Simultaneous Voice and Data? - Sprint Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Received my note 4 yesterday, noticed today while I was on a call that I could not connect to LTE data simultaneously as I was used to doing on my note 3. This led me to inquire why this was the case, after searching the web I found that to the best of my understanding that the new sprint phones are all coming with one chip to access a cell signal instead of two like my note 3. If I've misspoke about the reason my apologies but I believe thats what I understood. Now I'm wandering if I was to use google voice to make calls could I then access data as well? This leads to another question, my understanding is that Sprint customers can allow google voice to use there current mobile number as there google voice number. If anyone has done this I would like to know if there are concerns to have and can you opt out if you no longer want to use the service? Any suggestions are appreciated.

Wow...this sucks! I just tested mine and i cant use data while making a fcuking call. Wtf sprint

danielddube said:
Wow...this sucks! I just tested mine and i cant use data while making a fcuking call. Wtf sprint
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Like I said, I've never used Google voice for phone calls but that may be an option I'm just concerned about giving my phone number to google if I want to get it back.

todds67 said:
Like I said, I've never used Google voice for phone calls but that may be an option I'm just concerned about giving my phone number to google if I want to get it back.
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you can always drop Google Voice from your number

Some are using hangouts. You can call and use WiFi for data if available, or you can do both call & data on WiFi.
For 95% its not an issue and Sprint is going VoIP in the near future and will be able to do both then.
The trade-off is better battery life with one antenna compared to having two.

Itchiee said:
Some are using hangouts. You can call and use WiFi for data if available, or you can do both call & data on WiFi.
For 95% its not an issue and Sprint is going VoIP in the near future and will be able to do both then.
The trade-off is better battery life with one antenna compared to having two.
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So you can call out without wifi and use data, even with the Hangouts dialer?
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So when I'm on 4g I won't be able to call someone using phone? Wtf, I can do that on my note 2...how the hell is this progress?

This is 100% Unsat!!!
I can't believe this has happened. I too need to know if this can be fixed by using Google Voice. You can keep your own number without giving it to GV, but this is completely a backward proposition.

U can only if you are on wifi or 4g while making call. Verizon and Sprint can not do data while on calls unless u are on 4g at the time or WiFi. Its the limitation of having CDMA devices. Att and tmobile doesnt have that issue

Hangouts essentially uses VoIP. Of course it will work. You're not actually making a cellular call with it.
All Sprint Spark LTE phones are incapable of using voice&data at the same time.

freeza said:
Hangouts essentially uses VoIP. Of course it will work. You're not actually making a cellular call with it.
All Sprint Spark LTE phones are incapable of using voice&data at the same time.
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So the note 4 is a spark phone but the note 2 isn't?

New technology.. smh
I have the same problem with my LG G3. Cant surf the net while making calls. Its really a disappointment. Somehow Sprint needs to find a way to be able to have Spark and use data at the same dang time. My friend has the Note 4 as well and told me she could talk and use the net but I think she BS-n.

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So the note 4 is a spark phone but the note 2 isn't?
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That's correct.
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sosmooth757 said:
I have the same problem with my LG G3. Cant surf the net while making calls. Its really a disappointment. Somehow Sprint needs to find a way to be able to have Spark and use data at the same dang time. My friend has the Note 4 as well and told me she could talk and use the net but I think she BS-n.
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She's lying ?
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No Simo Voice/Data
With Sprink Spark, You can no longer have simo talk/text. It's a single signal. Instead of CDMA / GSM on LTE Devices. It is only allowing one. Now that isnt due to the phone. It's the towers and the tech they are using. I heard they are in the works to update that and there will eventually be a fix.
I work for Sprint.

neotremer said:
With Sprink Spark, You can no longer have simo talk/text. It's a single signal. Instead of CDMA / GSM on LTE Devices. It is only allowing one. Now that isnt due to the phone. It's the towers and the tech they are using. I heard they are in the works to update that and there will eventually be a fix.
I work for Sprint.
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I think you meant "...simo talk/data"...

Are you telling me a bunch of sprint user's didn't know that spark phone's wasn't capable of talking and surfing the web at the same time using the phone data network lmao? Seriously why don't you guy's look up info before purchasing a phone first lmao this has been known since the first spark phone which was what i think the lg g2 if I'm not mistaken but no wait it's sprint fault for taking the direction they choose to better their network and services lol.

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blacjac30 said:
U can only if you are on wifi or 4g while making call. Verizon and Sprint can not do data while on calls unless u are on 4g at the time or WiFi. Its the limitation of having CDMA devices. Att and tmobile doesnt have that issue
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Most sprint phones dont have that capability, but yes the note 2, 3, and gs4 and 3 do . I have had them all and all work when on 4g and of course WIFI. It has nothing to do with the limitations of the CDMA network, its the hardware that they put in them. (as well) yes it is easier to do over GSM and they usually have that feature. though This is something that we should have been let known and also should have been worked out before putting (or lack thereof) something like taking those antennas out in play before getting the network right. Most of us cant use spark anyway! lol so now its no spark and you cant be on the phone and get 4g either, on the newest phones, G3, S5, Note 4 ETC....

neotremer said:
With Sprink Spark, You can no longer have simo talk/text. It's a single signal. Instead of CDMA / GSM on LTE Devices. It is only allowing one. Now that isnt due to the phone. It's the towers and the tech they are using. I heard they are in the works to update that and there will eventually be a fix.
I work for Sprint.
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When you say eventually... Have they actually given some type of internal horizon or if it eventually like paying off the national debt?

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When you say eventually... Have they actually given some type of internal horizon or if it eventually like paying off the national debt?
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Lol nice. In for answer too
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Why is both WiFi and LTE showing in my status bar when im on a WiFi connection? Yes, I do have download booster on, but it was doing this way before I enabled that for the first time.
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GN users on AT&T...here's how I got a 4G HSPA+ plan

EDIT: A user mentioned that if you have unlimited data, trying to get on the correct HSPA+ plan could mess with that, so don't try this unless you want to risk losing unlimited data. I'm completely unsure if it would keep your unlimited data or not, but I thought I'd throw that out there.
So for those of you who are either coming from the iphone or another non-4g hspa phone (or are new to AT&T) and using the galaxy nexus, you will be put on the regular smartphone data plan. First of all, there are 3 different data plans for smartphones:
regular smartphone data
smartphone data for 4G phones
smartphone data for 4G LTE phones
The data plan you want to be on with the GN is the "smartphone data for 4g phones" which is the HSPA plan. Like I said, most of the people activating a GN on AT&T will automatically be put on the regular smartphone data plan, which will limit your speeds, even if your phone shows it's on HSPA.
After spending about an hour on the phone with AT&T customer service, I FINALLY found someone who knew EXACTLY what the GN was and what I wanted to do. Basically, the AT&T systems DO NOT allow employees to even manually override and put a 4G data plan on our account for the GN, so the guy had to do a workaround and he activated an atrix on my account, put my account on the 4g HSPA plan, and then reactivated my GN which KEPT the 4g plan on there.
After this, my speeds have dramatically improved. I always thought the phone would only switch to "H" in the signal bar when using heavy data (I thought it was a phone feature...you guys know how it always switches from 3g to H constantly? This is what I'm talking about), but after getting the 4g hspa plan on my account, the phone stays on H for MOST of the time. It'll still switch to 3g, but before making the change, it was showing 3g most of the time.
In conclusion, there are two ways to do this which the guy explained to me:
1. You can find someone with an AT&T 4g phone (atrix, insprie, infuse, s2, etc), pop in your sim in THEIR phone to activate that phone on your account, go to "manage features" on your account, switch to smartphone data for 4g phones, and submit. After that, pop the sim back in your nexus and it will keep the 4g plan.
2. Or if you don't know anyone who has one of these phones, call up 611 and have them do it for you (which is what I did). I'll be honest, it's a pain in the ass because you actually have to find someone who knows what you are trying to do and knows what the galaxy nexus is (not to be sexist...but I spoke to 3 women and they had no idea what I was trying to do...the first guy I talked to knew exactly what I wanted).
Once you find a person who knows about the GN and unlocked phones in general, explain that your account has the regular smartphone data plan on there which is limiting you to 3g speeds even though you have an HSPA phone (this is where the customer service person knowing what the GN helps out a lot), and you need him to manually put the 4g plan on your account. Since the system won't allow this, he needs to use an IMEI number from any of their 4g phones (atrix, infuse, inspire, etc), actiivate that on your account, then switch it over (basically same as step one except you aren't physically putting your sim in another phone).
Hope that helps. I'm happy as hell now because it was bothering me to be limited to 3g speeds even though I have an HSPA phone.
I tried to get a direct line for you guys to call the guy I spoke to, but unfortunately he didn't have one.
My speeds on a regular (unlimited grandfathered data) are very fast. 5-6 mbps.
I just popped my sim in and went (on the Cingular 410 or whatever).
I added the manual HSDPA+ access point, and noticed no difference. Still 5-6 mbps on average.
What are you getting that requires these hoops? I can't imagine much faster?
ericshmerick said:
My speeds on a regular (unlimited grandfathered data) are very fast. 5-6 mbps.
I just popped my sim in and went (on the Cingular 410 or whatever).
I added the manual HSDPA+ access point, and noticed no difference. Still 5-6 mbps on average.
What are you getting that requires these hoops? I can't imagine much faster?
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Around 10mbps in good areas, and more than double what I was getting at my house before changing the plan (low signal area).
Like I said, even if your phone shows it on HSPA (by either the "H" in the signal bar or "HSPA" in signal settings), AT&T is STILL limiting your speeds because you only have the regular data plan on your account. You need the correct data plan on YOUR ACCOUNT to get the speeds you deserve.
Nothing to do with APN's....I am using the stock APN. It's all about AT&T limiting your speed (automatically...by what data plan you have on your account), so you need to get the correct plan on there.
nice post, i just got off the phone with them and they originally put me on a 4G LTE plan instead of just 4G HSPA.
Was getting tons of service issues. Hopefully this solves my problems.
Thanks bro. I'm calling now.
I'm super nervous about having someone across the world monkey with my grandfathered unlimited data, so I'll pass. Just not worth the risk of someone changing my plan to tiered...
ericshmerick said:
I'm super nervous about having someone across the world monkey with my grandfathered unlimited data, so I'll pass. Just not worth the risk of someone changing my plan to tiered...
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Understandable if you have unlimited data, but I don't, so I didn't mine someone doing whatever they could to get me on the correct plan.
Edited the OP also.
i had them email me our changes at the end of the call and told them to specifically include unlimited data.
brian85 said:
(not to be sexist...but I spoke to 3 women and they had no idea what I was trying to do...the first guy I talked to knew exactly what I wanted).
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I am pretty sure that's sexist! But good how to all the same.
ianwood said:
I am pretty sure that's sexist! But good how to all the same.
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Well I know it is, but I really am not trying to be.
It's just guys seem to know more about smartphones and stuff...just like girls would know about clothing or something.
brian85 said:
Well I know it is, but I really am not trying to be.
It's just guys seem to know more about smartphones and stuff...just like girls would know about clothing or something.
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Dude you've crossed the line with that last statement. The last female on XDA just left thanks to you!
Joe
LOL, oh well.
ericshmerick said:
I'm super nervous about having someone across the world monkey with my grandfathered unlimited data, so I'll pass. Just not worth the risk of someone changing my plan to tiered...
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If you're in the US who across the world is messing with your AT&T grandfathered plan?
Anyway, I jsut called AT&T and the rep knew exactly what I wanted to do and hooked me up. When I get off work I'll test the speeds. I'm thinking about getting a new SIM card for the heck of it.
BTW: the rep was a woman LOL at OP.
Have to find someone to do for me again. I've been switching back and forth from the iPhone. Good to know it still works. There was a gentleman on XDA who works for AT&T that got referrals or something for doing it. Cool dude, I wish I could remember his user name.
bmstrong said:
Have to find someone to do for me again. I've been switching back and forth from the iPhone. Good to know it still works. There was a gentleman on XDA who works for AT&T that got referrals or something for doing it. Cool dude, I wish I could remember his user name.
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Just call AT&T they will set you up.
Gary86 said:
Just call AT&T they will set you up.
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Yeah but I like to hook up members first.
this is what my plan shows now
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Gary86 said:
If you're in the US who across the world is messing with your AT&T grandfathered plan?
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Are you suggesting 100% of AT&T's call centers consist of US based workers?
I think not. I don't want to gamble with a language barrier with "Peggy" (i.e. Rackashana) going into my account and making changes. I just don't trust that a perfect preservation of my unlimited plan will be the outcome from the hokey language barrier conversation.
brian85 said:
1. You can find someone with an AT&T 4g phone (atrix, insprie, infuse, s2, etc), pop in your sim in THEIR phone to activate that phone on your account, go to "manage features" on your account, switch to smartphone data for 4g phones, and submit. After that, pop the sim back in your nexus and it will keep the 4g plan.
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Has anyone tried this? How long does this take to take effect? I can try this, but it would be a real pain if it were to take a while.
ianwood said:
I am pretty sure that's sexist! But good how to all the same.
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No, it's not. Making a statement like "keep hanging up until you get a guy on the phone, the women have no clue what they're talking about" would be sexist.
He merely pointed out a fact - three women he spoke to had no clue, the first guy he talked to immediately helped. Any inference or conclusions drawn from this pattern would be on the reader.

AT&T limited simultaneous voice + data

This is one of those, "Is anyone else having this problem or is just me?" posts.
Within roughly the last month when I'm on a voice call my data service goes out 80% of the time. This used to be really solid. This was with Yakju ICS with the UGLC1 baseband. I upgraded to stock Jelly Bean in the hopes that this would be fixed and it was a baseband issue. However there was no improvement.
I've had this happen in very good signal areas from Virginia to New York.
Anyone think this is a GN bug? An AT&T conspiracy that no one should be doing simultaneous voice and data to reduce data consumption? Basically WTF?
On to the XXLF1 baseband to see what that does. As I said, all was well up to about a month ago...
I do not have this issue... tho I may be asking for to much but when on a call my data is slowed down to Edge speeds... enough to surf the web yes since edge speeds aren't bad. But I wish at least 2 Mbps while on call... I've never had your issue tho, even after flashing jelly bean. Same radio but perhaps your area is too congested? Or perhaps your APN Settings need to be changed? =\
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Calls are prioritized over data. If you are on a call and the signal strength decreases rapidly or enough data will disconnect to ensure that voice traffic remains at the highest possible quality.
Hmm. Annoying!
Well it's the same phone, same travel areas, very good signal, data just stops working in lots of cases now.
Could be different firmware. But if it was I suspect others would be seeing the problem too which is why I posted.
I used to get quite good data speeds during a voice call as well. I would stream video just fine.
This really kills the ability to use Google Maps/Navigation/Yelp and others while on a call. Which was really the only reason I was still with AT&T.
If I'm really all alone on this I'll try older basebands and see if that improves things.
I am having the same problem
This problem started for me as well on a GSIII. Did you ever find a resolution?
haydonxda said:
This is one of those, "Is anyone else having this problem or is just me?" posts.
Within roughly the last month when I'm on a voice call my data service goes out 80% of the time. This used to be really solid. This was with Yakju ICS with the UGLC1 baseband. I upgraded to stock Jelly Bean in the hopes that this would be fixed and it was a baseband issue. However there was no improvement.
I've had this happen in very good signal areas from Virginia to New York.
Anyone think this is a GN bug? An AT&T conspiracy that no one should be doing simultaneous voice and data to reduce data consumption? Basically WTF?
On to the XXLF1 baseband to see what that does. As I said, all was well up to about a month ago...
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jdukesiii said:
This problem started for me as well on a GSIII. Did you ever find a resolution?
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No resolution though it seems to have improved a little bit since I wrote this.
Since you're seeing this on a different phone I'm guessing this is AT&T mucking around.
Still going on. I suspect this has something to do with the JB update.
Very aggravating to not be able to use maps or other applications while talking.
This is what I hate about Android. So far I've never had an Android device that did all of the BASIC things properly and I've always been chasing "that final fix". It seems Google's bar for a software release is very low.
haydonxda said:
Still going on. I suspect this has something to do with the JB update.
Very aggravating to not be able to use maps or other applications while talking.
This is what I hate about Android. So far I've never had an Android device that did all of the BASIC things properly and I've always been chasing "that final fix". It seems Google's bar for a software release is very low.
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It does it on any phone... once your on a call your data dies down to 2G speeds...
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#Team MiNCO
haydonxda said:
Hmm. Annoying!
Well it's the same phone, same travel areas, very good signal, data just stops working in lots of cases now.
Could be different firmware. But if it was I suspect others would be seeing the problem too which is why I posted.
I used to get quite good data speeds during a voice call as well. I would stream video just fine.
This really kills the ability to use Google Maps/Navigation/Yelp and others while on a call. Which was really the only reason I was still with AT&T.
If I'm really all alone on this I'll try older basebands and see if that improves things.
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any gsm provider (or provider with LTE) can do data while in a call, with gsm your phone needs to be on 3g/H and with cdma you need LTE and to be connected to LTE signal
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It does it on any phone... once your on a call your data dies down to 2G speeds...
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No, I'm not complaining about data being "slower". Many times however I have no data connectivity when on a call. It was working for years up until sometime in the last several months.
haydonxda said:
No, I'm not complaining about data being "slower". Many times however I have no data connectivity when on a call. It was working for years up until sometime in the last several months.
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maybe network congestion?
or at&t could be removing/changing a few towers in your area to LTE?
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maybe network congestion?
or at&t could be removing/changing a few towers in your area to LTE?
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Could be either I guess. I'm in an LTE area. Hard to believe they're throwing this feature under the bus though for people without LTE phones. I can imagine they'd really be cheesing off the iPhone community. I'll see if I can dig up another phone to test.
Annnnd with stock 4.1.2 this is also a problem.
Once data drops while you're on a call it NEVER comes back until the call is completed. And it's only a problem with the GN.
Pro job guys.
This phone has been a big disappointment for me. Camera quality, low volume, and occasionally working voice/data. If they can't get basic crap right who cares about Project Butter?
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Could be either I guess. I'm in an LTE area. Hard to believe they're throwing this feature under the bus though for people without LTE phones. I can imagine they'd really be cheesing off the iPhone community. I'll see if I can dig up another phone to test.
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AT&T LTE phones actually drop back to HSPA when you're on a call, so it would be affecting people with LTE phones as well.
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AT&T LTE phones actually drop back to HSPA when you're on a call, so it would be affecting people with LTE phones as well.
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Out of the phones I have, it's only the GN that's exhibiting this problem. And, in fact, in the past it did not suffer from this problem. Some bug was introduced.
Further follow up... Under less than ideal conditions it looks like the GN (and now Nexus 4 as well) both will drop data entirely until the end of a call. This seems to happen if your connection is bumped down to 2G. During the entire duration of the call the data connection will never be reestablished.
You must end the call to get data back. This happens both on AT&T and T-Mobile networks. I don't know whether this is a GSM/HSPA limitation or a bug in Android. I think it's an Android bug.
Additionally AT&T's simultaneous data speed is throttled back so much it's crazy bad. I found far FEWER drops on T-Mobile because AT&T's network just seems to stink so badly. It's got more holes than Swiss cheese.
Data speeds are also much higher on T-Mobile. Off call they're much higher and on call there's no comparison. T-Mobile isn't throttling data when on a call.
AT&T effectively doesn't support simultaneous voice and data any longer. Their ads are bull. Some more information on it:
http://thesmartphonechamp.com/att-secretly-throttling-their-smartphone-customers-video/
http://www.att.com/Common/about_us/files/pdf/talk_surf_fact_sheet.pdf

Radio question: LTE or no LTE-capable, MSM8960??

So earlier there was confusion whether the T999 had the processor for LTE or was gimped. We've seen conflicting reports from T-Mobile, who claimed it is gimped and doesn't have LTE, but at Target Mobile, the T-Mobile GS3 is advertised as "4G LTE coming soon," and some think the LTE radio is simply disabled. I did the stat check app, and it did list the MSM8960. Has anyone found out the truth yet? CS from T-Mobile told me on the phone its getting LTE via OTA next year.
I believe this screenshot answers your question.
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The T999 does NOT have an LTE radio, or at least it is disabled in microcode (hint: we ain't changing it). Qualcomm can and does have different versions of the S4 family of SOCs identified as an MSM8960. It is more accurate to refer to the SOC as an S4 Plus, which has many different variations, the main differences being modem configurations. The T999 actually has the MSM8260A (using the older terminology), which is basically the MSM8960 without the LTE modem. This can be verified by looking at some getprop parameters. Most software is just going to show you MSM8960, which is the board name/type, etc.
See here for more info: https://developer.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
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I believe this screenshot answers your question.
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how did you get that? So this means our phone might be LTE capable?
how did you get that? So this means our phone might be LTE capable?
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No. Just because it is in a software menu does not mean it is supported in hardware. Try to use it on AT&T LTE, then come back and let us know how that worked out.
Thank you
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No. Just because it is in a software menu does not mean it is supported in hardware. Try to use it on AT&T LTE, then come back and let us know how that worked out.
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Thank you for being such a good helper to people like myself who are roaming the forums trying to learn and understand everything the best that I can. You are very informative, just wanted to point it out to you.
Thanks again,
~Aqua :good:
No problem. I hope you got the information you needed.
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The T999 does NOT have an LTE radio, or at least it is disabled in microcode (hint: we ain't changing it).
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What do you mean "disabled in microcode?" If it is that, could an OTA fix it? I've heard about MSM8960 vs MSM8260a but not only have several T-Mobile reps told me over the phone that that phone will get LTE, but one of their live national sales reps told me it will to my face, and I work at a retailer which sells T-Mobile alongside AT&T and Verizon.
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What do you mean "disabled in microcode?" If it is that, could an OTA fix it? I've heard about MSM8960 vs MSM8260a but not only have several T-Mobile reps told me over the phone that that phone will get LTE, but one of their live national sales reps told me it will to my face, and I work at a retailer which sells T-Mobile alongside AT&T and Verizon.
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I had a Samsung rep at a T-Mobile store (the day I bought the phone) tell me it is LTE capable when T-Mobile flips the switch. So basically take that how you want to. I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but hope that it is true . Would be nice to be one of the first people to actually use T-Mobile's new LTE Advanced Network. Its going to fly!
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I had a Samsung rep at a T-Mobile store (the day I bought the phone) tell me it is LTE capable when T-Mobile flips the switch. So basically take that how you want to. I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but hope that it is true . Would be nice to be one of the first people to actually use T-Mobile's new LTE Advanced Network. Its going to fly!
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not to mention the current version of LTE, 3GPP release 8, isn't technically 4G either, so this is awesome if its true. LTE Advanced is supposed to be the first "true" 4G." These conflicting reports are starting to bother me. But either way, even HSPA+ is far, far better than any regular 3G, especially CDMA 3G, which is snail slow.
the jelly been leak has LTE enabled in it so i think its coming with JB. shows it right in choose network mode.
Look up microcode on Google or read the Wikipedia article. That would be a good start. It is how processors are programmed, and no, an OTA will not change it. FYI, I don't know if that is specifically done with this SOC, I am just saying that features (seemingly hardware features to end users) can be changed with microcode. It may just not have the actual silicon. I don't know. Either way, from our perspective, it doesn't have an LTE radio.
The T-Mobile reps are wrong, at least for the phone that was just released. Simple as that. Now, there could be a hardware version update, or subsequent newer model released with the LTE radio. Certainly is possible, though it would likely have a slightly different model number, or be easily identifiable some other way.
I know you guys want the T999 to have an LTE radio. But, no matter how much you want it, that won't change the facts. The phone we have now doesn't have it. It's just one of those things that we will have to wait and see. Then we can come back and say, told you so. In fact, there is a JB update out now for the T999. Why doesn't someone flash that and try it out? Seriously, out of all the T999 phones sold, do you know ANYONE using LTE on it, whether on AT&T or elsewhere? If you do, please tell him/her to speak up. Think about it. Surely someone on these boards is an AT&T customer with a T999. It's not going to be "enabled" with an OTA...
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the jelly been leak has LTE enabled in it so i think its coming with JB. shows it right in choose network mode.
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The other person had a screenshot of this too. Just because it's there doesn't mean the hardware supports it. Why would it come with Jellybean when T-Mobile's LTE network won't even be out for months, maybe even a full year at the rate their refarming is going? And why would it even be ENABLED?
Also, everyone needs to STOP LISTENING to reps. Reps don't know anything more than most people who can use Google.
Also, everyone needs to STOP LISTENING to reps. Reps don't know anything more than most people who can use Google.
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This has certainly been my experience, and is not limited to just T-Mobile. I had one rep tell me with a straight face that the OS on a Galaxy S Blaze 4G was not in fact Android, but rather a custom OS and skin designed by Samsung...lol Yeah...sort of... And there was the time that one swore up and down that GSM (2G old school GSM, not UMTS/HSPA) was superior to CDMA...for reasons he could not possibly explain except to say that...well it must be better since the rest of the world uses it.
Don't get me wrong, I know there are some bright and knowledgeable reps working for T-Mobile and others.
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Don't get me wrong, I know there are some bright and knowledgeable reps working for T-Mobile and others.
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Of course there are, but by and by, most reps don't know **** about anything.
could it be that T-Mobile's version of LTE Advanced will be compatible with whatever is inside the T999? This isn't just one rep who's told me its gonna have LTE, but several both live and on the phone.
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could it be that T-Mobile's version of LTE Advanced will be compatible with whatever is inside the T999? This isn't just one rep who's told me its gonna have LTE, but several both live and on the phone.
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No. It just isn't going to happen, and their LTE Advanced network is a long time away.
If several people live and on the phone told you to jump off of a bridge, would you do it? Not to mention the fact that most of their phone reps are outsourced call centers that also know nothing.
not sure if it matters but a friend of mine used his upgrade to get the s3 on att. now I'm not sure what they claim or if there phone is different than out tmob version but i can say that i did hold his phone and ran a speed test while the icon in the status bar showed LTE, it maxed at about 36meg d/l. later that night at one of our other friends house the icon showed 4G so i ran speedtest again and it stayed between 11meg to about 18meg. reading one of the above comments about the att version just got me thinking about that so i figured id tell what ive seen hoping it would help in any way
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could it be that T-Mobile's version of LTE Advanced will be compatible with whatever is inside the T999? This isn't just one rep who's told me its gonna have LTE, but several both live and on the phone.
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No. Whatever it is inside the T999 is not LTE. So, no version of LTE will be compatible with it. I understand optimism, but wow... No joke, the T-Mobile Galaxy S3 does not have LTE. I wouldn't be so disappointed though since HSPA is no slouch and still has a bit of room to grow. I actually think the approach T-Mobile took with their network advancements makes a lot of sense. Not saying it is the best marketing strategy.
Seriously, there are people on this forum that have the T999 on AT&T. No LTE. Just find them, ask them, confirm. And no, it is not coming in an OTA. It will only come in a different version of the phone (quite possible). The phone you have in your hand now will not magically be updated to LTE. While UMTS/HSPA and LTE are actually not as different as most may think (same standards family, both decedents of GSM), they are still different and require specific hardware. There are technical differences.
FYI, the AT&T version of the phone IS different than the T999, that's why he gets LTE.
To the guy that took a screenshot. Look! It says CDMA! I can use this on Sprint and Verizon then right?!?!?!? :thumbdown:
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Sprint gawd! !!!!!!!!!

Just got done talking to sprint over the community and the signal issue many people are having trouble with they said I need to get my phone run through diagnostics for antenna malfunction which I think is b.s. cause my phones are acting up my sister in laws LG Machs are doing the same as well as my friends s5s and s4s so its obviously a problem connected to there towers and the way I see it they need to start getting everything done right otherwise I'm headed to verizon
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Just got done talking to sprint over the community and the signal issue many people are having trouble with they said I need to get my phone run through diagnostics for antenna malfunction which I think is b.s. cause my phones are acting up my sister in laws LG Machs are doing the same as well as my friends s5s and s4s so its obviously a problem connected to there towers and the way I see it they need to start getting everything done right otherwise I'm headed to verizon
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My Sprint S3 is on KitKat 4.4.2 ND8 and my mobile data isn't stable. 4G/3G keeps disconnecting and reconnecting.
Same here, MrrD.
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same
Opposite here, guess it depends on your area. Mine is better than ever but right before the 4.4 update it was horrid. I think they're trying to overhaul their network now so it might be shaky for a bit.
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Sprint is updating its network vision for your area. We're sorry for the inconvenience.
This is all I ever hear out of those outsourced folks from India.
also, in california, my 4g and 3g always alternate depending on which part of town im at. Its rediculous.
Never had the data issues when I was on stock 4.1.2.
For me, a solution that is temporary may be leaving mobile data on, don't turn it off. Power phone off and power on again. Wait for data to connect.
I did that and my data seemed to be stable, but if you turn your data off and leave it off for a while and turn it on again, it'll become unstable again.
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Never had the data issues when I was on stock 4.1.2.
For me, a solution that is temporary may be leaving mobile data on, don't turn it off. Power phone off and power on again. Wait for data to connect.
I did that and my data seemed to be stable, but if you turn your data off and leave it off for a while and turn it on again, it'll become unstable again.
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My data on kit Kat is better than ever. 4.3 was horrible and 4.1.2 was pretty good
I'll also bet they are doing tower upgrades. Be patient sprint is overall the best.
If you go to Verizon you may have a good signal but it's will cost you about 30% more in cost and you'll constantly have to
Monitor your data.
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Never had the data issues when I was on stock 4.1.2.
For me, a solution that is temporary may be leaving mobile data on, don't turn it off. Power phone off and power on again. Wait for data to connect.
I did that and my data seemed to be stable, but if you turn your data off and leave it off for a while and turn it on again, it'll become unstable again.
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Maybe that's why they removed the data toggle from the notifications?
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and see this is what im talking about they think they know it all they think its a antenna malfunction but its not just me and were im at i see so many people responding to this thread and having simular problems but they dont want to beleieve me when i have been around since the start of android phones and they just have no brains i swear
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and see this is what im talking about they think they know it all they think its a antenna malfunction but its not just me and were im at i see so many people responding to this thread and having simular problems but they dont want to beleieve me when i have been around since the start of android phones and they just have no brains i swear
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So how do you really feel? ?
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how do i really feel we got too many ignorant aliens working at sprint that dont know a lick of anything about android and there towers i think its the fact they need to get some true americans like us here at xda to work for them at least the people here know what there doing and know how to fix it
i had better data on 4.3 then kitkat smdh
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how do i really feel we got too many ignorant aliens working at sprint that dont know a lick of anything about android and there towers i think its the fact they need to get some true americans like us here at xda to work for them at least the people here know what there doing and know how to fix it
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When I call customer service I get connected with an office in Shreveport where I speak to Americans. Sorry to inform you that they're typically not any more knowledgeable than the people you're referring to. The good thing is that I get to speak to people at all. When I was on AT&T that was often an incredibly difficult thing to do. The last time I spoke with Sprint's customer service, it was in regards to how horrible my cell signal is at my house. The lady told me that they were indeed updating their system in my area and were expecting it to be 100% completed in the first part of June. I'm waiting to see how that goes before complaining any further.
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When I call customer service I get connected with an office in Shreveport where I speak to Americans. Sorry to inform you that they're typically not any more knowledgeable than the people you're referring to. The good thing is that I get to speak to people at all. When I was on AT&T that was often an incredibly difficult thing to do. The last time I spoke with Sprint's customer service, it was in regards to how horrible my cell signal is at my house. The lady told me that they were indeed updating their system in my area and were expecting it to be 100% completed in the first part of June. I'm waiting to see how that goes before complaining any further.
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Hahahaha. Yeah that's the story I've heard for the last 2 years. Sprint LTE is a joke. I regularly get sub 10k speeds with 4G connection. Enter a building and it's back to 1x. Come July I have 2 GS3s for sale and it's buhbye Sprint after 10+ years of broken promises.
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Hahahaha. Yeah that's the story I've heard for the last 2 years. Sprint LTE is a joke. I regularly get sub 10k speeds with 4G connection. Enter a building and it's back to 1x. Come July I have 2 GS3s for sale and it's buhbye Sprint after 10+ years of broken promises.
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Must be location related. I live in the middle of nowhere, in a forest nonetheless, and in my house I get 1 bar of 3G. On my back porch I get 2 bars of LTE, but in town I get full LTE. It's slightly less signal than I got at home on AT&T but then I was paying almost twice as much for only 2 gigs of data. But, I suppose the grass is always greener... :sly:
Just updated to 4.4 and data connection seems to be stable. When I was on 4.3 the past 3 weeks it would shift to 3G a few times but I think Sprint is upgrading our towers. On 4.4 its gone down a few times to 3G but I'm banking on the Towers.
Ive been on 4.4.2 for a few weeks now and my devices ability to hold onto a signal has gone down considerably. Previously I had to roam at my house. (We live in the country) Now a lot of time I have no signal at all! There's nothing to be done about it so I just use wifi and don't worry about it.
My data keeps going from 4GLTE to 3G no matter where I go unless I reboot my phone.

Sprint Note 4 running on AT&T ???

Hi guys i have been skimming this forum for years learning to root different phones and tablets, but only as a guest.
Today i had my sprint note 4 successfully unlocked and it now runs on AT&T through straight talk.
I am getting 10 times better service signal and data wise with hspa over sprints horrible 3g service in Virginia.
Anyway i am happy with everything, but i have a question. I have cross referenced the specs between the att, tmobile, verizon and sprint variants of the note 4 and all show they have the same bands available, what are the chances that someone has gotten AT&T true 4g lte working on a sprint branded phone, is it possible and if not why?.
Thanks in advance
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If this is true. Good. Lots are speculating no data on the other variants while on the sprint note 4. So are you complete domestic unlocked or just unlocked for international. ?
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Complete domestic unlock, able to use any mvno for AT&T or TMobile, im using straight talks AT&T network personally. Here is pics of my status, i have wifi on here at home is why it says data not connected, but im getting 7.9mb/s dl on hspa consistently
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How were you able to unlock the sprint note 4?
http://idoneapps.webs.com/sprint-galaxy-global-unlock
Was recommended by another member on here, dude from this sight rooted and did the complete unlock remotely for me for 50 bucks. Cant beat it at all! Great customer service and the guy literally answered like 40 emails back and forth of questions i had before i even paid him.
Cant express how happy i am to actually be able to use my note 4 as intended. It was a paperweight with sprint service.
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And here is an updated screenshot of my status without wifi to show i am getting data
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Thanks for your kind words guys. Yes I am doing these 12 hours a day.
You get Unlocked, debranded, MSL read and WiFi Hotspot and USB Tethering enabled.
I look forward to hearing from you, and I am easy to get in contact with
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Thanks for your kind words guys. Yes I am doing these 12 hours a day.
You get Unlocked, debranded, MSL read and WiFi Hotspot and USB Tethering enabled.
I look forward to hearing from you, and I am easy to get in contact with
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So I'm unlocked with gt too. I am still needing further help or no? Thanks.
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Yes thanks.
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Complete domestic unlock, able to use any mvno for AT&T or TMobile, im using straight talks AT&T network personally. Here is pics of my status, i have wifi on here at home is why it says data not connected, but im getting 7.9mb/s dl on hspa consistently View attachment 3398820View attachment 3398821
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Hspa is good enough for me . Where i live at in Chicago it's miles faster than spark on sprint
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Hspa is good enough for me . Where i live at in Chicago it's miles faster than spark on sprint
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Same hear where i live we havent even gotten 4g at all, sprint doesnt have a native network and rely off a local cell provider, they have been promising me 4g since 2013. My phone was a brick until i unlocked it and moved to straught talk, couldnt be happier
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Same hear where i live we havent even gotten 4g at all, sprint doesnt have a native network and rely off a local cell provider, they have been promising me 4g since 2013. My phone was a brick until i unlocked it and moved to straught talk, couldnt be happier
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Its really 3g to be honest. They got me
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Its really 3g to be honest. They got me
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Well this is att straight talk hspa on my unlocked sprint note 4. The 28mbps one was wifi. The 5mbps one was while driving the other two are stationary
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I unlocked mine with a z3x box but I am currently unable to get HSPA or 4g, only 3g with at&t gophone. Any clue as to what is different between our devices? I have the sprint variant as well.
j.brown419 said:
I unlocked mine with a z3x box but I am currently unable to get HSPA or 4g, only 3g with at&t gophone. Any clue as to what is different between our devices? I have the sprint variant as well.
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Try the nv item edit ie use nv calculator, qpst/qxdm, enable extra gsm/umts/lte bands. Then set your apn up with LTE or unspecified as bearer
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Try the nv item edit ie use nv calculator, qpst/qxdm, enable extra gsm/umts/lte bands. Then set your apn up with LTE or unspecified as bearer
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My phone wont allow me to edit nv with qpst/qdxm, it fails like 16% through.
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My phone wont allow me to edit nv with qpst/qdxm, it fails like 16% through.
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there may be something wrong with your modem. I would suggest resetting modem changes and provisioning with a reset + ##786# + ##72786#, etc and put everything back to stock and start over. ..all just a suggestion as I am fairly sure that is the best you'll get out of the Note 4 (N910P)
you may want to go to frequencycheck and make sure the bands your attempting are even a possibility ...https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...n920p-galaxy-note-5-td-lte-32gb-samsung-noble
idone said:
Thanks for your kind words guys. Yes I am doing these 12 hours a day.
You get Unlocked, debranded, MSL read and WiFi Hotspot and USB Tethering enabled.
I look forward to hearing from you, and I am easy to get in contact with
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BRO WTF i used your app and it uninstalled my root access and could not access the superuser menu built into my phone. I was forced to restore an earlier backup and lost mad amounts of data
j.brown419 said:
I unlocked mine with a z3x box but I am currently unable to get HSPA or 4g, only 3g with at&t gophone. Any clue as to what is different between our devices? I have the sprint variant as well.
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May be your sim card. Is it a 4g sim?
Also make sure your apn is correct. Check this: https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KB424489
I am getting true 4G LTE through straight talk on my Sprint note edge. I used idoneapps to unlock it. Enabled ehrpd, enabled lte, and set 1x to hybrid. After restart I went to apn settings and selected automatic and used the straight talk apn that my lte Sim card came with. I am using a Sim card I got from a zte straight talk phone, not the Sim card packpack.

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