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Does anyone else have any issue with the back button flaking? The arrow isn't as Sharp anymore it's more like a like with a splodge for and arrow.
Can show a picture if you want to see what I mean
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Mine is very similar. It isn't flaking, but the silver paint is almost completely rubbed away. The rest of the buttons are completely fine.
It's only a small problem, but I love this phone too much to replace it
Happening the exact same thing with my donnow why or what I can do to prevent it from flaking even more! this sucks cause I didnät even know that the buttons had some sort of cheap coating on them
are yours ingraved or just painted on? Mines are ingraved and with alot of use it doesn't seem to be rubbing off..
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Does anyone else have any issue with the back button flaking? The arrow isn't as Sharp anymore it's more like a like with a splodge for and arrow.
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Yep, exactly this. Bought late March and the first wear was this by early August. The whole end of the top arrow pointer has flaked off on the back button and I've never used nails for pressing it for such to exacerbate the wear nor let the phone get wet or leave exposed to above typical heat (etc).
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Wow do you lot have sandpaper for skin on your fingers?
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Same!
All other buttons are fine. Top part of the arrow head is getting bigger and bigger.
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Wow do you lot have sandpaper for skin on your fingers?
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No, but I definitely have a lumberjacks hands...
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My back button is fine, but the home button started to peel a bit
Maybe some batches of buttons are different ? Mine don't have this issue, but are starting to be unresponsive if I don't push quite hard on them.
Can confirm that button finishes do vary between Desires. I held my phone side by side with one in a Carphone Warehouse yesterday and noticed that the CW model had darker, shinier gunmetal buttons (like the black Desires?) whereas mine has the more matte, light grey buttons which have texture. I haven't had any issues with mine peeling thus far.
I noticed today that just above the bottom end of the volume rocker, between that and where the screen sits, there was a slight, sharp bump in the polycarbonate. I have managed to smooth it out some what by gently shaving it down with a sharp blade.
So i was wondering, Has anyone else noticed any defects in the casing. Things like sharp ridges, bumps or burr's?
I've not noticed anything on my phone but somebody else on this forum did have one where there was a very thin crack or molding line on one of the corners. They had it replaced IIRC.
My first one had a couple of "air bubbles" in the casing. They were very small. There was also a dark dot on the white surface on the back. I didn't swap the unit out for this..it had other problems.
The one I have now seems to be free of defects. But I did read other reports with similar things.
Perfection....not!
OK, so I'm not the only one. I guess i do have the plus side of i didn't get a white one so if there is any marks on the casing they won't show up as easily.
M3PH said:
I noticed today that just above the bottom end of the volume rocker, between that and where the screen sits, there was a slight, sharp bump in the polycarbonate. I have managed to smooth it out some what by gently shaving it down with a sharp blade.
So i was wondering, Has anyone else noticed any defects in the casing. Things like sharp ridges, bumps or burr's?
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I have a sharp bump/ imperfection on right below the microUSB slot. Good thing its virtually invisible unless you look for it.
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I have a sharp bump/ imperfection on right below the microUSB slot. Good thing its virtually invisible unless you look for it.
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I only noticed the one i had because my finger brsuhed over it. I would guess it's a burr from the molding process but then it would be in the same place on every device. Although if there are different molds for the grey/black and white ones then it may just be what i suspect.
As i said in an earlier post, you can get rid of it by using a sharp blade and running of it the bump gently a couple of times to shave it down
Could you post some pictures?
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Could you post some pictures?
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I would but it doesn't show up so there isn't much point.
Wont it show up in proper lightning angle?
I have on the back a small line which you can see only when holding the phone in proper lightning angle. It's hard to see, I had the phone for 15 days but I just noticed it today.
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It's on the opposite side to the dock pins.
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Wont it show up in proper lightning angle?
I have on the back a small line which you can see only when holding the phone in proper lightning angle. It's hard to see, I had the phone for 15 days but I just noticed it today.
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Nope. I was taking some shots of it today for a review i've done for installornot.com (link in my sig) and it just didn't show up.
But i can describe it as left over from plastic from an injection moulding process. You know how when plastic is injection moulded it leaves a sort of spike where the plastic was injected into the mould. It was exactly like that.
Ah! I've got that too plus the one in the opposite side of the dock I was explaining in the previous post.
Has any one found the same problem, the line on the back?
EDIT: I think it's the borders of the battery because I can see similar lines in proper lightning around the dock pins.
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I've found two small defects on the polycarbonate body: one near the 3.5mm jack plug, like a small imperfection such as if the body was hit by something thin like a blade, and another one almost invisible on the left side.. Oh, there is also a very little gray dot on the bottom, but this is really invisible to the most people
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Ah! I've got that too plus the one in the opposite side of the dock I was explaining in the previous post.
Has any one found the same problem, the line on the back?
EDIT: I think it's the borders of the battery because I can see similar lines in proper lightning around the dock pins.
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The moulding of these cases is really not all that precise but also partly due to the fact that the casing is heated to "glue" bits of plastic and components to the inside back of the case.
I have seen on the white version if you hold it under a spot light and look along its length so you can clearly see the matte mottled effect on the back...then slowly tip the phone back and forth and you will see two horizontal lines running left to right. One a bit above the HTC logo, and one near the speaker grill. It roughly conforms to where the battery is. I also notice that for the line above the HTC logo, towards the right, the moulding dips in ever so slightly. ONce again looking at the inside back, there is some kind of component fixed there. So the cases are just not that precise I'm afraid. Check some of the teardown pictures so you can see the inside of the back casing and you will understand what I mean. It is not just a shell, but an intricate moulding of internal bits as well.
When I first noticed this I was worried if the polycarbonate case was melting due to the heat in the phone. But I googled and found that polycarbonate doesn't start becoming soft until at least 130 degrees C, so it isn't going to be melting!
Your post made me feel better now
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The moulding of these cases is really not all that precise but also partly due to the fact that the casing is heated to "glue" bits of plastic and components to the inside back of the case.
I have seen on the white version if you hold it under a spot light and look along its length so you can clearly see the matte mottled effect on the back...then slowly tip the phone back and forth and you will see two horizontal lines running left to right. One a bit above the HTC logo, and one near the speaker grill. It roughly conforms to where the battery is. I also notice that for the line above the HTC logo, towards the right, the moulding dips in ever so slightly. ONce again looking at the inside back, there is some kind of component fixed there. So the cases are just not that precise I'm afraid. Check some of the teardown pictures so you can see the inside of the back casing and you will understand what I mean. It is not just a shell, but an intricate moulding of internal bits as well.
When I first noticed this I was worried if the polycarbonate case was melting due to the heat in the phone. But I googled and found that polycarbonate doesn't start becoming soft until at least 130 degrees C, so it isn't going to be melting!
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Good work there lad.
Last night while using the phone I noticed this slight clicking sound from the bottom right corner of the screen (touch-sensitive panel). So I kept pressing it and I wasn't hallucinating, its there. Also figured the sound also comes when I press the bottom right or bottom center edge of the phone. The creaking sound isn't loud but its noticeable when I hold the phone in specific angles and while typing if haptic feedback is on, I think the vibration also makes it happen(weird)
So except for this my HOX is fine and am wondering if I should get it changed.
Are there any long term effects to this? I'm starting to just ignore the sound and trying not to make it happen purposely
Depends, does it make the sound when you're using it normally? If it does I would consider swapping it, although you said everything else was fine.
If on the other hand, it makes the sound if you hold it in a certain way and push unusually hard then I would say stop intentionally pushing it in a weird way and use it properly.
People have been complaining about "screen flex" along the side of the phone when they push on the edge and run their fingers along the side. Want to get rid of the screen flex when you push the edge of your phone and move your finger along it? STOP PUSHING THE EDGE OF YOUR PHONE!!!
Just remember that some phones have had screen flickering, yellow marks and even scratches under the screen, you may not be as lucky as your were the first time if you choose to swap it.
what you described is not flex even, most mobile devices have a creak some where
Flex should mean the screen is literally loose to warrant an exchange
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Depends, does it make the sound when you're using it normally? If it does I would consider swapping it, although you said everything else was fine.
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The only time I've noticed this sound while using the phone is during haptic feedback from typing on the keyboard. I switched haptic feedback off to save battery and for this 'problem'
If on the other hand, it makes the sound if you hold it in a certain way and push unusually hard then I would say stop intentionally pushing it in a weird way and use it properly.
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I did reduce pushing it intentionally since last night after figuring it might mess it up more.
People have been complaining about "screen flex" along the side of the phone when they push on the edge and run their fingers along the side. Want to get rid of the screen flex when you push the edge of your phone and move your finger along it? STOP PUSHING THE EDGE OF YOUR PHONE!!!
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Yea after I got mind-f***ed I did press the edge a lot to be sure.(we humans ...) But now am controlling myself to not press the edge and use it normally.
Just remember that some phones have had screen flickering, yellow marks and even scratches under the screen, you may not be as lucky as your were the first time if you choose to swap it.
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Exactly why am thinking hard if I should get mine replaced. Another reason being I'll be leaving UAE(got the phone here) for good in a week and if by chance I do get a defective unit I'll waste a lot of time.
I'm not gonna play around with the edge anymore haha.
hamdir said:
what you described is not flex even, most mobile devices have a creak some where
Flex should mean the screen is literally loose to warrant an exchange
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Yes you're right a lot of electronics and gadgets have creaking parts. Mostly the ones made outa plastic though. Does your HOX creak too?
death__machine said:
Yes you're right a lot of electronics and gadgets have creaking parts. Mostly the ones made outa plastic though. Does your HOX creak too?
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my first flexed bad (soft one pressure, loose) on the left side, although i loved it so much because it had the much more dense yellowish sharp screen
second hox had a bad coating and slight flex on the left side, also hot pixels
third HOX my current is perfect, the screen is rigid on all sides expecially left and right, but it creaks if its around 50degree hot on two out of the four corners, very very slight creaks and only happens if it test it intentionally, it has the acer white screen with visible pixel grid, so the first hox screen i miss so much
im saying don't replace for a little reason bro it will be a bumpy ride, if the screen is loose then ok, you can see it by testing for light bleed in a dark room or if its physically moving
I think my screen is perfect. I can't figure how you're suggesting I test it, but pressing along the edges with slight pressure doesn't cause any change in the screen. The pixels are all good and no flickering. I think its a yellowish screen and not the bluish one.
How do you find out what LCD brand is on your HOX?
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I think my screen is perfect. I can't figure how you're suggesting I test it, but pressing along the edges with slight pressure doesn't cause any change in the screen. The pixels are all good and no flickering. I think its a yellowish screen and not the bluish one.
How do you find out what LCD brand is on your HOX?
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there is a guide somewhere on how to check the LCD
anyway it sounds perfect dont get rid of it!
Hmm I don't think I'll get it changed, I love it too much . Just have to get used to the occasional/random creak/click sounds from the device.
So a few days ago I began to notice that the back of my phone is now creaking, I first heard it when i went to pick my phone up the other morning and it sounded like an old hardwood floor creaking sound, it's progressively gotten worse to where now when i hold my phone during a call if i shift my hand at all the person on the other line can hear it. I was wondering if anyone else had this problem. The creaking seems to be isolated to (if you're staring at the back of the phone) the left half of the phone just below the power button and stops creaking above the phone model number beneath the glass.
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So a few days ago I began to notice that the back of my phone is now creaking, I first heard it when i went to pick my phone up the other morning and it sounded like an old hardwood floor creaking sound, it's progressively gotten worse to where now when i hold my phone during a call if i shift my hand at all the person on the other line can hear it. I was wondering if anyone else had this problem. The creaking seems to be isolated to (if you're staring at the back of the phone) the left half of the phone just below the power button and stops creaking above the phone model number beneath the glass.
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Mine is as solid as day 1
Same problem here.
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I've noticed this too but after putting my diztronic case over it, the creaking stopped.
My phone rattles when a tap my fingers next to the lens or put the phone down. No creakng yet.
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Ive noticed mine on the camera. Whenever i try to tap the back of the phone, it seems like its not perfectly fit or something.
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They have a similar thread on the international optimus g page with the same complaint. I wonder if the Nexus owners do to.
Edit: the Nexus has the same issue. Just Google nexus 4 and rattle. Seems pretty wide spread.
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They have a similar thread on the international optimus g page with the same complaint. I wonder if the Nexus owners do to.
Edit: the Nexus has the same issue. Just Google nexus 4 and rattle. Seems pretty wide spread.
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So this makes me curious as to what other defects its going to have, but I'm on to a different issue, phone dropped about 2" and the digitizer broke, so when my new screen comes in i will do a walk through tutorial on how to replace it... starting to wish i had gone with the GS3...
Mine is also doing that. Just started to notice it today. Kinda makes my opinion of the build quality a little less. But still love the phone. Minus the messaging bug. LOL.
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If I use my shoulder to hold the phone to my ear I get a creaking sound too. That's the only time I've heard it though. I imagine it has to do with the glass back.
Here, too. It's the camera side, right below it, that creaks. Fortunately, it's only noticeable when I deliberately squeeze it.
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solid here....this msg bug you guys are talking about, is it when your typing the sceen jumps and your back at the start of the msg?
Hey, so I just noticed that if I flip the phone over and orient it so the camera is on top, then it will creak when I push on the left side. You can also see the casing move in slightly. It's almost as if it's broken somewhere but you can't see any crack.
I thought the people at Best Buy had said the back was glass but it's looking more like cheap plastic at this point. Is it different on AT&T maybe?
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So this makes me curious as to what other defects its going to have, but I'm on to a different issue, phone dropped about 2" and the digitizer broke, so when my new screen comes in i will do a walk through tutorial on how to replace it... starting to wish i had gone with the GS3...
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I dropped mine from chest height and nothing happened to it. That really sucks for you. How much was the replacement screen?
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I dropped mine from chest height and nothing happened to it. That really sucks for you. How much was the replacement screen?
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The replacement screen was $130 went with 2 day shipping (Digitizer/LCD Assembly). Just the digitizer was only $60 but it's a good thing I went with the whole assembly because when i was trying to pull the glass out of the housing some of the shards came off by themselves, and revealed that LG "fusing" the glass to the lcd is literally glue covering the entire LCD making it damn near impossible to just replace the digitizer and make it look nice.
Also a few warnings to those disassembling their phones:
1) The battery isnt solid, more like cased in an extreemly soft metal so it will dent if not carefully removed (it's glued into the housing)
2) The chrome edge dent's very easily, have a small ding where i got impatient, TAKE YOUR TIME!
3) When removing the back cover don't cross over the volume rocker, power button, or USB port with the spudger. for the top of the back removal gently push the back cover forward dont try to shove your spudger in their, it wont work lol.
I'm going to be doing a full disassembly guide that's a lot easier to follow than the "engrish" version korea put out for us english speaking techs when my new roll of 3m tape comes in. =P
This cracking is caused by a small piece of sticky under the back cover you can either remove the sticky or ad some more this would prevent the cracking...
I posted a service guide here on XDA search my name for it... It will show how you can remove the back cover... just when taking it off remember the back can crack easy and the plastic can ding or dent rather easy and make sure you don't mess up the power button or the volume buttons
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solid here....this msg bug you guys are talking about, is it when your typing the sceen jumps and your back at the start of the msg?
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Recently i received my Xperia Z1C White. After some careful checking (that happens when you are a techy) i noticed that the frame bends slightly inwards at the back side. I made a small example of what i mean on a photo. The problem is. If you can press those parts of the frame inwards, what happens with the waterproof seal between that part of the frame and the plastic bezel on top of this? Is this the case with every Xperia Z1C or is this a rare problem?
I suspect this also is the reason why you can hear a sound while pressing the screen slightly.
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Recently i received my Xperia Z1C White. After some careful checking (that happens when you are a techy) i noticed that the frame bends slightly inwards at the back side. I made a small example of what i mean on a photo. The problem is. If you can press those parts of the frame inwards, what happens with the waterproof seal between that part of the frame and the plastic bezel on top of this? Is this the case with every Xperia Z1C or is this a rare problem?
I suspect this also is the reason why you can hear a sound while pressing the screen slightly.
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Same on my phone, but only the charging port side, and my phone squeaks too.
Me too - i can also press the frame inward. Oh my god, i´m a bit confused now...lets hope everything is ok and water is no problem for that...
*EDIT* But i have to say that this also is an issue to find on my Z1 !
Had a bit of convex shape on the back, barely noticeable. Hairdryer and pressing did the trick.
And no, don't be too harsh to the phone.
Glue seems to be unequally applicated.
Made in China after all.
I don't know why, but it doesn't seems any problem with my white phone.
I wonder hwo wide spread or problematic this is. On a normal phone this wouldnt be a problem at all. But on a waterproof phone every error can be a problem.
Mine seems to have the same microscopic gap on the back around the docking port.
I dunked it in a bowl of water and let it sit for 5 minutes. Took it out, dried it off - no problems.
The back of mine flexes when pressed hard in the center, but there are no gaps at the edges (even when pressed)
Is this something they'd accept a warranty replacement for? Where do you go about requesting such?
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Is this something they'd accept a warranty replacement for? Where do you go about requesting such?
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I think no warranty on this, they will probably consider it normal.
The problem with high precision designed devices like this and iphones is, that if something is a bit off you notice it easier.
I do regret it a bit that i didnt exchange it within the 7 days that it is possible to exchange a product after buying it in holland. But if it is widespread, then the case of a phone without the flexing frame/misaligned frame would be very small.
For anyone worried about the waterproof nature of their device, the only thing I can say is - test it. If the product works as intended you're golden. If not, you're covered by warranty.
I'm avid photographer and diver and with all new waterproof equipment, the first thing I do is test their waterproofing by either dunking them in the tub or the sink full of water.
You've bought a device with a capability which you should be able to trust. No need to find out 1 year later when you drop it in the toilet that your device is faulty.
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Mine seems to have the same microscopic gap on the back around the docking port.
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Same here, only a small gap around docking port that can be ever so slightly pressed in under higher-than-normal pressure, never noticed it in every day handling.
Mine keeps pulling hairs out of my beard!
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I believe there's a sensor-like surface when you open up one of the flaps (the micro-USB one I think). It's a small white square and it turns red when in contact with water.
This is how the service centres know that you are complying to proper usage. So do be careful not to get the internals wet
That would make sense
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I have exchanged mine, still a little flex around the charging port but the back is definitely more flush. No small gap and less cracking noise when pressing the back as well. Very content with the built quality of this phone now.