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Earlier this week my Sensation 4g died. I bought a Note 2. Little did I know that there were issues with it that I and others have with it, ie: no easy immediate way to do app to sd for instance. Another thing I wanted was to be able to add or take away data from installed apps by connecting the phone to a computer via usb and accessing the files that way, which again doesn't happen without some work.
Since then I have rooted the phone (according to the download mode screen, which says: current binary and system status is custom.
I have left everything stock except for the rooting part and installed Superuser and SuperSU and then tried to run Titanium Backup (free) when it said 'could not access root using \something\something\su command".
I have tried several other apps and methods of trying to do what I want (from the first paragraph) but none have succeeded either due lack of documentation (and I didn't know how to do a certain step or fix something) or it just didn't work.
So where am I at now? I have factory reset my phone and am now honestly not sure where to go or what to do from here. I've Googled and Googled but nothing quite seems to be able to fix what I need and if it does then it has the lack of documentation and can't help me.
Any thoughts or guides or something that anyone could post/link to? Thanks.
I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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funziebear said:
I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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If I'm not mistaken but kernels don't deal with being able to save apps to sd. I could be wrong since I don't dabble in android dev. Thanks though.
We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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Thanks. I did answer that I am running everything stock at the moment, just rooted, no kernel or rom. I have an 8gb class 4 microsd card. My root method was cf auto root. I also stated what I was hoping to achieve also (in my first paragraph). Hopefully this helps.
Oh, if possible I'd like the easiest way to remove or disable system apps like chat on or some of the tmobile stuff. I tried a couple different methods with that too but couldn't quite get it all to work.
I tried the qtadb app but couldn't get my device to be seen by the program on the computer and i tried that app because I had no idea where to start with regular adb, its been a long time since i've done any of this stuff.
To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer
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To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer
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Hmm ok thanks. I'll try those out when I get a chance. Thanks.
I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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Doesn't that just lead back to my first problem of not being able to get Titanium Backup to run on my phone?
Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.
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Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.
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Much easier to use odin from mr robinson. Its already been prerooted
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Is it possible to remove the bloatware apps on a HOX without having to flash a new Rom? I can deal with rooting my phone but the rom business is confusing and id rather keep Sense but get rid of the pointless apps if thats possible
Thanks, apologies if this has been covered before.
Here's what we're going to do.
Root your device.
Get "Root Explorer" or any other file explorer with root capabilities.
Mount R/O.
Go to "system ->app" and remove what you like.
Keep in mind that there are some system apps that shouldn't be removed though!
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Here's what we're going to do.
Root your device.
Get "Root Explorer" or any other file explorer with root capabilities.
Mount R/O.
Go to "system ->app" and remove what you like.
Keep in mind that there are some system apps that shouldn't be removed though!
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Thanks, will do.
Is it easy to upgrade rom, say when KLP is released?
You must make a nandroid backup directly after flashing the custom recovery. You need it to get back to full stock to be able to have official updates.
If you want to delete system apps i would like to recommend titanium backup.....you can uninstall and re-install system apps.
Removing Bloatware
Try an app called "Root App Delete". I tested it by removing one piece of bloatware and seems to work very well (you must be rooted).
Being over cautious I have disabled (rather than deleted) all other bloatware for 2 weeks now just to be sure all is ok to delete.
yes it is possible
captaincrayola said:
Is it possible to remove the bloatware apps on a HOX without having to flash a new Rom? I can deal with rooting my phone but the rom business is confusing and id rather keep Sense but get rid of the pointless apps if thats possible
Thanks, apologies if this has been covered before.
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There are many apps listed
you can try sd maid, rom toolbox, root uninstall,
See you have many options now
Thanks for your replies, can you not get OTA updates when you're rooted even if you stick with stock Rom then?
Yes you can but you have to leave the rom itself 100% stock (no removing of system apps) and you have to reflash the stock recovery after applying the root because you root the rom via a custom recovery.....i dont know exactly if a tool can root the rom without a custom recovery.....
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Hi, I just bought sgs4. It's from t-mobile with all their adds- wallpapers, programs etc. I would like to install stock android without any carrier rubbish. Could anyone help me to do this? I've already rooted my device and don't know what to do next. pls pls pls...
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Hi, I just bought sgs4. It's from t-mobile with all their adds- wallpapers, programs etc. I would like to install stock android without any carrier rubbish. Could anyone help me to do this? I've already rooted my device and don't know what to do next. pls pls pls...
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go to development section you will find roms there , just read and read.
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adigawi said:
Hi, I just bought sgs4. It's from t-mobile with all their adds- wallpapers, programs etc. I would like to install stock android without any carrier rubbish. Could anyone help me to do this? I've already rooted my device and don't know what to do next. pls pls pls...
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Unfortunately there is no such thing as a "stock" debloated rom right now for the S4, all of them have some customization.
If you are looking for a really excellent rom to flash "Wicked v3" check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265998
It is not stock but it has all the carrier and samsung bloatware removed and has many outstanding features.
Good luck!
So what firmware will I have if I will buy s4 directly from samsung store etc. That's something what I am looking for my s4.
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Unfortunately there is no such thing as a "stock" debloated rom right now for the S4, all of them have some customization.
If you are looking for a really excellent rom to flash "Wicked v3" check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265998
It is not stock but it has all the carrier and samsung bloatware removed and has many outstanding features.
Good luck!
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get titanium backup to remove any carrier bloatware apps, if you already have root then get a SU manager app and download goomanager and get TWRP recovery on your phone, after that you can download a stock.qmg to have the international i9500 boot up screen without the tmobile in it. that's as stock as I think you can get.
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aLdaRiS said:
get titanium backup to remove any carrier bloatware apps, if you already have root then get a SU manager app and download goomanager and get TWRP recovery on your phone, after that you can download a stock.qmg to have the international i9500 boot up screen without the tmobile in it. that's as stock as I think you can get.
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Titanium Backup no longer deletes all the bloatware system apps, it used be able to do remove
a lot of it before the S4 hit the scene. All Titanium can do now is simply "freeze" the system apps.
There are only perhaps 2-3 system apps at most which it can delete now, hopefully Titanium will
get updated so it will have the ability again to really do a good job getting rid of the bloatware.
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Misterjunky said:
Titanium Backup no longer deletes all the bloatware system apps, it used be able to do remove
a lot of it before the S4 hit the scene. All Titanium can do now is simply "freeze" the system apps.
There are only perhaps 2-3 system apps at most which it can delete now, hopefully Titanium will
get updated so it will have the ability again to really do a good job getting rid of the bloatware.
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Oh, I don't really use that to delete bloatware, I usually use root explorer and just delete the apps I just wanted to give him a easy workaround, you can also get an app called no more bloat o something like that, I works wonders.
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aLdaRiS said:
Oh, I don't really use that to delete bloatware, I usually use root explorer and just delete the apps I just wanted to give him a easy workaround, you can also get an app called no more bloat o something like that, I works wonders.
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Yes, root explorer can delete any files.
That's about the only way we can remove/delete bloatware now.
Even the "System App Remover" and the "Root Uninstaller" app
from the play store no longer removes/uninstall bloatware.
Those apps also need to be upgraded so they can delete bloatware in the S4.
OP just make sure that instead of deleting the apps with root explorer you 'move' them to a folder in your sd card, that way if you mess anything up you can always move the apps back where they belong. Best of luck.
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Misterjunky said:
Titanium Backup no longer deletes all the bloatware system apps, it used be able to do remove
a lot of it before the S4 hit the scene. All Titanium can do now is simply "freeze" the system apps.
There are only perhaps 2-3 system apps at most which it can delete now, hopefully Titanium will
get updated so it will have the ability again to really do a good job getting rid of the bloatware.
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??? No problems with TB whatsoever and i've been using it on the S4 since the beginning a month ago.
It deletes everything i want to, even without having a backup of the item.
I am quite happily using 4.2.2 (stock rooted) and just saw there is an official update for the TMo SGS4 to KitKat.
I have read about some issues with updating to KitKat (Knox etc) and wondered what others on this forum think...is it better to stay with 4.2.2 or go to KitKat?
Any helpful suggestions of the pros and cons would be appreciated.
I updated my baseband and then installed Fenny's "stock" KitKat ROM and I will never look back. It looks nicer, seems to operate more smoothly and gets a better signal in a lot of the areas I spend my time in. I'd never go without root, but it's worth the jump to a Knox-free version if you ask me.
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If you value using your sd card as storage or you use Root Explorer or Titanium Backup don't do it. Google, Android and Samsung have conspired to make the sd card usable for pictures and music storage almost exclusively. Kit Kat just made my 64gb card unusable. So be aware.It is a known issue.
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If you value using your sd card as storage or you use Root Explorer or Titanium Backup don't do it. Google, Android and Samsung have conspired to make the sd card usable for pictures and music storage almost exclusively. Kit Kat just made my 64gb card unusable. So be aware.It is a known issue.
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That's gotta be a kernel issue. I'm using warp drive 4.4.2 and restored my tibu backup and installed various apks I have stored on my external sd just like every other android version. Solid explorer also had full read/write access to everywhere I've ever needed it, be it the root directory, internal or external storage.
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I wasn't impressed with KK on my Nexus 4 so I still have 4.2.2 on my S4 too. I agree that a Knox-free upgrade to the radio can be good but have been too busy playing with Ubuntu Touch to make any changes on my daily driver.
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I have to say I also would be interested in some second opinions. Not for myself but worse. It's my wife GS4...:what:
I am kinda the maintainer of devices around the house. Presently I own an LG G2 but on my phone when the KitKat update hit it was craziness (as it always is) for about a week. People couldn't root, couldn't unlock, etc. I can't run the risk of F'ing up my wife's phone for an update and spending two days on a work around. I like the idea of doing what I did which is just installing TWRP (I think she has stock recovery I forget) and then simply flashing a stock, rooted, rom. I can then use Xposed to doctor up anything to else. So
# 1 is this a viable option? Could you hook a guy in with a link or two? (sorry to be that guy don't feel bad if you don't I can read lol)
# 2 is it even worth it? Are there camera improvements or features? Battery life improvements? Etc. I do like the app ops feature of KitKat. She doesn't have that presently.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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grncherry said:
If you value using your sd card as storage or you use Root Explorer or Titanium Backup don't do it. Google, Android and Samsung have conspired to make the sd card usable for pictures and music storage almost exclusively. Kit Kat just made my 64gb card unusable. So be aware.It is a known issue.
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If you are rooted, you can change 1 setting and make the SD card work like it did in Jellybean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684188
There is even a free app that will change the setting for you.
jcnbama said:
I have to say I also would be interested in some second opinions. Not for myself but worse. It's my wife GS4...:what:
I am kinda the maintainer of devices around the house. Presently I own an LG G2 but on my phone when the KitKat update hit it was craziness (as it always is) for about a week. People couldn't root, couldn't unlock, etc. I can't run the risk of F'ing up my wife's phone for an update and spending two days on a work around. I like the idea of doing what I did which is just installing TWRP (I think she has stock recovery I forget) and then simply flashing a stock, rooted, rom. I can then use Xposed to doctor up anything to else. So
# 1 is this a viable option? Could you hook a guy in with a link or two? (sorry to be that guy don't feel bad if you don't I can read lol)
# 2 is it even worth it? Are there camera improvements or features? Battery life improvements? Etc. I do like the app ops feature of KitKat. She doesn't have that presently.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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what version of Android is on your wife's stock GS4?
HKSpeed said:
what version of Android is on your wife's stock GS4?
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She is on 4.2.2 currently.
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She is on 4.2.2 currently.
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Root with this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005
Flash updated modem (optional but better signal) with this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678774
Stock rooted S4 4.4.2 ROM (I haven't tried this ROM): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2679913
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Root with this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005
Flash updated modem (optional but better signal) with this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678774
Stock rooted S4 4.4.2 ROM (I haven't tried this ROM): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2679913
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Updating the modem to NB4 while on JB before flashing kit kat has been giving better results in going from JB to kit kat and not experiencing Odin or recovery hangups.
Pp.:thumbup:
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What happens after the root ?
Do I have to run factory reset ?
Do all my settings stay the same ?
Do I now have the SD app and media transfer capabilities ?
Any feedback and info will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys
You should just Google that question and read about why you should root. Google is your friend.
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emeres said:
What happens after the root ?
Do I have to run factory reset ?
Do all my settings stay the same ?
Do I now have the SD app and media transfer capabilities ?
Any feedback and info will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys
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Nothing.
No.
Yes.
No.
Rooting just gives you access to the system partition. That is it. Nothing else. It does this by adding a system app that acts as a gateway over what apps can and can't have acecss to making changes to the system partition.
Once oyu are rooted you then can use apps and other tricks to add thigns like SD stoarge and stuff like that.
emeres said:
What happens after the root ?
Do I have to run factory reset ?
Do all my settings stay the same ?
Do I now have the SD app and media transfer capabilities ?
Any feedback and info will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys
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2 questions for you:
what Android and baseband versions is your S4 on?
what are you interested in doing after rooting? do you want to stay near-stock or change/customize everything?
I think I am going to use CyanogenMod Installer and be done with it. This seems to be the simplest and most safe solution for newbies like me.
Plus Cyanogen is really close to Kitkat UI so I will just go with that.
One question though:
I know that I don't have to root my phone to use the installer, is the phone being rooted using the installer ? Or does it stay unrooted with the new OS ?
emeres said:
I think I am going to use CyanogenMod Installer and be done with it. This seems to be the simplest and most safe solution for newbies like me.
Plus Cyanogen is really close to Kitkat UI so I will just go with that.
One question though:
I know that I don't have to root my phone to use the installer, is the phone being rooted using the installer ? Or does it stay unrooted with the new OS ?
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KitKat is not a UI. KitKat is a version of the Android operating system. The UI is determined by the ROM, which uses the operating system as a base.
You will find that Cyanogen UI is VERY different from the stock TouchWiz ROM UI that you have now. (You may like it better. Half of custom romusers prefer AOSP roms like CM over stock ROMs like TouchWiz or Sense. Half the people hate them. It's all about prefernce)
As fro root, root is not in the phone. Root is in the operating system itself. Cyanogen comes with root preinstalled, so by installing CM you will have root. All custom roms are pre-rooted like this. All root really is is an app in the system partition called Superuser. That's it.
Thanks for the info again.
My friend is trying to back up his data before we both proceed with the CyanogenMod Installer but has difficulties with backing up third party apps. He says he can back up Samsung apps with no problem but there is always a problem with third party apps. Any recommendation on good backup app ? He also purchased Titanium backup but he needs to root his phone to use it.
That's for my friend now I have one more question:
Will I have googleapps with cyanogenmod installer right from the start ? I still want to use google play store, gmail, google maps and so forth.
emeres said:
Thanks for the info again.
My friend is trying to back up his data before we both proceed with the CyanogenMod Installer but has difficulties with backing up third party apps. He says he can back up Samsung apps with no problem but there is always a problem with third party apps. Any recommendation on good backup app ? He also purchased Titanium backup but he needs to root his phone to use it.
That's for my friend now I have one more question:
Will I have googleapps with cyanogenmod installer right from the start ? I still want to use google play store, gmail, google maps and so forth.
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Just root the phone first and make your back ups.
CF Auto root. It takes 30 seconds. It's the easiest thing in the world. You literally CANNOT screw it up.
Root hte phone, make backups, then install CM.
Also, Helium backup is what I use. Makes everything into a clean batch operation. And it's free. But you need to be rooted.
If I don't need to back anything up should I still root my phone ? As you mentioned before CM Installer comes with the root.
And also after the CM is installed will I have an option to go back to my previous system ?
Will it install Stock Recovery ? And what does that mean ? I am sorry I am really new to all this. Just trying to learn.
emeres said:
If I don't need to back anything up should I still root my phone ? As you mentioned before CM Installer comes with the root.
And also after the CM is installed will I have an option to go back to my previous system ?
Will it install Stock Recovery ? And what does that mean ? I am sorry I am really new to all this. Just trying to learn.
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You can always go back via odin (search and ye shall find more aboit odin). Just install CM and be done with it. Take the plunge.
Sent from your phone. You should be more careful where you leave that thing.
One more and last question:
After CM installation using CM installer, do I get all google apps installed ? Such as Gmail, Maps, Google Voice Search ?
And is lookout app working with CM ?
emeres said:
One more and last question:
After CM installation using CM installer, do I get all google apps installed ? Such as Gmail, Maps, Google Voice Search ?
And is lookout app working with CM ?
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Not sure with the cm installer but I don't think so. Tge gapps package doesnt come with cm when you flash it in recovery. But its easy to do. Just download gapps, they are in every single rom thread on xda, and flash them in recovery
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