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T-Mobile lives. At&t buyout fails

http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/12/t-mobile-lives-atts-39-billion-buyout-is-officially-dead/
Looks like at&t lost $4 billion in this deal. Sucks for em.
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Great article..
Honestly, though, who didn't see this coming?

chunology said:
Great article..
Honestly, though, who didn't see this coming?
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I'm only wondering now what will happen to Tmobile once Sprint overcomes it's debt by 2015 (estimated). Maybe a buyout then from Sprint to become larger to compete it the other two giants?
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Overstew said:
I'm only wondering now what will happen to Tmobile once Sprint overcomes it's debt by 2015 (estimated). Maybe a buyout then from Sprint to become larger to compete it the other two giants?
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I read in an Android blog last week that Dish Network could be interested in T-mo.
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chunology said:
Great article..
Honestly, though, who didn't see this coming?
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I didn't see it coming like my gf that one time I wore a camouflage condom ... jk I don't have a gf
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xSaint21 said:
I didn't see it coming like my gf that one time I wore a camouflage condom ... jk I don't have a gf
This should have ended like this
"JK I don't wear condoms."
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money.cnn.com/2011/12/19/technology/att_tmobile_dead/index.htm?hpt=hp_t3
reporting sprint could be interested and a deal would most likely be approved.... that could make things interesting...

How on Earth did a "deal" that didn't go through cost AT&T 4 billion dollars? I would think that AT&T has in-house people to get the deal done and they could have bought a Financial Services Firm to make the deal happen for 1/100th of that amount... Who's dumbass idea was it to put up 3 billion plus without a solid belief the deal would clear FCC?

[QUOTE=you sick bastard... I like the way you think.
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kenneu said:
How on Earth did a "deal" that didn't go through cost AT&T 4 billion dollars? I would think that AT&T has in-house people to get the deal done and they could have bought a Financial Services Firm to make the deal happen for 1/100th of that amount... Who's dumbass idea was it to put up 3 billion plus without a solid belief the deal would clear FCC?
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Just an interesting note the original purchase contract was 12 billion in cash and spectrum....

What's up with "cash"? Like four suitcases stuffed with money? The CEO can literally dance and swim in it? I'd assume it would just be an EFT.

Overstew said:
I'm only wondering now what will happen to Tmobile once Sprint overcomes it's debt by 2015 (estimated). Maybe a buyout then from Sprint to become larger to compete it the other two giants?
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I hope sprint doesn't buy tmobile, that would still just leave three real competitors.
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That was a long waste of a process. Verizon and AT&T control 75% of the market. Sprint and T-Mobile USA are too small to survive on their own. They cannot keep pace with the capital investments of the much larger Verizon and AT&T. Sprint is struggling to build a 4G LTE network, and T-Mobile does not even have any immediate plans for one. I am hoping that some big outside investors (Dish Network, Google, etc.) come in and buy out the small carriers and make the necessary cash infusions. As a consumer, I want affordable, nation-wide mobile broadband with high (or unlimited) data caps.
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Overstew said:
I'm only wondering now what will happen to Tmobile once Sprint overcomes it's debt by 2015 (estimated). Maybe a buyout then from Sprint to become larger to compete it the other two giants?
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Sprint won't "overcome" its debt by 2015. It is hoping to "merely" stop losing money by 2015.
It will remain highly indebted to the tune of tens of billions of dollars. Sprint does not have any money to buy out T-Mobile USA.
If Sprint and T-Mobile USA were to come to an agreement, it may be just to share a 4G network. If a merger, then it would be more of an equal union in which Deutsche Telekom adds T-Mobile USA in return for a 20-40% stake in the new entity.

Just me, but I would personally like to see Sprint buy T-Mo. Couple Magenta's spectrum & product line with Sprint's unlimited plans & customer service & I think we would have a winner.
Just my .02
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skyline247 said:
Just me, but I would personally like to see Sprint buy T-Mo. Couple Magenta's spectrum & product line with Sprint's unlimited plans & customer service & I think we would have a winner.
Just my .02
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With only 3 carriers left, you seriously think the unlimited data would remain?
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skyline247 said:
Just me, but I would personally like to see Sprint buy T-Mo. Couple Magenta's spectrum & product line with Sprint's unlimited plans & customer service & I think we would have a winner.
Just my .02
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The problem is that Sprint does not have .02 to spare. It is in deep debt and has lost money for the past 5 years. It does not expect to turn a profit until perhaps 2014.
As for T-Mobile's "product line", it is all incompatible with Sprint. Their 3G networks use two different technologies: CDMA and GSM.

I think a Sprint/T-Mobile merger could work out better than the Sprint/Nextel merger did. Yes, there is the GSM/CDMA network incompatibility problem, but there are many reasons to think that this would be easier to overcome than the CDMA/iDEN problems from the previous merger.
First of all, the wireless industry has just entered the beginning phases of moving to the next generation of wireless standards, and for the first time, it looks like almost everyone is migrating to one standard, LTE. Since LTE was designed to be compatible with both CDMA and GSM/UMTS, it can serve as an easy bridge between a theoretical T-Mobile/Sprint network once VoLTE and the next generation of handsets become standard within the next 5 years. Once LTE is completely rolled out and the network is mature, either or both of the older 2G/3G networks could be completely phased out to restore the network to a streamlined, efficient state.
Edit to add: There are several examples of wireless companies in other countries that rolled out UMTS/HSPA 3G/4G over their CDMA networks such as Bell and Telus in Canada, and Telstra in Australia.
Another factor is that there are already several phones that support both GSM and CDMA. Sprint's Motorola Photon and the iPhone 4S are both examples of this. While these phones in particular don't support T-Mobile's 3G frequency band, it is possible to make phones in the future that do. What is uncertain is how well this would work in practice. Would handoffs between the two networks work like they do within the networks? Is it even possible for one phone to have both connectivity standards active at one time, and if it is, what would be the impact on battery life? In any case, the feasibility of a merger shouldn't be understated.
What I do think could be a potential problem is the financial logistics of a potential merger. On its own, Sprint is probably unable to come up with the financial resources necessary to purchase T-Mobile and take on the additional explicit and implicit costs of integrating 33 million subscribers and a largely incompatible network. Unless Deutsch Telecom changes its mind about participating in the US wireless market and decides to buy Sprint itself or a third party acquires both companies or makes a major investment in Sprint to enable the acquisition, it is unlikely to happen.

kingsway8605 said:
With only 3 carriers left, you seriously think the unlimited data would remain?
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Possibly. I believe after LTE is implemented nationwide & carrier-wide it won't matter much anyway. Besides, on second thought, maybe T-Mo should buy Sprint. Hey, it could happen.
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dmchssc said:
I think a Sprint/T-Mobile merger could work out better than the Sprint/Nextel merger did. Yes, there is the GSM/CDMA network incompatibility problem, but there are many reasons to think that this would be easier to overcome than the CDMA/iDEN problems from the previous merger.
First of all, the wireless industry has just entered the beginning phases of moving to the next generation of wireless standards, and for the first time, it looks like almost everyone is migrating to one standard, LTE. Since LTE was designed to be compatible with both CDMA and GSM/UMTS, it can serve as an easy bridge between a theoretical T-Mobile/Sprint network once VoLTE and the next generation of handsets become standard within the next 5 years. Once LTE is completely rolled out and the network is mature, either or both of the older 2G/3G networks could be completely phased out to restore the network to a streamlined, efficient state.
Edit to add: There are several examples of wireless companies in other countries that rolled out UMTS/HSPA 3G/4G over their CDMA networks such as Bell and Telus in Canada, and Telstra in Australia.
Another factor is that there are already several phones that support both GSM and CDMA already. Sprint's Motorola Photon and the iPhone 4S are both examples of this. While these phones in particular don't support T-Mobile's 3G frequency band, it is possible to make phones in the future that do. What is uncertain is how well this would work in practice. Would handoffs between the two networks work like they do within the networks? Is it even possible for one phone to have both connectivity standards active at one time, and if it is, what would be the impact on battery life? In any case, the feasibility of a merger shouldn't be understated.
What I do think could be a potential problem are the financial logistics of a potential merger. On its own, Sprint is probably unable to get the financial resources necessary to purchase T-Mobile and take on the additional explicit and implicit costs of integrating 33 million subscribers and a largely incompatible network. Unless Deutsch Telecom changes its mind about participating in the US wireless market and decides to buy Sprint itself or a third party acquires both companies or makes a major investment in Sprint to enable the acquisition, it is unlikely to happen.
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+1 True.
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[Competition] TMobile to bring back TRULY UNLIMITED DATA PLAN

You read the title correctly, tmonews and android central. The question is would you switch to Tmobile for 4G HSPA+ data speeds with no caps or overages. I know im seriously thinking about it. The wait for LTE is killing me.

Hmm no caps or overages but..... What about throttling.....
Never mind looks like it will be un throttled.
http://m.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-ready-offer-completely-unlimited-data

No throttling either.

eh, this is how it starts..they offer unlimited then when you download xyz they cripple it to 10KB/s.
after people complain, they will stop throttling then implement a download cap again.
rinse and repeat.

This will be interesting. I'm now doubting how smart it was to sign a new contract with Sprint. With T-Mobile, you have your choice of Nexus and international phones (*cough*Mi2*cough*). Plus, T-Mobile is about to roll out LTE Advance next year. So basically, the plans and pricing should end up similar to Sprint with a very competitive network, but with a much better selection of phones (counting non-T-Mobile-endorsed Nexi and international phones).
I still have confidence in Sprint's NV/LTE upgrade, and I'm plenty satisfied with my S3 for now, so the next 2 years should be good for me, but this news definitely gives one something to ponder.

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My speed test this morning sitting on my porch in the open air with 3 signal bars on 3G.......yes I am STRONGLY considering T-Mobile now.
Sprint sucks and probably always will suck when it comes to data speed.
EDIT: According to the screenshot I had a full signal there smh.

gpgorbosjr said:
My speed test this morning sitting on my porch in the open air with 3 signal bars on 3G.......yes I am STRONGLY considering T-Mobile now.
Sprint sucks and probably always will suck when it comes to data speed.
EDIT: According to the screenshot I had a full signal there smh.
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I would make sure t-mobile is good in your area.

One thing that could keep me is that even T-Mo fanboys get mad about the incompetent, outsourced support line. I hate supporting companies that outsource jobs.

gpgorbosjr said:
My speed test this morning sitting on my porch in the open air with 3 signal bars on 3G.......yes I am STRONGLY considering T-Mobile now.
Sprint sucks and probably always will suck when it comes to data speed.
EDIT: According to the screenshot I had a full signal there smh.
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Where exactly in jersey are you? I know in new brunswick t-mobile was amazing
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DarkManX4lf said:
I would make sure t-mobile is good in your area.
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nikmash232 said:
Where exactly in jersey are you? I know in new brunswick t-mobile was amazing
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I'm in Linden (right next to Elizabeth)....I don't get those speeds all the time I just screencapped it this AM and was using for an excuse to share it....
I don't have a problem with Sprint's speed like I used to WHEN I GET IT. The problem is there are a lot of areas where it either connects only to 1X (inside certain buildings, but other carriers don't have this issue so it isn't the building) or times like in this screenshot where it is displaying a good 3G signal but the data doesn't actually work, it seems stuck.
I wouldn't switch to T-Mo. There speeds have gotten faster but nothing has changed to ease my mind as to their coverage when making calls. I remember I tried them for a week and there were places I got NO signal. No data, no voice.

EndlessDissent said:
This will be interesting. I'm now doubting how smart it was to sign a new contract with Sprint. With T-Mobile, you have your choice of Nexus and international phones (*cough*Mi2*cough*). Plus, T-Mobile is about to roll out LTE Advance next year. So basically, the plans and pricing should end up similar to Sprint with a very competitive network, but with a much better selection of phones (counting non-T-Mobile-endorsed Nexi and international phones).
I still have confidence in Sprint's NV/LTE upgrade, and I'm plenty satisfied with my S3 for now, so the next 2 years should be good for me, but this news definitely gives one something to ponder.
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I'm in the exact same boat. I've been with Sprint for over a decade and I was upset when they took away the Premire Program considering I had just qualified Gold status shortly after they came out with it. I let it slide because even though I don't use a ton of network data, I hate the idea of being kept to a limit and/or being throttled once I get there.
Like you, I'll give Sprint a fair chance here. I'm around the Chicago area, so we're in full blown Network Vision upgrade which has been hit and miss. Some places are great, others are atrocious. If their plans pan out, I'll stick with Sprint, but if not, I'll gladly jump to a GSM carrier for a variety of reasons, especially now that they're going to offer truly unlimited data as well.

if this holds true, im out of here with sprint. screw giving them a chance when were paying $10 for premium data. Dial up speeds are not premium data. hell even if we werent paying $10 a month, id still be considering it. I cant even access internet pages in good 3g areas half the time without having to refresh 4-5 times/ Let alone getting any of the apps to refresh. when I was with t-mobile. I always got 6-12mbps. Who cares that its hspa+. I would wait for LTE, but judging by what ive read, Sprint LTE has alot of connectivity issues as well.
If tmobile starts to offer unthrottled unlimited data and it cripples the network, then ill be in the same boat im already in with sprint. So i really cant lose. Paying these prices for this type of service is not acceptable to me.
Im at my wits end with sprint

I tried Tmobile for a week before canceling during the 15 day period. Speeds outdoors were good, but when I entered buildings I lost service completely. If you switch to Tmobile make sure you test indoors. I went from 5 bars at my desk to zero.

T-Mobile service is good in my area. I might consider it. GSM is better than CDMA anyways. I always liked tmobile. But i think im gonna have to wait until my contract is over.

nikmash232 said:
Where exactly in jersey are you? I know in new brunswick t-mobile was amazing
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He posted the longitude/latitude in his speedtest. Just plug those into google maps and you can see his porch.

Sleestax said:
He posted the longitude/latitude in his speedtest. Just plug those into google maps and you can see his porch.
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Lol....I don't think the GPS is actually good enough to lead right to my porch....but either way I don't enable the gps satellites so the location is a bit off. Got very close, but still about 3 blocks off.
EDIT: I was more worried about IP haha, but I'm guessing that info there isn't important.

I'm interested in seeing how this pans out. I just wish it was easier to try out T-Mobile in my area without feeling like a douche if I say no and return everything. (lol)

Master_sk3 said:
You read the title correctly, tmonews and android central. The question is would you switch to Tmobile for 4G HSPA+ data speeds with no caps or overages. I know im seriously thinking about it. The wait for LTE is killing me.
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If that was confirmed I would be jumping ship asap. But what about the price?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

blackdragon79 said:
If that was confirmed I would be jumping ship asap. But what about the price?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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Supposedly, everything unlimited would be $89.99/Mo. Not sure if that's worth the huge ETF for Sprint, but it's tempting for me, especially since I would pare that down a bit by getting as few minutes as possible.

EndlessDissent said:
Supposedly, everything unlimited would be $89.99/Mo. Not sure if that's worth the huge ETF for Sprint, but it's tempting for me, especially since I would pare that down a bit by getting as few minutes as possible.
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Let sprint kick you to the curb all you have to do is roam 24/7 sprint will eventually drop you with no etf. That's a option to try. If t mobile didn't want a fee to sign up I would do just that.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

After 20 years on ATT, first time switch to Sprint, very bad

So after almost 20 years on ATT, have never changed providers, multiple models and makes of phones on ATT and never had a signal issue, outages yes, due to storms but once service back, no complaints
Made the switch for the 1st time over to Sprint, Samsung Galaxy S3 16GB (for some reason the automated system recognizes phones as 32GB).
After 48 hours on Sprint, horrible horrible horrible voice quality issues (ATT has quad band coverage in area, both 3G and 4G) and despite phone being a 4G, can only see 3G icon lit, anywhere within 50 miles of home. I am paying a surcharge of 10.00 extra for 4G for multiple phones, have yet to see the service. Yes, Sprint promised it would work.
Purchased legitimate (yes I know I can root using qbking videos and Team Epic files) wifi hotspot to tether, keeps dropping connection every few minutes where ATT tether was flawless.
Sprint says "we are working on new towers, service will improve, you have 14 days to return phones are we will refund or replace..."
Sigh.

It isn't a $10 4g fee
Its a premium data fee A.K.A. unlimited 3g/4g/roaming where available
Use s4gru.com to see when you will get lte
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Yes, the $10 fee was originally for wimax 4G, but after people complained Sprint reworded it as "premium data". Now Even smart phones that only have 3G get this charge.
Add far as voice service, yes Sprint is in the middle of their network vision improvements so ymmv, I have great voice service.
Seems you didn't do enough research before you switched to Sprint and went off the sales pitch the person gave you. Sales people in general will say just about anything to make the sale and get the commission.
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The good news is your an educated consumer and you already know you have 14 days to return everything and cancel service and go back to ATT.

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The good news is your an educated consumer and you already know you have 14 days to return everything and cancel service and go back to ATT.
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that's what i would do also. in fact, if sprint's 4g lte service isn't competitive (when it's finally finished) i'm done with sprint and going to at&t.

xdafly said:
So after almost 20 years on ATT, have never changed providers, multiple models and makes of phones on ATT and never had a signal issue, outages yes, due to storms but once service back, no complaints
Made the switch for the 1st time over to Sprint, Samsung Galaxy S3 16GB (for some reason the automated system recognizes phones as 32GB).
After 48 hours on Sprint, horrible horrible horrible voice quality issues (ATT has quad band coverage in area, both 3G and 4G) and despite phone being a 4G, can only see 3G icon lit, anywhere within 50 miles of home. I am paying a surcharge of 10.00 extra for 4G for multiple phones, have yet to see the service. Yes, Sprint promised it would work.
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1. The GS3 is an LTE phone, not a 4G phone. So if they havent turned on LTE in your area, then yeah no duh you wont get it.
2. You are paying $10 a month for data, not specifically 4G. Yes its BS but deal with it, every company has the charge but in different words.
3. If its not working, complain that you get no service and return it for a refund. You have 14 days.
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Purchased legitimate (yes I know I can root using qbking videos and Team Epic files) wifi hotspot to tether, keeps dropping connection every few minutes where ATT tether was flawless.
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4. WHY!? Why would you pay? Rooting has 100 different benefits.
My question is, do you even know what you are doing? Did you read ANYTHING about the phone or how it works, did you research the service quality in your area before switching?

Where are you located? I can understand your frustration, it's hard for me to believe that you are saying that ATT voice is clearer than Sprints
I mean I guess if you're roaming and on another tower not owned by Sprint
I'm going to guess your location is your major problem, do you live in a rural area? Sprint works really well in Metro areas, not so much in the rural areas although they are broadening their coverage to these type of areas.
In my opinion, CDMA technology has sharper voice than GSM
Too bad you are experiencing this type of issue.

so you are at the age of 38-40 years old?

Kinda came at a wrong time
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Wow Sprint has bad voice? That's the first I ever heard of that.
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Its easy...return the equipment and cancel the contract
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pacifik.fuzion said:
in fact, if sprint's 4g lte service isn't competitive (when it's finally finished) i'm done with sprint and going to at&t.
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If it saves you a year of misery, Sprint's stated *GOAL* for network vision is a pathetic 6 mbps. Compare that *goal* to what people you know are getting with AT&T, Verizon, and even T-mobile *today*, and decide for yourself whether Sprint is even worth bothering with.
Frankly, I'm through with Sprint. If it weren't for the Galaxy Note 2 tantalizing me on or before 10/15, I'd have probably gone to the AT&T store today and bought a GS3 instead. In fact, if they announce a release date after that, I'll just get the S3, becase I hate my unflashable Photon with a passion, and can't replace it with a Sprint S3 because *then* I'd have no usable data service (wimax works ok here, but no LTE yet, and EVDO here has been 6 to ~80kbps down lately. I had faster 1xRTT 5 years ago).
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i been telling people to stay clear from sprint for months. I will admit it's bad if your coming from a carrier with usable internet pretty much everyone except Sprint, it will be hard adjusting. I used 8 gigs a month at T-Mobile and with sprint I'm lucky to crack 500 mb. I will be heading back to T-Mobile after dec lesson well learned if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Location, Location, Location.........
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Location, Location, Location.........
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Exactly. It's just about stable enough in Dallas that I have ditched my AT&T Note and strictly carry my Sprint phone. Att and Verizon speeds are comparable. Voice quality in this market is unmatched. Sprint wins hands down. whoopdy doo...Tmobile now has unlimited...and is garbage here in big D.
The only one here in the market that may have a competitive edge is Metro with voice over LTE...though their unlImIted data, speeds are capped at 5mbps
I'm not even going to get into the whole grandfathered data on Att being throttled and the new share plans pricing structure being absurd.
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I seriously dont understand how people complain about sprint. Its probably 25-35% cheaper compared to every other contract carrier...and was one of the first contract carriers to offer unlimited data, not sure if it still is. I get many discounts off my bill simply because I have state farm insurance and other various memberships. I had verizon for YEARS, switched to sprint, could hardly tell the difference. 90% of the time its all in your head.

siirus09 said:
1. The GS3 is an LTE phone, not a 4G phone. So if they havent turned on LTE in your area, then yeah no duh you wont get it.
4. WHY!? Why would you pay? Rooting has 100 different benefits.
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LTE is 4g....
And because sometimes people are honest? If everyone just stole it, Sprint would be much more likely to figure out a way to block it. If you're going to actually use it regularly I think people should pay for it.

pacifik.fuzion said:
that's what i would do also. in fact, if sprint's 4g lte service isn't competitive (when it's finally finished) i'm done with sprint and going to at&t.
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Excelent move

bitbang3r said:
If it saves you a year of misery, Sprint's stated *GOAL* for network vision is a pathetic 6 mbps. Compare that *goal* to what people you know are getting with AT&T, Verizon, and even T-mobile *today*, and decide for yourself whether Sprint is even worth bothering with.
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I was under the impression that 6mbps was their goal for their average speeds. People with Sprint LTE right now are posting 30 mbps speeds. When I had Verizon I would get 5 mbps on LTE at home, where I had low signal, and 25 to 30 at work, where I had excellent signal. There's a huge difference when talking between peak and average speeds.

Sprint 3G sucks!

OK, so sprint 3G speed in Sevierville, TN sucks sooo bad!!!! Anyway to make it faster???
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Edit: oh and the tower is right across the street.

dakota.breeden said:
OK, so sprint 3G speed in Sevierville, TN sucks sooo bad!!!! Anyway to make it faster???
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yes. get off of sprint.

Zepius said:
yes. get off of sprint.
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That was the speeds I was getting while on Virgin Mobile (sprint). Switched to straight talk and my speeds are like 10 times faster.

Sprint is awful. I don't know how they can still be in such business. I can only assume they do well in large metro areas. Im in central ohio and 3g was awful all the time. I switched to verizon. I initially went with sprint because of their unlimited plans, but what good is unlimited data if you cant even get to it. I have a 4gb data plan now and avg 1.5-2gb per month. couldnt be happier. definitely worth the extra money. their lte is the best. i broke my sprint contract with 7 months left and was not charged a termination fee. good luck with your data struggles!

You might be able to sue over that contract if they had charged you, if you go to court and basically say Sprint service is ****, if I remember correctly they generally buy that, because Sprint isn't providing you with reasonable service (aka holding up their end of the contract).
But yes, how are they still in business? Most of the time my friends can't even get on the Play Store, the connection times out. I'd rather have capped data.
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dakota.breeden said:
OK, so sprint 3G speed in Sevierville, TN sucks sooo bad!!!! Anyway to make it faster???
Edit: oh and the tower is right across the street.
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That's terrible ping, did you check under results to make sure it read evdo rev a? Sometimes looks can be decieving, but ymmv from location. I get garbage speeds where I live, but over 1mbps on virgin mobile in speedtests when I go over to the wealthy side of town.
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How about this one?

Sprint sucks!!! I also went to them for unlimited data, but the data was pretty much unusable. Went to Verizon and love dependable 4g almost everywhere. And prices are pretty much the same, I might b capped now but its data I can use. it is still about the same in the monthly bill, and no I never worry about using too much data.
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justen7723 said:
Sprint sucks!!! I also went to them for unlimited data, but the data was pretty much unusable. Went to Verizon and love dependable 4g almost everywhere. And prices are pretty much the same, I might b capped now but its data I can use. it is still about the same in the monthly bill, and no I never worry about using too much data.
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Couldn't agree more. I only pay 5 dollars more a month with Verizon. I'm so glad I don't have sprint. I live in San Diego and I was roaming internationally in my apt. I live 35miles away from the border didn't make sense to me. Now I have 4g everywhere I go and its so dependable.
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I left sprint for straight talk last month. Best decision I ever made. Don't walk,
but Sprint to the nearest Walmart and get your sim card now!

tnizzle said:
I left sprint for straight talk last month. Best decision I ever made. Don't walk,
but Sprint to the nearest Walmart and get your sim card now!
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Straight talk is great. There are a few dead spots around the area but most days my speeds are great.
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I've been wanting to make the switch to straight talk for quite awhile myself honestly, the only thing holding me back is efforts to continue supporting people that follow my guide.
This is my different speeds with sprint.
Speeds where I live ^ although I do live in between two cities, so its understandable on how lame it is.
And these are the speeds I get in the rich people side. Lol
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Esteway.619 said:
Couldn't agree more. I only pay 5 dollars more a month with Verizon. I'm so glad I don't have sprint.
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No way ur paying only $5 a month more for a comparable plan on Verizon, unless u were getting ripped on Sprint and not getting the 25% discount. I'm not happy with Sprint either, but no way am I gonna let Verizon butt rape me. I'll go prepaid when my contract expires. The easiest solution to this problem is roaming onto Verizon 3g via:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660740
[PRL] Verizon / Corporate PRL on your Sprint Galaxy Nexus !!!
I'll tell u though, Verizon's 3g speeds are not that much better than Sprints where I'm at (Santa Clarita, Ca), usable, but not nearly as good as HSPA. CDMA revA will be obsolete eventually.

Airwolf79 said:
No way ur paying only $5 a month more for a comparable plan on Verizon, unless u were getting ripped on Sprint and not getting the 25% discount. I'm not happy with Sprint either, but no way am I gonna let Verizon butt rape me. I'll go prepaid when my contract expires. The easiest solution to this problem is roaming onto Verizon 3g via:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660740
[PRL] Verizon / Corporate PRL on your Sprint Galaxy Nexus !!!
I'll tell u though, Verizon's 3g speeds are not that much better than Sprints where I'm at (Santa Clarita, Ca), usable, but not nearly as good as HSPA. CDMA revA will be obsolete eventually.
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U call that a solution???
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Its like unlimited dial up.

me and my girl both left, both now on pre paid and loving it, i got the tmo thirty dollar plan and its been fantastic, she is on straight talk with [email protected] service, def better service on both ends. also now combined bills are the same as one sprint plan. We also had a discount on our sprint plan and could have cared less
Also battery life has been improved to, due to our sprint phones having to fight to get data from the tower. Sprint would be better if they weren't the back for virgin and boost

I had speeds just like that, then back in February I paid the prorated ETF ($50) and went to verizon. Now I'm usually 12mbps and up, because they have 4g pretty much everywhere. At least in my area of SC

Airwolf79 said:
No way ur paying only $5 a month more for a comparable plan on Verizon, unless u were getting ripped on Sprint and not getting the 25% discount. I'm not happy with Sprint either, but no way am I gonna let Verizon butt rape me. I'll go prepaid when my contract expires. The easiest solution to this problem is roaming onto Verizon 3g via:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660740
[PRL] Verizon / Corporate PRL on your Sprint Galaxy Nexus !!!
I'll tell u though, Verizon's 3g speeds are not that much better than Sprints where I'm at (Santa Clarita, Ca), usable, but not nearly as good as HSPA. CDMA revA will be obsolete eventually.
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Not lying. Was paying 210 for 3 lines then they changed the plan to where the free 2nd line was going to be charged the add a line fee shock was 20 bucks. I pay 225 for the same amount of minutes and all 3 lines and 4gb of data on all of them for 220
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Esteway.619 said:
Not lying. Was paying 210 for 3 lines then they changed the plan to where the free 2nd line was going to be charged the add a line fee shock was 20 bucks. I pay 225 for the same amount of minutes and all 3 lines and 4gb of data on all of them for 220
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I C. Yeah I was pissed too when Sprint raised my rates. How can they raise rates first and fix the crappy network later? Makes sense since you're only getting 4gbs of data. These contract companies like Sprint and Verizon will have to fight to keep customers at these prices in the coming years cuz prepaid is growing fast.

You should show me how to do that!

AT&T vs Sprint for Note 2

I am looking to purchase the Note 2 and I have the option of Sprint or AT&T, is there any real benefit of one carrier vs the other for this particular phone?

noitall77 said:
I am looking to purchase the Note 2 and I have the option of Sprint or AT&T, is there any real benefit of one carrier vs the other for this particular phone?
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Im pretty sure the phones are the exact same but with at&t your service may be better depending on your location. Sprint is behind on 4g and 4g lte coverage. Sprint has unlimited data and I don't think at&t offers that. So if I were you I would ask friends that live in your area to get their opinions or even google search and see if you can find any forums that tell about at&t coverage in your area. Hope I helped some!
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noitall77 said:
I am looking to purchase the Note 2 and I have the option of Sprint or AT&T, is there any real benefit of one carrier vs the other for this particular phone?
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They are the same I woukd go with sprint they are way cheaper and with a phone of this caliber you need unlimited. They are launching LTE pretty fast I got a great lte connection in Tampa Florida pretty much everywhere i go it suoer fast and consistent.
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Sprint also supposedly claims they want lte running anywhere 3g is eventually.... getting it everywhere I go anymore
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scottypeterson said:
Im pretty sure the phones are the exact same but with at&t your service may be better depending on your location. Sprint is behind on 4g and 4g lte coverage. Sprint has unlimited data and I don't think at&t offers that. So if I were you I would ask friends that live in your area to get their opinions or even google search and see if you can find any forums that tell about at&t coverage in your area. Hope I helped some!
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Pretty much this.

DarkManX4lf said:
Pretty much this.
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I have an unlimited data plan with AT&T that I have had for years so it looks like I will stick with AT&T due to coverage

noitall77 said:
I have an unlimited data plan with AT&T that I have had for years so it looks like I will stick with AT&T due to coverage
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Coverage is exactly what you should look at.
We have an att note 2 and a sprint note 2....equally fantastic. Coverage in my area is pretty much the same here, the wife just wants to stick with att since she has had them so long.
If one didnt have unlimited on att ...I would def look towards sprint
Is att still throttling after 5gb of use? Thats a huge factor on why I gave up my line
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Since AT&T throttles all unlimited data plans (except those that were grandfathered in) past 5gb/mo. But Sprint doesn't yet have the extensive LTE coverage that AT&T does. If you live in an area where Sprint has rolled out its 4G LTE network, or predominantly use Wifi, I'd suggest Sprint. On the other hand, if Sprint only has 3G in your home zone and you can't rely on wifi consistently when you need the higher speeds, AT&T may be the way to go. I've been with Sprint for nearly 15 years and don't mind waiting for their LTE network. (tho I certainly hope for sooner rather than later) For me, the bandwidth throttling on downloads over the 5GB/mo is a deal breaker. I typically use 25+GB/mo on my phone and Sprint never throttles by bandwidth.
* I'm Rick James, *****! *

I can confirm no throttling by Sprint. Since getting the GN2, I''m using over 50GB of data per month. It's up from the 25GB or more when I had the Evo 4G and used 3G almost exclusive; I had access to WiMax if I went to certain towns. I live in area LTE, but it's not everywhere, so I bounce between both all the time.
The other big difference, Sprint is CDMA and has the simcard built in. ATT is GMA, which is used world wide. ATT may not have the simcard build in, and thus world travel friendly. Something to consider if you plan on traveling.
Beyond that, I would just look at your data usages, carrier coverage, and reliability.
Lastly, you do realize we're going to be bias to Sprint.

lovekeiiy said:
I can confirm no throttling by Sprint. Since getting the GN2, I''m using over 50GB of data per month. It's up from the 25GB or more when I had the Evo 4G and used 3G almost exclusive; I had access to WiMax if I went to certain towns. I live in area LTE, but it's not everywhere, so I bounce between both all the time.
The other big difference, Sprint is CDMA and has the simcard built in. ATT is GMA, which is used world wide. ATT may not have the simcard build in, and thus world travel friendly. Something to consider if you plan on traveling.
Beyond that, I would just look at your data usages, carrier coverage, and reliability.
Lastly, you do realize we're going to be bias to Sprint.
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A slight correction here, the Sprint GN2 can be used "worldwide," but only in certain areas I believe. And you'll be paying out the ass for the service, as you cannot put a cheapy sim in there, you have to pay for Sprint's world service. Sucks
So yes if travel is something that you need to do with your GN2, ATT may be the better carrier. But you'll probably save a good $30 a month with Sprint, which is more than enough to cover a cheap burner phone purchase for when you're traveling. Keep the note on ya for wifi connectivity, use the burner for phone calls, save money

the above is correct that the phone as some kind of GSM radio in it. And that you pay a mighty fee to use it too. I wasn't thinking about that when I wrote my post. I know a lot people prefer to just sim card swap and be able to use the local, and cheap, service. Also, GSM is used workd wide. Whereas, CDMA is not. Some carriers in the USA used. There are a couple others carriers outside the USA, but they're far and few.

If you can hold out for Sprint LTE to get some decent nationwide coverage, go with Sprint. Unlimited data is CRUCIAL. 3G is manageable for now.

I would check with speedtest on an att and Sprint phone. Also check Sprint 4g lte coverage in your area. If they have it or are on list to get it then choose Sprint. Sprint keeps improving every week. But if it looks like Sprint won't be good for a while in your area and att is already good and you don't mind higher prices and tiered data then choose att.
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If you have unlimited At&T right now then by all means don't switch to sprint. My friend has a grandfathered at&t plan and im really jealous. Everywhere in texas that I actually have lte his speed test beats mine 15 mbs or more. His has 4g lte EVERYWHERE. I can't speak on behalf of the entire United States but as for Texas, you should go with at&t if you have unlimited.
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As I'm unsure where you are located, I'm sure this won't help you, but here is a Sprint lte speed test. At my house, just south of Baltimore.
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What's the coverage like in your area? How much data do you use? How much are you willing to pay?
If you do have "unlimited" grandfathered data, it is still throttled after a couple gigs, meaning you'd likely be better off with Sprint if they have the coverage.
Regarding price, Sprint is usually cheaper for family plans, but not necessarily for individuals.