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Guys, how do you think?
I have my G4 (S/N 512), camera is perfect, CPU is good, screen is excellent.
I don't care about updates, but I love Cyanogenmod, clean Android etc. I want to mod my phone, personalize it in every way I can. Unfortunelly I can't with locked bootloader. I could just unlock it, but I'm aware of bootloop. When it'll happen my phone will be just paper clip. So I'm thinking. The OP3 is near. OnePlus got great terms of guarantee. But still, I'm kinda in love with G4. I jumped from SGS3 to it. So it was my designed phone.
Anyway, what do you think? Will my phone brick? Move to OP3?
Stay until you get the bootloop (as you expect). It is kinda risk now to jump over to OP3. I know the rumoured specs are good but you wont loose by waiting a bit for some few reviews
lol op?Support epic joke.
Which serial number is your phone? I have a 510 device and i believe those are safe from the bootloop issue because those have the v1.1 motherboard. I unlocked the bootloader on mine because of this and it has been quite nice with CyanogenMod 13. However, like yourself i'm debating whether to upgrade the phone later this year. I don't 'hate' the G4, in fact it's a nice phone with a fantastic camera, screen and good performance. But there's something about it that i don't like, i bet this sounds stupid but it's just such a boring phone, honestly. Before this i had the OnePlus One and that felt like something genuinely special, and i kinda wish i'd stuck with that instead of buying the G4.
I doubt i'll go back to another OnePlus device because of their shocking customer service, if you end up with a bad device then it seems like you're gonna be ****ed for a few months. There was one person on Reddit who sent his phone back in February and still hasn't received it as of yesterday, like what the hell is that about. I'm going to wait and see what the new Nexus devices are like in about three months, i think that's the way forward for me because it would be nice to have a device which receives updates quicker than anything else, and always stays on top with the vast developmental community behind it. Only problem with those is the price and lack of a memory card slot, but we'll have to see what happens, maybe the prices will be a little more affordable this time to compete with the OP3 and similar devices.
What about Moto Z Force, if it's not only for US market? Depends on the price of course.
I just upgraded from my G3 to a factory refurb G4 and so far I really like it all except for the issue where you cannot wake up the phone by double tapping the screen like 99% of the time. There's supposed to be a way to upgrade the lg keyboard app unless you are, like myself, on Verizon in which case they so graciously removed all the useful settings menu items such as app upgrades, etc...
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Which serial number is your phone? I have a 510 device and i believe those are safe from the bootloop issue because those have the v1.1 motherboard. I unlocked the bootloader on mine because of this and it has been quite nice with CyanogenMod 13. However, like yourself i'm debating whether to upgrade the phone later this year. I don't 'hate' the G4, in fact it's a nice phone with a fantastic camera, screen and good performance. But there's something about it that i don't like, i bet this sounds stupid but it's just such a boring phone, honestly. Before this i had the OnePlus One and that felt like something genuinely special, and i kinda wish i'd stuck with that instead of buying the G4.
I doubt i'll go back to another OnePlus device because of their shocking customer service, if you end up with a bad device then it seems like you're gonna be ****ed for a few months. There was one person on Reddit who sent his phone back in February and still hasn't received it as of yesterday, like what the hell is that about. I'm going to wait and see what the new Nexus devices are like in about three months, i think that's the way forward for me because it would be nice to have a device which receives updates quicker than anything else, and always stays on top with the vast developmental community behind it. Only problem with those is the price and lack of a memory card slot, but we'll have to see what happens, maybe the prices will be a little more affordable this time to compete with the OP3 and similar devices.
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i have 601 how do i know what MB version i have?
If you want to hear my opinion for new phones:
Wait 1/2 to 1 year. Why?
• You know, if the phone will get its love by devs.
• It's also much cheaper.
• Many little hardware-bugs will probably be fixed.
3 good reasons to wait. New != better. Sad new world, I know. Except it's a Nexus: Same price until new one is released, same hardware - but devs will love it .
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i have 601 how do i know what MB version i have?
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There should be a sticker on the inside of the box which states the serial number and has the motherboard version at the end in closed brackets. But as your phone is 601, it will have the updated motherboard and so you're safe from the bootloop problems.
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There should be a sticker on the inside of the box which states the serial number and has the motherboard version at the end in closed brackets. But as your phone is 601, it will have the updated motherboard and so you're safe from the bootloop problems.
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thanks ill check it out.. but theres still people reporting bootloops even with 603. ??
i have it bootloader locked just in case. i own tmobile h811..
I think I am *very* close to going with the OnePlus 3. Just need a little more review/confirmation to make the jump.
Considering OP3 already has a CM13 build going and kernel sources out, I'd honestly get rid of the G4 while its still worth something. I would've done the same thing if it weren't for the fact my piece of garbage G4 decided to bootloop literally days before the OP3 release.
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I just upgraded from my G3 to a factory refurb G4 and so far I really like it all except for the issue where you cannot wake up the phone by double tapping the screen like 99% of the time. There's supposed to be a way to upgrade the lg keyboard app unless you are, like myself, on Verizon in which case they so graciously removed all the useful settings menu items such as app upgrades, etc...
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My double tap to wake used to work great. Then I got bootloop issue, had phone repaired from LG, and double tap to wake basically NEVER works. Not sure if it'd be worth a FDR or what.
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Considering OP3 already has a CM13 build going and kernel sources out, I'd honestly get rid of the G4 while its still worth something. I would've done the same thing if it weren't for the fact my piece of garbage G4 decided to bootloop literally days before the OP3 release.
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Mine bootlooped friday and I'm going to get the OP3 in the next few days. I'm trying to get my G4 repaired, if LG dont do it then I'll use my insurance to have it replaced. I plan on using the time I have without it to see how I lkthe OP3. If I like it, I'll sell the G4, if not, I'll sell the OP3.
I've read a lot of bad things about OP3's support, but in trying to get my G4 repaired, it can't be much worse than LG's (edit: since I made this comment, I've been on LG Chat on their website with a really helpful guy called Carl who's said my phone is covered with a 2 year warranty and they will fix it - much better than the cookie cutter email response team).
No removable battery on the OP3. They claim to charge their phone to 100% in 45 minutes. The G4 can be at 100% in about 3 minutes from shutoff to reboot with a fresh battery installed. I love my G4.
I loved my G4 till it stopped working and LG refuse to fix it because rooting voids the warranty.
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There should be a sticker on the inside of the box which states the serial number and has the motherboard version at the end in closed brackets. But as your phone is 601, it will have the updated motherboard and so you're safe from the bootloop problems.
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This statement is false and very dangerous for users. All smartphones, even with S/N starting with 60x are prone to bootloop problem. I have my LG G4 with v1.1 motherboard, S/N 602 and guess what happened to it...
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This statement is false and very dangerous for users. All smartphones, even with S/N starting with 60x are prone to bootloop problem. I have my LG G4 with v1.1 motherboard, S/N 602 and guess what happened to it...
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Well, that's news to me. When i bought my G4 in December the bootloop problem had already become widely known, and i did extensive research into it on XDA and other websites, but at the time all 510 and 511 devices were deemed to be completely safe. If those devices were affected by the bootloop problem then i wouldn't have even considered buying it.
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This statement is false and very dangerous for users. All smartphones, even with S/N starting with 60x are prone to bootloop problem. I have my LG G4 with v1.1 motherboard, S/N 602 and guess what happened to it...
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LOL, there are even cases of the new G5 bootlooping. LG has become such a joke. And it's a shame because the G4 would've been a perfect phone if they had caught the bootlooping and image retention issues while testing it.
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LOL, there are even cases of the new G5 bootlooping. LG has become such a joke. And it's a shame because the G4 would've been a perfect phone if they had caught the bootlooping and image retention issues while testing it.
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i don't see any report of lg g5 bootlooping .
I am considering this phone but was wondering how easy it is to root and are there some issues with it? I have been using AT&T galaxys for a while and am tired of their locked bootloader. Is Verizon the best choice or would Tmobile be better? thanks
Don't. Way too many boot loops, and the verizon version can not be unlocked nor rooted, at least on MM.
I wouldn't necessarily say don't buy it. I had a g3 on Verizon that I could fully unlock and do whatever to, and I still bought the g4.
I was a huge fan of the design of the g3, so I wanted something similar to it. The g4 is slightly bigger and taller which is something most people wouldn't like but I do like it.
I've never had any of the boot loop issues and its not difficult to root it. I'm currently running the rooted 13b image from the General section, rooted, and it works perfectly. Has been for a month now!
Still really up to your likes and wants, though.
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I wouldn't necessarily say don't buy it. I had a g3 on Verizon that I could fully unlock and do whatever to, and I still bought the g4.
I was a huge fan of the design of the g3, so I wanted something similar to it. The g4 is slightly bigger and taller which is something most people wouldn't like but I do like it.
I've never had any of the boot loop issues and its not difficult to root it. I'm currently running the rooted 13b image from the General section, rooted, and it works perfectly. Has been for a month now!
Still really up to your likes and wants, though.
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I can't really recommend the G4 to anybody anymore. First is the bootloop issue, it's real, mine just failed last week, and I always babied the phone. It's a severe manufacturing defect that affects the majority of phones produced in the first 4 months or so, and to a lesser degree later models as well. Check out the boot loop thread on reddit, it's huge. LG's response to the issue is the worst, since they are not recalling the phone or repairing it no questions asked. They will only repair it if you are within the first 12 months of warranty and have the receipt to proof it. That means if you buy a used one/refurbished one from eBay or so, you are out of luck, even if it's less than 12 months old. If you buy a non-US model, forget, LG will flat out refuse to repair it too. Finally, if your phone has the slightest ding or crack, LG will not repair it, even it has no relation to the boot loop.
Second the OP mentioned he wants to root without lots of troubles. You can only root Lolipop on the Verizon model, no root possible on MM and probably not on Nougat either (whenever that comes out for the G4).
So in theory the G4 is a nice phone when it works, but you are way too likely to run into serious trouble and rooting is severely restricted.
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I can't really recommend the G4 to anybody anymore. First is the bootloop issue, it's real, mine just failed last week, and I always babied the phone. It's a severe manufacturing defect that affects the majority of phones produced in the first 4 months or so, and to a lesser degree later models as well. Check out the boot loop thread on reddit, it's huge. LG's response to the issue is the worst, since they are not recalling the phone or repairing it no questions asked. They will only repair it if you are within the first 12 months of warranty and have the receipt to proof it. That means if you buy a used one/refurbished one from eBay or so, you are out of luck, even if it's less than 12 months old. If you buy a non-US model, forget, LG will flat out refuse to repair it too. Finally, if your phone has the slightest ding or crack, LG will not repair it, even it has no relation to the boot loop.
Second the OP mentioned he wants to root without lots of troubles. You can only root Lolipop on the Verizon model, no root possible on MM and probably not on Nougat either (whenever that comes out for the G4).
So in theory the G4 is a nice phone when it works, but you are way too likely to run into serious trouble and rooting is severely restricted.
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I got a bootlooped g4 on eBay and sent it to lg for repair no questions asked. I get it back Tuesday
Honestly for the money, just get a ONE+ 3
Thanks guys, as usual I didn't realize the extent of the boot looping problem until after I bought it. I have a 30 day guarantee so the first problem and back it goes. thanks for the help. It is clearly a great phone when it works. I have not been thrilled with my s5, my s4 worked better it was just that the battery life as abysmal. I will check out the ONE+3, thanks
Hi, just bought a second hand g4 with serial number starting 509 will the phone possibly bootloop? Also the phone is the Taiwan model and I currently live in the UK, will having the Taiwan model cause any problems? Thanks
It may Bootloop it may not. There is no definite answer. You may have problems with a non EU model in the EU. They may fix it or may not. You have to ask an LG service centre about this.
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It may Bootloop it may not. There is no definite answer. You may have problems with a non EU model in the EU. They may fix it or may not. You have to ask an LG service centre about this.
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Thanks but is the 509 model known to update?
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Thanks but is the 509 model known to update?
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If you ask if 509 is prone to Bootloop issue I think it is. Most bootloops happened on 505 though but the general consensus is the newer G4 you have the less chances for bootloop. Again there is no definite answer. We do not know the dirty details. We don't know which S/N is safe and if LG fixed the problem and from which S/N and after they did. We purely rely on public reports to draw conclusions. Up until now 6xx seems safe with only 1 or 2 ppl reported a bootloop on Reddit. Just make a backup and keep your data on the SD card. If you get a bootloop contact LG. They seem to be aware of the issue and fixing all broken phones even out of warranty some times.
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If you ask if 509 is prone to Bootloop issue I think it is. Most bootloops happened on 505 though but the general consensus is the newer G4 you have the less chances for bootloop. Again there is no definite answer. We do not know the dirty details. We don't know which S/N is safe and if LG fixed the problem and from which S/N and after they did. We purely rely on public reports to draw conclusions. Up until now 6xx seems safe with only 1 or 2 ppl reported a bootloop on Reddit. Just make a backup and keep your data on the SD card. If you get a bootloop contact LG. They seem to be aware of the issue and fixing all broken phones even out of warranty some times.
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Thanks so much for the response!!! So do you recommend I return the phone as there is a risk of boot loop and the phone is from Taiwan so they may not fix it?
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Thanks so much for the response!!! So do you recommend I return the phone as there is a risk of boot loop and the phone is from Taiwan so they may not fix it?
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yes theres a high chance it may bootloop.. and no UK wont repair your phone.. you must shipped to the country you got it from .. i say return. and get a phone with 6xx serial number.. there less reports with those serial numbers..
maybe @jinderation can chime in... hear hes story.
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Hi, just bought a second hand g4 with serial number starting 509 will the phone possibly bootloop? Also the phone is the Taiwan model and I currently live in the UK, will having the Taiwan model cause any problems? Thanks
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I had taiwan h815 yes it did bootloop eventually there are reported 509s in bootloop also if u bought it used u wont have warranty from uk only taiwan that is if u have the original receipt n the warranty card in the box n u must have a friend in taiwan too who can go to lg center n have it replaced n i tried email n phone they didnt help me ... If ur going to use it longer period like a year forget it lots of frustration
And phones with serial 508?
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And phones with serial 508?
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supposely up until 510 were fixed.. yet ive seen 510 to one 604.
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I had taiwan h815 yes it did bootloop eventually there are reported 509s in bootloop also if u bought it used u wont have warranty from uk only taiwan that is if u have the original receipt n the warranty card in the box n u must have a friend in taiwan too who can go to lg center n have it replaced n i tried email n phone they didnt help me ... If ur going to use it longer period like a year forget it lots of frustration
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I'm in the UK and have the same problem - a bootlooping TWN H815. It was purchased used last year, so no receipt or warranty card. I was wondering whether you had explored paying LG for an out-of-warranty repair? At this stage I'm looking at the best way of cutting my losses.
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I'm in the UK and have the same problem - a bootlooping TWN H815. It was purchased used last year, so no receipt or warranty card. I was wondering whether you had explored paying LG for an out-of-warranty repair? At this stage I'm looking at the best way of cutting my losses.
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In US cost of repairs alone is 200US$ cuz of morherboard replacement either that or which u can get a used g4 at the same price so even if ur bootloops there is no point of fixing it....all i can say for u is to wait for atleast an year after the bootloop so the prices fall down for repairs....there is no way u can send it to taiwan also there is no warranty n recepit thats only even if u have a friend there...
Avoiding heat
Hi all am in same boat. Got a EU H815 an 506 hw1.0 and until a week ago had never heard about bootloop issue. I've had unlocked bootloader, rooted with custom ROMs nearly whole ownership and as a result have never had any heat up issues. After reading 100s of pages of the issue my conclusion is that it seems to be heat that affects a soldered component which eventually fails. So based on this theory I'm using Kernel Adiutor to control the throttling when CPU temp gets >55degc. It is only an educated guess but does seem logical. Hope it helps others
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Hi all am in same boat. Got a EU H815 an 506 hw1.0 and until a week ago had never heard about bootloop issue. I've had unlocked bootloader, rooted with custom ROMs nearly whole ownership and as a result have never had any heat up issues. After reading 100s of pages of the issue my conclusion is that it seems to be heat that affects a soldered component which eventually fails. So based on this theory I'm using Kernel Adiutor to control the throttling when CPU temp gets >55degc. It is only an educated guess but does seem logical. Hope it helps others
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Ive been saying its a heat issue aince day 1 and no one would listen to me.
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Ive been saying its a heat issue aince day 1 and no one would listen to me.
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Definitely the cause. I did always notice with stock ROMs Genisys etc my phone got hotter than CM and logically it makes sense so I'm sticking with it :fingers-crossed:
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Definitely the cause. I did always notice with stock ROMs Genisys etc my phone got hotter than CM and logically it makes sense so I'm sticking with it :fingers-crossed:
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Seems like the issue calmed down over the winter in the northern hemisphere. And now that the summer is in full bloom people are looping like crazy. Im hoping between being almost as far north as one gets in usa. So like 85 far. Is blazing here. Plus me doing the thermal mod im keeping my device cool enough to make it as i have no waranty so a mb replacement costs me about 200 dollars american.
I have a s6 and a couple other mid range devices. I wont hesitate to toss my g4 in the trash. I got mine on a trade in from my g3 i only paid like 150 for my g4 so nope not me. Unless i get one cheap.
If this was an automobile this would be a recall i dont understand why these devices arent recalled.
I saw a news cast talking about how they make devices so cheap and breakable "for the economy" why would u buy the newest devices out if your old ones are running quite perfectly they say. So this is for economic reasoning. So go ahead lg keep making s****y devices i will buy a new one but not from you.
Yea i want a g5 but i wont give more that 100 bucks for it in the fear of failure.
Like i said keep it up lg seal your economic fate........
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Seems like the issue calmed down over the winter in the northern hemisphere. And now that the summer is in full bloom people are looping like crazy. Im hoping between being almost as far north as one gets in usa. So like 85 far. Is blazing here. Plus me doing the thermal mod im keeping my device cool enough to make it as i have no waranty so a mb replacement costs me about 200 dollars american.
I have a s6 and a couple other mid range devices. I wont hesitate to toss my g4 in the trash. I got mine on a trade in from my g3 i only paid like 150 for my g4 so nope not me. Unless i get one cheap.
If this was an automobile this would be a recall i dont understand why these devices arent recalled.
I saw a news cast talking about how they make devices so cheap and breakable "for the economy" why would u buy the newest devices out if your old ones are running quite perfectly they say. So this is for economic reasoning. So go ahead lg keep making s****y devices i will buy a new one but not from you.
Yea i want a g5 but i wont give more that 100 bucks for it in the fear of failure.
Like i said keep it up lg seal your economic fate........
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They are always better options than LG out there...the credibility rate for lg is always has been the worst thats why there used phones are sold dirt cheap everywhere
Hi, my G4 had bootloop recently, motherboard was changed under the warranty. New motherboard was made in 04/2018. Is it known if newer motherboards still have a bootloop issues?
I cannot found any relevant informations. Maybe because nobody already have this old phone
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Hi, my G4 had bootloop recently, motherboard was changed under the warranty. New motherboard was made in 04/2018. Is it known if newer motherboards still have a bootloop issues?
I cannot found any relevant informations. Maybe because nobody already have this old phone
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they are all bad as far as i know. And yes, nobody has this phone as its later revisions bootlooped after warranty and its more expensive to repair this piece of crap than what it is worth even after repairing.
I have my bootlooped G4 in a drawer since 1 year ago.
I have a phone that's never bootlooped
Hello guys i've been seeing a lot of boot loop news and lg starting to refund people because they don't have spare parts : http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/...offering-refunds-instead-of-replacements.aspx .
So should I be worried that my 5x will boot loop ? I've been using it for 2 months now on 7.0 september update .
just yesterday happened to mine!
Did you try to fix it or got it refunded under warranty ? Also rooted or stock with update ?
Hi, i guess that nobody could know that, but the problem seems to be the same as LG G4, LG V10, LG Flex 2 (all 2015 devices with almost the same motherboard that the Nexus 5x). You can search on the web "bootloop G4 reddit" "nexus 5x bootloop reddit" and you will find tons of reports, the majority of them (N5x) from last 3 months, and this holds the theory that is a welding issue on the CPU or sometimes on the EMMC chip (apparently LG did not weld very well that year...). The mentioned devices (included ours) seem to last from 9 to 14 months and finally the welding breaks. But now, we know it's strictly a HARDWARE issue NOT caused by 7.0 upgrade, irt's only a question of coincidence between the useful life of the weld and the launch of the 7.0 OTA.
So we all got very high possibilities that this occurs to our devices, eventually. I'm not sure that this is gonna happen to you, it really dependes of many many many factors (heavy usage, kernel profiles, temperature of your country/city/house/workplace, etc etc).
Maybe it never happens to you, but i know what you feel, is not very nice to feel that your phone could die in any moment. It was a low punch for me (i owned a G4 and it bootlooped twice) anyway i am going to sell my N5x due to this problem. Hope i help you with my point of view.
It is solder not weld.
Only Google/LG know how widespread the problem is on 5x.
My guess is it is far more than normally expected for phones but nowhere near as prevalent as posts on forums might make it seem.
So normally you might expect .01% of these types of solder problems. If the problem went up 100x to 1% and you sold 3m phones, that means 30,000 phones with the problem, whereas before you might only see 300.
30,000 people searching google and seeing other people posting about bootloop can start a panic.
If you actually had 10, 20, 30% of people with this problem you would have huge threads.
That's just my opinion.
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It is solder not weld.
Only Google/LG know how widespread the problem is on 5x.
My guess is it is far more than normally expected for phones but nowhere near as prevalent as posts on forums might make it seem.
So normally you might expect .01% of these types of solder problems. If the problem went up 100x to 1% and you sold 3m phones, that means 30,000 phones with the problem, whereas before you might only see 300.
30,000 people searching google and seeing other people posting about bootloop can start a panic.
If you actually had 10, 20, 30% of people with this problem you would have huge threads.
That's just my opinion.
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If you said "It is solder not weld." for me, thanks i didn't know the correct word, english is not my native language (I only learn reading on forums), so i see that you know (or it seems) about solder problems. Look i had two LG G4 both of them die, but not just mine even a cousin had the same issue whit his G4, so i really want to know if you think that the 5x soldering problem is a similar case of high-end 2015 LG Phones G4/V10/FLEX2 (of that magnitude)? or if it's just a "paranoia", i mean we know that the bootlooping issue on this device exists but you would recommend me (i really like this phone) to keep it?
This issue got me really worried due to my bad experiencie with the G4. I just bought the N5x 1 month ago. thank you.
same question how to know if my phone will bootloop...i have my nexus 5x 5 week ago but i bay it not new i bay it used...i upgrade to android nougat no issus right now..ho to know if i will have a probleme in the future iam afraid now
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i see that you know (or it seems) about solder problems. Look i had two LG G4 both of them die, but not just mine even a cousin had the same issue whit his G4, so i really want to know if you think that the 5x soldering problem is a similar case of high-end 2015 LG Phones G4/V10/FLEX2 (of that magnitude)? or if it's just a "paranoia", i mean we know that the bootlooping issue on this device exists but you would recommend me (i really like this phone) to keep it?
This issue got me really worried due to my bad experiencie with the G4. I just bought the N5x 1 month ago. thank you.
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I've been dealing with substandard solder since xbox RROD (red ring of death) where everyone was trying to get their xbox cpu reballed until microsoft admitted the problem.
As I mentioned, I'm sure the incident on 5x is much higher than normal phones, but that might still be a low % (even though it is a relatively high absolute # because of the # of phones that are sold)
I have no idea whether 5x is worse, better, or same as G4 problem. G4 seemed even higher, but could be because more phones were sold. Only LG knows for sure.
A lot of folks in US are finding that their credit card actually extends their warranty beyond manufacturers warranty and people will probably get their money back that way if all else fails.
Of course that doesn't help you if you are traveling and the phone dies. I end up using Google Fi as the service provider for this phone, so if that happened I could just shift all the calls and texts to another phone or tablet and keep going until I get a replacement phone, so I'm not super worried.
I regularly back up the stuff on my phone so the most I would lose is like 1 or 2 days of stuff, which I can deal with.
Personally I wouldn't be super worried this is going to happen to you, but be prepared with backups in case it does, but that is good practice for any phone, because it could always get stolen or drop and break.
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Hello guys i've been seeing a lot of boot loop news and lg starting to refund people because they don't have spare parts : http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/...offering-refunds-instead-of-replacements.aspx .
So should I be worried that my 5x will boot loop ? I've been using it for 2 months now on 7.0 september update .
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I got my 5X a month ago.... I figure it has a 1 yr warranty so I am not too worried yet.... Lets hope if it happens it does it in the next 11 months
please someone tell me how to know if my phone nexus 5x will have bootloop.i bay this phone not new but used .i bay it from a shop he tell me is from usa and me from morroco.i dont have any paper of warranty or something like this i just have the phone...if the bootloop issus touch my phone what can i do?i have the warranty or not???i dont have mony to buy a new phone please help me
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please someone tell me how to know if my phone nexus 5x will have bootloop.i bay this phone not new but used .i bay it from a shop he tell me is from usa and me from morroco.i dont have any paper of warranty or something like this i just have the phone...if the bootloop issus touch my phone what can i do?i have the warranty or not???i dont have mony to buy a new phone please help me
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Well from what I know if you don't have warranty paper then you can't get warranty by just showing the phone . Its not a 100% chance that it will boot loop I think , but if your not safe with it I suggest selling it working rather than looking for help when broken . Thats just my point of view .
moonlightdrive said:
Hi, i guess that nobody could know that, but the problem seems to be the same as LG G4, LG V10, LG Flex 2 (all 2015 devices with almost the same motherboard that the Nexus 5x). You can search on the web "bootloop G4 reddit" "nexus 5x bootloop reddit" and you will find tons of reports, the majority of them (N5x) from last 3 months, and this holds the theory that is a welding issue on the CPU or sometimes on the EMMC chip (apparently LG did not weld very well that year...). The mentioned devices (included ours) seem to last from 9 to 14 months and finally the welding breaks. But now, we know it's strictly a HARDWARE issue NOT caused by 7.0 upgrade, irt's only a question of coincidence between the useful life of the weld and the launch of the 7.0 OTA.
So we all got very high possibilities that this occurs to our devices, eventually. I'm not sure that this is gonna happen to you, it really dependes of many many many factors (heavy usage, kernel profiles, temperature of your country/city/house/workplace, etc etc).
Maybe it never happens to you, but i know what you feel, is not very nice to feel that your phone could die in any moment. It was a low punch for me (i owned a G4 and it bootlooped twice) anyway i am going to sell my N5x due to this problem. Hope i help you with my point of view.
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Well I think i have the same point of view to sell the phone working rather that having a paper holder . At least for me its the most logical thing to do maybe the chance isn't high for it to happen but I am not secure with a tought that my phone could die + im a heavy user so i migh make it to the boot loop faster .
Tarbruh said:
Well from what I know if you don't have warranty paper then you can't get warranty by just showing the phone . Its not a 100% chance that it will boot loop I think , but if your not safe with it I suggest selling it working rather than looking for help when broken . Thats just my point of view .
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oooh nooo is there an application or something to know if the motherboard is fine or something like this and the bootloop dont affected my device??
znayver said:
oooh nooo is there an application or something to know if the motherboard is fine or something like this and the bootloop dont affected my device??
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Well I don't know if there is or not but from what I know about the problem its random af , so I don't think there is unless only some motherboards are prone to the defect but I think it involves all , just happens randomly . Not 100% sure tho !
Tarbruh said:
Well I don't know if there is or not but from what I know about the problem its random af , so I don't think there is unless only some motherboards are prone to the defect but I think it involves all , just happens randomly . Not 100% sure tho !
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tnx for your reponse my friend
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tnx for your reponse my friend
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No worries , best of luck
Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers
Orcam said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers
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1. Buy a model which can be unlocked (like the h815 international)
2. Ensure that the serial starts with 603 or higher (604,605...) best is to ensure it was not refurbished (e.g. motherboard replaced)
3. Ensure you will have warranty for at least 1 year
4. Do a regular backup once you've received your device
I own 2 models with serial 60x since 1 year without any single problem and heavy usage.
I saw no single prove(!) that a non refurbished 60x serial device has got that infamous bootloop yet.
Guarantees.. you will get none. For absolute no device. That's why a valid warranty is important.
Jm5c
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steadfasterX said:
1. Buy a model which can be unlocked (like the h815 international)
2. Ensure that the serial starts with 603 or higher (604,605...) best is to ensure it was not refurbished (e.g. motherboard replaced)
3. Ensure you will have warranty for at least 1 year
4. Do a regular backup once you've received your device
I own 2 models with serial 60x since 1 year without any single problem and heavy usage.
I saw no single prove(!) that a non refurbished 60x serial device has got that infamous bootloop yet.
Guarantees.. you will get none. For absolute no device. That's why a valid warranty is important.
Jm5c
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I see. So there haven't been any boot loop reports with 60x model numbers? I thought I read somewhere that LG hadn't fixed the problem at all?
I am planning to get the international version. However I don't know about the warranty, it seems like a waste of time. If my G4 ended up bootlooping I don't really think LG can truly fix the problem under warranty anyway. Either I get a 60x G4 without a warranty and it doesn't bootloop, or I get one and it does bootloop and if I also had a warranty it would be useless since that would mean that LG hasn't actually fixed the problem at all, and is unable to. It probably also means that at this late point with the G4 being an older device, they wont be trying to fix the G4 bootloop issue either.
I just want some more people who have G4s with later model numbers to give me some faith in buying one.
I know that fixed phones by lg with warranty still having that problem. But i dont know anything about 60x series
Orcam said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers
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first i would either keep the g3 or find something else.
i havnt had a bootloop issue yet but locked bl and just the scare of knowing my device is unusable any day. puts me on edge
now i know some people arent as ocd or anal as I. but if u are any where near what i am you dont need the stress in your life. lol
its a great device i do have root just no twrp and it has lots of potential even like it is on stock rom.
im glad i got it but ive sold it 3 times now and have ended up with it back in decent shape so its most def a soldier
i dont and have never had a waranty i did a thermal paste cooling mod on mine and for all i know that paste is whats kept the solder joint from breaking.
never did actually figure out how to tel what serial num mine has but its not a refurb and it was manfacrd in 10 of 2015
some of the g4s have a flashable tot file to "fix the issue" by shutting down the damaged cores but essentially turning it into a mid ranged quad core phone which i have shut mine down and have tested iffrent lowered clock speeds and still ok. not blazing fast but works.
You could also just wait some days for the g6
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-plans-to-make-lg-g6-available-earlier-to-avoid-competition/
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA Labs
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I see. So there haven't been any boot loop reports with 60x model numbers? I thought I read somewhere that LG hadn't fixed the problem at all?
I am planning to get the international version. However I don't know about the warranty, it seems like a waste of time. If my G4 ended up bootlooping I don't really think LG can truly fix the problem under warranty anyway. Either I get a 60x G4 without a warranty and it doesn't bootloop, or I get one and it does bootloop and if I also had a warranty it would be useless since that would mean that LG hasn't actually fixed the problem at all, and is unable to. It probably also means that at this late point with the G4 being an older device, they wont be trying to fix the G4 bootloop issue either.
I just want some more people who have G4s with later model numbers to give me some faith in buying one.
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if you in USA get h811 and check the list of h815 that can be unlocked if you not in usa.
6xx have bootloops i have heard of 1-2 603's so the chances are very low compared to the first one.
i have been checking the thread here and only a few 6xx
TheMadScientist420 said:
first i would either keep the g3 or find something else.
i havnt had a bootloop issue yet but locked bl and just the scare of knowing my device is unusable any day. puts me on edge
now i know some people arent as ocd or anal as I. but if u are any where near what i am you dont need the stress in your life. lol
its a great device i do have root just no twrp and it has lots of potential even like it is on stock rom.
im glad i got it but ive sold it 3 times now and have ended up with it back in decent shape so its most def a soldier
i dont and have never had a waranty i did a thermal paste cooling mod on mine and for all i know that paste is whats kept the solder joint from breaking.
never did actually figure out how to tel what serial num mine has but its not a refurb and it was manfacrd in 10 of 2015
some of the g4s have a flashable tot file to "fix the issue" by shutting down the damaged cores but essentially turning it into a mid ranged quad core phone which i have shut mine down and have tested iffrent lowered clock speeds and still ok. not blazing fast but works.
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Yeah I did read something about that core shutting down fix. So you have had yours for a year? I don't know how widespread the problem is, because most people won't go to the forums to praise a working phone. I really want to get one. But only if I can be reasonably comfortable that I am able to mod it or something to prevent a bootloop occuring. What is your use like? Do you game? I don't. It will be used lightly compared to most. I never install games.
steadfasterX said:
You could also just wait some days for the g6
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-plans-to-make-lg-g6-available-earlier-to-avoid-competition/
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Yeah I saw that too. I don't want to spend so much on a new phone. Who knows, could have an even worse hardware fault.
raptorddd said:
if you in USA get h811 and check the list of h815 that can be unlocked if you not in usa.
6xx have bootloops i have heard of 1-2 603's so the chances are very low compared to the first one.
i have been checking the thread here and only a few 6xx
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I'm not in the US so I would get a H815. So do you think the reason for less bootloops being reported is due to people not buying the device anymore? Less people have that model? Or less of the people who would come onto the internet and complain? Less of the phone geeks ended up buying later G4s because of the bootloop reports?
Orcam said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers
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i use it like a high end phone should. im not a super big gamer got the ps4 for that i d.id a writeup a while back on coverting samsung gear vr for g4 and ive done my share of vring. i use a otg cable and or blueputdroid to connect ps3 control to it for vr.
like i said i got a sprint varient which is on older firmware rooted no twrp very few modified stock roms.
i like the phone enough i busted two screens the orig and a aftermarket. btw dont ever buy from fixez.com claim oe quality its just a sheet of reg glass broke 2 weeks after i bought it 6 months ago from a scratch no bull**** no drop i ended up putting the spidered glass back on it.
the way ive eased my mind is basicly i buy sell and trade phones all the time. i have a backup i keep put up just incase.
also like i said i did do a thermal paste mod that helps cool her down.
ive sold my g3 3 times and ended up buying it back cause the people loved it so much theyve all upgraded to g5.
when and if i could i would prob buy a g5 or g6 when it comes out against my better judgment of lgs part
the selling point of a g4 is the camera manual mode takes some of the best night shots ive ever seen. days shots are killer
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i use it like a high end phone should. im not a super big gamer got the ps4 for that i d.id a writeup a while back on coverting samsung gear vr for g4 and ive done my share of vring. i use a otg cable and or blueputdroid to connect ps3 control to it for vr.
like i said i got a sprint varient which is on older firmware rooted no twrp very few modified stock roms.
i like the phone enough i busted two screens the orig and a aftermarket. btw dont ever buy from fixez.com claim oe quality its just a sheet of reg glass broke 2 weeks after i bought it 6 months ago from a scratch no bull**** no drop i ended up putting the spidered glass back on it.
the way ive eased my mind is basicly i buy sell and trade phones all the time. i have a backup i keep put up just incase.
also like i said i did do a thermal paste mod that helps cool her down.
ive sold my g3 3 times and ended up buying it back cause the people loved it so much theyve all upgraded to g5.
when and if i could i would prob buy a g5 or g6 when it comes out against my better judgment of lgs part
the selling point of a g4 is the camera manual mode takes some of the best night shots ive ever seen. days shots are killer
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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?
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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?
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Ive not had it bootloop. Ive had it since. Jan of 2016. So ive passed the usuall 6 month bootloop period. Like i said dont know the serial. Never got a straight answer mine starts with like a 031. Or somthing. Only 50 or 60 num i got is a 508 and its in the middle of my serial. Like i said. 10 of 2015 is man date and a hardware rev of 1.1
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so everyone knows do live in vermont usa this is a medical state and i have a green card so i can grown a few plants not quite a s many as i have but i am alowed to grow for all u hecklers
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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?
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i posted some pics in a post or 2 back
TheMadScientist420 said:
Ive not had it bootloop. Ive had it since. Jan of 2016. So ive passed the usuall 6 month bootloop period. Like i said dont know the serial. Never got a straight answer mine starts with like a 031. Or somthing. Only 50 or 60 num i got is a 508 and its in the middle of my serial. Like i said. 10 of 2015 is man date and a hardware rev of 1.1
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So the hardware revision seems to have fixed it? I thought I read somewhere that it didn't fix it? Did LG at least make it less common?
Do you also know if this was happening to people across the board? Or was it just a few people? It's a bit risky I must say. How do you find the serial number?
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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?
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i personly feal the thermal paste helped may not have.
but heat is the underlying issue of the ilapo bootloop the shear heat from the cores break a cold solder joint on 2 of the cores. i thermal pasted everything i could inside ill post a link to a write up i did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/general/disassemble4-g4-testin-harware-cooling-t3327640
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So the hardware revision seems to have fixed it? I thought I read somewhere that it didn't fix it? Did LG at least make it less common?
Do you also know if this was happening to people across the board? Or was it just a few people? It's a bit risky I must say. How do you find the serial number?
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people say the serial num is on the box but like i said never actually found it. they said hardware rev 1.1 was suposedly good which is stamped on the side of the box not on a sticker but printed
its all across the board all carriers.
thats what i was sayin killer phone but there is risk in it i gave up a non rootable note 5 note 4 and a rooted s6 and seem to take the g4 over all due to the features of ir blaster fully funtional . camera and knock on features
TheMadScientist420 said:
i personly feal the thermal paste helped may not have.
but heat is the underlying issue of the ilapo bootloop the shear heat from the cores break a cold solder joint on 2 of the cores. i thermal pasted everything i could inside ill post a link to a write up i did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/general/disassemble4-g4-testin-harware-cooling-t3327640
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people say the serial num is on the box but like i said never actually found it. they said hardware rev 1.1 was suposedly good which is stamped on the side of the box not on a sticker but printed
its all across the board all carriers.
thats what i was sayin killer phone but there is risk in it i gave up a non rootable note 5 note 4 and a rooted s6 and seem to take the g4 over all due to the features of ir blaster fully funtional . camera and knock on features
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Thats really interesting. Have you heard of anyone else warding off the bootloops with thermal paste? It seems like quite a good thing to do. It would also be good on the G3. Thing is, if I get a G4 with a warranty. I wont be able to do that. Probably best to get a second hand one and do it.
Has anyone permanently fixed their phones by resolering the chip do you know?
Thanks for all the information mate
Orcam said:
Thats really interesting. Have you heard of anyone else warding off the bootloops with thermal paste? It seems like quite a good thing to do. It would also be good on the G3. Thing is, if I get a G4 with a warranty. I wont be able to do that. Probably best to get a second hand one and do it.
Has anyone permanently fixed their phones by resolering the chip do you know?
Thanks for all the information mate
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I dont know. I know people heat em with heat guns freeze em. Put paper in behind the chips to apply pressure. I thjnk im lone wolf on this therory
G3 is not a bad phone and G4 is not a big upgrade so I am not sure why would you want to upgrade. I'm sure there are better phones out there especially with 820 SoC released 808 is getting old. I bought my G4 1 year ago mainly because it was very cheap compared to similar models from other brands but now I don't see anything why would you buy it.
Orcam said:
Yeah I did read something about that core shutting down fix. So you have had yours for a year? I don't know how widespread the problem is, because most people won't go to the forums to praise a working phone. I really want to get one. But only if I can be reasonably comfortable that I am able to mod it or something to prevent a bootloop occuring. What is your use like? Do you game? I don't. It will be used lightly compared to most. I never install games.
Yeah I saw that too. I don't want to spend so much on a new phone. Who knows, could have an even worse hardware fault.
I'm not in the US so I would get a H815. So do you think the reason for less bootloops being reported is due to people not buying the device anymore? Less people have that model? Or less of the people who would come onto the internet and complain? Less of the phone geeks ended up buying later G4s because of the bootloop reports?
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that is a good question.. if less units are beign sold. but i just read that the newer 6XX have a different motherboard it isnt like the old ones. better quality. what i know is less people reported tha issue.
F-L-Y-E-R said:
G3 is not a bad phone and G4 is not a big upgrade so I am not sure why would you want to upgrade. I'm sure there are better phones out there especially with 820 SoC released 808 is getting old. I bought my G4 1 year ago mainly because it was very cheap compared to similar models from other brands but now I don't see anything why would you buy it.
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That's true. The only problem is, I am not in it for the specs really I am more into it for the looks/feel in the hand and possible continued support on XDA for the device. The G3 does still have it yes, but I would like to slowly work my way up. What would you be recommending? I was actually looking at downgrading to a Moto X 2013 edition because it feels just so damn good in the hand. The G5 and G6 look vomit worthy to me. I just hate the look of all the new flag ships coming out.
raptorddd said:
that is a good question.. if less units are beign sold. but i just read that the newer 6XX have a different motherboard it isnt like the old ones. better quality. what i know is less people reported tha issue.
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Oh did you read that they actually changed the design? Where did you find that out? Do you have a G4?
Orcam said:
That's true. The only problem is, I am not in it for the specs really I am more into it for the looks/feel in the hand and possible continued support on XDA for the device. The G3 does still have it yes, but I would like to slowly work my way up. What would you be recommending? I was actually looking at downgrading to a Moto X 2013 edition because it feels just so damn good in the hand. The G5 and G6 look vomit worthy to me. I just hate the look of all the new flag ships coming out.
Oh did you read that they actually changed the design? Where did you find that out? Do you have a G4?
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yes i have h811 wich i flash like 2-3 times a week.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70259566&postcount=194
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yes i have h811 wich i flash like 2-3 times a week.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70259566&postcount=194
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Aha. I see. So these forums are still quite active on XDA? There seem to be a few people still on the device.