I just got an update for Carrier Services via the PlayStore. I am now running Carrier Services 89.0..._20220118
Hopefully these updates will continue to improve our Cellular services.
How does it feel? Is your network more stable? How's standby faring up?
T-Mobile is still September policy.
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T-Mobile is still September policy.
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I hopped off the December 10th beta and manually installed this new carrier services 89. build. The connection seems more stable at first pass, but I also cannot seem to pick up 5G UC. I am going to take a drive and go tower hopping to see if I can jump start it with a handoff.
I think swider is talking about the app from the playstore rather than what T-Mobile shows in the sim option. Admittedly my knowledge is limited on the particulars of this stuff.
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I hopped off the December 10th beta and manually installed this new carrier services 89. build. The connection seems more stable at first pass, but I also cannot seem to pick up 5G UC. I am going to take a drive and go tower hopping to see if I can jump start it with a handoff.
I think swider is talking about the app from the playstore rather than what T-Mobile shows in the sim option. Admittedly my knowledge is limited on the particulars of this stuff.
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I thought you said you were going to drive by a tower and jump off
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I thought you said you were going to drive by a tower and jump off
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Probably a lot of people here would like to do that
Y'all, ROFL! If the reception situation doesn't improve I might be tempted to hop off a tower! I did drive out far enough for a handoff and it seems to have jump started everything as I anticipated. I am keeping an eye both on my speed and mobile network standby battery usage.
I will test on my Pixel 6 Pro... I hope this is better...
Edit : It's changing nothing, I just want cry again and again... (clear cache/data of carrier services, SIMToolkit, Sim Manager, reboot my Pixel...) F*ck Google !
Just RMA it. I also had connection issues right from the start (interupted mobile connection while at full LTE reception) and will get a replacement.
stroke55 said:
Just RMA it. I also had connection issues right from the start (interupted mobile connection while at full LTE reception) and will get a replacement.
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stroke55,
Did you have the same issues with your replacement device? I have read a couple people going that route and they all seem to end up with roughly the same issues on the new device. I am still willing to believe that it's a software problem.
I got the new Carrier Services about a day or so ago. I think I might have noticed a decent increase in network and therefore better battery life. But I'll know more in a day or so. But it does look good so far.
Sure would be nice if everyone got these updates at the same time.
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Sure would be nice if everyone got these updates at the same time.
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Get it from APK mirror, that's what I did
Beta of Carrier Services seems to be returned by the way. I just applied to it just in case xD
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stroke55,
Did you have the same issues with your replacement device? I have read a couple people going that route and they all seem to end up with roughly the same issues on the new device. I am still willing to believe that it's a software problem.
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I will get my replacement unit next week probably (Google received my faulty P6P a couple of minutes ago) and will report back. If the issue will not be resolved Google will have a second chance to fix it before I have the legal right to withdraw from the purchase contract (at least here in my country). After 3 months I am just tired that Google seems to be unable to fix just a basic functionality of the phone softwarewise (or hardwarewise - who knows?!).
It looks like you can't get version 89.0___ unless you're in the Carrier Services beta group. But regardless, I think that I found a partial solution to one of the service issues that some are facing on T-Mo. In the SIM settings, put your "preferred network" to LTE (it's on 5G by default). In some areas of the US, your "5G" towers are just updated LTE towers and aren't proper 5G towers. As a result, if 5G is your preferred data type, it might dismiss the upgraded LTE towers and try its best to connect to an actual 5G tower, hence why it keeps failing and providing no service in some areas. Fixed.
Switching my preferred network to LTE resulted in the 5G logo popping up in the status bar and showing 3-4 bars of connection. It seems that the settings are a little messed up there.
*Edit* - Welp, nevermind. Ten minutes after doing this, the 5G logo went to the LTE image... And then ten more minutes later, I lost connection again and it wouldn't reconnect regardless of what was done... I'm gonna try joining the carrier services beta and see what happens. The only change I've made before this started happening was flash the latest Despair kernel.
*Final Edit* - I have removed my other edit posts as the issue was gone on other kernels and then returned a few minutes later. It seems there's either maintenance on my nearest cell tower or something else is going on... I'll wipe and reinstall the January update tonight to see what happens. Weird stuff. Yeah, disregard this as a re-update resolved the problem =)
What exactly does "carrier services" even do? It definitely isn't modem firmware, so can't impact signal strength or stability.
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What exactly does "carrier services" even do? It definitely isn't modem firmware, so can't impact signal strength or stability.
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This is the millions $$ question. Some say it deals with RCS messaging. Others have dug into the app and say it deals with IMS-related stuff. The going consensus is that it basically provides instructions of sorts to carriers on how to best optimise their service for the hardware. I can say that the .89 beta apk has improved my circumstance now about 24 hours in. I haven't had any disconnects that I am aware of. The device also appears to run cooler. I mean this could all be placebo and they could just be doing tower work, but it feels like an improvement to me.
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It looks like you can't get version 89.0___ unless you're in the Carrier Services beta group. But regardless, I think that I found a partial solution to one of the service issues that some are facing on T-Mo. In the SIM settings, put your "preferred network" to LTE (it's on 5G by default). In some areas of the US, your "5G" towers are just updated LTE towers and aren't proper 5G towers. As a result, if 5G is your preferred data type, it will dismiss the upgraded LTE towers and try its best to connect to an actual 5G tower, hence why it keeps failing and providing no service in some areas.
Switching my preferred network to LTE resulted in the 5G logo popping up in the status bar and showing 3-4 bars of connection. It seems that the settings are a little messed up there.
*Edit* - Welp, nevermind. Ten minutes after doing this, the 5G logo went to the LTE image... And then ten more minutes later, I lost connection again and it wouldn't reconnect regardless of what was done... I'm gonna try joining the carrier services beta and see what happens. The only change I've made before this started happening was flash the latest Despair kernel.
*Final Edit* - I have removed my other edit posts as the issue was gone on other kernels and then returned a few minutes later. It seems there's either maintenance on my nearest cell tower or something else is going on... I'll wipe and reinstall the January update tonight to see what happens. Weird stuff.
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There's definitely some backend wonkiness with the preferred network toggle. It takes a good minute sometimes more for the network to jump back to LTE.
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Hope its not like apple aerial problem that plague them in the past, but today is my 3rd time over a week that I have lost phone signal on 3 UK network.
I am in a relatively strong signal, and my wife's signal is full bars on her HTC hero.
And when I try search for network it says error searching strange away as if there is a hardware fault. Only reboot fix this.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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Hope its not like apple aerial problem that plague them in the past, but today is my 3rd time over a week that I have lost phone signal on 3 UK network.
I am in a relatively strong signal, and my wife's signal is full bars on her HTC hero.
And when I try search for network it says error searching strange away as if there is a hardware fault. Only reboot fix this.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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I'm using on T-Mobile US (although I actually use Three when I visit the UK, several times a year) and I found one thing which *MAY* help.
It depends where you are, if you use Three only on their 3G signal, or if you rely on their 2G roaming with Orange or whoever it is these days. Anyway, you could try the following:
From the dialer, dial *#*#4636#*#* (4636 spelling INFO) and it will bring up a hidden "Testing" menu.
- Choose the first option "Phone Information"
- Scroll down and you'll see a pull down menu where you can select the network type
- Mine seems to default to GSM/CDMA auto (PRL)
- Try changing it to "WCDMA only" which should force your phone to ONLY use Three's 2100MHz network. (You could try "WCDMA Preferred" which should leave you with 2G as a fallback if needed).
I have no real evidence that this works - only that for me, it *seems* to hold onto a T-Mobile USA 3G signal a bit better - but I could be fooling myself.
Anyway, feel free to try it - you shouldn't need to reboot or anything. If it doesnt help, or screws something up, you can always set it back to the original setting (note that down!!).
Be careful playing around with the stuff in those menus BTW!!! Don't touch anything if you don't know what it does!
Well, I am afraid changing that WCDMA didn't stop my lost of signal problem I just suffered a few moments ago.
I KNOW its a perfect signals where I am. I work from home, so no roaming about.
Any other ideas? The SIM I am using was perfectly fine on the samsung galaxy s I had previously.
I also have reception problems - Vodafone UK/Handtec phone.
Sometimes it loses reception completely - have to turn off/on.
Often it jumps from 2G to HSPA when I know I should have stable 3G where I live.
If I go into area where there is no reception and come out under clear sky - it takes veeeery long time to get reception back. Its quicker to turn off/on the phone.
Its VERY buggy - email stopped working, volume on keypad goes on/off, error when trying to view gallery etc.
I hope in few months time Google gets it sorted.
I don't get any other buggy issues with my phone. Just signal drops. This is my 4th android phone - none of them experienced this problem before with the same sim card.
Its acting like its gone into airplane mode (but without the plane, but with working wifi)
Not a great solution to keep turning it off/on to regain its signal - I am not even aware of the lost of signal, and can't be missing any important calls/text.
Oh man. I don't really want to take my phone back!
I have a very similar problem with my GN as per this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374190
I have a new Galaxy Nexus from Amazon, sim free. Connects to Vodafone UK with no problem but will lose the connection entirely when I try to make or receive a call.
Same symptoms, loses carrier signal entirely, like in airplane mode but wifi, bluetooth etc carry on working. The same SIM (which I've had for years) works just fine in my old Desire.
Vodafone UK are sending me a new SIM so I'll try that but otherwise I think it will have to be returned to Amazon.
well, 6th time to lose signal was the last straw, so took the phone back to three shop. They haven't heard of this problem, but then again its so new.
The staff were brilliant - got the phone exchanged without kicking up any fuss
So will see how it goes. I did ask what happens if i still find a fault - they said next step is to replace the sim. Would have thought replacing the sim first rather then the phone, but hey-ho - a new phone. hope nothing else is wrong with it!
i have a replacement device coming for this very same issue today.
I am on an expandsys device on ATT.
the signal has got to the point of being so bad that i have 93% signal loss in my home which usually gets 3/4 bars.
My wifes iphone is working just fine as well.
hopefully the new device fixes it , if not they are both going back.
3-UK User here.
Only had GN since last thursday but not experience any of these symptoms.
Glad to see another 3-uk user having a GN - and not experiencing the no-signal problem - so it looks more promising.
aimetti - sounds like you got a lot worse then mine. most of the time, for me, the signal is fine - the lost of signal is occurring when I wake my phone from sleep and it doesn't always seem to regain signal back.
Instead of jumping onto a new phone, I think you guys should try a new SIM first. I saw a thread of people losing connection on Vodafone and a new SIM fixed it for all them
Well I just received my replacement
I will fill you all in. If it doesnt work I will activate my iphone 4s and put the micro sim in an adapter and test it in the SGN to see if its sim related.
Same problem here!
I've the same problem as tweedie's...
Seems to lose signal most of the time after waking up the phone.
could anyone told me how to fix this, of if it goes away with your replacement?
( in other words, I wan to know if this is a bug of ICS v.4.0.1, or a hardware problem)
I received a replacement same issues happening.
Have a trouble ticket open on Google with many replies but no help from Google.
I have been using the adr rom and the xxkk6 radio and seems to be a bit better.
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Romler, i took the phone back to store for replacement. Had no trouble since then which must be three weeks ago now.
It MUST be hardware related. Both had same stock rom, had little software installed, same location and both same version of rom.
I've been with 3 UK since 22/11/11 and I have had flawless service with them with no drop of signals at all.
The only time I lost signal was in the late hours one night for a few mins. When the signal came back I noticed I'm now getting HSPA+ with speeds of about 5-6 meg where previously I was only getting HSDPA with speeds of 2-3meg. To me that's proof enough of their network upgrades.
Rik.
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aindow said:
I've been with 3 UK since 22/11/11 and I have had flawless service with them with no drop of signals at all.
The only time I lost signal was in the late hours one night for a few mins. When the signal came back I noticed I'm now getting HSPA+ with speeds of about 5-6 meg where previously I was only getting HSDPA with speeds of 2-3meg. To me that's proof enough of their network upgrades.
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Bah if you're on HSDPA+. Still on normal HSDPA.
As for this 3 issue, I am on 3 and I have not had any issues at all. In fact 3 are better than other networks, at least better than Orange.
Three has been rolling out the H+ network the past month so it could be part of the work they were doing.
Will the Nexus display the H+ symbol instead of the plain H next to the battery? Or is there another way to tell if your on the new network?
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Three has been rolling out the H+ network the past month so it could be part of the work they were doing.
Will the Nexus display the H+ symbol instead of the plain H next to the battery? Or is there another way to tell if your on the new network?
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H is shown when connected to HSPA+ OR HSDPA
3G is shown when on a basic 3g service. Some phones drop to this to save battery when the faster speeds are not needed eg for background syncing(since the latest radio update, XXKK6, mine just switches between HSDPA and HSPA+ and very rarely shows just 3g).
G is shown when outside of the 3 network area. The phone will be using the Orange 2g network.
The status bar shows 3 when on Three, but shows 3 with another 3 below it when roaming on Orange.
If you go in to settings, about phone, status it will show the network type like below. Mine is sat on HSDPA and only switches to HSPA+ when I need to load something over the net
Connected to HSPA+
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Thanks for the info. I wonder if there is a widget we could get that is shown in the status bar that shows when we are on hsdp+, then I know if my area is covered. Otherwise, by the time you go to that screen, you may be off the H+ network and back to regular.
ive been using jelly bean and just recently my 3g signal just disappears randomly on verizon.
does anyone have a link to a good cdma(verizon) radio for jelly bean?
All of the JB ROMs are just using 4.0.4 radios. Sounds like you have some other problems.
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ive been using jelly bean and just recently my 3g signal just disappears randomly on verizon.
does anyone have a link to a good cdma(verizon) radio for jelly bean?
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I'm sprint and it does same thing for me. Yesterday in a three hour time frame I was disconnected from network 36% of the time. i think was even higher today. I keep checking the stats and no improvement really.
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just recently like last night and all day today ive been losing my signal all the time, especially when in my house. Its not unheard of but its doing it too frequently
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just recently like last night and all day today ive been losing my signal all the time, especially when in my house. Its not unheard of but its doing it too frequently
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I don't think I've had over two bars since flashed over and I get excited about those. I think I read in another thread (but could be wrong have been googling) and I think it's because we are a port and still have some ics features..? Don't quote me on that tho.
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Any help with this would be highly appreciated. Just bought a gnex from someone and I only really get a signal at home. I have pretty much no service anywhere that I used to have service with my Amaze with no problems before. I was hoping changing to jb might help but nothing.
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Any help with this would be highly appreciated. Just bought a gnex from someone and I only really get a signal at home. I have pretty much no service anywhere that I used to have service with my Amaze with no problems before. I was hoping changing to jb might help but nothing.
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Did you try to prl before you flashed over and was everything updated first?
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No, something happened to me too when I tried JB (VZW GNex)
I'm in the same boat (VZW GNex).
My stock 4.0.2 reception was "OK", not great. Same with stock 4.0.4 OTA update. Same after rooting. Same after CM9.
Then I tried jdkoreclipse 2.1 JB, and added the "Wi-Fi fix". Everything fine for a couple of days, then reception SUCKED -- empty triangle instead of bars. Toggling between "CDMA + LTE", "LTE only", and "CDMA only" made no difference.
I Reverted back to my prior CM9 image -- still bad, but I could get a signal outdoors sometimes, in a stronger area (sometimes it would help to turn Wi-Fi off). I re-flashed the proper radios -- no material difference.
I can't get any VZW signal at all inside my house or in the yard, inside my office or outdoors in front of it, inside or outside a Target store (all in an urban area -- some other outdoor areas I could get a stronger signal).
Last night I tried Razor's JB 2.6 -- same problem. Everything's working great on JB, (with the exception that my phone is not actually usable as a phone in many areas of the city). People complain that they have to leave messages that I have to retrieve from Google Voice over Wi-Fi, then I return the call on a land line. I tried "re-seating" my SIM card too.
It definitely appears to me as if something happened a couple of days after I first tried JB, that tanked my VZW reception, even after I reverted back to a prior saved ICS image, and re-flashing the 4.0.4 radios in ICS did not help. Every so often, I'll get a good signal outdoors, but I can't count on it.
I had better reception on ics also. I wonder if there will be a radio update when they finally do the full release
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One other thing that may be diagnostic
I don't know if this might make a difference, but somewhere along the way, Titanium Backup Pro reported that it detected a change in my Android device ID, and offered to revert it. At first I didn't revert it, but as I had more problems, I went ahead and reverted it as recommended. That was some time ago, and it did not happen again. Since the first JB versions originally came off of a Google I/O nandroid, is it possible that the one I loaded retained the Android device number from the source device, and maybe that played a role? Like I said, I reverted the ID AND later reverted to a prior saved ROM.
@ Jedininjafication, I noticed that you asked jacktrck if he "tried to prl before . . . ." I did a lot of things before I flashed, but I have to admit that I don't know what "prl" stands for. Maybe I did it, but I don't know. I can't think of anything that "prl" would stand for.
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I had better reception on ics also.
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Just so we're clear, this goes way beyond merely being "inferior" to ICS. We're talking NO SERVICE in a significant part of my city, whereas I used to have service to varying degrees of strength before.
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@ Jedininjafication, I noticed that you asked jacktrck if he "tried to prl before . . . ." I did a lot of things before I flashed, but I have to admit that I don't know what "prl" stands for. Maybe I did it, but I don't know. I can't think of anything that "prl" would stand for.
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PRL is Preferred Roaming List. It's essentially a list of towers that your phone can use. Keeping it updated avoids your phone looking for towers that don't exist (in the case of a tower being removed) and allows it to "see" any new towers that have been constructed.
On Verizon (and Sprint?), the PRL is automatically updated via the SIM for 4G devices and manually via *228 on 3G devices. On AT&T (unless something has changed in the last few years), it's updated via a star coded call only, though I don't know if AT&T also uses *228 or not.
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PRL is Preferred Roaming List. It's essentially a list of towers that your phone can use. Keeping it updated avoids your phone looking for towers that don't exist (in the case of a tower being removed) and allows it to "see" any new towers that have been constructed.
On Verizon (and Sprint?), the PRL is automatically updated via the SIM for 4G devices and manually via *228 on 3G devices. On AT&T (unless something has changed in the last few years), it's updated via a star coded call only, though I don't know if AT&T also uses *228 or not.
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Sometimes*228 won't connect and you have to do *22804 or *22805 on sprint. There is also a dialer code but you need your msl
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Sometimes*228 won't connect and you have to do *22804 or *22805 on sprint. There is also a dialer code but you need your msl
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Ah, that's slightly different than VZW. For us, we can do *228 and select option 2, or we can dial *22899 (I think that's the one) directly. In the case of the Nexus, it's a moot point (on VZW, at least), since we're updated manually via SIM. Most times attempting to dial *228 will result in the phone refusing to dial.
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Ah, that's slightly different than VZW. For us, we can do *228 and select option 2, or we can dial *22899 (I think that's the one) directly. In the case of the Nexus, it's a moot point (on VZW, at least), since we're updated manually via SIM. Most times attempting to dial *228 will result in the phone refusing to dial.
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He could try having them push an update. Sprint has had me do the *#*#4636.... Code and change my network to cdma(prl) then go do the *228.. And that's worked. I had garbage service other day until I did a ping in same dialer code. I don't know if menu is the same on Verizon tho
OH! don't do the SCRTN if your do call them! I did that and since am not stock it completely set my meid and stuff to all zeros and they couldn't figure out how to fix so i had to restore
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I was having terrible data drops and couldn't find a solution. Turned out to be a faulty radio. Got a replacement and haven't had any issues since. So it does happen I guess.
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Android ID
So, what do you guys think of the Android ID thing? Non-issue? And what would have caused it to change in the first place?
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So, what do you guys think of the Android ID thing? Non-issue? And what would have caused it to change in the first place?
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after i did the scrtn thing and everything set to 0000000000 and restored back to a previous version and did the update I haven't really had issues. I do at my house in my room but have been good other than that. I don't even know if Verizon has that menu, but it's the factory data reset code for us. Doesn't reset the other stuff.
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i have no idea what happened but this is on 3g. Not wifi. no lte here..I'm second round. Awesome
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I was having great 4G signal running any ICS rom, however my signal would drop 4-5 times per hour. I called verizon to see what they could do, as I had read that some people had better luck with a replacement phone or sim card. Verizon first sent me a replacement sim card which made it worse. Next they sent me a replacement phone. The first replacement, which I have no clue how it passed re-certification, because you could see the 3-pin charging area from the front of the phone. The housing was not seated correctly on the phone after they refurbished the phone. So I called verizon back again and I got a second replacement. This one was free of any visual defects that I could see and runs fine on ICS or JB roms.. However I am still getting awful signal where I used to get 3-4 bars 4G all constantly on my original nexus.
If I reboot the phone it locks on the tower at 4G for maybe 1-2 minutes, then drops to 3G full bars, then slowly over the next few minutes drops to 0-1 3G bar(s) and then down to 1X.
I suppose my next move is to get yet another replacement and see if I have any better luck. This is becoming a nightmare.
This is one of those, "Is anyone else having this problem or is just me?" posts.
Within roughly the last month when I'm on a voice call my data service goes out 80% of the time. This used to be really solid. This was with Yakju ICS with the UGLC1 baseband. I upgraded to stock Jelly Bean in the hopes that this would be fixed and it was a baseband issue. However there was no improvement.
I've had this happen in very good signal areas from Virginia to New York.
Anyone think this is a GN bug? An AT&T conspiracy that no one should be doing simultaneous voice and data to reduce data consumption? Basically WTF?
On to the XXLF1 baseband to see what that does. As I said, all was well up to about a month ago...
I do not have this issue... tho I may be asking for to much but when on a call my data is slowed down to Edge speeds... enough to surf the web yes since edge speeds aren't bad. But I wish at least 2 Mbps while on call... I've never had your issue tho, even after flashing jelly bean. Same radio but perhaps your area is too congested? Or perhaps your APN Settings need to be changed? =\
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Calls are prioritized over data. If you are on a call and the signal strength decreases rapidly or enough data will disconnect to ensure that voice traffic remains at the highest possible quality.
Hmm. Annoying!
Well it's the same phone, same travel areas, very good signal, data just stops working in lots of cases now.
Could be different firmware. But if it was I suspect others would be seeing the problem too which is why I posted.
I used to get quite good data speeds during a voice call as well. I would stream video just fine.
This really kills the ability to use Google Maps/Navigation/Yelp and others while on a call. Which was really the only reason I was still with AT&T.
If I'm really all alone on this I'll try older basebands and see if that improves things.
I am having the same problem
This problem started for me as well on a GSIII. Did you ever find a resolution?
haydonxda said:
This is one of those, "Is anyone else having this problem or is just me?" posts.
Within roughly the last month when I'm on a voice call my data service goes out 80% of the time. This used to be really solid. This was with Yakju ICS with the UGLC1 baseband. I upgraded to stock Jelly Bean in the hopes that this would be fixed and it was a baseband issue. However there was no improvement.
I've had this happen in very good signal areas from Virginia to New York.
Anyone think this is a GN bug? An AT&T conspiracy that no one should be doing simultaneous voice and data to reduce data consumption? Basically WTF?
On to the XXLF1 baseband to see what that does. As I said, all was well up to about a month ago...
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This problem started for me as well on a GSIII. Did you ever find a resolution?
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No resolution though it seems to have improved a little bit since I wrote this.
Since you're seeing this on a different phone I'm guessing this is AT&T mucking around.
Still going on. I suspect this has something to do with the JB update.
Very aggravating to not be able to use maps or other applications while talking.
This is what I hate about Android. So far I've never had an Android device that did all of the BASIC things properly and I've always been chasing "that final fix". It seems Google's bar for a software release is very low.
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Still going on. I suspect this has something to do with the JB update.
Very aggravating to not be able to use maps or other applications while talking.
This is what I hate about Android. So far I've never had an Android device that did all of the BASIC things properly and I've always been chasing "that final fix". It seems Google's bar for a software release is very low.
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It does it on any phone... once your on a call your data dies down to 2G speeds...
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haydonxda said:
Hmm. Annoying!
Well it's the same phone, same travel areas, very good signal, data just stops working in lots of cases now.
Could be different firmware. But if it was I suspect others would be seeing the problem too which is why I posted.
I used to get quite good data speeds during a voice call as well. I would stream video just fine.
This really kills the ability to use Google Maps/Navigation/Yelp and others while on a call. Which was really the only reason I was still with AT&T.
If I'm really all alone on this I'll try older basebands and see if that improves things.
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any gsm provider (or provider with LTE) can do data while in a call, with gsm your phone needs to be on 3g/H and with cdma you need LTE and to be connected to LTE signal
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It does it on any phone... once your on a call your data dies down to 2G speeds...
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No, I'm not complaining about data being "slower". Many times however I have no data connectivity when on a call. It was working for years up until sometime in the last several months.
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No, I'm not complaining about data being "slower". Many times however I have no data connectivity when on a call. It was working for years up until sometime in the last several months.
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maybe network congestion?
or at&t could be removing/changing a few towers in your area to LTE?
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maybe network congestion?
or at&t could be removing/changing a few towers in your area to LTE?
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Could be either I guess. I'm in an LTE area. Hard to believe they're throwing this feature under the bus though for people without LTE phones. I can imagine they'd really be cheesing off the iPhone community. I'll see if I can dig up another phone to test.
Annnnd with stock 4.1.2 this is also a problem.
Once data drops while you're on a call it NEVER comes back until the call is completed. And it's only a problem with the GN.
Pro job guys.
This phone has been a big disappointment for me. Camera quality, low volume, and occasionally working voice/data. If they can't get basic crap right who cares about Project Butter?
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Could be either I guess. I'm in an LTE area. Hard to believe they're throwing this feature under the bus though for people without LTE phones. I can imagine they'd really be cheesing off the iPhone community. I'll see if I can dig up another phone to test.
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AT&T LTE phones actually drop back to HSPA when you're on a call, so it would be affecting people with LTE phones as well.
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AT&T LTE phones actually drop back to HSPA when you're on a call, so it would be affecting people with LTE phones as well.
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Out of the phones I have, it's only the GN that's exhibiting this problem. And, in fact, in the past it did not suffer from this problem. Some bug was introduced.
Further follow up... Under less than ideal conditions it looks like the GN (and now Nexus 4 as well) both will drop data entirely until the end of a call. This seems to happen if your connection is bumped down to 2G. During the entire duration of the call the data connection will never be reestablished.
You must end the call to get data back. This happens both on AT&T and T-Mobile networks. I don't know whether this is a GSM/HSPA limitation or a bug in Android. I think it's an Android bug.
Additionally AT&T's simultaneous data speed is throttled back so much it's crazy bad. I found far FEWER drops on T-Mobile because AT&T's network just seems to stink so badly. It's got more holes than Swiss cheese.
Data speeds are also much higher on T-Mobile. Off call they're much higher and on call there's no comparison. T-Mobile isn't throttling data when on a call.
AT&T effectively doesn't support simultaneous voice and data any longer. Their ads are bull. Some more information on it:
http://thesmartphonechamp.com/att-secretly-throttling-their-smartphone-customers-video/
http://www.att.com/Common/about_us/files/pdf/talk_surf_fact_sheet.pdf
Just got done talking to sprint over the community and the signal issue many people are having trouble with they said I need to get my phone run through diagnostics for antenna malfunction which I think is b.s. cause my phones are acting up my sister in laws LG Machs are doing the same as well as my friends s5s and s4s so its obviously a problem connected to there towers and the way I see it they need to start getting everything done right otherwise I'm headed to verizon
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alienngp said:
Just got done talking to sprint over the community and the signal issue many people are having trouble with they said I need to get my phone run through diagnostics for antenna malfunction which I think is b.s. cause my phones are acting up my sister in laws LG Machs are doing the same as well as my friends s5s and s4s so its obviously a problem connected to there towers and the way I see it they need to start getting everything done right otherwise I'm headed to verizon
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My Sprint S3 is on KitKat 4.4.2 ND8 and my mobile data isn't stable. 4G/3G keeps disconnecting and reconnecting.
Same here, MrrD.
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same
Opposite here, guess it depends on your area. Mine is better than ever but right before the 4.4 update it was horrid. I think they're trying to overhaul their network now so it might be shaky for a bit.
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Sprint is updating its network vision for your area. We're sorry for the inconvenience.
This is all I ever hear out of those outsourced folks from India.
also, in california, my 4g and 3g always alternate depending on which part of town im at. Its rediculous.
Never had the data issues when I was on stock 4.1.2.
For me, a solution that is temporary may be leaving mobile data on, don't turn it off. Power phone off and power on again. Wait for data to connect.
I did that and my data seemed to be stable, but if you turn your data off and leave it off for a while and turn it on again, it'll become unstable again.
MrrD said:
Never had the data issues when I was on stock 4.1.2.
For me, a solution that is temporary may be leaving mobile data on, don't turn it off. Power phone off and power on again. Wait for data to connect.
I did that and my data seemed to be stable, but if you turn your data off and leave it off for a while and turn it on again, it'll become unstable again.
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My data on kit Kat is better than ever. 4.3 was horrible and 4.1.2 was pretty good
I'll also bet they are doing tower upgrades. Be patient sprint is overall the best.
If you go to Verizon you may have a good signal but it's will cost you about 30% more in cost and you'll constantly have to
Monitor your data.
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MrrD said:
Never had the data issues when I was on stock 4.1.2.
For me, a solution that is temporary may be leaving mobile data on, don't turn it off. Power phone off and power on again. Wait for data to connect.
I did that and my data seemed to be stable, but if you turn your data off and leave it off for a while and turn it on again, it'll become unstable again.
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Maybe that's why they removed the data toggle from the notifications?
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and see this is what im talking about they think they know it all they think its a antenna malfunction but its not just me and were im at i see so many people responding to this thread and having simular problems but they dont want to beleieve me when i have been around since the start of android phones and they just have no brains i swear
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alienngp said:
and see this is what im talking about they think they know it all they think its a antenna malfunction but its not just me and were im at i see so many people responding to this thread and having simular problems but they dont want to beleieve me when i have been around since the start of android phones and they just have no brains i swear
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So how do you really feel? ?
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how do i really feel we got too many ignorant aliens working at sprint that dont know a lick of anything about android and there towers i think its the fact they need to get some true americans like us here at xda to work for them at least the people here know what there doing and know how to fix it
i had better data on 4.3 then kitkat smdh
alienngp said:
how do i really feel we got too many ignorant aliens working at sprint that dont know a lick of anything about android and there towers i think its the fact they need to get some true americans like us here at xda to work for them at least the people here know what there doing and know how to fix it
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When I call customer service I get connected with an office in Shreveport where I speak to Americans. Sorry to inform you that they're typically not any more knowledgeable than the people you're referring to. The good thing is that I get to speak to people at all. When I was on AT&T that was often an incredibly difficult thing to do. The last time I spoke with Sprint's customer service, it was in regards to how horrible my cell signal is at my house. The lady told me that they were indeed updating their system in my area and were expecting it to be 100% completed in the first part of June. I'm waiting to see how that goes before complaining any further.
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When I call customer service I get connected with an office in Shreveport where I speak to Americans. Sorry to inform you that they're typically not any more knowledgeable than the people you're referring to. The good thing is that I get to speak to people at all. When I was on AT&T that was often an incredibly difficult thing to do. The last time I spoke with Sprint's customer service, it was in regards to how horrible my cell signal is at my house. The lady told me that they were indeed updating their system in my area and were expecting it to be 100% completed in the first part of June. I'm waiting to see how that goes before complaining any further.
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Hahahaha. Yeah that's the story I've heard for the last 2 years. Sprint LTE is a joke. I regularly get sub 10k speeds with 4G connection. Enter a building and it's back to 1x. Come July I have 2 GS3s for sale and it's buhbye Sprint after 10+ years of broken promises.
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enzoevo said:
Hahahaha. Yeah that's the story I've heard for the last 2 years. Sprint LTE is a joke. I regularly get sub 10k speeds with 4G connection. Enter a building and it's back to 1x. Come July I have 2 GS3s for sale and it's buhbye Sprint after 10+ years of broken promises.
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Must be location related. I live in the middle of nowhere, in a forest nonetheless, and in my house I get 1 bar of 3G. On my back porch I get 2 bars of LTE, but in town I get full LTE. It's slightly less signal than I got at home on AT&T but then I was paying almost twice as much for only 2 gigs of data. But, I suppose the grass is always greener... :sly:
Just updated to 4.4 and data connection seems to be stable. When I was on 4.3 the past 3 weeks it would shift to 3G a few times but I think Sprint is upgrading our towers. On 4.4 its gone down a few times to 3G but I'm banking on the Towers.
Ive been on 4.4.2 for a few weeks now and my devices ability to hold onto a signal has gone down considerably. Previously I had to roam at my house. (We live in the country) Now a lot of time I have no signal at all! There's nothing to be done about it so I just use wifi and don't worry about it.
My data keeps going from 4GLTE to 3G no matter where I go unless I reboot my phone.
Well I'm testing out T-Mobile in my area since AT&T is frankly getting too expensive for me. I received my SIM card today, turned the phone off, put it in, and powered back on. Everything seems to be working and upon initial boot I show LTE.. Then I eventually see 3G, then H+ ... My area is saturated with LTE for T-Mobile and I'm a bit confused as to why I'm having such an issue with signal. Signal with my AT&T wasn't horrible, but never dropped LTE on me while in my home.
Is there anything specific I can do to improve reception at all? I am running DP2 of Android P.. Maybe there's an issue there.. I can't seem to figure this out. T-Mobile says everything should be running fine as the coverage is there.
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Well I'm testing out T-Mobile in my area since AT&T is frankly getting too expensive for me. I received my SIM card today, turned the phone off, put it in, and powered back on. Everything seems to be working and upon initial boot I show LTE.. Then I eventually see 3G, then H+ ... My area is saturated with LTE for T-Mobile and I'm a bit confused as to why I'm having such an issue with signal. Signal with my AT&T wasn't horrible, but never dropped LTE on me while in my home.
Is there anything specific I can do to improve reception at all? I am running DP2 of Android P.. Maybe there's an issue there.. I can't seem to figure this out. T-Mobile says everything should be running fine as the coverage is there.
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Just a thought, don't know if it'll help or not. Have you thought about fastbooting a different radio from the latest 8.1 factory image?? I honesty don't know if there's any difference between them, but it maybe worth a shot. If your bootloader unlocked of course
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Just a thought, don't know if it'll help or not. Have you thought about fastbooting a different radio from the latest 8.1 factory image?? I honesty don't know if there's any difference between them, but it maybe worth a shot. If your bootloader unlocked of course
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Always unlocked, and I did flash back to the May 8.1 update. It did improve a little.. it's just a puzzling situation. There's a T-Mobile tower less than a mile from me up on a hill a bit. It's very close.. Maybe too close? I don't know.. I get LTE from it.. Luckily a signal booster from them is free and may help. So far I haven't dropped signal completely since going back to 8.1 but it's running close to -119 which I think if memory serves, is very low.
I have been on T-Mobile for years. My signal on my Pixel 2 XL has been really good except my friend's new apartment, but I think it's because the building is blocking the signal really heavily.
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Always unlocked, and I did flash back to the May 8.1 update. It did improve a little.. it's just a puzzling situation. There's a T-Mobile tower less than a mile from me up on a hill a bit. It's very close.. Maybe too close? I don't know.. I get LTE from it.. Luckily a signal booster from them is free and may help. So far I haven't dropped signal completely since going back to 8.1 but it's running close to -119 which I think if memory serves, is very low.
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10 to 1 your actually too close to the tower and the signal is actually going over the top of you. What happens when you get 2-3 miles away from it. This is all just spec on my part though ?
Badger50 said:
10 to 1 your actually too close to the tower and the signal is actually going over the top of you. What happens when you get 2-3 miles away from it. This is all just spec on my part though
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I never thought of that.. my house is a total dead zone. I drove around town and was getting 100+Mbps download speeds, amazing signal. So it's not the phone/radio. It's either I'm too close, or something odd with the tower. Maybe it's an old 2G tower they 'turned into' LTE? I don't know, I do know it's one of the oldest radio towers in town.. I drove as close to the tower as I could without trespassing.. I know the signal could be going over my head, but it only pulled about 23Mbps ... Closer to downtown I was pulling 120+Mbps on the speed test..
Not sure there's anything I can really do other than ask for a booster for the house and see if that helps. I can do without signal at home due to the Wifi calling, but is that a risk? I have a landline, but only for work.. May have to pull double duty.. All this is to save myself some money.. 4 Paid Lines with T-Mobile is cheaper than 3 Paid lines and one free line with AT&T.. it's crazy..
It may have something to do with the Android Beta's, I remember seeing signal issues like this on the Oreo beta as well.
Are you still seeing signal issues on the may security patch?
There is a tmo specific flash for June.
And the build is working for the most part....
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Well I'm testing out T-Mobile in my area since AT&T is frankly getting too expensive for me. I received my SIM card today, turned the phone off, put it in, and powered back on. Everything seems to be working and upon initial boot I show LTE.. Then I eventually see 3G, then H+ ... My area is saturated with LTE for T-Mobile and I'm a bit confused as to why I'm having such an issue with signal. Signal with my AT&T wasn't horrible, but never dropped LTE on me while in my home.
Is there anything specific I can do to improve reception at all? I am running DP2 of Android P.. Maybe there's an issue there.. I can't seem to figure this out. T-Mobile says everything should be running fine as the coverage is there.
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Its not just P Dev Preview, having same issue on 8.1.0
AndroidDevices said:
Its not just P Dev Preview, having same issue on 8.1.0
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Damn that sucks, Call up tmo tech support and have them investigate that issue. They usually do a test in your area, and if they can't fix the issue they'll make note of it and install another tower.
tarroyo said:
Damn that sucks, Call up tmo tech support and have them investigate that issue. They usually do a test in your area, and if they can't fix the issue they'll make note of it and install another tower.
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They built a TMO Build for June : 8.1.0 (OPM4.171019.021.E1, Jun 2018, T-Mobile)
AndroidDevices said:
They built a TMO Build for June : 8.1.0 (OPM4.171019.021.E1, Jun 2018, T-Mobile)
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Does it fix the issues you were having?
tarroyo said:
Does it fix the issues you were having?
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Havent had any issues so i would say YES!:good:
The latest June release did fix some issues.. but didn't fix the issues in my home. Seems the signal in the area has issues penetrating some buildings. A tower is close but the theory from T-Mobile and others that I've talked to on here and elsewhere is the tower is just a bit too close and likely going over my head. They sent me a CellSpot. This thing is amazing! Connects to my ISP and uses that to 'phone home' to T-Mobile. It sends out full signals of 3G/4G and 4G LTE. It's amazing and free! Sends a strong signal outside of the house and around too.. T-Mobile is something else!!
So when you say ISP, you mean T-Mobiles network?
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So when you say ISP, you mean T-Mobiles network?
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No, it's actually connected to my ISP Suddenlink. I don't know how it all works, but through the internet, when I'm using LTE instead of regular Wifi, it's using the T-Mobile Network but through my ISP connection. I don't know how it works, but my signal is roughly -60 to -50 at all times inside and outside around my house.
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Havent had any issues so i would say YES!:good:
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For some reason it is saying incorrect zip format for that TMO build zip you guys linked.