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Charging w/ USB cable Vs. Magnetic Dock/cable

Hi everyone
I recently came across a post where a Z1C owner mentioned that to prevent the phone from losing its "water resistance", he bought the DK32 magnetic charging dock for his phone. That made me worried, will charging the phone using USB cable everyday make the phone less water resistance? What could possibly be his/her reason behind this? The only benefit I could think of the DK32 is to make charging the phone much easier and comfortable while able to rest the phone for watching movies and stuff..... So my question is, is there a durability/longevity difference between charging the phone using USB cable or magnetic dock?
Thanks everyone :good:
Noodle

The manual says that. The protector of the USB connector, has some o-ring that make the phone waterproof. So, using it too much, will gone a damage the waterproof capabillies of the phone...

There is a cheaper charging cable which works very well so no need to spend extra bucks on the dock. I use it on my Z1c and it works very well.

bfstunoodle said:
Hi everyone
I recently came across a post where a Z1C owner mentioned that to prevent the phone from losing its "water resistance", he bought the DK32 magnetic charging dock for his phone. That made me worried, will charging the phone using USB cable everyday make the phone less water resistance? What could possibly be his/her reason behind this? The only benefit I could think of the DK32 is to make charging the phone much easier and comfortable while able to rest the phone for watching movies and stuff..... So my question is, is there a durability/longevity difference between charging the phone using USB cable or magnetic dock?
Thanks everyone :good:
Noodle
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Using USB cable everday means that you have to frequently open the USB Cover flap. If the seal ring of the USB cover flap worn, the water resistance will lose until you replace a new one.

Xperia Z1 wireless charging?

I have a Xperia Z1 and I was wondering if it is equipped with any functions that enables wireless charging (QI-enabled something)?
Tried googling but found no results other than some news on Xperia Z..
On the other hand, if Xperia Z1 does have it, is it possible to buy any wireless charging pad from ebay and charge it?

Don't know about it,too, but I dug into that tech a while ago in orderto know about pros and cons.
I have to admit, it's a convenient technology to just lay your mobile onto that charger and get it charged.
But there are two big disadvantages from my point of view:
Low efficiency - the induction tech used has a small efficiency, so there's a big loss of energy
Low charging power - the charging rate that is possible with the current tech is rather low, it takes AGES to have your phone fully charged, and I even read about people not getting any extra fuel because they used the phone during charge.
Personally speaking I like the magnetic charger plug for our phone a lot more, because it has hardly any loss and just takes a second to attach it, needing no closing of flaps upon removing.
Just my 2 cent

husky69 said:
Don't know about it,too, but I dug into that tech a while ago in orderto know about pros and cons.
I have to admit, it's a convenient technology to just lay your mobile onto that charger and get it charged.
But there are two big disadvantages from my point of view:
Low efficiency - the induction tech used has a small efficiency, so there's a big loss of energy
Low charging power - the charging rate that is possible with the current tech is rather low, it takes AGES to have your phone fully charged, and I even read about people not getting any extra fuel because they used the phone during charge.
Personally speaking I like the magnetic charger plug for our phone a lot more, because it has hardly any loss and just takes a second to attach it, needing no closing of flaps upon removing.
Just my 2 cent
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I have a n4 as well. Charge time is marginally longer/slower. The info you have read is incorrect based upon my and other users that have used wireless charging.
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Thanks guys. I do own the magnetic cable (dismantle it for the cable), however it is a nuisance that the magnetic cable only works with the charger adaptor and not with the PC..
Been trying to find alternative ways to get my phone charged other than opening the flaps and I thought wireless charging may be a better idea

Salik89 said:
Thanks guys. I do own the magnetic cable (dismantle it for the cable), however it is a nuisance that the magnetic cable only works with the charger adaptor and not with the PC..
Been trying to find alternative ways to get my phone charged other than opening the flaps and I thought wireless charging may be a better idea
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I use my magnetic cable to charge the phone via laptop and it works..not sure why not for u

ravi_buz said:
I use my magnetic cable to charge the phone via laptop and it works..not sure why not for u
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Really? Mine does not seems to be reading it, whether I plug it into my laptop/Desktop/Monitors
Is rooting requires for it to happen?

Salik89 said:
Really? Mine does not seems to be reading it, whether I plug it into my laptop/Desktop/Monitors
Is rooting requires for it to happen?
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Nope. Mine is stock. infact magnetic charger seems to charger at a faster rate for me from Laptop

I have 2 of the magnetic cables: one is original from the sony DK-31 dock and the other from japan. Although the both look identical to one another, they function differently.
The original one doesn't charge from a laptop and has to be used with an adapter
The generic one charges from a laptop and can be used with an adapter, however in a laptop it charges significantly slower. Has to charge all night and it still won't be a complete full charge in the morning - it will be close to full.

1.) The Z1 does not have any sort of wireless charging built in.
2.) The Z1 will charge via PC USB connection, however the output of the USB cable varies based on the standard.
** USB 2.0 can charge at a rate of up to 750mAh with concurrent data transmission. Without data, the charge rate maxes out at 5A at 5V.
** USB 3.0 can charge at a rate of up to 900mAh with concurrent data transmission. Without data, the charge rate maxes out at 5A at 5V.
** USB 3.1 can charge at a rate of up to 900mAh with concurrent data transmission. Without data, the charge rate maxes out at 2A at 5V and up to 5A at 12V or 20V.
3.) Qi wireless chargers are slower than wall chargers as well. A typical Qi wireless charger transmits power at a rate of 750mAh at 5V.
To put this all in perspective, the standard wall charger that comes with the Z1 charges over USB 2.0 at a rate of 1.5Ah at 5V.
A PC USB connection will typically be 50% slower at charging than the stock wall charger for the Z1.

Thanks all for the reply. Yup, my cable is inded the one from the Sony Charging Dock and hence it does not seems to be working with the computers unless it is paired with the adaptors.
At least now I know that Xperia Z1 does not comes with wireless modules.. Keep hoping that it may have.

Salik89 said:
Really? Mine does not seems to be reading it, whether I plug it into my laptop/Desktop/Monitors
Is rooting requires for it to happen?
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Mine doesnt do it either.
I removed the cable from the original sony dock.
3rd party adapters work plugged in to the computer..
weird!

So back to QI Charging...
Is there already any Case out there for the Z1?

Keichi-chan said:
So back to QI Charging...
Is there already any Case out there for the Z1?
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Not that I know of..

No definitely not.
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Wireless Charger ?

Hi,
I just received my Sony Smartwatch 3 and something looks weird to me. The charger plug is located in a not convenient location. So I'm wondering if an inductive charging is possible and what charger model would be compatible.
Thx.

no chance. Just have to fiddle with that bad boy. a cradle would help. I'd think a third party could develop a qi charging plate/case that you could leave plugged in. Something like this but sized correctly.

I really wonder why they didn't put magnetic charging contacts on one of the edges of the watch unit. Would have been so convenient since I already have Sony docks and USB cables with magnetic ends.

See I completely disagree. I like the fact that Sony have just made the charging by micro USB. So I only have to carry one charger that does my watch, phone and tablet. The positioning of the port is inconvenient, but I believe it is where it is so it is unseen and doesn't rub against your wrist. What they really need to package with the watch is a cable that is a decent length that has a right angle plug at the watch end to make it easier to insert.

This made my life a little easier:

dingbatt said:
See I completely disagree. I like the fact that Sony have just made the charging by micro USB. So I only have to carry one charger that does my watch, phone and tablet. The positioning of the port is inconvenient, but I believe it is where it is so it is unseen and doesn't rub against your wrist. What they really need to package with the watch is a cable that is a decent length that has a right angle plug at the watch end to make it easier to insert.
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Well they probably could have done both, I would have liked Qi as an option in addition to the uUSB. But oh well. I counted it as a trade off for the nascent nfc and wifi.

jwelch010 said:
This made my life a little easier:
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I have one and it is much easier.

Getting a znaps magnetic adapter for micro USB to try on my sw3. If it works, it will make charging much easier. I only worry that it will make the watch no longer waterproof.
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Joolz03 said:
Getting a znaps magnetic adapter for micro USB to try on my sw3. If it works, it will make charging much easier. I only worry that it will make the watch no longer waterproof.
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did it work? did you get any pics?

Tiltmfc said:
did it work? did you get any pics?
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Znaps has not arrived yet. Will update once I tried it out.
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Yesterday, I took my new Smartwatch 3 and inserted a Cisno Ultra Micro USB Magnetic Adapter Charger Cable. It works! What's more, even with the charging port's rubber flap bent backward, my wrist can't feel any difference; I'm using the metal (stainless steel) band and don't own the rubber band to test it with.
Here's a stock photo of the Cisno adapter attached to a phone:
I assume that any magnetic adapter that looks like this will work; in fact, the Cisno turned out to be a Wsken. That irked me: I specifically bought the Cisno because the seller claimed it's strictly for charging, not for data, and I didn't want to risk that my Sony watch or my Sony Z Ultra GPE phone would interpret the charger to be in data mode. In any case, the watch's battery charged rapidly, going from 1% to 100% in about 25 minutes.
For anyone who is considering the Sony Smartwatch 3 but finds micro-USB charging too much trouble, a magnetic charger is a game changer. Just remember that it requires a proprietary 3ft cable; you'll probably want to buy extra kits so you'll have additional cables for the office, the car, and your travel kit. I haven't found kits that offer a longer cable.

Paul in Maryland said:
Yesterday, I took my new Smartwatch 3 and inserted a Cisno
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Very nice idea thank you I bought one !

Received mine
Really very very easy to use and plug the sw3 for charge. It does not even bother wrist. Also very usefull for a phone in car, easiest to connect the usb cable in the dark.

Great idea. Thanks. Search were I van buy it in the Netherlands.
Will it work,with Apple chargers for the macbook air?
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I bought it in ebay.
This model is a mini usb port. I see also some model for iphone and ipad

Looks like a winner.

Just got mine - putting the adapter into the MicroUSB port was kind of scary as you have to press really hard (and might break something). I am really happy in the end though - makes charging so much easier.

I got mine from Tinydeals for under $4. I can confirm, the adapter doesn't bother me. All I need now is to find a replacement metal band.

clever! would it affect the water resistance though, having the rubber flap open like that? I went for the right-angled micro usb cord and it has been great so far.

certainly broke water resistance

[Q] Sony xperia z1 magnetic charger

I was just wondering if you can charge your xperia z1 by a magnetic charger and your original sony charger at the same time and if i do this will that make the charging procces faster or the same or would it even charge??

It depends on how the phone handles the current sources. If I had any advice to give you: don't do it. Best case scenario: it charges. Worst case: Burn baby burn. Aha this might be a little extreme, but I seriously don't think this is a good idea

When being charged via a magnetic source, the USB plug "takes over" when plugged in, and thus, the magnetic plug turns off (the phone stops accepting current from it).
I used my altimeter here and tested this, with an exposed source in both cables.

Works for me
I have the AppRadio in my car and use an MHL adapter to get the video out. (AppRadio 2 does not support Mira-link)
With the MHL adapter I often have charging issues, with the phone either still losing charge or just not gaining.
I am using a 12V to Twin USB and have one plug powering the MHL, and the other powering the magnetic charger.
With that setup I get a good charging and MHL data out. I don't know if I am getting a faster charge then just the Magnetic, but I am certainly getting faster then just USB.
On a side note I love that Sony added the magnetic charger option, but Hate how the implemented it.
My brother-in-law is right to give me a hard time about how weak the connection is compared to his apple macbook's magnetic charger.
anyway good luck with it. It won't (IMHO) cause any issues so test it and see.
C

So... if our brother-in-law compared apple old vs new than it's fine by me.
But comparing Sony and apple... Big Major LOL

[Q] few questions about the magnetic charger

for those who have it and used it for long time..
1) is it charging faster/slower/same than regularly charging? (with the same charger of course)
2) is it actually comfortable? after trying it, do you actually use it daily and enjoy or its a gimmick only and you went back to the regular cable?
3) is it causing any damages? bugs? weird stuffs?
I'm Z owner (it doesn't compatible with magnets) and I'm considering to upgrade to z2/3/3c with mainly reason of the magnetic charging..
Some experience sharing would really help me out here.. YouTube is only for unboxing and showing it but no real tips from experienced users..
Thanks.

Currently using a magnetor x adapter on my charger that I had previously. Its connects really easily and stays on. I read it's a bit stronger (magnetically) than stock.
It charges the device at a similar rate as plugged in but the main benefit is that you don't wear the seal which covers the microusb port.
When I'm done charging I simple unclip the adapter and stick it on my desk as my desk is steel.

1. From my measurement the Max charging at both connections is at ~1.8A until it reaches 90% at this point both drop to 0.8-1A.
If you buy a quick charger you have to stick with micro USB.
2. It's very comfortable but the z4 might drop the magnetic port as the micro USB port got waterproofed.
3. I'm too using the magnetor x cables but they come at an risk: the port can be pulled out by the stronger magnet after some time (the port is only glued in place). I got this fixed with using rewell model glue, it even kept my device waterproof. Sony warranty seems not to cover damaged ports as they aren't selling a charging cable them self (only desktop docks) and never intended the port to work with stronger magnets.
Send with my Xperia Z3 Compact

Thank you both! Really helpful info

Also, if you're buying the cable, consider the case you're going to use if any. Eg. DevilCase doesn't have a wide enough space to fit the old magnetor x.
wooki said:
3. I'm too using the magnetor x cables but they come at an risk: the port can be pulled out by the stronger magnet after some time (the port is only glued in place). I got this fixed with using rewell model glue, it even kept my device waterproof. Sony warranty seems not to cover damaged ports as they aren't selling a charging cable them self (only desktop docks) and never intended the port to work with stronger magnets.
Send with my Xperia Z3 Compact
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Wowwwwwww. Good heads up. I'm considering a dock now!

Mag connector is super convenient, second only to inductive charging.

I bought a few of the cheap "Sony" branded ones - magnet is not that strong so you have to line them up and make sure the cable is not kinked or they can pop off. Not good for car charging but I have only had to open the flaps a few times to flash or swap cards so they save major wear on the ports/flaps.
Much prefer this setup over inductive charging since inductive heats the phone and ages the battery faster.

like it
I use mine to charge my phone at night, so I don't really use the phone with it connected. I think it charges at roughly the same rate, and I couldn't go back to plugging it in! It's very convenient.

I also bought two from game-plus on eBay.
One is a microusb adapter and the other is a USB cable with mag on the end. Both are not as stable as the magnetor x but work just as good. The magnetor x1 isn't compatible with a DevilCase but these are. I'll try to post the links in a bit.
These are what I bought off ebay. Came from china:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221540961462
(white)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221550091355
both work although the snap on is not as secure as the magnetor X, it works. Got the same current pass through of around 1.2-1.4A with my Blackberry Playbook charger, the 2A one that is highly rated for the nexus 5.

I have three of the following cables (work, home and car) initially for my Z1C phone and later on my Z3C Tablet and they have been working fine for over 12 months
http://dx-box.com/brand-new-magnetic-usb-charging-cable-adapter-for-sony-xperia-z1-xperia-z-ultra.html
I upgraded to a Z3C phone over the weekend and the cable works fine with it too.
Whilst the magnet is not super strong, it is enough strong enough to deal with small movement of the phone. Never had cause to complain or curse it. The one I use in the car has never detached as a result of a bumpy road etc.

Bought Magnector X2 for my Xperia Z3 compact and it has an issue with charging a phone fully. Tried it for few times now and it charges only till 74% and stops and the chargers LED and phones screen flashes. When charging with USB everything is normal..

Pooshkis said:
Bought Magnector X2 for my Xperia Z3 compact and it has an issue with charging a phone fully. Tried it for few times now and it charges only till 74% and stops and the chargers LED and phones screen flashes. When charging with USB everything is normal..
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What cable fits well with the devil case bumper?
Hopefully in decent price and with strong magnet
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I use the magnetic charger and it charges just fine
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I think it charges faster as well
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