So earlier there was confusion whether the T999 had the processor for LTE or was gimped. We've seen conflicting reports from T-Mobile, who claimed it is gimped and doesn't have LTE, but at Target Mobile, the T-Mobile GS3 is advertised as "4G LTE coming soon," and some think the LTE radio is simply disabled. I did the stat check app, and it did list the MSM8960. Has anyone found out the truth yet? CS from T-Mobile told me on the phone its getting LTE via OTA next year.
I believe this screenshot answers your question.
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The T999 does NOT have an LTE radio, or at least it is disabled in microcode (hint: we ain't changing it). Qualcomm can and does have different versions of the S4 family of SOCs identified as an MSM8960. It is more accurate to refer to the SOC as an S4 Plus, which has many different variations, the main differences being modem configurations. The T999 actually has the MSM8260A (using the older terminology), which is basically the MSM8960 without the LTE modem. This can be verified by looking at some getprop parameters. Most software is just going to show you MSM8960, which is the board name/type, etc.
See here for more info: https://developer.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
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I believe this screenshot answers your question.
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how did you get that? So this means our phone might be LTE capable?
how did you get that? So this means our phone might be LTE capable?
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No. Just because it is in a software menu does not mean it is supported in hardware. Try to use it on AT&T LTE, then come back and let us know how that worked out.
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No. Just because it is in a software menu does not mean it is supported in hardware. Try to use it on AT&T LTE, then come back and let us know how that worked out.
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Thank you for being such a good helper to people like myself who are roaming the forums trying to learn and understand everything the best that I can. You are very informative, just wanted to point it out to you.
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No problem. I hope you got the information you needed.
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The T999 does NOT have an LTE radio, or at least it is disabled in microcode (hint: we ain't changing it).
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What do you mean "disabled in microcode?" If it is that, could an OTA fix it? I've heard about MSM8960 vs MSM8260a but not only have several T-Mobile reps told me over the phone that that phone will get LTE, but one of their live national sales reps told me it will to my face, and I work at a retailer which sells T-Mobile alongside AT&T and Verizon.
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What do you mean "disabled in microcode?" If it is that, could an OTA fix it? I've heard about MSM8960 vs MSM8260a but not only have several T-Mobile reps told me over the phone that that phone will get LTE, but one of their live national sales reps told me it will to my face, and I work at a retailer which sells T-Mobile alongside AT&T and Verizon.
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I had a Samsung rep at a T-Mobile store (the day I bought the phone) tell me it is LTE capable when T-Mobile flips the switch. So basically take that how you want to. I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but hope that it is true . Would be nice to be one of the first people to actually use T-Mobile's new LTE Advanced Network. Its going to fly!
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I had a Samsung rep at a T-Mobile store (the day I bought the phone) tell me it is LTE capable when T-Mobile flips the switch. So basically take that how you want to. I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but hope that it is true . Would be nice to be one of the first people to actually use T-Mobile's new LTE Advanced Network. Its going to fly!
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not to mention the current version of LTE, 3GPP release 8, isn't technically 4G either, so this is awesome if its true. LTE Advanced is supposed to be the first "true" 4G." These conflicting reports are starting to bother me. But either way, even HSPA+ is far, far better than any regular 3G, especially CDMA 3G, which is snail slow.
the jelly been leak has LTE enabled in it so i think its coming with JB. shows it right in choose network mode.
Look up microcode on Google or read the Wikipedia article. That would be a good start. It is how processors are programmed, and no, an OTA will not change it. FYI, I don't know if that is specifically done with this SOC, I am just saying that features (seemingly hardware features to end users) can be changed with microcode. It may just not have the actual silicon. I don't know. Either way, from our perspective, it doesn't have an LTE radio.
The T-Mobile reps are wrong, at least for the phone that was just released. Simple as that. Now, there could be a hardware version update, or subsequent newer model released with the LTE radio. Certainly is possible, though it would likely have a slightly different model number, or be easily identifiable some other way.
I know you guys want the T999 to have an LTE radio. But, no matter how much you want it, that won't change the facts. The phone we have now doesn't have it. It's just one of those things that we will have to wait and see. Then we can come back and say, told you so. In fact, there is a JB update out now for the T999. Why doesn't someone flash that and try it out? Seriously, out of all the T999 phones sold, do you know ANYONE using LTE on it, whether on AT&T or elsewhere? If you do, please tell him/her to speak up. Think about it. Surely someone on these boards is an AT&T customer with a T999. It's not going to be "enabled" with an OTA...
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the jelly been leak has LTE enabled in it so i think its coming with JB. shows it right in choose network mode.
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The other person had a screenshot of this too. Just because it's there doesn't mean the hardware supports it. Why would it come with Jellybean when T-Mobile's LTE network won't even be out for months, maybe even a full year at the rate their refarming is going? And why would it even be ENABLED?
Also, everyone needs to STOP LISTENING to reps. Reps don't know anything more than most people who can use Google.
Also, everyone needs to STOP LISTENING to reps. Reps don't know anything more than most people who can use Google.
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This has certainly been my experience, and is not limited to just T-Mobile. I had one rep tell me with a straight face that the OS on a Galaxy S Blaze 4G was not in fact Android, but rather a custom OS and skin designed by Samsung...lol Yeah...sort of... And there was the time that one swore up and down that GSM (2G old school GSM, not UMTS/HSPA) was superior to CDMA...for reasons he could not possibly explain except to say that...well it must be better since the rest of the world uses it.
Don't get me wrong, I know there are some bright and knowledgeable reps working for T-Mobile and others.
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Don't get me wrong, I know there are some bright and knowledgeable reps working for T-Mobile and others.
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Of course there are, but by and by, most reps don't know **** about anything.
could it be that T-Mobile's version of LTE Advanced will be compatible with whatever is inside the T999? This isn't just one rep who's told me its gonna have LTE, but several both live and on the phone.
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could it be that T-Mobile's version of LTE Advanced will be compatible with whatever is inside the T999? This isn't just one rep who's told me its gonna have LTE, but several both live and on the phone.
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No. It just isn't going to happen, and their LTE Advanced network is a long time away.
If several people live and on the phone told you to jump off of a bridge, would you do it? Not to mention the fact that most of their phone reps are outsourced call centers that also know nothing.
not sure if it matters but a friend of mine used his upgrade to get the s3 on att. now I'm not sure what they claim or if there phone is different than out tmob version but i can say that i did hold his phone and ran a speed test while the icon in the status bar showed LTE, it maxed at about 36meg d/l. later that night at one of our other friends house the icon showed 4G so i ran speedtest again and it stayed between 11meg to about 18meg. reading one of the above comments about the att version just got me thinking about that so i figured id tell what ive seen hoping it would help in any way
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could it be that T-Mobile's version of LTE Advanced will be compatible with whatever is inside the T999? This isn't just one rep who's told me its gonna have LTE, but several both live and on the phone.
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No. Whatever it is inside the T999 is not LTE. So, no version of LTE will be compatible with it. I understand optimism, but wow... No joke, the T-Mobile Galaxy S3 does not have LTE. I wouldn't be so disappointed though since HSPA is no slouch and still has a bit of room to grow. I actually think the approach T-Mobile took with their network advancements makes a lot of sense. Not saying it is the best marketing strategy.
Seriously, there are people on this forum that have the T999 on AT&T. No LTE. Just find them, ask them, confirm. And no, it is not coming in an OTA. It will only come in a different version of the phone (quite possible). The phone you have in your hand now will not magically be updated to LTE. While UMTS/HSPA and LTE are actually not as different as most may think (same standards family, both decedents of GSM), they are still different and require specific hardware. There are technical differences.
FYI, the AT&T version of the phone IS different than the T999, that's why he gets LTE.
To the guy that took a screenshot. Look! It says CDMA! I can use this on Sprint and Verizon then right?!?!?!? :thumbdown:
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I'm getting rid of my G2 and wanna get a new phone. I just started working for ATT so im thinking of leaving tmo. If I stay on tmo ill get the Hercules next month( a sgs2 variant) and if i go att ill just get the sgs2.. what do you all suggest? Phone wise or company wise... im kinda straddling the fence on this one
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I'm getting rid of my G2 and wanna get a new phone. I just started working for ATT so im thinking of leaving tmo. If I stay on tmo ill get the Hercules next month( a sgs2 variant) and if i go att ill just get the sgs2.. what do you all suggest? Phone wise or company wise... im kinda straddling the fence on this one
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Well it depends on your coverage in your area. But since you are working for att i suggest you go with the sgs2 from att. But if your att service is bad in your area stick with tmo
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Well i know att has 4g here and so does tmo but even on 4g with tmo i've never had faster than 3mb/s i'm lucky if i can even hit 2. Idk what it's like with att tho
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Well i know att has 4g here and so does tmo but even on 4g with tmo i've never had faster than 3mb/s i'm lucky if i can even hit 2. Idk what it's like with att tho
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np, dont forget to change your carrier in xda to ATT lol
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Well i know att has 4g here and so does tmo but even on 4g with tmo i've never had faster than 3mb/s i'm lucky if i can even hit 2. Idk what it's like with att tho
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has this adversely affected your experience with the phone, or were you just expecting more?
I don't even pay attention to down/up speeds anymore... they only serve to make you envious of other people with higher data transfer rates for no reason. if the phone is working well and web functions are performed at an acceptable speed for you, who cares?
have fun with those ATT overages @ 2GB data.
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has this adversely affected your experience with the phone, or were you just expecting more?
I don't even pay attention to down/up speeds anymore... they only serve to make you envious of other people with higher data transfer rates for no reason. if the phone is working well and web functions are performed at an acceptable speed for you, who cares?
have fun with those ATT overages @ 2GB data.
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Ya I am the same. 10 mb/s and 2 mb/s all feel the same when your actually using the phone and not running speed tests. And down with att. We are headed to sprint the instant the merger goes through. Att is the devil (along with visionary).
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have fun with those ATT overages @ 2GB data.
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This. And even with an AT&T employee discount your bill will probably be more than an EM+ Plan on T-mobile lol.
If you're complaining about 3mbps down on T-mobile, you're in for a big surprise on AT&T lol. AT&T hasn't even come close to pushing out any large number of HSDPA sites, and only somewhat has HSUPA in affect. Not like it matters though, any AT&T branded phone's firmware is restricting those speeds anyways. Everyone does better in different areas so whatever works for you is best I suppose, I just find it hard to believe you're going to be getting better speeds on AT&T than T-mo.
3mbps down is more than enough to handle any normal stuff you're doing on your phone.
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This. And even with an AT&T employee discount your bill will probably be more than an EM+ Plan on T-mobile lol.
If you're complaining about 3mbps down on T-mobile, you're in for a big surprise on AT&T lol. AT&T hasn't even come close to pushing out any large number of HSDPA sites, and only somewhat has HSUPA in affect. Not like it matters though, any AT&T branded phone's firmware is restricting those speeds anyways. Everyone does better in different areas so whatever works for you is best I suppose, I just find it hard to believe you're going to be getting better speeds on AT&T than T-mo.
3mbps down is more than enough to handle any normal stuff you're doing on your phone.
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US carriers tsk tsk tsk... CANADIAN CARIERS FTW!
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US carriers tsk tsk tsk... CANADIAN CARIERS FTW!
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Canadian carriers suck just as much. Overpriced and insufficent plans compared to the states, or anywhere else for that matter =p
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I'm getting rid of my G2 and wanna get a new phone. I just started working for ATT so im thinking of leaving tmo. If I stay on tmo ill get the Hercules next month( a sgs2 variant) and if i go att ill just get the sgs2.. what do you all suggest? Phone wise or company wise... im kinda straddling the fence on this one
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if you are working for AT&T you will probably get free plans, or very discounted plan, with no data as usual
either way you go, you have SGS2 to choose from
Hercules is SGS2, it's lazered into the back cover
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lol you're funny.
Wait, are you serious?
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Canadian carriers suck just as much. Overpriced and insufficent plans compared to the states, or anywhere else for that matter =p
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exactly what i was gonna say. my jaw dropped when a canadian is dissing the US carriers haha
theyre all in it to rape our wallets guys...nature of the beast. canada HAS gotten better, except they all still believe in 3 year contracts, which is complete BS imo. BUT the CRTC last year also ruled to implement early contract termination fees cannot exceed a max of $400, it used to be $20 a month for every month remaining in your contract....do the math on that!
all dissing aside, bell still rapes on data overages, rogers doesnt really give two ****s about overages, and telus just likes to charge you whatever the heck they feel like that month.
rogers right now is almost on par with some of our american counterparts, i have a family share plan with them, 800 mins with evenings and wknds start at 4pm, nationwide fav 10 for each device, unltd txt/pic/vid, unltd social networking data, 4gb data shared, call id/vm all that jazz for 128 tax in a month for the two devices. seperatly we used to pay over 160 combined. so its slowly getting better we just need new devices! canadas providers are soooo slooow to get the new toys.
my .02...and ive been with all the big 3
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Hercules! Hercules! Hercules!
I'm sorry ... I couldn't help myself
Also US is in a MAJOR Defecit while Canada is in a very minor defecit, soon all the us carriers could move to canada with the fear of the US defaulting again lol
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Also US is in a MAJOR Defecit while Canada is in a very minor defecit, soon all the us carriers could move to canada with the fear of the US defaulting again lol
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oh god... gtfo we don't need Canada/US battles. Seriously. Canada also has a smaller population than some of our states. A little different.
But you really must be high if you think that the Canadian carriers are treating consumers well... they're in the same boat as the US carriers. Neither of us are in the good carrier position that the European countries are in.
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Neither of us are in the good carrier position that the European countries are in.
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Or Japan for that matter. In Japan they don't even use laptops. Everything is done on their phones, credit transactions, vending machine purchase, everything... Plus the nation wide wi-fi coverage too.
It's a huge plus if you don't mind glowing from radiation.
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Or Japan for that matter. In Japan they don't even use laptops. Everything is done on their phones, credit transactions, vending machine purchase, everything... Plus the nation wide wi-fi coverage too.
It's a huge plus if you don't mind glowing from radiation.
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that's exactly where we are heading as well
i've been in this motto since the first smartphone was produced by Palm
and now the top of the iceberg is the Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989 (Hercules), true quad bands on 3G and 2G as well as 4G, although we all know that is not really a true 4G not even LTE is true 4G but heck, since all the marketing says so, lets stick with it. LOL
check out the new hands on for the Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989 (Hercules)
I did a SIM card check on Surfing Dino's SIM info app, and this phone does have a SIM card. We know that the other Galaxy S3s have GSM capabilities, and Verizon is releasing an OTA soon to allow global roaming. While Sprint's SIM is embedded, it wouldn't be too hard to access it with a knife and cut the plastic, or order a backpiece of ebay. Can someone work on, or is someone working on finding a way to hack this, or verify if the Sprint version could be hacked to support a GSM update? I heard someone hacked the Verizon Galaxy Nexus to do this.
I'd love to take my GS3 around the world and sell my Photon.
The Sprint version's SIM card is for LTE.
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The Sprint version's SIM card is for LTE.
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I know that, and I know SIM cards are why Verizon has them in their 4G LTE phones. But as Verizon is releasing an update to the Rezound, Spectrum, Razr (reg. and Maxx), and their version of the Galaxy S3, I'd assume the SIM card function in both Sprint and Verizon Galaxy S3's is the same inside the US, as they're both CDMA carriers.
What I wanna know is if the SIM card could possibly be taken out, replaced with a foreign SIM and put back in if a hack could be developed to allow GSM use/roaming on the Sprint Galaxy S3.
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I know that, and I know SIM cards are why Verizon has them in their 4G LTE phones. But as Verizon is releasing an update to the Rezound, Spectrum, Razr (reg. and Maxx), and their version of the Galaxy S3, I'd assume the SIM card function in both Sprint and Verizon Galaxy S3's is the same inside the US, as they're both CDMA carriers.
What I wanna know is if the SIM card could possibly be taken out, replaced with a foreign SIM and put back in if a hack could be developed to allow GSM use/roaming on the Sprint Galaxy S3.
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its different from a SIM card even tho it looks exactly like one. It only has the network info required to use lte for that particular provider. The contents of those chips arent modifiable
I know, but I mean if a firmware hack which could enable GSM roaming when the Sprint SIM is out would b possible, also to see if the Sprint SIM is welded to the thing or not
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I know, but I mean if a firmware hack which could enable GSM roaming when the Sprint SIM is out would b possible, also to see if the Sprint SIM is welded to the thing or not
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Not "welded" soldered.. lol
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Dont count on it and this should have been in the general section.
There is no removable sim in the sprint galaxy s3. I repair phone for a living. There is a component on the board that controls the radio frequencies.
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This phone doesn't have a gsm radio, correct?
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This phone doesn't have a gsm radio, correct?
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As far as I know, no. And "enabling" it would be impossible because we only have an embedded LTE SIM; even if we could desolder it a regular GSM SIM wouldn't work (at least from what I understand).
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Dont count on it and this should have been in the general section.
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^^^
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As far as I know, no. And "enabling" it would be impossible because we only have an embedded LTE SIM; even if we could desolder it a regular GSM SIM wouldn't work (at least from what I understand).
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how do you know its soldered? A Sprint rep told me on the phone, for what thats worth, that if something went wrong with the SIM I could take it to a Sprint store and have it fixed, and I doubt a Sprint store has soldering equipment.
The Sprint Galaxy S III does not have a GSM radio to enable anyway. The SIM is for LTE, even replacing it with a GSM SIM card wouldn't do anything but stop your LTE from working.
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The Sprint Galaxy S III does not have a GSM radio to enable anyway. The SIM is for LTE, even replacing it with a GSM SIM card wouldn't do anything but stop your LTE from working.
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I wanna know if one could hack it with a GSM ROM/radio like they did with Verizon's Galaxy Nexus. Thats what this thread is about.
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how do you know its soldered? A Sprint rep told me on the phone, for what thats worth, that if something went wrong with the SIM I could take it to a Sprint store and have it fixed, and I doubt a Sprint store has soldering equipment.
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soldering equipment? you mean a soldering iron?
why do you want to go through all this trouble? if you want a gsm phone so bad go to att or tmo
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soldering equipment? you mean a soldering iron?
why do you want to go through all this trouble? if you want a gsm phone so bad go to att or tmo
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It would be nice to have if you ever travel out of the US
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All the chipsets are the same for all US S3s, so they all theoretically have the ability to support GSM. However, they need power amplifiers and antennas to hook into that capability of the chipset, and no one knows whether or not Sprint's version of the S3 has those things, and I'm not an engineer so I wouldn't know where to begin to try and figure it out. I don't particularly want to void the warranty on my phone, so I haven't taken off the back cover and don't know if the SIM is actually embedded (soldered onto the board) or is just non-user accessible.
We know the VZW model has this capability because they tested it when it was going through the FCC, in addition they said it would. In the larger picture the reason that it has this ability is related to restrictions placed on Verizon due to the spectrum they purchased which prevents them from locking down their phones. Sprint, as far as I know, has no such restrictions/requirements placed upon it and thus, other than just because I really would like it to be possible, it isn't likely that that capability is built into the phone and, even if it is, I doubt we'll ever get access to a radio that would allow us to take advantage of it. I'd love it if anyone had more information on this though, I'd kill to use my phone abroad.
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All the chipsets are the same for all US S3s, so they all theoretically have the ability to support GSM. However, they need power amplifiers and antennas to hook into that capability of the chipset, and no one knows whether or not Sprint's version of the S3 has those things, and I'm not an engineer so I wouldn't know where to begin to try and figure it out. I don't particularly want to void the warranty on my phone, so I haven't taken off the back cover and don't know if the SIM is actually embedded (soldered onto the board) or is just non-user accessible.
We know the VZW model has this capability because they tested it when it was going through the FCC, in addition they said it would. In the larger picture the reason that it has this ability is related to restrictions placed on Verizon due to the spectrum they purchased which prevents them from locking down their phones. Sprint, as far as I know, has no such restrictions/requirements placed upon it and thus, other than just because I really would like it to be possible, it isn't likely that that capability is built into the phone and, even if it is, I doubt we'll ever get access to a radio that would allow us to take advantage of it. I'd love it if anyone had more information on this though, I'd kill to use my phone abroad.
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If others would be willing to donate, I would be willing to donate too, to get a teardown of the phone to see about this. Why Sprint would ever let one of the biggest sellers of the year go without a HUGE selling point, I don't know. I do also wonder, would Samsung spend the money when manufacturing them to make hundreds of thousands, if not millions of phones substantially different and cut into their margins when the carrier can lock it down anyway?
why do you want to go through all this trouble? if you want a gsm phone so bad go to att or tmo
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Or I want the Sprint pricing, unlimited, LTE (which T-Mobile's not gonna have for some time), but flexibility and to be able to take the phone I paid over 600+ for abroad.
Okay. I for one do believe it would be possible but I'm not willing to disassemble my S3. I know from past experience that Verizon's slot used by their LTE slot is nothing more than a standard SIM slot. I know this because I've radio hacked the Bionic to use on AT&T and people have done the same for the Razr. The Qualcomm MSM radio chip when hacked with RadioComm which I happen to have a copy of allowed me to enable AT&T freq. I've done the same with the Droid 2 Global and Droid 3. The Droid 4 is also able to as well I believe. Qualcomm manufactures the radios, not the providers and not Samsung. Therefore the functions are there do use GSM freq. Whether or not the phone actually have the slot is a different story and until I see pictures of a Sprint S3 with the slot then I'm going to assume it doesn't.
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Okay. I for one do believe it would be possible but I'm not willing to disassemble my S3. I know from past experience that Verizon's slot used by their LTE slot is nothing more than a standard SIM slot. I know this because I've radio hacked the Bionic to use on AT&T and people have done the same for the Razr. The Qualcomm MSM radio chip when hacked with RadioComm which I happen to have a copy of allowed me to enable AT&T freq. I've done the same with the Droid 2 Global and Droid 3. The Droid 4 is also able to as well I believe. Qualcomm manufactures the radios, not the providers and not Samsung. Therefore the functions are there do use GSM freq. Whether or not the phone actually have the slot is a different story and until I see pictures of a Sprint S3 with the slot then I'm going to assume it doesn't.
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http://www.globaldirectparts.com/PhotoDetails.asp?ShowDESC=N&ProductCode=SMSNG6116840 there's a picture of the SIM slot
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In conclusion, is it valid to say that the T-Mobiles Note 2 LTE Radio is more capable than AT&T's version?
When T-Mobile Enables Support for LTE on Note 2, can it be used with AT&T LTE for full 4G LTE speeds?
Does the Unlocked T-Mobile Note 2 work with AT&T's Proper LTE?
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In conclusion, is it valid to say that the T-Mobiles Note 2 LTE Radio is more capable than AT&T's version?
When T-Mobile Enables Support for LTE on Note 2, can it be used with AT&T LTE for full 4G LTE speeds?
Does the Unlocked T-Mobile Note 2 work with AT&T's Proper LTE?
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T889 gets HSPA+ on T-Mobile & HSPA+ on AT&T (no LTE anywhere)
I317 gets LTE on AT&T and EDGE on T-Mobile (not sure if it actually gets HSPA+ on the new T-Mobile 1900 Band... ) anyone else can elaborate?
Any Hybrid modem out yet? Anyway to get AT&T LTE on T889?
Okay, I'll admit that a small consideration when I bought a T-Mobile Note II rather than an AT&T one was that the radio appeared more versatile in case I wanted to switch carriers at some point, but the primary reason was I'd wanted to check out T-Mo's HSPA+42 service, which is available where I live and work, while AT&T's LTE service isn't yet.
I see what TEKHD is trying to do in another thread, and I have that in mind as the ideal phone (dual-sim Note II with AT&T & T-Mo sims), but for most people, I think the best advice is just decide what service you want and get that phone.
If AT&T LTE is what you want, get the i317 and don't worry about trying to get a T889 to use AT&T LTE until someone else actually proves it can be done easily and reliably.
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T889 gets HSPA+ on T-Mobile & HSPA+ on AT&T (no LTE anywhere)
I317 gets LTE on AT&T and EDGE on T-Mobile (not sure if it actually gets HSPA+ on the new T-Mobile 1900 Band... ) anyone else can elaborate?
Any Hybrid modem out yet? Anyway to get AT&T LTE on T889?
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I am using an AT&T Note II, unlocked and on a T-Mobile prepaid 4g plan. I get HSPA+ where I live (Mesa Arizona). It will be interesting to see if I pick up T-Mobiles LTE when it rolls out in a couple months. :fingers-crossed:
probably not
Tmo isnt rolling out LTE.. They dont even have a FCC license for it yet.. not do they have an equipment vendor.
**The closest thing in the states we will see.. is integrated LTE use from the recently acquired Metro PCS sites.. there are not even rumors of Tmo integrating LTE into their switching system yet.. they dont have CO equipment to handle it either.. so.....
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Tmo isnt rolling out LTE.. They dont even have a FCC license for it yet.. not do they have an equipment vendor.
**The closest thing in the states we will see.. is integrated LTE use from the recently acquired Metro PCS sites.. there are not even rumors of Tmo integrating LTE into their switching system yet.. they dont have CO equipment to handle it either.. so.....
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You're kidding right ? They have been testing it for a while now and are using equipment and frequencies acquired from verizon.
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You're kidding right ? They have been testing it for a while now and are using equipment and frequencies acquired from verizon.
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No Im not kidding. I would have to say you are badly misinformed. VZW does not make or supply equipment. VZW uses the same Ericsson RBS cabinets [6601 LTE] as ATT and Metro PCS [metro was recently acquired by Tmo.. but Tmo cannot integrate LTE into their current CO technology without retrofitting].
*I am a heavily involved consultant for major carriers and contractors on the West coast.. Tmo here is going nuts adding new UMTS/HSDPA carriers and expanding sites.. there is no talks of LTE installs for 2013.. no project development yet for Tmo LTE in 2013.. Not a peep. Dont get your hopes up.. it still may develop later in the year though. Q1 is always miserably slow.
According to a Tmobile service rep lte is going to be rolled out with the iphone launch on TMobile.
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No Im not kidding. I would have to say you are badly misinformed. VZW does not make or supply equipment. VZW uses the same Ericsson RBS cabinets [6601 LTE] as ATT and Metro PCS [metro was recently acquired by Tmo.. but Tmo cannot integrate LTE into their current CO technology without retrofitting].
*I am a heavily involved consultant for major carriers and contractors on the West coast.. Tmo here is going nuts adding new UMTS/HSDPA carriers and expanding sites.. there is no talks of LTE installs for 2013.. no project development yet for Tmo LTE in 2013.. Not a peep. Dont get your hopes up.. it still may develop later in the year though. Q1 is always miserably slow.
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Than you better get further into the loop, cause T-Mobile is already testing LTE, and is launching it this year.
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Than you better get further into the loop, cause T-Mobile is already testing LTE, and is launching it this year.
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Assuming they can get an equipment contract from Ericsson.. who is already back-ordering ATT's and VZW's 6601 supply? I'm not saying they arent looking towards it.. but West coast Tmo would be very interested to hear if other markets are already field testing 700mhz [which to my knowledge they have not anywhere in the US at this time]. Lab testing maybe.. but field deployed LTE doesnt just get "tested" .. you have to launch an entire market - and that would be where...?
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Tmo isnt rolling out LTE.. They dont even have a FCC license for it yet.. not do they have an equipment vendor.
**The closest thing in the states we will see.. is integrated LTE use from the recently acquired Metro PCS sites.. there are not even rumors of Tmo integrating LTE into their switching system yet.. they dont have CO equipment to handle it either.. so.....
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So no lte ?? Have you read the tmobile news lately ???
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xcaliburpcs said:
So no lte ?? Have you read the tmobile news lately ???
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The city where I work already has had the LTE antennas installed last month, I saw it with my own eyes and I happen to work literally within 100 feet of the antenna site. The frequencies haven't been fired up for LTE, however the HSPA+ speed has increased dramatically with the new antennas, can't wait for T-mo to update my Note 2 with the LTE bands and the antennas to be activated to provide LTE. Now, if T-mo would give me anything more than EDGE speeds where I live I'd be even happier...
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Assuming they can get an equipment contract from Ericsson.. who is already back-ordering ATT's and VZW's 6601 supply? I'm not saying they arent looking towards it.. but West coast Tmo would be very interested to hear if other markets are already field testing 700mhz [which to my knowledge they have not anywhere in the US at this time]. Lab testing maybe.. but field deployed LTE doesnt just get "tested" .. you have to launch an entire market - and that would be where...?
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Ummmm... guy? Where have you been? T-Mobile has spent the last year refarming their network, moving their HSPA+ service to the 1900 MHz band so that they can roll out LTE on the AWS 1700 MHz band. The first market to go live will be Las Vegas which should happen within the next few weeks according to the CTO. This is all public knowledge and has been for some time. I don't think you're as in the loop as you think you are.
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Ummmm... guy? Where have you been? T-Mobile has spent the last year refarming their network, moving their HSPA+ service to the 1900 MHz band so that they can roll out LTE on the AWS 1700 MHz band. The first market to go live will be Las Vegas which should happen within the next few weeks according to the CTO. This is all public knowledge and has been for some time. I don't think you're as in the loop as you think you are.
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*derp.. we are crossing wires here. Im not discounting the work ongoing now.. just saying it doesnt add up to Tmo LTE in 2013
LTE for the rest of the nation will be months if not a year down the road still... I thought someone was eluding to full LTE launch. Test markets always launch first.. they represent only a tiny niche of the market. Because a carrier has functional signal in 2% of the national zone doesnt qualify them as an LTE vendor. They dont have the ingredients at this time to pull off nation-wide LTE in 2013.. period.
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*derp.. we are crossing wires here. Im not discounting the work ongoing now.. just saying it doesnt add up to Tmo LTE in 2013
LTE for the rest of the nation will be months if not a year down the road still... I thought someone was eluding to full LTE launch. Test markets always launch first.. they represent only a tiny niche of the market. Because a carrier has functional signal in 2% of the national zone doesnt qualify them as an LTE vendor. They dont have the ingredients at this time to pull off nation-wide LTE in 2013.. period.
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According to T-Mobile, from their talks at CES, they are going to be doing an enormous amount of LTE this year.
"They talked LTE a little bit, noting that they planned to have 100 Million folks covered by the middle of this year, 200 Million by the end of the year, and the rollout would start in Vegas in just a few weeks." androidcentral.com/t-mobile-talks-lte-mlb-voice-hd-and-more
Sorry, my account is new, so I can't post links.
No LTE on the eastern seabord, yet?
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*derp.. we are crossing wires here. Im not discounting the work ongoing now.. just saying it doesnt add up to Tmo LTE in 2013
LTE for the rest of the nation will be months if not a year down the road still... I thought someone was eluding to full LTE launch. Test markets always launch first.. they represent only a tiny niche of the market. Because a carrier has functional signal in 2% of the national zone doesnt qualify them as an LTE vendor. They dont have the ingredients at this time to pull off nation-wide LTE in 2013.. period.
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I see where you're coming from, and you seem like a knowledgable guy, but all T-Mo modernized sites that are using Ericsson's AIR (Antenna Integrated Radio) are LTE ready, so basically while they're modernizing and refarming their 1900Mhz sectrum for HSPA+, they're effectively deploying LTE Release 10 Equipment.
RBS 6601 cabinets are already in place here in NYC (which is already officially modernized) and we're basically 1900Mhz across the board. Fiber backhaul has never been an issue with T-Mobile.
Vegas and Kansas are about to be launched this month according to T-Mobile's CTO Neville Ray. Engineers have been testing LTE in modernized markets for months now, and it's just a matter of time when they make LTE commercially available.
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Haha cl3p20 is either totally in the dark or just making stuff up. I feel the flame wars.
No need to flame, we're helping each other.
Hsdpa+ currently works on att network as well
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I haven't tried to root this handset yet. This is my #2 handset. The 1st the screen broke so I used my insurance to get another. I work with phones all day long including iPhones, other T-Mobile phones, AT&T and non-GSM phones such as Verizon for example. I deal with carriers such as T-Mobile, Simple Mobile, H20 and non-GSM carriers such as Boost Mobile. So i'm saying that I basically deal with it all. Now the problem i'm having is my own phone. I set to WCDMA only and i'm on the stock ROM of course. The phone will set itself from Band 4 to Band 2 from time to time however, when it sets to Band 2 there is no service until it swaps back to Band 4. I have troubleshooted and called T-Mobile and Samsung to talk to them to find out whats going on. Both of the handsets have done this #1 and #2. The service menu *#0011# shows that it is on Band 2 and it is receiving 2 to 3 bars of service but the availability is LIMITED. The About Phone -> Status menu shows that it is Out Of Service. And the carrier is unknown. The notifications area shows searching... or no service. The type of network is showing Unknown:0. This only happens on Band 2 WCDMA on my phone. On any other phone it works with no issue. I am wondering why my specific phone is not connecting to this band properly. T-Mobile has told me to contact Samsung. Samsung said they can't help me apparently. So what do you think the reason is why I can't connect? If you need screenshots I can take them.
I have a similar problem with my first note 2. My note 2 gets signals sometime and I cannot get 4g speed. I called up tmobile they where unable to fix the problem. So most likely somthing screw up on your phone and use your insurance to exchange a working one.
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culua said:
I have a similar problem with my first note 2. My note 2 gets signals sometime and I cannot get 4g speed. I called up tmobile they where unable to fix the problem. So most likely somthing screw up on your phone and use your insurance to exchange a working one.
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Its never worked properly on neither of the Note IIs i've had. So 2 devices with the same issue. I believe the issue is wide spread and there are many others with the refarmed band connecting issue. The phone should have come with the options of 1700 and 1900 WCDMA switching or both. Unknown:0 just means theres no option for it so it doesn't know what to show. However, I can't explain why its happening on the Note IIs only.
Another person, as well as myself, posted about this problem about a month ago. We both had the same exact issue... 4G works, 3G doesn't at all. Edge works, GPS works... 3G DOES NOT send/recieve any data. It has to be a T-Mobile issue and from the looks of it they are trying to ignore it. Honestly it becomes a huge issue when you're traveling and can't always access WIFI or 4G. It's something I would leave T-Mobile for... so they should consider tackling the problem and fix it.
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Another person, as well as myself, posted about this problem about a month ago. We both had the same exact issue... 4G works, 3G doesn't at all. Edge works, GPS works... 3G DOES NOT send/recieve any data. It has to be a T-Mobile issue and from the looks of it they are trying to ignore it. Honestly it becomes a huge issue when you're traveling and can't always access WIFI or 4G. It's something I would leave T-Mobile for... so they should consider tackling the problem and fix it.
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This could be the same issue i'm having due to being in a limited 4G area its mostly 3G.
However, I can access 3G and 4G on phones that are not T-Mobile like AT&T Androids and iPhones and it works with no problem. I am wondering if this applies to the Galaxy S III and Note I also as I haven't tested that out yet. That's why I pointed it out at Samsung.
I wonder if it will be fixed when LTE Radio gets unlocked.
Developers should take notice that deal with the combo WCDMA 1700/1900 handsets to create a switch to go from WCDMA 1700 or 1900 and to use a combo of 1700 + 1900. So we could have the option to switch to a specific band rather than it jumping from 2 to 4 then back to 2 and 4 again.
Are you rooted?
Are you running a Custom ROM?
Have you flashed a Radio from anything other than a T-Mobile Radio?
Is it even safe to flash a radio other than T-Mobile?
Similar problem. Network data stopped sometime this afternoon. Tried sim in my sgs2 and worked fine.thinking of going to tmo store.
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Not sure but the issue with band 2 might be LTE related and the nonworking scenarios are possibly just occuring as tmo expands their towers... not sure if im way off or not but I read that tmo is pushing some to 1900 to make room for LTE on their 1700... there for, again just a hunch, band 2 might be somewhat sporadic due to it being reconfiged to accommodate their LTE rollouts
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I understand what your saying but its a weird occurrence to only not be working on the SGN-II. When I can hold another persons phone in the same spot with 1900 only and it ends up working. Only thing I can come up with is maybe blocking specific devices but I have no clue. Putting people on bands that don't work properly is something T-Mobile shouldn't be doing. If you for example are on that band and an emergency call comes through well you missed it till your back to the other 2 bands that work. I always root my devices however, i'm a lil scared to due to the fact that I might lose my EFS. Even tho I know I can backup my EFS. But then again I could lose it right after root. I don't understand why Samsung put vital info into a folder that could be removed.
Anyways sorry for the rant. I'm glad to know i'm not the only one with the problem.
The GNII is one of only like 3 phones that come with the LTE "on/off switch" so thats why Im speculating still, again I really have no clue but having read a few topics (like you wanted to know everthing about tmo efs/modem/imei/etc before modding anything) I feel like the LTE rollout and the band 2 issue going hand in hand
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The GNII is one of only like 3 phones that come with the LTE "on/off switch" so thats why Im speculating still, again I really have no clue but having read a few topics (like you wanted to know everthing about tmo efs/modem/imei/etc before modding anything) I feel like the LTE rollout and the band 2 issue going hand in hand
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I think know whats going on. In your *#0011# Service Menu. When it switches to Band 2 the MCC-MNC change. It shows something like 310 260 when its on T-Mobile but 310 410 when its on AT&T. When on Band 2 for some reason it will swap from 260 on Band 4 to 410 on Band 2 therefore identifying it as an AT&T network. Why is it trying to connect to AT&T? I have no idea.
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I think know whats going on. In your *#0011# Service Menu. When it switches to Band 2 the MCC-MNC change. It shows something like 310 260 when its on T-Mobile but 310 410 when its on AT&T. When on Band 2 for some reason it will swap from 260 on Band 4 to 410 on Band 2 therefore identifying it as an AT&T network. Why is it trying to connect to AT&T? I have no idea.
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I personally havent experienced any issues with my data/sms (then again if youre not receiving text/mms then how would one know they are experiencing problems in the first place?)
Because I havent had any issues I havent really tried to test my connection enough to know when im band 2 or band 4 or what exact mcc-mnc changes are occuring... for those worried about messing up their phones they need to just make sure they are always flashing a rom built foe their carriers' phone model and also make sure that each flash performed doesnt affect the modem.. (I know the modem part is hard due to roms being based off newer releases but as long as you are following my first suggestion (verify you are flashing the right carriers' phone model download) then there should never be an issue
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I personally havent experienced any issues with my data/sms (then again if youre not receiving text/mms then how would one know they are experiencing problems in the first place?)
Because I havent had any issues I havent really tried to test my connection enough to know when im band 2 or band 4 or what exact mcc-mnc changes are occuring... for those worried about messing up their phones they need to just make sure they are always flashing a rom built foe their carriers' phone model and also make sure that each flash performed doesnt affect the modem.. (I know the modem part is hard due to roms being based off newer releases but as long as you are following my first suggestion (verify you are flashing the right carriers' phone model download) then there should never be an issue
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T-Mobile's response is: The phone is designed to connect to the best network. Once Band 4 on T-Mobile has no signal while on 3G/4G WCDMA it will flop over automatically to Band 2 on AT&T. Due to the 7 year agreement we have with AT&T you should be able to access the network. However, we have lost a bunch of ROAMING AGREEMENTS recently. "Apparently AT&T DID NOT keep their promise of a nationwide agreement". Therefore your city might be on this list. This may be why you can't access AT&T. There is nothing we can do right now. Its a waiting game on when T-Mobile rolls out improved coverage onto 3G/4G 1700 WCDMA and 3G/4G 1900 WCDMA on its own. So in the future it is less likely that you will be put on AT&T. However, it is still possible. Sorry but we DO NOT have any CeI-Fi devices as I would offer you one as we are SOLD OUT. We don't expect any Cei-Fi devices to be in till this Summer.
So this device is supposed to go onto AT&T apparently and its not supposed to show as Roaming which is why Data Roaming Checked/Unchecked doesn't work.
Thank you! Finally a complete answer lol.
Is it possible to make it so band 2 only sticks with T-Mobile?
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Thank you! Finally a complete answer lol.
Is it possible to make it so band 2 only sticks with T-Mobile?
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No and I found how to take screenshots. Wish I had pulled out my S-Pen out sooner.
Service Mode:
When on T-Mobile WCDMA, about to lose signal as MNC 260, lost signal after -113 dBm:
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When T-Mobile WCDMA signal is lost, flopping onto AT&T as MNC 410:
Status Menu:
When on T-Mobile WCDMA, about to lose signal as In Service, UMTS: Mode 3, Carrier as T-Mobile:
When on AT&T WCDMA, lost signal and flopped as Out Of Service, Unknown Network Mode 0, Carrier as Unknown:
Well they sold out of the Cel-Fi once they actually dropped the 2 YR requirement extension and then they got plagued with calls and SOLD OUT. I told her thats not good that means that the network is crap. She laughed and agreed. But look at the good AT&T signal makes me want to sometimes switch but everytime I think of leaving I couldn't.
According to the info I have gotten in my area GSM is approx. 485 meters away and WCDMA is 1,110 meters away in the opposite direction.
Figured out my problem. Phone got blacklisted.thanks eBay:thumbdown:
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Now I can ROAM onto AT&T and have everything running except 4G is actually EDGE speed. I can even select AT&T as the main network.
LTE Band 2 1900MHz capability
I would like to know if an unlocked Tmobile note 2 has the capability to work on AT&T LTE Band 2 1900 MHz?
I know it works on AT&T GSM-1900 MHz frequency. it will even work on LTE band 17 700MHz frequency.
Preeese hrrp
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/06/04/sprint-and-t-mobile-agree-on-merger-terms/
lets hope it doesn't go through.
what are your guys/gals thoughts on it?
PS: if its in the wrong area or doesnt need to exist just move/delete it.
I don't know anything about the phone services but I do know that T-Mobile has made no attempt to lock me out of the hardware I have purchased. Does Sprint lock the bootloader?
Frank
This makes no sense as tmobile is on a role with their un carrier strategy. No sense at all.
DEMON GALAXY NO SOULS NOTED !!!!!
i dropped sprint it was horrid do not want anything to do with them period ! i left att for tmobile and have been very happy .. im hoping the FCC jumps in and stop this cluster **** from happening
For once I hope the FCC does the right thing and doesn't allow this to go through.
CheesyNutz said:
i dropped sprint it was horrid do not want anything to do with them period ! i left att for tmobile and have been very happy .. im hoping the FCC jumps in and stop this cluster **** from happening
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My thoughts word for word! This **** is sad..
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even if it does go through, there's a good chance John Legere runs the show
Obvious question- will they be CDMA or GSM after this goes through? Or both?
Sprint wants them for the LTE spectrum they have so it's not going to matter if it's CDMA or GsM
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Sprint wants them for the LTE spectrum they have so it's not going to matter if it's CDMA or GsM
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Then its going to be gsm since it would be for the LTE. Look at what happened when the mergered with metropcs. Honestly that is too much mergers.
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I just left sprint for t-mobile last month it's hard to admit that I was with sprint for about 7 years then they went to crap on their network I truly hope that this merger doesn't happen. Is there any way us people can start a petition? do we even have a say in this type of matter? I will do anything to stay away from sprint!
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I don't know anything about the phone services but I do know that T-Mobile has made no attempt to lock me out of the hardware I have purchased. Does Sprint lock the bootloader?
Frank
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I had sprint on the epic4gtouch and note 2, the speeds were horrid but the bootloaders were unlocked like tmobile. I dont want the merger to happen either because im sure prices will go up since its less competition, but cant do anything about it and hope john legere would still run things over on his side.
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Fcc blocked this once, I hope it happens again.
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Bloomberg: John Legere likely to be CEO of combined Sprint/T-Mobile if deal goes ahead
To be honest screw Sprint but if john legere does become CEO then you're looking at a force aimed at destroying Verizon and att. John leger is a beast. He's the reason why Tmobile is Tmobile the way it is today. Unlimited data, no more contract, JUMP program. This guy is a beast. If it doesn't go through then sprint will be paying up $1billion to Tmobile. More money for towers and LTE spectrum
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Personally I'm against this merger but these things run through my head...
1. Sprint is not buying out T-Mobile. Softbank is the company trying to do that. They just happen to own Sprint.
2. If this were to happen could it go down like how Cingular did with AT&T. Memory trip, Cingular bought out AT&T Wireless...and yet AT&T remained and Cingular dropped their name. Could this happen with T-Mobile. T-Mobile is the IT brand, Sprint is the sh!t brand.
2a. Notice who is talking about the Sprint CEO? Nobody.
3. T-Mobile will stay GSM. CDMA for all intent and purposes is dead. Even Verizon is using GSM.
4. With TMoUS in charge they could get access to areas that would be grandfathered in.
Again, I'm against the deal but these are things running through my mind.
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Personally I'm against this merger but these things run through my head...
1. Sprint is not buying out T-Mobile. Softbank is the company trying to do that. They just happen to own Sprint.
2. If this were to happen could it go down like how Cingular did with AT&T. Memory trip, Cingular bought out AT&T Wireless...and yet AT&T remained and Cingular dropped their name. Could this happen with T-Mobile. T-Mobile is the IT brand, Sprint is the sh!t brand.
2a. Notice who is talking about the Sprint CEO? Nobody.
3. T-Mobile will stay GSM. CDMA for all intent and purposes is dead. Even Verizon is using GSM.
4. With TMoUS in charge they could get access to areas that would be grandfathered in.
Again, I'm against the deal but these are things running through my mind.
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I see your points I'm just can't stand sprint had the for about 12 years horrible experience ..
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I'm for anything that gets me more than 2 g and same to priving
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rosedog said:
Personally I'm against this merger but these things run through my head...
1. Sprint is not buying out T-Mobile. Softbank is the company trying to do that. They just happen to own Sprint.
2. If this were to happen could it go down like how Cingular did with AT&T. Memory trip, Cingular bought out AT&T Wireless...and yet AT&T remained and Cingular dropped their name. Could this happen with T-Mobile. T-Mobile is the IT brand, Sprint is the sh!t brand.
2a. Notice who is talking about the Sprint CEO? Nobody.
3. T-Mobile will stay GSM. CDMA for all intent and purposes is dead. Even Verizon is using GSM.
4. With TMoUS in charge they could get access to areas that would be grandfathered in.
Again, I'm against the deal but these are things running through my mind.
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Sprint has pretty much stopped working on their network vision rollout. My friend who works for Sprint said Sprint techs are jumping ship left and going to t-mo. I think this is going to happen, and it quite possibly is a good thing. For me I have one thing to say : as far as me, *grandfathered* Just will have better coverage, with Sprint's towers, and Legere at the helm. Hoorah!
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I left those bastards when the note 3 came out. I pray to the cell phone gods this does not happen.
You guys remember when Sprint took over Nextel? Disaster, total disaster.
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