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Hi,
I just received my Sony Smartwatch 3 and something looks weird to me. The charger plug is located in a not convenient location. So I'm wondering if an inductive charging is possible and what charger model would be compatible.
Thx.
no chance. Just have to fiddle with that bad boy. a cradle would help. I'd think a third party could develop a qi charging plate/case that you could leave plugged in. Something like this but sized correctly.
I really wonder why they didn't put magnetic charging contacts on one of the edges of the watch unit. Would have been so convenient since I already have Sony docks and USB cables with magnetic ends.
See I completely disagree. I like the fact that Sony have just made the charging by micro USB. So I only have to carry one charger that does my watch, phone and tablet. The positioning of the port is inconvenient, but I believe it is where it is so it is unseen and doesn't rub against your wrist. What they really need to package with the watch is a cable that is a decent length that has a right angle plug at the watch end to make it easier to insert.
This made my life a little easier:
dingbatt said:
See I completely disagree. I like the fact that Sony have just made the charging by micro USB. So I only have to carry one charger that does my watch, phone and tablet. The positioning of the port is inconvenient, but I believe it is where it is so it is unseen and doesn't rub against your wrist. What they really need to package with the watch is a cable that is a decent length that has a right angle plug at the watch end to make it easier to insert.
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Well they probably could have done both, I would have liked Qi as an option in addition to the uUSB. But oh well. I counted it as a trade off for the nascent nfc and wifi.
jwelch010 said:
This made my life a little easier:
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I have one and it is much easier.
Getting a znaps magnetic adapter for micro USB to try on my sw3. If it works, it will make charging much easier. I only worry that it will make the watch no longer waterproof.
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Joolz03 said:
Getting a znaps magnetic adapter for micro USB to try on my sw3. If it works, it will make charging much easier. I only worry that it will make the watch no longer waterproof.
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did it work? did you get any pics?
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did it work? did you get any pics?
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Znaps has not arrived yet. Will update once I tried it out.
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Yesterday, I took my new Smartwatch 3 and inserted a Cisno Ultra Micro USB Magnetic Adapter Charger Cable. It works! What's more, even with the charging port's rubber flap bent backward, my wrist can't feel any difference; I'm using the metal (stainless steel) band and don't own the rubber band to test it with.
Here's a stock photo of the Cisno adapter attached to a phone:
I assume that any magnetic adapter that looks like this will work; in fact, the Cisno turned out to be a Wsken. That irked me: I specifically bought the Cisno because the seller claimed it's strictly for charging, not for data, and I didn't want to risk that my Sony watch or my Sony Z Ultra GPE phone would interpret the charger to be in data mode. In any case, the watch's battery charged rapidly, going from 1% to 100% in about 25 minutes.
For anyone who is considering the Sony Smartwatch 3 but finds micro-USB charging too much trouble, a magnetic charger is a game changer. Just remember that it requires a proprietary 3ft cable; you'll probably want to buy extra kits so you'll have additional cables for the office, the car, and your travel kit. I haven't found kits that offer a longer cable.
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Yesterday, I took my new Smartwatch 3 and inserted a Cisno
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Very nice idea thank you I bought one !
Received mine
Really very very easy to use and plug the sw3 for charge. It does not even bother wrist. Also very usefull for a phone in car, easiest to connect the usb cable in the dark.
Great idea. Thanks. Search were I van buy it in the Netherlands.
Will it work,with Apple chargers for the macbook air?
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I bought it in ebay.
This model is a mini usb port. I see also some model for iphone and ipad
Looks like a winner.
Just got mine - putting the adapter into the MicroUSB port was kind of scary as you have to press really hard (and might break something). I am really happy in the end though - makes charging so much easier.
I got mine from Tinydeals for under $4. I can confirm, the adapter doesn't bother me. All I need now is to find a replacement metal band.
clever! would it affect the water resistance though, having the rubber flap open like that? I went for the right-angled micro usb cord and it has been great so far.
certainly broke water resistance
for those who have it and used it for long time..
1) is it charging faster/slower/same than regularly charging? (with the same charger of course)
2) is it actually comfortable? after trying it, do you actually use it daily and enjoy or its a gimmick only and you went back to the regular cable?
3) is it causing any damages? bugs? weird stuffs?
I'm Z owner (it doesn't compatible with magnets) and I'm considering to upgrade to z2/3/3c with mainly reason of the magnetic charging..
Some experience sharing would really help me out here.. YouTube is only for unboxing and showing it but no real tips from experienced users..
Thanks.
Currently using a magnetor x adapter on my charger that I had previously. Its connects really easily and stays on. I read it's a bit stronger (magnetically) than stock.
It charges the device at a similar rate as plugged in but the main benefit is that you don't wear the seal which covers the microusb port.
When I'm done charging I simple unclip the adapter and stick it on my desk as my desk is steel.
1. From my measurement the Max charging at both connections is at ~1.8A until it reaches 90% at this point both drop to 0.8-1A.
If you buy a quick charger you have to stick with micro USB.
2. It's very comfortable but the z4 might drop the magnetic port as the micro USB port got waterproofed.
3. I'm too using the magnetor x cables but they come at an risk: the port can be pulled out by the stronger magnet after some time (the port is only glued in place). I got this fixed with using rewell model glue, it even kept my device waterproof. Sony warranty seems not to cover damaged ports as they aren't selling a charging cable them self (only desktop docks) and never intended the port to work with stronger magnets.
Send with my Xperia Z3 Compact
Thank you both! Really helpful info
Also, if you're buying the cable, consider the case you're going to use if any. Eg. DevilCase doesn't have a wide enough space to fit the old magnetor x.
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3. I'm too using the magnetor x cables but they come at an risk: the port can be pulled out by the stronger magnet after some time (the port is only glued in place). I got this fixed with using rewell model glue, it even kept my device waterproof. Sony warranty seems not to cover damaged ports as they aren't selling a charging cable them self (only desktop docks) and never intended the port to work with stronger magnets.
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Wowwwwwww. Good heads up. I'm considering a dock now!
Mag connector is super convenient, second only to inductive charging.
I bought a few of the cheap "Sony" branded ones - magnet is not that strong so you have to line them up and make sure the cable is not kinked or they can pop off. Not good for car charging but I have only had to open the flaps a few times to flash or swap cards so they save major wear on the ports/flaps.
Much prefer this setup over inductive charging since inductive heats the phone and ages the battery faster.
like it
I use mine to charge my phone at night, so I don't really use the phone with it connected. I think it charges at roughly the same rate, and I couldn't go back to plugging it in! It's very convenient.
I also bought two from game-plus on eBay.
One is a microusb adapter and the other is a USB cable with mag on the end. Both are not as stable as the magnetor x but work just as good. The magnetor x1 isn't compatible with a DevilCase but these are. I'll try to post the links in a bit.
These are what I bought off ebay. Came from china:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221540961462
(white)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221550091355
both work although the snap on is not as secure as the magnetor X, it works. Got the same current pass through of around 1.2-1.4A with my Blackberry Playbook charger, the 2A one that is highly rated for the nexus 5.
I have three of the following cables (work, home and car) initially for my Z1C phone and later on my Z3C Tablet and they have been working fine for over 12 months
http://dx-box.com/brand-new-magnetic-usb-charging-cable-adapter-for-sony-xperia-z1-xperia-z-ultra.html
I upgraded to a Z3C phone over the weekend and the cable works fine with it too.
Whilst the magnet is not super strong, it is enough strong enough to deal with small movement of the phone. Never had cause to complain or curse it. The one I use in the car has never detached as a result of a bumpy road etc.
Bought Magnector X2 for my Xperia Z3 compact and it has an issue with charging a phone fully. Tried it for few times now and it charges only till 74% and stops and the chargers LED and phones screen flashes. When charging with USB everything is normal..
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Bought Magnector X2 for my Xperia Z3 compact and it has an issue with charging a phone fully. Tried it for few times now and it charges only till 74% and stops and the chargers LED and phones screen flashes. When charging with USB everything is normal..
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What cable fits well with the devil case bumper?
Hopefully in decent price and with strong magnet
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I use the magnetic charger and it charges just fine
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I think it charges faster as well
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So I'm looking into the possibility of making a wireless charging solution on my own. I have lots of wireless chargers at home, work, in the car, and I would really benefit from getting wireless charging working.
I took a USB Qi charging coil and soldered wires, which I then attached (well, just touched ) to either end of the magnetic connector, and it worked.
The difficulty I'm facing is, how can I keep these wires touching the magnetic charging port semi-permanently without doing anything dangerous like attempting to solder it directly.
So I'm wondering if anyone has any neat ideas of how I might rig this up. Any ideas would help a lot! If I come up with something good, I'll make a guide so others can do it.
You could try to get someone to 3D print a side piece similar to the one on the Z3 wireless charging case from sony: http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/accessories/wireless-charging-cover-wcr14/
Have them leave chambers to run the wire through.
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You could try to get someone to 3D print a side piece similar to the one on the Z3 wireless charging case from sony: http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/accessories/wireless-charging-cover-wcr14/
Have them leave chambers to run the wire through.
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I've been thinking about making my own wireless charging case similar to the sony branded case but using high quality leather, and an oem qi charging circuit with a 3d printed base clip with the circuit connectors integrated into the clip, just to ensure constant connectivity.
just looking into prices for scrap leather now.
duraaraa said:
So I'm looking into the possibility of making a wireless charging solution on my own. I have lots of wireless chargers at home, work, in the car, and I would really benefit from getting wireless charging working.
I took a USB Qi charging coil and soldered wires, which I then attached (well, just touched ) to either end of the magnetic connector, and it worked.
The difficulty I'm facing is, how can I keep these wires touching the magnetic charging port semi-permanently without doing anything dangerous like attempting to solder it directly.
So I'm wondering if anyone has any neat ideas of how I might rig this up. Any ideas would help a lot! If I come up with something good, I'll make a guide so others can do it.
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Have you tried tape? It would be covered up by your case anyway, right?
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Have you tried tape? It would be covered up by your case anyway, right?
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I've thought of tape but I've yet to figure out a way to tape it where it will definitely stay in place.
I might be able to get a case that would cover it, but my current cases have holes so that magnetic chargers could be plugged in.
I've decided to try using copper tape to connect a Qi coil to the magnetic dock port. I'll see how it goes. Hopefully it will be as easy as I'm hoping it will be.
So I finally managed to make it work. Unfortunately, I had to solder.
I gave up with trying to line things up just right and keep it in place, so I just soldered a Qi receiver to the magnetic charging port, wrapped it around to the back of the phone, and fit in a case. It charges wirelessly now, so I'm happy. Unfortunately, I don't know if I'll ever be able to clean it up in the future if I want to sell the phone. But to me, wireless charging was super important. I was also able to continue using my Z1C battery case which uses the magnetic port, so I'm pretty happy with the end result.
Pics?
it's ugly, but I'll put up pics when I get a chance.
Pictures as promised. I had been concerned adding this might block NFC, but NFC works just fine. Obviously, magnetic charging cables don't work (but a Z1C charging case I have does.)
It adds some thickness behind it so the case doesn't fit quite perfectly, but well enough to stay on. I didn't have thinner cables, but having some might have been able to decrease the thickness. Also, I'm not necessarily good at soldering, so I just did what I could.
But I can charge it on my bedside table and in my iOttie Qi dock in my car, so I'm cool with it.
hmm not pretty, but i guess it works. how is the charging speed?
you should be able to clean it up fine if you use some solder wick.
Awesome job!
Can you please give us a link for the receiver?
All I can find are with usb
ugly doesn't even start describing it... seriously, you ruined that phone. You could've cannibalized a 3rd party docking station instead
duraaraa,
Thanks for blazing this trail for us, mighty brave to solder to your phone like that! Now that you've had this set up for a few weeks, is it holding up ok? I'd just about give my left nut for an actual phone case that simply has a wireless receiver built in and taps into the magnetic charger pins, but I doubt anyone will ever make one since (I believe) the Z3C is discontinued. I mean, they make those giant external battery packs for the Z3C that use the pins, so why not a qi-compatible one??? Anyway, no way I'm soldering to my pins so I'm basically trying to mold a connector out of epoxy that I can squeeze between the side of the case and the pins. (Basically I pushed one of my magnetic cable connectors into a clay bar and filled w/epoxy.) It's still drying so I have no idea if it's feasible at all, but wanted to pop in and say thanks for the inspiration.
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duraaraa,
Thanks for blazing this trail for us, mighty brave to solder to your phone like that! Now that you've had this set up for a few weeks, is it holding up ok? I'd just about give my left nut for an actual phone case that simply has a wireless receiver built in and taps into the magnetic charger pins, but I doubt anyone will ever make one since (I believe) the Z3C is discontinued. I mean, they make those giant external battery packs for the Z3C that use the pins, so why not a qi-compatible one??? Anyway, no way I'm soldering to my pins so I'm basically trying to mold a connector out of epoxy that I can squeeze between the side of the case and the pins. (Basically I pushed one of my magnetic cable connectors into a clay bar and filled w/epoxy.) It's still drying so I have no idea if it's feasible at all, but wanted to pop in and say thanks for the inspiration.
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hows your build coming along mate I'd love to see how it looks.
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hows your build coming along mate I'd love to see how it looks.
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Not good I'm afraid my friend... My first attempt (trying to mold a connector out of epoxy using a clay mold) failed, the thing came out looking like a chewed up piece of gum and just wouldn't work. My next attempt involved slicing up a couple of cheap magnetic adapters and cables to try to trim down the connectors to something reasonably sized, but they become really brittle when you cut them that thin... Unfortunately, I think it'd take someone with some type of plastic molding equipment or maybe a 3d printer (that is capable of making really small, fine-detail parts) to make this thing. I'm still disappointed that Sony makes a wireless case for the Z3, but not the Z3C, but I've also come to realize that the Z3C has such good battery life that maybe I don't really need such a case. (I come from a long line of Nexus, HTC, and Samsung devices so I've become somewhat of a charging addict!)
tl;dr: Just enjoy the Z3C and use the handy magnetic dock for overnight charging.
just looking at the magnetic connectors on the z3c I think there might be a way but it'll add a couple more mm to the height, would need to get someone with a 3d printer, but if the wallet is made of leather and is inserted underneath, with the qi wireless pad, and two wires made into connection terminals which would then clip onto the phone so a solid connection is made between those terminals.
Just to answer some questions, it's held up. I think it's fine -- anyone desperate for Qi should just bite the bullet and solder. Charging speed is similar to really any other Qi-charged device.
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Awesome job!
Can you please give us a link for the receiver?
All I can find are with usb
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Sorry my response is so late!
It's the USB type. I un-soldered the USB ribbon and soldered a wire for the two connections.
So you would want to buy the USB version, I think.
Look into copper tape. I attempted this a little while back but I think my charging pad wasn't powerful enough. What charging pad are you using?
As we all know, the new Zenfone 2 is missing wireless charging capabilities, however there are multiple solutions to enable wireless charging on basically any phone.
Example is http://www.amazon.com/BEZALEL®-Wire..._1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1432149451&sr=1-4
It is a cover with a Qi receiver built in, which connects to the charging port and it also provides an independent micro usb port as a part of the case.
The absence of wireless charging in Zenfone 2 is a deal breaker for me ( don't judge) and as soon as an appropriate case is available, I'll get it and the phone as well.
Please post your findings here.
Would love to use wireless charging but using a cover like the one posted is out of question.
I love the slim form and feel of this phone. so i will have to live without QI and other solutions.
This will occupy the mUSB port but would probably be the best current solution.
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This will occupy the mUSB port but would probably be the best current solution.
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That's pretty cool. I like wireless charging because I'd rather not wear out my micro usb...but that setup kinda marries you to wireless charging all the time. I'd have to rig up wireless charging in the car and at work...not just at home. You use something like that?
nathan118 said:
That's pretty cool. I like wireless charging because I'd rather not wear out my micro usb...but that setup kinda marries you to wireless charging all the time. I'd have to rig up wireless charging in the car and at work...not just at home. You use something like that?
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Not sure if I'm going to stick with the ZF2, so I haven't gone out and done all that yet but qi adapters are pretty cheap now for both home and car. How effective some of the car ones are though are another story. iOttie has two models out now that look promising for the car.
There may also be the possibility of placing those adapters into a separate case just meant for wireless charging... remove the case if you need the mUSB port.]
Or... if they do release new back covers... get one that you install the qi adapter in and then one that you won't have the qi adapter in.
WHYYYYYYYYY
Why did Asus decide not to include the qi pins in the back ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>_<
what to do :'(
Here's a teardown: http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/asus-zenfone-2-teardown/
You could solder the DigiYes posted earlier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HI8JYFE) onto the usb board. Or you could probably just jam the wires into the connector for a non-permanent solution. The pictures of the DigiYes are a little conflicting, but if it does have leads for the data pins, you'd be best off omitting them (you'll be limited to 500ma qi charging).
This is of course assuming there's enough space to wedge the DigiYes between the back cover and phone.
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Here's a teardown: http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/asus-zenfone-2-teardown/
You could solder the DigiYes posted earlier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HI8JYFE) onto the usb board. Or you could probably just jam the wires into the connector for a non-permanent solution. The pictures of the DigiYes are a little conflicting, but if it does have leads for the data pins, you'd be best off omitting them (you'll be limited to 500ma qi charging).
This is of course assuming there's enough space to wedge the DigiYes between the back cover and phone.
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Which goes back to my point. Why did Asus purposdely omit to include QI/wireless charging pins on the back? It would had cost them hardly anything extra at all, and users could just have changed back cover to get wireless charging...
That one http://www.amazon.com/BLUBOON-Unive...2630&sr=8-2&keywords=qi+wireless+charger+1000 is 1000mA, if it does make a difference. But a case integrated receiver would be much better solution, if ever.
olegy said:
That one http://www.amazon.com/BLUBOON-Unive...2630&sr=8-2&keywords=qi+wireless+charger+1000 is 1000mA, if it does make a difference. But a case integrated receiver would be much better solution, if ever.
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I bought that model. I have a Qi charger (used with a Nexus 5) hooked up to a 2A USB Adapter, and it barely charges the Zenfone. I do not recommend. Maybe a 2A receiver would work better.
It's ridiculous.... why did asus decide not to offer a wireless charging solution similar to the previous samsung galaxies/lg.
Have the pins for charging on the back, and let the user change the case to a qi receiver case or add a qi receiver pad inside. this is honestly the only thing that disappoints on this phone (((((((((((((
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Here's a teardown: http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/asus-zenfone-2-teardown/
You could solder the DigiYes posted earlier (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HI8JYFE) onto the usb board. Or you could probably just jam the wires into the connector for a non-permanent solution. The pictures of the DigiYes are a little conflicting, but if it does have leads for the data pins, you'd be best off omitting them (you'll be limited to 500ma qi charging).
This is of course assuming there's enough space to wedge the DigiYes between the back cover and phone.
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I just received mine and there is enough space in the back cover for the receiver to fit in, albeit with a small bulge. It does show my phone as charging even when just held up to my Moto 360 cradle; whether or not it's charging, however, I have no idea.
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I just received mine and there is enough space in the back cover for the receiver to fit in, albeit with a small bulge. It does show my phone as charging even when just held up to my Moto 360 cradle; whether or not it's charging, however, I have no idea.
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Thanks for trying. Did you actually solder or just plug it in the usb port? If you plugged it in the usb port, does the cover close without damaging the cable?
I'm asking because if that works, we could potentially design a slightly thicker but hollow back case that could hold NFC and the wireless receive without unnatural bulges.
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Thanks for trying. Did you actually solder or just plug it in the usb port? If you plugged it in the usb port, does the cover close without damaging the cable?
I'm asking because if that works, we could potentially design a slightly thicker but hollow back case that could hold NFC and the wireless receive without unnatural bulges.
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It closes fine but there is a bulge and the cover is left slightly open.
Here's my solution. Doesn't look good but functional.
don't judge
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Yeah I judge, wireless charging its just another feature. A small battery, a slow processor or low memory now that's a real deal-breaker since your phone wont last a day, apps will run like hell and you will always have to micromanage just for things to run properly.
I'm way more pissed off at this phone not having a removable battery, not just because its a real deal-breaker during travel where I will be forced to lug around one of those brickish power banks but because Li-ION batteries have the lifespan of a mosquito. I already had 2 phones like that and the result was always a massive pain in the ass to deal with.
I rather buy a case with an extra battery than this thing
Three pins USB Board?
Hi there
Maybe some one knows, what are those three pins on the USB board, that are accessible without disassembly phone?? That should be connectors to charging instead of usb socket?
I have a qi charger built into my car. I do not like aftermarket charger added to the phone. So this is a deal breaker for me and will not consider any phones without buildin qi charger.
Looking to buy this phone and own a quick charging card like this. Is it possible to slip the card under the back cover (without a case) or will it cause it to bulge in too unsightly a manner?
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It closes fine but there is a bulge and the cover is left slightly open.
Here's my solution. Doesn't look good but functional.
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Slooop said:
Looking to buy this phone and own a quick charging card like this. Is it possible to slip the card under the back cover (without a case) or will it cause it to bulge in too unsightly a manner?
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It can but causes a gap near the usb port that I could not close. I would've run it inside if it didn't do that.
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It closes fine but there is a bulge and the cover is left slightly open.
Here's my solution. Doesn't look good but functional.
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Great Idea.
The speed of charge is 350 MAH ?? Is to slowly (USB PC charge normally 550 MAH)
Hi,
After going through all possible options of connecting a wireless receiver to a magnetic charging port, and having no luck, I come up with something even more simpler.
Any soldering was not an option, as I wanted to keep my phone waterproof when I need it.
So I got these three things:
- Case. I was looking for something slim, preferably with covered magnetic port, since I'm not going to use it anymore. (this case I bought from aliexpress)
- MicroSD cover, didn't wanna ruin original. Cover has to be there, without it microsd will get lost.
- Wireless receiver itself. Any should do, but the longer is the cable the better.
After being using it for a month, even magnetic charging now feels like too time consuming to me )
Here's how it looks.
You cut the cover of the USB port and sd card slot? How could it be waterproof anymore?
gyuszi02 said:
You cut the cover of the USB port and sd card slot? How could it be waterproof anymore?
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That's why I got a spare one, so I can replace it when I need it.
zhekazheka said:
After being using it for a month, even magnetic charging now feels like too time consuming to me )
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Huh ? How so ?
It's only 800mA charging current on your wireless charger...that's like half of the original charger used with a magnetic cable(1.5A)
I see. I meant that it takes time, especially at night, to to align magnetic connector. As far as charging time, it takes about 4hrs.
I like this a lot. Thanks for posting. Where did you get the spare cover?
For me this would be most useful in the car. I'd still like to use the magnetic dock on my desk so now I'm off to find a dock-friendly case.
Do you have links to the stuff you bought for that?
How did you create such a small micro usb connector?