bell Canada (check out the Desire Z forums). Once unlocked, it'll work fine on AT&T's 3G network.
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Ah this was extremely helpful!
Thank you all for the help as well.

This is where I got my Desire Z: http://negrielectronics.com/htc-desire-z-850-1900-3g-unlocked.html
I didn't believe it and was scared that I'd open the box and see the wrong bands but sure enough, it works. Brandon from pocketnow.com did a review on it as well with that specific device.
Let me know if you need/want screenshots for proof

slyydrr said:
This is where I got my Desire Z:
I didn't believe it and was scared that I'd open the box and see the wrong bands but sure enough, it works. Brandon from pocketnow.com did a review on it as well with that specific device.
Let me know if you need/want screenshots for proof
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Ah proof/screenshots for AT&T 3G working on the HTC Desire Z? Sure that would be great! Thanks for your time!
I'm probably going to go for this phone then!

Here are a couple for you! Let me know if you want more. I tried taking pictures with another phone (I still have my N1) but it wasn't very clear.
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Check the baseband in my screenshot against the basebands in the dev section if you'd like. They should match up

Ah! Beautiful!!
Thank you so much I think that's proof enough! haha.
I'll definitely be getting this phone!
I searched forever for an answer, and this surely is the answer.
Finally will be putting my G1 to rest haha

You betcha! For what it's worth, this is how I found out.
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-desire-z-with-att-3g-software-review-video
Also, try these coupon codes! $35 off orders over $400: sb35offjkh $35 off desire phones over $500: desire0430

I have a NAM Unbranded/Unlocked version that I am using on AT&T as well. I purchased mine on Ebay, it was a little cheaper than buying it through Negri (which also didn't have any when I purchased mine)
Definitely works on 3G AND can be used with a 'dumb-phone' data plan ($10/month unlimited) =D

gbarayah said:
I have a NAM Unbranded/Unlocked version that I am using on AT&T as well. I purchased mine on Ebay, it was a little cheaper than buying it through Negri (which also didn't have any when I purchased mine)
Definitely works on 3G AND can be used with a 'dumb-phone' data plan ($10/month unlimited) =D
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How do you get the $10/mo data plan? I don't have that option!

Yeah I know this is going a little off topic (sorry mods)
but I think he's talking about individual unlimited data plan for "basic" phones?
I kept trying to pester AT&T about it.
So is it true you don't need the DataPro plan in order to acheive 3G data networks with smartphones?
And you can use the "basic" unlimited data plan for cheaper for the same 3G networks?
The AT&T reps kept saying otherwise.
Thanks again all for the replies!

slyydrr said:
How do you get the $10/mo data plan? I don't have that option!
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I have a family plan with an Iphone line (sister). My phone (originally a BB when contract signed) and 2 Dumbphones (parents)
What I did was, take my SIM card, and put it into one of the dumbphones. Went into ATT and had them add unlimited Data to that line at the $10 option. (And cancel the BB services since I wasn't using the phone anymore - told them I sold it on CL) Went home and returned the SIM into my BB and I was all set to go with unlimited Data. The only thing that didn't work with the BB was the push Email services...
If you go to your online account with ATT it will show you an image of the device you are using with service and although it showed my device as a BB at the time, (after returning the SIM to the BB) the $10 plan continued to work without any hitches.
Now that I have a phone that is unbranded with an IMEI # that ATT doesn't recognize, they don't have an image for my phone, so they have no way to detect that I am using a smartphone.
I have used the $10 plan with many devices: BB, Touch Pro, Nokia E71, etc and have never had any problems.
htcdreamer said:
Yeah I know this is going a little off topic (sorry mods)
but I think he's talking about individual unlimited data plan for "basic" phones?
I kept trying to pester AT&T about it.
So is it true you don't need the DataPro plan in order to acheive 3G data networks with smartphones?
And you can use the "basic" unlimited data plan for cheaper for the same 3G networks?
The AT&T reps kept saying otherwise.
Thanks again all for the replies!
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Yes that is the plan that I am referring to and yes the reps are full of crap. ATT wants to charge you more for having a 'smartphone' even though you use the exact same data, frequencies, and service as other users. There are many ways around this, but going into an AT&T store and trying to 'reason' with them is not one. I suggest the method I used with a dumbphone. Alternatively, you can do the same process online through account manager without having to deal with a live person.

Side question here. I'm thinking about giving the G2 to a friend on AT&T. The thing is that he doesn't want to pay for a data plan. Will AT&T force a data plan onto the line? Also un checking data enabled, will that stop all data over the cellular network so he doesnt get charged at all?

mayurolla said:
Side question here. I'm thinking about giving the G2 to a friend on AT&T. The thing is that he doesn't want to pay for a data plan. Will AT&T force a data plan onto the line? Also un checking data enabled, will that stop all data over the cellular network so he doesnt get charged at all?
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I don't think they can force a data plan as the phone is not being subsidized by ATT because of a contract.
In theory disabling data will stop all data but in reality he will probably still use a bit of it. Search the forums as I remember another user having the issue of zero data use.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

I finally did the whole unlock, super CID thing using gfree and adb.
Just want to make that no one has found a way to get 3G speeds on the G2?
Or is EDGE my only choice? I understand the whole band thing as well.

No. From what I've gathered on the g2 being on at&t, its impossible as the radio hardware is different and will not pick up the 3g bands. Flashing a different radio to match up the bands won't work, either (it will possibly brick your phone, actually.)
Go with the NAM Desire Z from bell canada. Its your best bet.
Sent from my HTC Vision running GingerVillain 1.4

Switching to T-Mobile from AT&T, some questions

I have some questions regarding my process of switching over and also some basic questions:
I am receiving my T-mob sim card tomorrow
I have backed up my apps only via Titanium Backup. Do i need to back up system files too or will apps only back up suffice?
Will the new sim card automatically update all APNs or do I have to manually change it to get LTE?
Will I be receiving Android & G3 software updates automatically still?
If there are cool T-mobile apps, how will i get them on my phone?
Is it safe to delete everything AT&T related off of my phone?
Thanks in advance, I was happy to find that after unlock, my AT&T variant will work with T-mobile.

Im affraid LTE wont work for you unless you have an unlocked phone. Originally factory unlocked. Their LTE bands are different, so you will be stuck to "3G". I know, it sucks.
If it is not a carrier locked phone, then just reboot it with the sim on and it shoudl pick up the right LTE config. TiBu restore/backup wont be needed it if you are using the same phone. ATT apps, some of them wont work. Dont have to install any Tmo apps, i would only do "Visual Voicemail.

chillsen said:
I have some questions regarding my process of switching over and also some basic questions:
I am receiving my T-mob sim card tomorrow
I have backed up my apps only via Titanium Backup. Do i need to back up system files too or will apps only back up suffice?
Will the new sim card automatically update all APNs or do I have to manually change it to get LTE?
Will I be receiving Android & G3 software updates automatically still?
If there are cool T-mobile apps, how will i get them on my phone?
Is it safe to delete everything AT&T related off of my phone?
Thanks in advance, I was happy to find that after unlock, my AT&T variant will work with T-mobile.
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Not sure why you would want the tmob bloat-ware. It should be installable through the playstore though. AT&T stuff can be frozen/deleted. I believe it was mentioned before that deleting it doesn't actually free up any space so it doesn't matter. To my understanding you should be able to throw in the sim card and it should work.
I am not sure what you are asking about backing up the apps. Swapping the simcard shouldn't require any app back ups.

remydlc said:
Im affraid LTE wont work for you unless you have an unlocked phone. Originally factory unlocked. Their LTE bands are different, so you will be stuck to "3G". I know, it sucks.
If it is not a carrier locked phone, then just reboot it with the sim on and it shoudl pick up the right LTE config. TiBu restore/backup wont be needed it if you are using the same phone. ATT apps, some of them wont work. Dont have to install any Tmo apps, i would only do "Visual Voicemail.
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Thanks so much. Yes there is someone on ebay unlocking phones for less than 2 dollars, amazing deal compared to websites that charge you 50! So I got it carrier unlocked. and i don't know why i backed it up, you're right!
Lastly do you know anything about getting software updates after I join T-Mobile?

chillsen said:
Thanks so much. Yes there is someone on ebay unlocking phones for less than 2 dollars, amazing deal compared to websites that charge you 50! So I got it carrier unlocked. and i don't know why i backed it up, you're right!
Lastly do you know anything about getting software updates after I join T-Mobile?
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I wouldn't do any carrier updates if the phone is the att variant.

I don't know if I trust a 2 dollar sim unlock off eBay, especially an att phone. Att are d!cks about unlocking their phones. Juat fyi.

Swizzle82 said:
I don't know if I trust a 2 dollar sim unlock off eBay, especially an att phone. Att are d!cks about unlocking their phones. Juat fyi.
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It worked. They email you the unlock code within minutes and you unlock it yourself. It was very simple

I would avoid updates. OTA updates are device specific. Being on the carrier now does not change your device.

chillsen said:
Thanks so much. Yes there is someone on ebay unlocking phones for less than 2 dollars, amazing deal compared to websites that charge you 50! So I got it carrier unlocked. and i don't know why i backed it up, you're right!
Lastly do you know anything about getting software updates after I join T-Mobile?
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im not sure if ATT will push you their updates. If they do, and you are not rooted, you can update it. If you are rooted, you need to install ROMs that are on the AT&T forum, if you can ever do that. I knwo some of them have a locked bootloader. Keep thinking of it as a ATT phone even if you are on another network. Good thing though is you can now sell it for higher value should you want to switch to a tmo phone. I'd recommend that since you will get full LTE.

remydlc said:
im not sure if ATT will push you their updates. If they do, and you are not rooted, you can update it. If you are rooted, you need to install ROMs that are on the AT&T forum, if you can ever do that. I knwo some of them have a locked bootloader. Keep thinking of it as a ATT phone even if you are on another network. Good thing though is you can now sell it for higher value should you want to switch to a tmo phone. I'd recommend that since you will get full LTE.
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This is the best answer. Thank you very much.
I wonder if there is any confirmation that I will continue getting updates from AT&T. If so, I guess I'll have to unroot which sucks since I will lose my precious G3 Tweakbox. Would manually inputting APN not unlock full LTE speed? Not familiar with APN other than for correcting text messaging app problems.

remydlc said:
Im affraid LTE wont work for you unless you have an unlocked phone. Originally factory unlocked. Their LTE bands are different, so you will be stuck to "3G". I know, it sucks.
If it is not a carrier locked phone, then just reboot it with the sim on and it shoudl pick up the right LTE config. TiBu restore/backup wont be needed it if you are using the same phone. ATT apps, some of them wont work. Dont have to install any Tmo apps, i would only do "Visual Voicemail.
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If he isn't unlocked he won't get anything 3g or other wise. If he is unlocked ( if at&t won't unlock it imei-unlocked costs 6 bucks) he will get 4g/lte.

chillsen said:
This is the best answer. Thank you very much.
I wonder if there is any confirmation that I will continue getting updates from AT&T. If so, I guess I'll have to unroot which sucks since I will lose my precious G3 Tweakbox. Would manually inputting APN not unlock full LTE speed? Not familiar with APN other than for correcting text messaging app problems.
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No. It is locked at the hardware level. They are talking that one day they will be able to, but i dont think anytime soon. IMO, trade yoru phone, you will only suffer whenever you are outside and the internet loads slow. or do speed test and see if you are in a area where both LTE bands are the same. who knows, might be good.

Again if he unlocks it he will get LTE just fine. I have both variants d850 and d851 and the d850 unlocked works just fine on T-Mobile
And the poster above me is correct that you wont receive os updates from at&T while a tmobile sim is in it

@bkeaver is right, I just got the SIM card delivered and I updated the data/text APN from:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090#android
and I am in DC and getting great LTE speeds. First time unlocking a locked phone (less than $2 from an ebay guy, instead of $20-50 from those unlocking websites), and switching carriers. It was a great experience to learn from.
LTE T-Mobile speed from unlocked AT&T G3 variant:
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Will I continue to get updates from AT&T for LG and Android software updates? OR will i start getting notifications from T-mobile bc I just joined their carrier?

chillsen said:
@bkeaver is right, I just got the SIM card delivered and I updated the data/text APN from:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090#android
and I am in DC and getting great LTE speeds. First time unlocking a locked phone (less than $2 from an ebay guy, instead of $20-50 from those unlocking websites), and switching carriers. It was a great experience to learn from.
LTE T-Mobile speed from unlocked AT&T G3 variant:
Last question, maybe @bkeaver can help me:
Will I continue to get updates from AT&T for LG and Android software updates? OR will i start getting notifications from T-mobile bc I just joined their carrier?
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No, you will not receive any AT&T update having T-Mobile APN and Simcard.

Aaanadie is correct. Your phone isnt on AT&T anymore so it will not receive the updates. Now what you might be able to do is grab the ota from someone and load it that way manually but it wont otherwise be able to on its own
Likewise with the T-Mobile updates. Their network wont recognize your device as a valid device to push updates to and i really would not advise you to try to load those updates manually. Only updates made for your device should only be loaded on your device. Make sense?

I got mine unlocked via the $2 eBay auction. Nothing to worry about, got code almost instantly.

bkeaver said:
Aaanadie is correct. Your phone isnt on AT&T anymore so it will not receive the updates. Now what you might be able to do is grab the ota from someone and load it that way manually but it wont otherwise be able to on its own
Likewise with the T-Mobile updates. Their network wont recognize your device as a valid device to push updates to and i really would not advise you to try to load those updates manually. Only updates made for your device should only be loaded on your device. Make sense?
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perfect. basically flash the OTAs after someone uploads them for AT&T since mine is an AT&T variant... or unlock bootloader and flash some roms!:good:

remydlc said:
Im affraid LTE wont work for you unless you have an unlocked phone. Originally factory unlocked. Their LTE bands are different, so you will be stuck to "3G". I know, it sucks.
If it is not a carrier locked phone, then just reboot it with the sim on and it shoudl pick up the right LTE config. TiBu restore/backup wont be needed it if you are using the same phone. ATT apps, some of them wont work. Dont have to install any Tmo apps, i would only do "Visual Voicemail.
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That's incorrect, I ran an At&t S3 on tmo and had really fast lte. As long as you have the phone sim unlocked and the correct lte apn for tmo, you'll be fine.

Simultaneous Voice and Data?

Received my note 4 yesterday, noticed today while I was on a call that I could not connect to LTE data simultaneously as I was used to doing on my note 3. This led me to inquire why this was the case, after searching the web I found that to the best of my understanding that the new sprint phones are all coming with one chip to access a cell signal instead of two like my note 3. If I've misspoke about the reason my apologies but I believe thats what I understood. Now I'm wandering if I was to use google voice to make calls could I then access data as well? This leads to another question, my understanding is that Sprint customers can allow google voice to use there current mobile number as there google voice number. If anyone has done this I would like to know if there are concerns to have and can you opt out if you no longer want to use the service? Any suggestions are appreciated.

Wow...this sucks! I just tested mine and i cant use data while making a fcuking call. Wtf sprint

danielddube said:
Wow...this sucks! I just tested mine and i cant use data while making a fcuking call. Wtf sprint
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Like I said, I've never used Google voice for phone calls but that may be an option I'm just concerned about giving my phone number to google if I want to get it back.

todds67 said:
Like I said, I've never used Google voice for phone calls but that may be an option I'm just concerned about giving my phone number to google if I want to get it back.
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you can always drop Google Voice from your number

Some are using hangouts. You can call and use WiFi for data if available, or you can do both call & data on WiFi.
For 95% its not an issue and Sprint is going VoIP in the near future and will be able to do both then.
The trade-off is better battery life with one antenna compared to having two.

Itchiee said:
Some are using hangouts. You can call and use WiFi for data if available, or you can do both call & data on WiFi.
For 95% its not an issue and Sprint is going VoIP in the near future and will be able to do both then.
The trade-off is better battery life with one antenna compared to having two.
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So you can call out without wifi and use data, even with the Hangouts dialer?
Sent from my SGNote 3

So when I'm on 4g I won't be able to call someone using phone? Wtf, I can do that on my note 2...how the hell is this progress?

This is 100% Unsat!!!
I can't believe this has happened. I too need to know if this can be fixed by using Google Voice. You can keep your own number without giving it to GV, but this is completely a backward proposition.

U can only if you are on wifi or 4g while making call. Verizon and Sprint can not do data while on calls unless u are on 4g at the time or WiFi. Its the limitation of having CDMA devices. Att and tmobile doesnt have that issue

Hangouts essentially uses VoIP. Of course it will work. You're not actually making a cellular call with it.
All Sprint Spark LTE phones are incapable of using voice&data at the same time.

freeza said:
Hangouts essentially uses VoIP. Of course it will work. You're not actually making a cellular call with it.
All Sprint Spark LTE phones are incapable of using voice&data at the same time.
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So the note 4 is a spark phone but the note 2 isn't?

New technology.. smh
I have the same problem with my LG G3. Cant surf the net while making calls. Its really a disappointment. Somehow Sprint needs to find a way to be able to have Spark and use data at the same dang time. My friend has the Note 4 as well and told me she could talk and use the net but I think she BS-n.

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So the note 4 is a spark phone but the note 2 isn't?
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That's correct.
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sosmooth757 said:
I have the same problem with my LG G3. Cant surf the net while making calls. Its really a disappointment. Somehow Sprint needs to find a way to be able to have Spark and use data at the same dang time. My friend has the Note 4 as well and told me she could talk and use the net but I think she BS-n.
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She's lying ?
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No Simo Voice/Data
With Sprink Spark, You can no longer have simo talk/text. It's a single signal. Instead of CDMA / GSM on LTE Devices. It is only allowing one. Now that isnt due to the phone. It's the towers and the tech they are using. I heard they are in the works to update that and there will eventually be a fix.
I work for Sprint.

neotremer said:
With Sprink Spark, You can no longer have simo talk/text. It's a single signal. Instead of CDMA / GSM on LTE Devices. It is only allowing one. Now that isnt due to the phone. It's the towers and the tech they are using. I heard they are in the works to update that and there will eventually be a fix.
I work for Sprint.
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I think you meant "...simo talk/data"...

Are you telling me a bunch of sprint user's didn't know that spark phone's wasn't capable of talking and surfing the web at the same time using the phone data network lmao? Seriously why don't you guy's look up info before purchasing a phone first lmao this has been known since the first spark phone which was what i think the lg g2 if I'm not mistaken but no wait it's sprint fault for taking the direction they choose to better their network and services lol.

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U can only if you are on wifi or 4g while making call. Verizon and Sprint can not do data while on calls unless u are on 4g at the time or WiFi. Its the limitation of having CDMA devices. Att and tmobile doesnt have that issue
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Most sprint phones dont have that capability, but yes the note 2, 3, and gs4 and 3 do . I have had them all and all work when on 4g and of course WIFI. It has nothing to do with the limitations of the CDMA network, its the hardware that they put in them. (as well) yes it is easier to do over GSM and they usually have that feature. though This is something that we should have been let known and also should have been worked out before putting (or lack thereof) something like taking those antennas out in play before getting the network right. Most of us cant use spark anyway! lol so now its no spark and you cant be on the phone and get 4g either, on the newest phones, G3, S5, Note 4 ETC....

neotremer said:
With Sprink Spark, You can no longer have simo talk/text. It's a single signal. Instead of CDMA / GSM on LTE Devices. It is only allowing one. Now that isnt due to the phone. It's the towers and the tech they are using. I heard they are in the works to update that and there will eventually be a fix.
I work for Sprint.
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When you say eventually... Have they actually given some type of internal horizon or if it eventually like paying off the national debt?

Blakestr said:
When you say eventually... Have they actually given some type of internal horizon or if it eventually like paying off the national debt?
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Lol nice. In for answer too
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Why is both WiFi and LTE showing in my status bar when im on a WiFi connection? Yes, I do have download booster on, but it was doing this way before I enabled that for the first time.
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Sprint Note 4 running on AT&T ???

Hi guys i have been skimming this forum for years learning to root different phones and tablets, but only as a guest.
Today i had my sprint note 4 successfully unlocked and it now runs on AT&T through straight talk.
I am getting 10 times better service signal and data wise with hspa over sprints horrible 3g service in Virginia.
Anyway i am happy with everything, but i have a question. I have cross referenced the specs between the att, tmobile, verizon and sprint variants of the note 4 and all show they have the same bands available, what are the chances that someone has gotten AT&T true 4g lte working on a sprint branded phone, is it possible and if not why?.
Thanks in advance
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If this is true. Good. Lots are speculating no data on the other variants while on the sprint note 4. So are you complete domestic unlocked or just unlocked for international. ?
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Complete domestic unlock, able to use any mvno for AT&T or TMobile, im using straight talks AT&T network personally. Here is pics of my status, i have wifi on here at home is why it says data not connected, but im getting 7.9mb/s dl on hspa consistently
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How were you able to unlock the sprint note 4?

http://idoneapps.webs.com/sprint-galaxy-global-unlock
Was recommended by another member on here, dude from this sight rooted and did the complete unlock remotely for me for 50 bucks. Cant beat it at all! Great customer service and the guy literally answered like 40 emails back and forth of questions i had before i even paid him.
Cant express how happy i am to actually be able to use my note 4 as intended. It was a paperweight with sprint service.
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And here is an updated screenshot of my status without wifi to show i am getting data
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Thanks for your kind words guys. Yes I am doing these 12 hours a day.
You get Unlocked, debranded, MSL read and WiFi Hotspot and USB Tethering enabled.
I look forward to hearing from you, and I am easy to get in contact with

idone said:
Thanks for your kind words guys. Yes I am doing these 12 hours a day.
You get Unlocked, debranded, MSL read and WiFi Hotspot and USB Tethering enabled.
I look forward to hearing from you, and I am easy to get in contact with
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So I'm unlocked with gt too. I am still needing further help or no? Thanks.
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Yes thanks.

droe2001 said:
Complete domestic unlock, able to use any mvno for AT&T or TMobile, im using straight talks AT&T network personally. Here is pics of my status, i have wifi on here at home is why it says data not connected, but im getting 7.9mb/s dl on hspa consistently View attachment 3398820View attachment 3398821
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Hspa is good enough for me . Where i live at in Chicago it's miles faster than spark on sprint

bonebeatz1234 said:
Hspa is good enough for me . Where i live at in Chicago it's miles faster than spark on sprint
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Same hear where i live we havent even gotten 4g at all, sprint doesnt have a native network and rely off a local cell provider, they have been promising me 4g since 2013. My phone was a brick until i unlocked it and moved to straught talk, couldnt be happier
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droe2001 said:
Same hear where i live we havent even gotten 4g at all, sprint doesnt have a native network and rely off a local cell provider, they have been promising me 4g since 2013. My phone was a brick until i unlocked it and moved to straught talk, couldnt be happier
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Its really 3g to be honest. They got me

bonebeatz1234 said:
Its really 3g to be honest. They got me
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Well this is att straight talk hspa on my unlocked sprint note 4. The 28mbps one was wifi. The 5mbps one was while driving the other two are stationary
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I unlocked mine with a z3x box but I am currently unable to get HSPA or 4g, only 3g with at&t gophone. Any clue as to what is different between our devices? I have the sprint variant as well.

j.brown419 said:
I unlocked mine with a z3x box but I am currently unable to get HSPA or 4g, only 3g with at&t gophone. Any clue as to what is different between our devices? I have the sprint variant as well.
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Try the nv item edit ie use nv calculator, qpst/qxdm, enable extra gsm/umts/lte bands. Then set your apn up with LTE or unspecified as bearer

supreme83 said:
Try the nv item edit ie use nv calculator, qpst/qxdm, enable extra gsm/umts/lte bands. Then set your apn up with LTE or unspecified as bearer
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My phone wont allow me to edit nv with qpst/qdxm, it fails like 16% through.

j.brown419 said:
My phone wont allow me to edit nv with qpst/qdxm, it fails like 16% through.
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there may be something wrong with your modem. I would suggest resetting modem changes and provisioning with a reset + ##786# + ##72786#, etc and put everything back to stock and start over. ..all just a suggestion as I am fairly sure that is the best you'll get out of the Note 4 (N910P)
you may want to go to frequencycheck and make sure the bands your attempting are even a possibility ...https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...n920p-galaxy-note-5-td-lte-32gb-samsung-noble

idone said:
Thanks for your kind words guys. Yes I am doing these 12 hours a day.
You get Unlocked, debranded, MSL read and WiFi Hotspot and USB Tethering enabled.
I look forward to hearing from you, and I am easy to get in contact with
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BRO WTF i used your app and it uninstalled my root access and could not access the superuser menu built into my phone. I was forced to restore an earlier backup and lost mad amounts of data

j.brown419 said:
I unlocked mine with a z3x box but I am currently unable to get HSPA or 4g, only 3g with at&t gophone. Any clue as to what is different between our devices? I have the sprint variant as well.
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May be your sim card. Is it a 4g sim?
Also make sure your apn is correct. Check this: https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KB424489

I am getting true 4G LTE through straight talk on my Sprint note edge. I used idoneapps to unlock it. Enabled ehrpd, enabled lte, and set 1x to hybrid. After restart I went to apn settings and selected automatic and used the straight talk apn that my lte Sim card came with. I am using a Sim card I got from a zte straight talk phone, not the Sim card packpack.

General Carrier Services 89.0..._20220118

I just got an update for Carrier Services via the PlayStore. I am now running Carrier Services 89.0..._20220118
Hopefully these updates will continue to improve our Cellular services.

How does it feel? Is your network more stable? How's standby faring up?

T-Mobile is still September policy.

LLStarks said:
T-Mobile is still September policy.
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I hopped off the December 10th beta and manually installed this new carrier services 89. build. The connection seems more stable at first pass, but I also cannot seem to pick up 5G UC. I am going to take a drive and go tower hopping to see if I can jump start it with a handoff.
I think swider is talking about the app from the playstore rather than what T-Mobile shows in the sim option. Admittedly my knowledge is limited on the particulars of this stuff.

TheAnarchi1 said:
I hopped off the December 10th beta and manually installed this new carrier services 89. build. The connection seems more stable at first pass, but I also cannot seem to pick up 5G UC. I am going to take a drive and go tower hopping to see if I can jump start it with a handoff.
I think swider is talking about the app from the playstore rather than what T-Mobile shows in the sim option. Admittedly my knowledge is limited on the particulars of this stuff.
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I thought you said you were going to drive by a tower and jump off

DespairFactor said:
I thought you said you were going to drive by a tower and jump off
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Probably a lot of people here would like to do that

Y'all, ROFL! If the reception situation doesn't improve I might be tempted to hop off a tower! I did drive out far enough for a handoff and it seems to have jump started everything as I anticipated. I am keeping an eye both on my speed and mobile network standby battery usage.

I will test on my Pixel 6 Pro... I hope this is better...
Edit : It's changing nothing, I just want cry again and again... (clear cache/data of carrier services, SIMToolkit, Sim Manager, reboot my Pixel...) F*ck Google !

Just RMA it. I also had connection issues right from the start (interupted mobile connection while at full LTE reception) and will get a replacement.

stroke55 said:
Just RMA it. I also had connection issues right from the start (interupted mobile connection while at full LTE reception) and will get a replacement.
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stroke55,
Did you have the same issues with your replacement device? I have read a couple people going that route and they all seem to end up with roughly the same issues on the new device. I am still willing to believe that it's a software problem.

I got the new Carrier Services about a day or so ago. I think I might have noticed a decent increase in network and therefore better battery life. But I'll know more in a day or so. But it does look good so far.

Sure would be nice if everyone got these updates at the same time.

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Sure would be nice if everyone got these updates at the same time.
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Get it from APK mirror, that's what I did

Beta of Carrier Services seems to be returned by the way. I just applied to it just in case xD

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stroke55,
Did you have the same issues with your replacement device? I have read a couple people going that route and they all seem to end up with roughly the same issues on the new device. I am still willing to believe that it's a software problem.
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I will get my replacement unit next week probably (Google received my faulty P6P a couple of minutes ago) and will report back. If the issue will not be resolved Google will have a second chance to fix it before I have the legal right to withdraw from the purchase contract (at least here in my country). After 3 months I am just tired that Google seems to be unable to fix just a basic functionality of the phone softwarewise (or hardwarewise - who knows?!).

It looks like you can't get version 89.0___ unless you're in the Carrier Services beta group. But regardless, I think that I found a partial solution to one of the service issues that some are facing on T-Mo. In the SIM settings, put your "preferred network" to LTE (it's on 5G by default). In some areas of the US, your "5G" towers are just updated LTE towers and aren't proper 5G towers. As a result, if 5G is your preferred data type, it might dismiss the upgraded LTE towers and try its best to connect to an actual 5G tower, hence why it keeps failing and providing no service in some areas. Fixed.
Switching my preferred network to LTE resulted in the 5G logo popping up in the status bar and showing 3-4 bars of connection. It seems that the settings are a little messed up there.
*Edit* - Welp, nevermind. Ten minutes after doing this, the 5G logo went to the LTE image... And then ten more minutes later, I lost connection again and it wouldn't reconnect regardless of what was done... I'm gonna try joining the carrier services beta and see what happens. The only change I've made before this started happening was flash the latest Despair kernel.
*Final Edit* - I have removed my other edit posts as the issue was gone on other kernels and then returned a few minutes later. It seems there's either maintenance on my nearest cell tower or something else is going on... I'll wipe and reinstall the January update tonight to see what happens. Weird stuff. Yeah, disregard this as a re-update resolved the problem =)

What exactly does "carrier services" even do? It definitely isn't modem firmware, so can't impact signal strength or stability.

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What exactly does "carrier services" even do? It definitely isn't modem firmware, so can't impact signal strength or stability.
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This is the millions $$ question. Some say it deals with RCS messaging. Others have dug into the app and say it deals with IMS-related stuff. The going consensus is that it basically provides instructions of sorts to carriers on how to best optimise their service for the hardware. I can say that the .89 beta apk has improved my circumstance now about 24 hours in. I haven't had any disconnects that I am aware of. The device also appears to run cooler. I mean this could all be placebo and they could just be doing tower work, but it feels like an improvement to me.

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It looks like you can't get version 89.0___ unless you're in the Carrier Services beta group. But regardless, I think that I found a partial solution to one of the service issues that some are facing on T-Mo. In the SIM settings, put your "preferred network" to LTE (it's on 5G by default). In some areas of the US, your "5G" towers are just updated LTE towers and aren't proper 5G towers. As a result, if 5G is your preferred data type, it will dismiss the upgraded LTE towers and try its best to connect to an actual 5G tower, hence why it keeps failing and providing no service in some areas.
Switching my preferred network to LTE resulted in the 5G logo popping up in the status bar and showing 3-4 bars of connection. It seems that the settings are a little messed up there.
*Edit* - Welp, nevermind. Ten minutes after doing this, the 5G logo went to the LTE image... And then ten more minutes later, I lost connection again and it wouldn't reconnect regardless of what was done... I'm gonna try joining the carrier services beta and see what happens. The only change I've made before this started happening was flash the latest Despair kernel.
*Final Edit* - I have removed my other edit posts as the issue was gone on other kernels and then returned a few minutes later. It seems there's either maintenance on my nearest cell tower or something else is going on... I'll wipe and reinstall the January update tonight to see what happens. Weird stuff.
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There's definitely some backend wonkiness with the preferred network toggle. It takes a good minute sometimes more for the network to jump back to LTE.