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Hey guys,
I got my brodit active car holder now for a few days and it seems it doesn't supply enough juice to the S2 while in use :-(
While navigating with navigon, it even loses charge, though it's connected .... that's really disapointing, since brodit normally supplies quality products.
Anyone else got the brodit active holder with the same problems?
boba
Not got the Brodit, but I have the same problem when using CoPilot and charging via the USB cable attached to a car charger. It can keep the charge at current level with CoPilot on, but will only charge with CoPilot off.
Also noticed if SII has less than 50% charge, it won't charge at all with CoPilot on.
Taking a punt on one of these to see if it makes a difference:
http://www.buyincoins.com/details/d...-for-ipad-iphone-4g-ipod-2a-product-2748.html
Which holder do you have exactly? Can you make a photo?
Does it toggle car dock in the S2? You can see a steering wheel in notification bar.
ALexander
I was thinking exactly the same thing this lunchtime. I have the cigarete lighter active Brodit mount and - if i makes any difference - a 2004 Vauxhall Astra H. I as wondering if I would have to turn off the nice things [like satellite view, etc] on the phone for it to survive the journey. Not happy.
boba23 said:
Well I don't know the exact reason yet, but it seems the S2 doesn't accept enough juice from the charger,
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Is the S2 in USB AC Mode?
Take a look here: Einstellungen - Telefoninfo - Status
Yesterday I modified a Brodit active car holder from the good old htc HD2 to fit the S2. Now I have fast charging (AC) and Car-Mode.
I currently own some chargers. Not the original one, well the UK Version with no use in Austria.
A 1A HTC Charger with USB socket, a 450mA noname charger with USB socket and a no name car charger with micro usb.
The car charger and the HTC charger show charging(AC) whilst the noname 450mA charger shows charging(USB)...
It would be interesting to measure the exact mA taken by the phone...
ALexander
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Hi all,
Okay, I've now tried four different chargers, and I've also had the phone replaced. Today, in a last attempt, I bought an official Samsung charger.
NONE of them work - even though the phone says "charging on AC" for all of them.
The only thing I haven't tried is a different car (which I'm going to do, once my neighbour gets home).
The one sensible suggestion I've read is that Samsung have screwed up somewhere in software and the phone can't draw enough juice.
Electronics is beyond my little brain, so I don't get why the GS2 charges from my netbook (even when it's only on battery) but won't charge in the car.
And I'm not talking when I'm using satnav. It won't charge at all. In fact (weirdly) it actually DISCHARGES much faster than it does if it's just sitting in my pocket.
I've logged this with my provider (Voda UK), because I refuse to get stuck with a useless phone for the next 18 months if this isn't sorted out. It's ludicrous. If I can't charge the phone in the car it's as good as useless to me.
UPDATE:
Okay, I just tried my neighbour's car (Vauxhall Astra) and the GS2 charged perfectly. 3% in four minutes. Pretty much what I get off the mains charger.
I wish I knew about electrics but I don't. Explanations will have to come from the boffins round here.
I tell you what, though. I don't really want to get a new car just to use my phone properly
Do you have any chsrger with a led?
If the led stays dark the cigarette lighgter of your car might need a new fuse.
Which car?
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Ive ordered one of these mounts and will report how it behaves in my 2008 Civic
barneypooch said:
UPDATE:
Okay, I just tried my neighbour's car (Vauxhall Astra) and the GS2 charged perfectly. 3% in four minutes. Pretty much what I get off the mains charger.
I wish I knew about electrics but I don't. Explanations will have to come from the boffins round here.
I tell you what, though. I don't really want to get a new car just to use my phone properly
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You might be able to change to a higher amp fuse in your car fusebox.
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You might be able to change to a higher amp fuse in your car fusebox.
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ROFL!! Genius!
Brodit mount arrived and looks great. Fit and design excellent and seems to charge as I would want.
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So what charger do you guys advice? Which charger does charge the phone, even while navigating with Navigon?
I got the Brodit active charger (BR512...), there isn't a problem with charging at all.
I think the issue you got is really car related. My guess:
a) your cigarette lighter port is poorly wired -> Measure voltage at the port with a voltmeter, it should be at least 12V DC (Edit: Even if it does there is still the possibility that your wiring is bad, showing 12V doesn't mean it can handle the current this charger needs)
b) your cigarette lighter port doesn't make a good contact to the brodit plug. Check for corrosion of the contacts, dust, dirt, etc. Some ports go bad after lots of plug in / out cycles.
If you have no idea what I'm talking about here, I'm pretty sure every car mechanic can fix your problem for a small amount of money
Edit: it's very possible this plug works with other chargers and phones and still fails with the S2 charger. The reason for this is the different ways chargers convert the car's 12V DC into 5V DC. Some might work down to 7V input, some already **** up at 11.8V
I have the same problem with my GSII trying to charge it with my 12V Ipod adapter...
I just arrive from a short travel with my Citroën Xsara and i almost got lost cose the phone discharged all the time while using IGO on the phone...
I don't think this is car related because there are so many people with different cars having this problem... so... Samsung wants me to buy a new car to be able to use their phone in travels?
Hi guys, just thought I'd try to clear up a few of things:
1. All phones can use more power than they can draw. Note that the more apps you use, the more juice you draw depending on their features.
2. Not all CLAs are the same. Most modern devices will need 2amps, but the majority of CLAs on the market are 1 - 1.2amp units.
3. Your device will stop charging if it reaches a certain temperature, without giving you any further indication that it is too hot. This is a common scenario if you've got a phone on the dash giving guidance, with the sun rays beating a back. And yes this does mean dedicated satnav devices have a greater operational temperature range than phones, usually a 15-20 degree difference (celcius).
4. If the CLA is being tripped out due to poor isolation (a lot of cars suffer from this) it will also stop charging.
5. In general terms, the lower the battery level of the device, the more juice it pulls. This is why you may find you ha email no problems getting a small charge when you start with a battery at 85%, but your phone dies if the battery is 50% or less.
Hope that helps.
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OK, I have no idea what the problem is. I have a Brodit active charger (the cig-plug version) for my Galaxy SII. It's not charging my phone AT ALL. There is no sound, nothing displayed on my phone when I connect it. I have the charger led (blue light) on, so I know it's working.
Things I have tried so far:
1. Asked for a replacement from Brodit. Got it, no difference.
2. Tried with a different car (I have a BMW, my wife a brand new Toyota Auris) - doesn't charge it either.
3. Tried a different no-name universal charger - it works perfectly well, the phone is charging as expected. Other things like the GPS device also work fine.
4. Tried a different kernel and ROM on my phone, still no success.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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OK, I have no idea what the problem is. I have a Brodit active charger (the cig-plug version) for my Galaxy SII. It's not charging my phone AT ALL. There is no sound, nothing displayed on my phone when I connect it. I have the charger led (blue light) on, so I know it's working.
Things I have tried so far:
1. Asked for a replacement from Brodit. Got it, no difference.
2. Tried with a different car (I have a BMW, my wife a brand new Toyota Auris) - doesn't charge it either.
3. Tried a different no-name universal charger - it works perfectly well, the phone is charging as expected. Other things like the GPS device also work fine.
4. Tried a different kernel and ROM on my phone, still no success.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Thats strange, in the first place i thought a faulty micro-usb or charger. But you got it replaced so can't be the problem.
I have a brodit with charger too, but i use it in a different way, meaning i can remove my holder and unplug it without unplugging my charger. ( near my holder i have a small connector that i can unplug).
What i did is cutting the cable from the charger and i did put a male usb port on it ( regular male usb port) and i have a Belkin charger with a usb port, this charger deliver 1A charging current and charge my phone even when i use my navigation. ( with bluetooth and gps on).
Your phones micro-usb seems to be fine too because it charge with other brands of chargers.
Your BMW delivers enough power i guess at your cigarette lighter plug, because it doesn't charge at the Toyota either and both not delivering enough power would be coincidence.
Anyway mine works perfect the way i did it and if i can remember it worked too with my original plug attached too. ( though the original one doesn't provide enough power sometimes to keep it charged while using navigation).
The only thing i can think of is that there is some stress-pressure on your connection between phone and holder connection and that one pin isn't connected properly, with the universal charger you only plug the micro-usb plug in your phone and the micro-usb plug can adjust freely to your phones micro-usb port.
Try to wiggle a bit with your phone when in the holder and see if the power comes on. Or try to connect a little device on your holders micro-usb port ( if you have something small that charge over micro-usb) and see if that works.
I have a Xperia Z1 and I was wondering if it is equipped with any functions that enables wireless charging (QI-enabled something)?
Tried googling but found no results other than some news on Xperia Z..
On the other hand, if Xperia Z1 does have it, is it possible to buy any wireless charging pad from ebay and charge it?
Don't know about it,too, but I dug into that tech a while ago in orderto know about pros and cons.
I have to admit, it's a convenient technology to just lay your mobile onto that charger and get it charged.
But there are two big disadvantages from my point of view:
Low efficiency - the induction tech used has a small efficiency, so there's a big loss of energy
Low charging power - the charging rate that is possible with the current tech is rather low, it takes AGES to have your phone fully charged, and I even read about people not getting any extra fuel because they used the phone during charge.
Personally speaking I like the magnetic charger plug for our phone a lot more, because it has hardly any loss and just takes a second to attach it, needing no closing of flaps upon removing.
Just my 2 cent
husky69 said:
Don't know about it,too, but I dug into that tech a while ago in orderto know about pros and cons.
I have to admit, it's a convenient technology to just lay your mobile onto that charger and get it charged.
But there are two big disadvantages from my point of view:
Low efficiency - the induction tech used has a small efficiency, so there's a big loss of energy
Low charging power - the charging rate that is possible with the current tech is rather low, it takes AGES to have your phone fully charged, and I even read about people not getting any extra fuel because they used the phone during charge.
Personally speaking I like the magnetic charger plug for our phone a lot more, because it has hardly any loss and just takes a second to attach it, needing no closing of flaps upon removing.
Just my 2 cent
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I have a n4 as well. Charge time is marginally longer/slower. The info you have read is incorrect based upon my and other users that have used wireless charging.
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Thanks guys. I do own the magnetic cable (dismantle it for the cable), however it is a nuisance that the magnetic cable only works with the charger adaptor and not with the PC..
Been trying to find alternative ways to get my phone charged other than opening the flaps and I thought wireless charging may be a better idea
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Thanks guys. I do own the magnetic cable (dismantle it for the cable), however it is a nuisance that the magnetic cable only works with the charger adaptor and not with the PC..
Been trying to find alternative ways to get my phone charged other than opening the flaps and I thought wireless charging may be a better idea
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I use my magnetic cable to charge the phone via laptop and it works..not sure why not for u
ravi_buz said:
I use my magnetic cable to charge the phone via laptop and it works..not sure why not for u
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Really? Mine does not seems to be reading it, whether I plug it into my laptop/Desktop/Monitors
Is rooting requires for it to happen?
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Really? Mine does not seems to be reading it, whether I plug it into my laptop/Desktop/Monitors
Is rooting requires for it to happen?
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Nope. Mine is stock. infact magnetic charger seems to charger at a faster rate for me from Laptop
I have 2 of the magnetic cables: one is original from the sony DK-31 dock and the other from japan. Although the both look identical to one another, they function differently.
The original one doesn't charge from a laptop and has to be used with an adapter
The generic one charges from a laptop and can be used with an adapter, however in a laptop it charges significantly slower. Has to charge all night and it still won't be a complete full charge in the morning - it will be close to full.
1.) The Z1 does not have any sort of wireless charging built in.
2.) The Z1 will charge via PC USB connection, however the output of the USB cable varies based on the standard.
** USB 2.0 can charge at a rate of up to 750mAh with concurrent data transmission. Without data, the charge rate maxes out at 5A at 5V.
** USB 3.0 can charge at a rate of up to 900mAh with concurrent data transmission. Without data, the charge rate maxes out at 5A at 5V.
** USB 3.1 can charge at a rate of up to 900mAh with concurrent data transmission. Without data, the charge rate maxes out at 2A at 5V and up to 5A at 12V or 20V.
3.) Qi wireless chargers are slower than wall chargers as well. A typical Qi wireless charger transmits power at a rate of 750mAh at 5V.
To put this all in perspective, the standard wall charger that comes with the Z1 charges over USB 2.0 at a rate of 1.5Ah at 5V.
A PC USB connection will typically be 50% slower at charging than the stock wall charger for the Z1.
Thanks all for the reply. Yup, my cable is inded the one from the Sony Charging Dock and hence it does not seems to be working with the computers unless it is paired with the adaptors.
At least now I know that Xperia Z1 does not comes with wireless modules.. Keep hoping that it may have.
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Really? Mine does not seems to be reading it, whether I plug it into my laptop/Desktop/Monitors
Is rooting requires for it to happen?
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Mine doesnt do it either.
I removed the cable from the original sony dock.
3rd party adapters work plugged in to the computer..
weird!
So back to QI Charging...
Is there already any Case out there for the Z1?
Keichi-chan said:
So back to QI Charging...
Is there already any Case out there for the Z1?
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Not that I know of..
No definitely not.
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Hi,
I'm the owner of a new Z1C and I'm wondering if it would be harmful for the battery to charge it with a normal usb cable different from the one supplied by Sony. I can imagine it should not be an issue, but I also tried to connect a older headphones to the Z1C and a popup warned me about a "Non-Sony headphones", so... I prefer to ask to be really sure.
Can I charge the phone with a normal usb cable? Thanks in advance,
I've actually been using the cable that came with my Kindle and it works perfectly, no issues at all. It charges quickly and I don't get any errors on my phone. I've also used the cable that came with my Ipega bluetooth controller and it works as well.
I would however recommend staying away from the wall adapters they sell at CVS/Walgreens near the front, and possibly the cables too. I noticed that whenever I plugged in my phone using the wall adapter, the touch screen wouldn't function properly and acted like every time I touched the screen, even if it was to quickly swipe, that I was pressing instead. Horrible.
I also use a non-Sony charger and it works fine. As long is it is a micro-usb charger it will be fine. Headphones on the other hand are different though like you said. I tried a pair of earphones from my older Sony Ericsson X8 and it tells me it is not a supported so yea...
Since the USB specification is quite rigorous there should be no problems, except for very cheap adapters which provide an unstable voltage.
Hello @dramatictone;,
It's safe to charge it with another charger as long as the ampere of the charger is not higher than 2A. However, most aftermarket chargers are rated at 1A, which means that it'll charge slower.
It's also important to buy a quality charger with the safety marks; if you don't want to risk burning down your house while charging over night. Don't buy those generic China chargers, they're not safe to use.
I hope my answer cleared any doubts.
Have a great day,
GethPrime
Thank you very much everybody, I'm more confident now
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Thank you very much everybody, I'm more confident now
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No problem, but remember to buy a quality charger and you'll be fine. However, any MicroUSB cable will be fine for charging, even cheap China ones
GethPrime said:
No problem, but remember to buy a quality charger and you'll be fine. However, any MicroUSB cable will be fine for charging, even cheap China ones
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Yep. I had planned to use the official Sony charger at home and the oldie Samsung Galaxy S charger (or even a microusb cable) when charging the phone at the office, but I wanted to be really sure first: I've been using the phone for three days now and I have only had to charge it just once, so I don't want to damage the battery now that I have a phone that lasts more than one day
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Yep. I had planned to use the official Sony charger at home and the oldie Samsung Galaxy S charger (or even a microusb cable) when charging the phone at the office, but I wanted to be really sure first: I've been using the phone for three days now and I have only had to charge it just once, so I don't want to damage the battery now that I have a phone that lasts more than one day
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Note that the old Samsung chargers are rated at 0,7A, so it'll take some time to charge. Other than that it'll work just fine.
Considering the Sony M4 has a cap-less USB port for charging (Link: http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...terproof-smartphone-with-octa-core-processor/), would you prefer to have a similar design on a smartwatch or would you go with tried and tested a magnetic charging port that exists on most of their phones?
So with capless usb port, the port is just exposed? But still remains water proof? Just a little confused by that.
I'm torn about charging methods. I love that the Sony SW3 has usb charging because that means I can use any charger I want, charge it in the car, charge it wherever because usb chargers are everywhere. But it's not the most convenient method either. So I really wouldn't like another charger mechanism that I have to worry about bringing with me everywhere if I will need to charge my watch. Tough decision. But I want to know more about this capless USB.
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So with capless usb port, the port is just exposed? But still remains water proof? Just a little confused by that.
I'm torn about charging methods. I love that the Sony SW3 has usb charging because that means I can use any charger I want, charge it in the car, charge it wherever because usb chargers are everywhere. But it's not the most convenient method either. So I really wouldn't like another charger mechanism that I have to worry about bringing with me everywhere if I will need to charge my watch. Tough decision. But I want to know more about this capless USB.
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The cap-less design is apparently water resistant even though the port is exposed. Sony does caveat by saying that the port should be completely dry before charging though.
From the press release: "Do note that the Xperia M4 Aqua has a capless USB port to connect and charge your smartphone. The USB port needs to be fully dried up before charging if the smartphone has been exposed to water."
Fascinating. I definitely wouldn't want to lose Micro-USB. That was a huge selling point. I don't get my watch wet except by accident, so keeping it dry isn't an issue with me. I would like that, but I'm curious how many actually do use the watch for short swims.
for those who have it and used it for long time..
1) is it charging faster/slower/same than regularly charging? (with the same charger of course)
2) is it actually comfortable? after trying it, do you actually use it daily and enjoy or its a gimmick only and you went back to the regular cable?
3) is it causing any damages? bugs? weird stuffs?
I'm Z owner (it doesn't compatible with magnets) and I'm considering to upgrade to z2/3/3c with mainly reason of the magnetic charging..
Some experience sharing would really help me out here.. YouTube is only for unboxing and showing it but no real tips from experienced users..
Thanks.
Currently using a magnetor x adapter on my charger that I had previously. Its connects really easily and stays on. I read it's a bit stronger (magnetically) than stock.
It charges the device at a similar rate as plugged in but the main benefit is that you don't wear the seal which covers the microusb port.
When I'm done charging I simple unclip the adapter and stick it on my desk as my desk is steel.
1. From my measurement the Max charging at both connections is at ~1.8A until it reaches 90% at this point both drop to 0.8-1A.
If you buy a quick charger you have to stick with micro USB.
2. It's very comfortable but the z4 might drop the magnetic port as the micro USB port got waterproofed.
3. I'm too using the magnetor x cables but they come at an risk: the port can be pulled out by the stronger magnet after some time (the port is only glued in place). I got this fixed with using rewell model glue, it even kept my device waterproof. Sony warranty seems not to cover damaged ports as they aren't selling a charging cable them self (only desktop docks) and never intended the port to work with stronger magnets.
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Thank you both! Really helpful info
Also, if you're buying the cable, consider the case you're going to use if any. Eg. DevilCase doesn't have a wide enough space to fit the old magnetor x.
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3. I'm too using the magnetor x cables but they come at an risk: the port can be pulled out by the stronger magnet after some time (the port is only glued in place). I got this fixed with using rewell model glue, it even kept my device waterproof. Sony warranty seems not to cover damaged ports as they aren't selling a charging cable them self (only desktop docks) and never intended the port to work with stronger magnets.
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Wowwwwwww. Good heads up. I'm considering a dock now!
Mag connector is super convenient, second only to inductive charging.
I bought a few of the cheap "Sony" branded ones - magnet is not that strong so you have to line them up and make sure the cable is not kinked or they can pop off. Not good for car charging but I have only had to open the flaps a few times to flash or swap cards so they save major wear on the ports/flaps.
Much prefer this setup over inductive charging since inductive heats the phone and ages the battery faster.
like it
I use mine to charge my phone at night, so I don't really use the phone with it connected. I think it charges at roughly the same rate, and I couldn't go back to plugging it in! It's very convenient.
I also bought two from game-plus on eBay.
One is a microusb adapter and the other is a USB cable with mag on the end. Both are not as stable as the magnetor x but work just as good. The magnetor x1 isn't compatible with a DevilCase but these are. I'll try to post the links in a bit.
These are what I bought off ebay. Came from china:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221540961462
(white)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221550091355
both work although the snap on is not as secure as the magnetor X, it works. Got the same current pass through of around 1.2-1.4A with my Blackberry Playbook charger, the 2A one that is highly rated for the nexus 5.
I have three of the following cables (work, home and car) initially for my Z1C phone and later on my Z3C Tablet and they have been working fine for over 12 months
http://dx-box.com/brand-new-magnetic-usb-charging-cable-adapter-for-sony-xperia-z1-xperia-z-ultra.html
I upgraded to a Z3C phone over the weekend and the cable works fine with it too.
Whilst the magnet is not super strong, it is enough strong enough to deal with small movement of the phone. Never had cause to complain or curse it. The one I use in the car has never detached as a result of a bumpy road etc.
Bought Magnector X2 for my Xperia Z3 compact and it has an issue with charging a phone fully. Tried it for few times now and it charges only till 74% and stops and the chargers LED and phones screen flashes. When charging with USB everything is normal..
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Bought Magnector X2 for my Xperia Z3 compact and it has an issue with charging a phone fully. Tried it for few times now and it charges only till 74% and stops and the chargers LED and phones screen flashes. When charging with USB everything is normal..
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What cable fits well with the devil case bumper?
Hopefully in decent price and with strong magnet
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I use the magnetic charger and it charges just fine
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I think it charges faster as well
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