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I'm planning to upgrade to the LG G4 from the G2, because I have enjoyed the G2 mostly, other than the fact that it went into boot loops and the wifi stopped working.. but I have a few questions.
1) If the speakers are on the back, can you hear properly when you're holding something, doesn't your hand cover it? And even if you're holding it horizontally to watch a video or something, is the sound quailty bad?
2) I heard that LG officially announced that they released phones that have boot loop problems. So after a year when my warranty runs out, and the boot loop starts, will they still fix it?
3) How is the quality of the Android 6.0? I live in Canada using TELUS.
4) Also when the LG G5 comes out in a week, will the price drop?
I would really appreciate if someone would answer these questions. Thanks!
Minchan_5 said:
I'm planning to upgrade to the LG G4 from the G2, because I have enjoyed the G2 mostly, other than the fact that it went into boot loops and the wifi stopped working.. but I have a few questions.
1) If the speakers are on the back, can you hear properly when you're holding something, doesn't your hand cover it? And even if you're holding it horizontally to watch a video or something, is the sound quailty bad?
2) I heard that LG officially announced that they released phones that have boot loop problems. So after a year when my warranty runs out, and the boot loop starts, will they still fix it?
3) How is the quality of the Android 6.0? I live in Canada using TELUS.
4) Also when the LG G5 comes out in a week, will the price drop?
I would really appreciate if someone would answer these questions. Thanks!
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Hi- Almost a week ago, even I upgraded my phone from G2 to G4. So far the experience is really awesome. Please find my answers below. Note: I am not a phone expert and I am putting across my views as a normal person would be able to explain.
1) The shape of the LG G4 is in such a way that the back speaker will not lie flat on its face at any time. So whenever the phone rings it will loud enough. Also when playing games I don't think the speaker will be covered with anyone hand. Again the positioning of the G4 comes into picture. I have installed couple of games and I have not found any issues.
2) Yes. that is correct. LG also accepted the fact about the boot load issues. This issues were primarily found on phones that were released before May or June and the motherboard was replaced free of cost by the Service Center. The one that I bought has the manufactured date as of December 2015 and so far not even once I faced any boot load issue. Probably you can check the manufactured date.
3) I have no clue about Android 6 as I live in India and I am still waiting for the update.
4) Regarding the price factor, I doubt you'll see a drastic cut in the price once the G5 is released.
I need not tell the good things about the phone cause you might have already learnt about it. But yes, it now supports quick charge. :laugh:
Thanks!
Now can someone who has used android 6.0?? per chance??
I have had the phone for 3 weeks soon, and it has two serious problems: keyboard is laggy, meaning that when you write fast, it won't recognize all the presses. There supposedly is an update for the LG keyboard regarding that issue, however I don't have any updates available for the keyboard so I think I already have it, but it is still very laggy. Which leads to a conclusion that the issue is either throttling down the CPU or then it's a digitizer issue not being sensitive enough. Note that unlike Samsung phones, LG doesn't have an option to change the sensitivity of the screen. But as I write now, the lag issue appears when typing and it freezes the keyboard for about 0,5 secs and also the screen too, so it would indicate either a software bug or CPU being throttles or who knows what. Either way, I hate that one of the most recent LG flagships have a problem of this kind... Regarding warranty, I contacted LG Finland and they just replied that most likely it has no problem, even though I've never had any issues like these on my earlier Samsung phones...
Also, Knock code doesn't always wake up the device, neither does double tapping the screen, which most likely goes back to either CPU, software or digitizer issues. Hate it when I should be able to wake my phone when I'm having the phone in my car holder and it won't wake up because of these issues with the device. I do have the 6.0 update available but haven't had the time to install it yet, also i've heard that as it handles something differently compared to Lollipop, some apps might not work and so on... Which is turning my willingness to update down a bit.
The phone has potential, and it's a shame that because of these issues, I might go back to Samsung soon.
heartagramm said:
I have had the phone for 3 weeks soon, and it has two serious problems: keyboard is laggy, meaning that when you write fast, it won't recognize all the presses. There supposedly is an update for the LG keyboard regarding that issue, however I don't have any updates available for the keyboard so I think I already have it, but it is still very laggy. Which leads to a conclusion that the issue is either throttling down the CPU or then it's a digitizer issue not being sensitive enough. Note that unlike Samsung phones, LG doesn't have an option to change the sensitivity of the screen. But as I write now, the lag issue appears when typing and it freezes the keyboard for about 0,5 secs and also the screen too, so it would indicate either a software bug or CPU being throttles or who knows what. Either way, I hate that one of the most recent LG flagships have a problem of this kind... Regarding warranty, I contacted LG Finland and they just replied that most likely it has no problem, even though I've never had any issues like these on my earlier Samsung phones...
Also, Knock code doesn't always wake up the device, neither does double tapping the screen, which most likely goes back to either CPU, software or digitizer issues. Hate it when I should be able to wake my phone when I'm having the phone in my car holder and it won't wake up because of these issues with the device. I do have the 6.0 update available but haven't had the time to install it yet, also i've heard that as it handles something differently compared to Lollipop, some apps might not work and so on... Which is turning my willingness to update down a bit.
The phone has potential, and it's a shame that because of these issues, I might go back to Samsung soon.
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Thanks for you opinion!
i disagree with heartagramm.
when I bought the phone (2 weeks ago) it came with the 10a firmware (the first one, i think) and it was super smooth, no lag issues, everything it's awesome!
The bootloop issue its present on the 505 devices, (the first releases, manufactered in may)
Hey all
As the title states I'm thinking of moving on up to a G4 from a Nexus 5 (5X specs are terribly underwhelming to me, haha) and I'm this close to giving in and buying a used H818P in pristine condition. Just a couple questions
1. How prevalent exactly IS the bootloop/stuck at bootlogo issue? Is there a way I can reliably avoid it (serial numbers? undervolting?) and is there an established fix that can take me back from the brink if it happens? Searching XDA and Google has me very nervous with the ambiguity
2. Are there stock AOSP images/flashable zips for H818P? I don't really go for fancy feature-heavy ROMS.
Help a guy out, haha. An expensive paperweight is the last thing I need! Thanks!
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Hey all
As the title states I'm thinking of moving on up to a G4 from a Nexus 5 (5X specs are terribly underwhelming to me, haha) and I'm this close to giving in and buying a used H818P in pristine condition. Just a couple questions
1. How prevalent exactly IS the bootloop/stuck at bootlogo issue? Is there a way I can reliably avoid it (serial numbers? undervolting?) and is there an established fix that can take me back from the brink if it happens? Searching XDA and Google has me very nervous with the ambiguity
2. Are there stock AOSP images/flashable zips for H818P? I don't really go for fancy feature-heavy ROMS.
Help a guy out, haha. An expensive paperweight is the last thing I need! Thanks!
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right now i dont see manny bootloops like before but i say as long as you get a 6xx serial chances are very low. there hasnt been anymore massive reports of bootloops. so make sure you have a phone that in any way you can claim warranty.
only tmobile h811 and some european h815- you need to see wich ones can have bootloader unlocked rest is stock rom. maybe only root. in the case that you are in LP.
Ah this is something I didn't know, haha. No AOSP is obviously a deal breaker for me. Off to search for a 6xx serial H815 on eBay, or just stick w my trusty N5 until a good flagship comes round
Thanks fellows!
I wouldn't recommend it. My first H815 G4 (S/N 506) bootlooped, after that I got a replacement (bricked phone got stolen while on its way to repairs) with a 512 serial number.
Although anything higher than 510 was said to be "safe", just yesterday evening that replacement H815 G4 bootlooped, as well.
So from my personal experience there don't seem to be "safe serial numbers" and I'd definitely not buy a used phone (as that will probably have only a very short warranty or even none at all).
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Ah this is something I didn't know, haha. No AOSP is obviously a deal breaker for me. Off to search for a 6xx serial H815 on eBay, or just stick w my trusty N5 until a good flagship comes round
Thanks fellows!
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but make sure the h815 you getting can be bootloader unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/unlock-list-lg-g4-variants-unlocked-t3262621
Well for all I've been able to gather - and I was made to read up by my own SN508.. one dying on me - teh internets will make you thing all '15-manufactured (SN5xx) G4's will bootloop sooner or later, the reported expectancy being a year and a day ))) (No kidding here, mine died a year and 2 month, and I wasn't running much of core-heating stuff like games or bloody arsebook app)
The avalanche of reports seem to cut off around SN603, give or take, tho
a) there's a vague talk about refurbs with SN6xx being basically old bootloopers factory-baked
b) have to keep in mind that with the average life expectancy of "a year and a day" there are TWO possible reasons for lack of '16-year bootloop reports:
- LG fixed it
- It's the same ****, only it's time didn't come yet.
I can't help but admit it is an amazing phone while it works. Not to mention the only one of recent flagships (barring g5 of the same) with both replaceable battery and a SD card - a trend I so wanted to support with my buck.
With all the knowledge and experience I have now I'd say this: new one, SN610+, at a bargain price AND with warranty - a buy. Else - skip.
Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers
Orcam said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers
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1. Buy a model which can be unlocked (like the h815 international)
2. Ensure that the serial starts with 603 or higher (604,605...) best is to ensure it was not refurbished (e.g. motherboard replaced)
3. Ensure you will have warranty for at least 1 year
4. Do a regular backup once you've received your device
I own 2 models with serial 60x since 1 year without any single problem and heavy usage.
I saw no single prove(!) that a non refurbished 60x serial device has got that infamous bootloop yet.
Guarantees.. you will get none. For absolute no device. That's why a valid warranty is important.
Jm5c
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steadfasterX said:
1. Buy a model which can be unlocked (like the h815 international)
2. Ensure that the serial starts with 603 or higher (604,605...) best is to ensure it was not refurbished (e.g. motherboard replaced)
3. Ensure you will have warranty for at least 1 year
4. Do a regular backup once you've received your device
I own 2 models with serial 60x since 1 year without any single problem and heavy usage.
I saw no single prove(!) that a non refurbished 60x serial device has got that infamous bootloop yet.
Guarantees.. you will get none. For absolute no device. That's why a valid warranty is important.
Jm5c
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I see. So there haven't been any boot loop reports with 60x model numbers? I thought I read somewhere that LG hadn't fixed the problem at all?
I am planning to get the international version. However I don't know about the warranty, it seems like a waste of time. If my G4 ended up bootlooping I don't really think LG can truly fix the problem under warranty anyway. Either I get a 60x G4 without a warranty and it doesn't bootloop, or I get one and it does bootloop and if I also had a warranty it would be useless since that would mean that LG hasn't actually fixed the problem at all, and is unable to. It probably also means that at this late point with the G4 being an older device, they wont be trying to fix the G4 bootloop issue either.
I just want some more people who have G4s with later model numbers to give me some faith in buying one.
I know that fixed phones by lg with warranty still having that problem. But i dont know anything about 60x series
Orcam said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers
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first i would either keep the g3 or find something else.
i havnt had a bootloop issue yet but locked bl and just the scare of knowing my device is unusable any day. puts me on edge
now i know some people arent as ocd or anal as I. but if u are any where near what i am you dont need the stress in your life. lol
its a great device i do have root just no twrp and it has lots of potential even like it is on stock rom.
im glad i got it but ive sold it 3 times now and have ended up with it back in decent shape so its most def a soldier
i dont and have never had a waranty i did a thermal paste cooling mod on mine and for all i know that paste is whats kept the solder joint from breaking.
never did actually figure out how to tel what serial num mine has but its not a refurb and it was manfacrd in 10 of 2015
some of the g4s have a flashable tot file to "fix the issue" by shutting down the damaged cores but essentially turning it into a mid ranged quad core phone which i have shut mine down and have tested iffrent lowered clock speeds and still ok. not blazing fast but works.
You could also just wait some days for the g6
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-plans-to-make-lg-g6-available-earlier-to-avoid-competition/
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA Labs
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I see. So there haven't been any boot loop reports with 60x model numbers? I thought I read somewhere that LG hadn't fixed the problem at all?
I am planning to get the international version. However I don't know about the warranty, it seems like a waste of time. If my G4 ended up bootlooping I don't really think LG can truly fix the problem under warranty anyway. Either I get a 60x G4 without a warranty and it doesn't bootloop, or I get one and it does bootloop and if I also had a warranty it would be useless since that would mean that LG hasn't actually fixed the problem at all, and is unable to. It probably also means that at this late point with the G4 being an older device, they wont be trying to fix the G4 bootloop issue either.
I just want some more people who have G4s with later model numbers to give me some faith in buying one.
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if you in USA get h811 and check the list of h815 that can be unlocked if you not in usa.
6xx have bootloops i have heard of 1-2 603's so the chances are very low compared to the first one.
i have been checking the thread here and only a few 6xx
TheMadScientist420 said:
first i would either keep the g3 or find something else.
i havnt had a bootloop issue yet but locked bl and just the scare of knowing my device is unusable any day. puts me on edge
now i know some people arent as ocd or anal as I. but if u are any where near what i am you dont need the stress in your life. lol
its a great device i do have root just no twrp and it has lots of potential even like it is on stock rom.
im glad i got it but ive sold it 3 times now and have ended up with it back in decent shape so its most def a soldier
i dont and have never had a waranty i did a thermal paste cooling mod on mine and for all i know that paste is whats kept the solder joint from breaking.
never did actually figure out how to tel what serial num mine has but its not a refurb and it was manfacrd in 10 of 2015
some of the g4s have a flashable tot file to "fix the issue" by shutting down the damaged cores but essentially turning it into a mid ranged quad core phone which i have shut mine down and have tested iffrent lowered clock speeds and still ok. not blazing fast but works.
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Yeah I did read something about that core shutting down fix. So you have had yours for a year? I don't know how widespread the problem is, because most people won't go to the forums to praise a working phone. I really want to get one. But only if I can be reasonably comfortable that I am able to mod it or something to prevent a bootloop occuring. What is your use like? Do you game? I don't. It will be used lightly compared to most. I never install games.
steadfasterX said:
You could also just wait some days for the g6
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-plans-to-make-lg-g6-available-earlier-to-avoid-competition/
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Yeah I saw that too. I don't want to spend so much on a new phone. Who knows, could have an even worse hardware fault.
raptorddd said:
if you in USA get h811 and check the list of h815 that can be unlocked if you not in usa.
6xx have bootloops i have heard of 1-2 603's so the chances are very low compared to the first one.
i have been checking the thread here and only a few 6xx
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I'm not in the US so I would get a H815. So do you think the reason for less bootloops being reported is due to people not buying the device anymore? Less people have that model? Or less of the people who would come onto the internet and complain? Less of the phone geeks ended up buying later G4s because of the bootloop reports?
Orcam said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers
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i use it like a high end phone should. im not a super big gamer got the ps4 for that i d.id a writeup a while back on coverting samsung gear vr for g4 and ive done my share of vring. i use a otg cable and or blueputdroid to connect ps3 control to it for vr.
like i said i got a sprint varient which is on older firmware rooted no twrp very few modified stock roms.
i like the phone enough i busted two screens the orig and a aftermarket. btw dont ever buy from fixez.com claim oe quality its just a sheet of reg glass broke 2 weeks after i bought it 6 months ago from a scratch no bull**** no drop i ended up putting the spidered glass back on it.
the way ive eased my mind is basicly i buy sell and trade phones all the time. i have a backup i keep put up just incase.
also like i said i did do a thermal paste mod that helps cool her down.
ive sold my g3 3 times and ended up buying it back cause the people loved it so much theyve all upgraded to g5.
when and if i could i would prob buy a g5 or g6 when it comes out against my better judgment of lgs part
the selling point of a g4 is the camera manual mode takes some of the best night shots ive ever seen. days shots are killer
TheMadScientist420 said:
i use it like a high end phone should. im not a super big gamer got the ps4 for that i d.id a writeup a while back on coverting samsung gear vr for g4 and ive done my share of vring. i use a otg cable and or blueputdroid to connect ps3 control to it for vr.
like i said i got a sprint varient which is on older firmware rooted no twrp very few modified stock roms.
i like the phone enough i busted two screens the orig and a aftermarket. btw dont ever buy from fixez.com claim oe quality its just a sheet of reg glass broke 2 weeks after i bought it 6 months ago from a scratch no bull**** no drop i ended up putting the spidered glass back on it.
the way ive eased my mind is basicly i buy sell and trade phones all the time. i have a backup i keep put up just incase.
also like i said i did do a thermal paste mod that helps cool her down.
ive sold my g3 3 times and ended up buying it back cause the people loved it so much theyve all upgraded to g5.
when and if i could i would prob buy a g5 or g6 when it comes out against my better judgment of lgs part
the selling point of a g4 is the camera manual mode takes some of the best night shots ive ever seen. days shots are killer
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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?
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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?
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Ive not had it bootloop. Ive had it since. Jan of 2016. So ive passed the usuall 6 month bootloop period. Like i said dont know the serial. Never got a straight answer mine starts with like a 031. Or somthing. Only 50 or 60 num i got is a 508 and its in the middle of my serial. Like i said. 10 of 2015 is man date and a hardware rev of 1.1
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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?
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i posted some pics in a post or 2 back
TheMadScientist420 said:
Ive not had it bootloop. Ive had it since. Jan of 2016. So ive passed the usuall 6 month bootloop period. Like i said dont know the serial. Never got a straight answer mine starts with like a 031. Or somthing. Only 50 or 60 num i got is a 508 and its in the middle of my serial. Like i said. 10 of 2015 is man date and a hardware rev of 1.1
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So the hardware revision seems to have fixed it? I thought I read somewhere that it didn't fix it? Did LG at least make it less common?
Do you also know if this was happening to people across the board? Or was it just a few people? It's a bit risky I must say. How do you find the serial number?
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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?
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i personly feal the thermal paste helped may not have.
but heat is the underlying issue of the ilapo bootloop the shear heat from the cores break a cold solder joint on 2 of the cores. i thermal pasted everything i could inside ill post a link to a write up i did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/general/disassemble4-g4-testin-harware-cooling-t3327640
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Orcam said:
So the hardware revision seems to have fixed it? I thought I read somewhere that it didn't fix it? Did LG at least make it less common?
Do you also know if this was happening to people across the board? Or was it just a few people? It's a bit risky I must say. How do you find the serial number?
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people say the serial num is on the box but like i said never actually found it. they said hardware rev 1.1 was suposedly good which is stamped on the side of the box not on a sticker but printed
its all across the board all carriers.
thats what i was sayin killer phone but there is risk in it i gave up a non rootable note 5 note 4 and a rooted s6 and seem to take the g4 over all due to the features of ir blaster fully funtional . camera and knock on features
TheMadScientist420 said:
i personly feal the thermal paste helped may not have.
but heat is the underlying issue of the ilapo bootloop the shear heat from the cores break a cold solder joint on 2 of the cores. i thermal pasted everything i could inside ill post a link to a write up i did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/general/disassemble4-g4-testin-harware-cooling-t3327640
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people say the serial num is on the box but like i said never actually found it. they said hardware rev 1.1 was suposedly good which is stamped on the side of the box not on a sticker but printed
its all across the board all carriers.
thats what i was sayin killer phone but there is risk in it i gave up a non rootable note 5 note 4 and a rooted s6 and seem to take the g4 over all due to the features of ir blaster fully funtional . camera and knock on features
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Thats really interesting. Have you heard of anyone else warding off the bootloops with thermal paste? It seems like quite a good thing to do. It would also be good on the G3. Thing is, if I get a G4 with a warranty. I wont be able to do that. Probably best to get a second hand one and do it.
Has anyone permanently fixed their phones by resolering the chip do you know?
Thanks for all the information mate
Orcam said:
Thats really interesting. Have you heard of anyone else warding off the bootloops with thermal paste? It seems like quite a good thing to do. It would also be good on the G3. Thing is, if I get a G4 with a warranty. I wont be able to do that. Probably best to get a second hand one and do it.
Has anyone permanently fixed their phones by resolering the chip do you know?
Thanks for all the information mate
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I dont know. I know people heat em with heat guns freeze em. Put paper in behind the chips to apply pressure. I thjnk im lone wolf on this therory
G3 is not a bad phone and G4 is not a big upgrade so I am not sure why would you want to upgrade. I'm sure there are better phones out there especially with 820 SoC released 808 is getting old. I bought my G4 1 year ago mainly because it was very cheap compared to similar models from other brands but now I don't see anything why would you buy it.
Orcam said:
Yeah I did read something about that core shutting down fix. So you have had yours for a year? I don't know how widespread the problem is, because most people won't go to the forums to praise a working phone. I really want to get one. But only if I can be reasonably comfortable that I am able to mod it or something to prevent a bootloop occuring. What is your use like? Do you game? I don't. It will be used lightly compared to most. I never install games.
Yeah I saw that too. I don't want to spend so much on a new phone. Who knows, could have an even worse hardware fault.
I'm not in the US so I would get a H815. So do you think the reason for less bootloops being reported is due to people not buying the device anymore? Less people have that model? Or less of the people who would come onto the internet and complain? Less of the phone geeks ended up buying later G4s because of the bootloop reports?
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that is a good question.. if less units are beign sold. but i just read that the newer 6XX have a different motherboard it isnt like the old ones. better quality. what i know is less people reported tha issue.
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G3 is not a bad phone and G4 is not a big upgrade so I am not sure why would you want to upgrade. I'm sure there are better phones out there especially with 820 SoC released 808 is getting old. I bought my G4 1 year ago mainly because it was very cheap compared to similar models from other brands but now I don't see anything why would you buy it.
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That's true. The only problem is, I am not in it for the specs really I am more into it for the looks/feel in the hand and possible continued support on XDA for the device. The G3 does still have it yes, but I would like to slowly work my way up. What would you be recommending? I was actually looking at downgrading to a Moto X 2013 edition because it feels just so damn good in the hand. The G5 and G6 look vomit worthy to me. I just hate the look of all the new flag ships coming out.
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that is a good question.. if less units are beign sold. but i just read that the newer 6XX have a different motherboard it isnt like the old ones. better quality. what i know is less people reported tha issue.
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Oh did you read that they actually changed the design? Where did you find that out? Do you have a G4?
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That's true. The only problem is, I am not in it for the specs really I am more into it for the looks/feel in the hand and possible continued support on XDA for the device. The G3 does still have it yes, but I would like to slowly work my way up. What would you be recommending? I was actually looking at downgrading to a Moto X 2013 edition because it feels just so damn good in the hand. The G5 and G6 look vomit worthy to me. I just hate the look of all the new flag ships coming out.
Oh did you read that they actually changed the design? Where did you find that out? Do you have a G4?
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yes i have h811 wich i flash like 2-3 times a week.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70259566&postcount=194
raptorddd said:
yes i have h811 wich i flash like 2-3 times a week.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70259566&postcount=194
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Aha. I see. So these forums are still quite active on XDA? There seem to be a few people still on the device.
Hey everyone!,
Im thinking of moving up to a G5 within the next month or 2 because the G3 has caused me way to many problems for me.
Let me list out what faults I have found with my G3
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- Wifi going off even when im near the router or probably a room or 2 away from it.
- Random bootloops
- Earphone jack problems <-- There are solutions out there but they haven't fixed it at all for me.
- Editing the Build.Prop on the headphones section but that didn't work either. (Back buttons stopped working lol)
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These problems that im having to deal with everyday especially with the earphone jack problem when i'm at the gym It will constantly skip tracks, pauses tracks and opens google voice search. I even went to a phone repair shop and they can't fix it and told me to tell the manufacture to get a replacement even though i don't have no warranty on this device.
It's kinda getting to a point where I just don't want nothing to do with the phone anymore. I even went onto another rom to fix the problem but that doesn't do nothing at all.
So. What do you guys think G5 or Another phone?
HunterTubeHD said:
Hey everyone!,
Im thinking of moving up to a G5 within the next month or 2 because the G3 has caused me way to many problems for me.
Let me list out what faults I have found with my G3
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- Wifi going off even when im near the router or probably a room or 2 away from it.
- Random bootloops
- Earphone jack problems <-- There are solutions out there but they haven't fixed it at all for me.
- Editing the Build.Prop on the headphones section but that didn't work either. (Back buttons stopped working lol)
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These problems that im having to deal with everyday especially with the earphone jack problem when i'm at the gym It will constantly skip tracks, pauses tracks and opens google voice search. I even went to a phone repair shop and they can't fix it and told me to tell the manufacture to get a replacement even though i don't have no warranty on this device.
It's kinda getting to a point where I just don't want nothing to do with the phone anymore. I even went onto another rom to fix the problem but that doesn't do nothing at all.
So. What do you guys think G5 or Another phone?
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I don't think its worth the upgrade. I was able to fix the earphone jack problems by going into the Google app and disabling things.
I get random bootlooop when I overuse the phone and its at low charge( when it overheats and is at 15% or less battery)
I have literally disabled everything that triggers the voice search but yet still it changes music and pauses music all the time. I'm not too sure yet. Thanks for the tip though
sounds like your g3 is dying
just replace it, or get a g4. you shouldn't have those types of issues you discuss. they seem hardware related.
I have both G3 and G5 and to be honest, it the G5 isn't a great phone imo. The g3 runs better for me and the G5 I have had issues with the camera (telephoto one). The fingerprint sensor 9/10 times doesn't register correctly. It isn't worth upgrading to imo. The G5 made me realize that LG isn't a brand I'll consider for phones in the future, unless their quality goes way up. Go with OnePlus 3T, or wait for OnePlus 4 to come (here soon). Quality phones on the cheap with good community developer support.
As per the headphone issues, you can buy the headphone jack piece online. It's super easy to replace and the part is cheap. I wouldn't give up on your G3, very easy to replace parts on this device.
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I have both G3 and G5 and to be honest, it the G5 isn't a great phone imo. The g3 runs better for me and the G5 I have had issues with the camera (telephoto one). The fingerprint sensor 9/10 times doesn't register correctly. It isn't worth upgrading to imo. The G5 made me realize that LG isn't a brand I'll consider for phones in the future, unless their quality goes way up. Go with OnePlus 3T, or wait for OnePlus 4 to come (here soon). Quality phones on the cheap with good community developer support.
As per the headphone issues, you can buy the headphone jack piece online. It's super easy to replace and the part is cheap. I wouldn't give up on your G3, very easy to replace parts on this device.
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Thats the only thing within the space of 7 months it has already started to break down on me. But I've bought the G4 now but what I'll do is try to repair the earphone jack and see what i could do with the wifi problem. The G4 is coming tomorrow (Wednesday) but if this phone goes the same way as the g3 I'll most likely not go with LG phones again, I mean don't get me wrong the phone and camera is just outstanding to me but there is too many problems especially with it's famous bootloop that hasn't been fixed by lg even they admitted its a hardware fault.
resinis said:
sounds like your g3 is dying
just replace it, or get a g4. you shouldn't have those types of issues you discuss. they seem hardware related.
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Yep! I managed to get a g4 now like i said before if this phone messes up on me (Touch wood it doesn't! aha) then I'll just go to another phone... and the earphone jack is easily replaceable so i may just get it repaired and see if i can get the wifi repaired there has to be a way to get it fixed.
I need to buy a used LG G3 D851 off eBay. I'm trying to determine if there is a way to find out the wear & usage on the G3. Looking at the physical condition of the phone isn't useful (cases & screen protectors protect against wear & tear). After buying (and returning) two broken G3s I've learned that "refurbished" means "we cleaned it with a towel", and that "new" means "a used phone in the original box".
As I understand it the only thing on any mobile phone that really wears is the camera which degrades over time. I thought that there was a hidden menu option that had an entry on how many photos were taken, which would help, but I can't find it.
I was hoping there would be a hidden menu timer or counter somewhere that can tell me how often the phone has been used?
Any hints or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! :good:
I have had close to a dozen LG G3s over the last 4 years. I have been trying to find a decent D855, but run into D850s , 851s, LS990s and VS985 for parts.
The biggest problem with these is the poor manufacturing of the components on the motherboard. The phones are dirt simple to take apart and swap parts on, and, by now, you should assume that the phone you are about to buy is not what you think it is.
Like George Washington's axe. Someone swapped the handle, then someone swapped the blade...
If you trust the seller to be honest, get a used one that has had little use and ask the seller if it bootloops, has wifi issues, bluescreen, fadeout...these are all motherboard problems.
Thanks @rs899 that's the problem I've had. In one case I bought what was supposed to be a D851 but it was a screen-locked LS999. Another one had WiFi that didn't work. In every case the phones were advertised as refurbished and "passed our extensive in-house diagnostics".
In every situation I had to file a complaint with eBay to get a refund as the seller was not cooperative.
At this point in the phone's life, it is unreasonable to spend much on these. I myself put a couple of phones together out of parts , used them a few days, and sold them as "used" on ebay fairly cheaply. If anyone complains in 30 days I will have them ship it back and refund them (or just simply refund them). The motherboards are a time bomb. The MBs in the ones I sold may not have been used much and may last for some period of time...or not.
I have a D-851 that I thought was pretty reliable. It has started to forget my wifi. The end may be near for that one.
@rs899 thanks for the info. BTW I have long fingers, and the back buttons on the LG G3 are perfect for me (I looked at the G4 but it is famously unreliable even when new & too big for my needs).
My daily driver is a rooted LG G3 running stock KitKat. I'd like to upgrade to a Marshmallow ROM but I'm nervous about losing functionality on the phone if the upgrade goes bad. So my plan is buy another LG G3 D851 and do the upgrade on that, then transfer my nandroid backup & microSD card to the new one. Maybe I'll give it one more shot on eBay & see if it works out. If you have a d851 for sale DM me your eBay ID & I'll check it out!
I don't have anything for sale right now. I have a D-850 I am playing with and figured out how to put Lineage 17.1 on, but now it drops wifi. I have that D851, but I don't trust it either. A very bad D855. Nothing I would either use or sell to my worst enemy...
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rs899 said:
I don't have anything for sale right now. I have a D-850 I am playing with and figured out how to put Lineage 17.1 on, but now it drops wifi. I have that D851, but I don't trust it either. A very bad D855. Nothing I would either use or sell to my worst enemy...
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You wrote that you replace parts on these G3 phones. Do you know if the ear speaker on the front of the phone loses clarity over time? I'm wondering if I should go through the trouble to replace mine. Thanks