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Once upon a time,about 8 months ago,there was the little newbie me,I that old E975(lgg) and decided he should get a new phone with all those "G4's" "S6's" etc,I wanted a phone with killer specs,and the best camera out there,so I decided to go with the g4,looked up prices online on his country. Pretty damn high,so i found that one shop that sold it for like 100$ less,no official warranty,unofficial warranty for 1 year,that seems fair,I bought it,the biggest mistake i ever made, the phone was so good,it worked like a charm,and god damn that camera was awesome,about 4 months ago i was sending a whatsapp when it just got stuck on that screen,m'kay i tried restarting,won't work,removed the battery and inserted an other one,boot to lg logo and then shut down,alright, i still got warranty. time to use it,went to the store,they said "we can't fix it",worst customer support EVER,ever since that I've been using that ****ty replacement phone,ewo,so today i was really bored and decided to look up the problem and noticed my s/n begins with "505" looked it up,apparently all the g4's with that s/n got stuck eventually,and the store knows that and since my warranty is unofficial I can't do ****,or can I? is there any way to get out of this with a functioning phone?help?

Temp Fix
Mine died yesterday. It's a hardware fault apparently and can't be fixed. You can, however, disable big cores and recover your data, but your phone will be really slow.
Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65919400&postcount=707

whattt
i was just about to cook the phone and teared it apart,i saw the whole oven thing and i thought to myself "Why the hell not" and well it should work...if it will stay the same i'll use your tutorial and probably use the really slow G4 instead of my current 2012 Huawei

stardamore said:
Mine died yesterday. It's a hardware fault apparently and can't be fixed. You can, however, disable big cores and recover your data, but your phone will be really slow.
Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65919400&postcount=707
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Phone doesn't work really slow, if you know what to do. My phone is working since I disabled the big cores what is about 2 weeks now, I'm even on a custom ROM. All you need to do is to root it and using 'Device Control Manager' (Kernel Adiutor doesn't work for me) change the frequency what will enable all 4 cores and with 4 there is no big difference in the performance really. I feel like it's more Qualcomms fail than LG's, cuz look G4 was first phone with Snapdragon 808 wasn't it? What if the first processors they made they sent to LG as they are all now in s/n's 505-509 and what if these are faulty? It actually would make sense, with 6 cores my phone didn't even turn on, with 4 it works as normal, it means there is 'something' wrong with the two faster cores..

It's LG's fault. They have admitted such. It's a faulty connection/motherboard.

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i've baked the phone,it works for now,how can i make sure that it'll keep working?

Replace the motherboard.

but they don't sell them on my country,and it'll cost like 400$ with shipping,and nobody replaces mobo's here,so is there any way to make this one keep working?

idan445 said:
sold it for like 100$ less,no official warranty,unofficial warranty for 1 year
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I'm sorry, but unfortunately you dug your own grave with that one. You may have saved yourself $100, but caused yourself major issues in the long run sacrificing that warranty.

Honestly, there is apparently no way to ensure it'll keep working. A lot of users have reported their phone dying again after LG has fixed it. A motherboard replacement is the second best option with the first being a phone other than the G4.

Thinking about the lg g4

I am considering this phone but was wondering how easy it is to root and are there some issues with it? I have been using AT&T galaxys for a while and am tired of their locked bootloader. Is Verizon the best choice or would Tmobile be better? thanks

Don't. Way too many boot loops, and the verizon version can not be unlocked nor rooted, at least on MM.

I wouldn't necessarily say don't buy it. I had a g3 on Verizon that I could fully unlock and do whatever to, and I still bought the g4.
I was a huge fan of the design of the g3, so I wanted something similar to it. The g4 is slightly bigger and taller which is something most people wouldn't like but I do like it.
I've never had any of the boot loop issues and its not difficult to root it. I'm currently running the rooted 13b image from the General section, rooted, and it works perfectly. Has been for a month now!
Still really up to your likes and wants, though.
Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk

droidian1441 said:
I wouldn't necessarily say don't buy it. I had a g3 on Verizon that I could fully unlock and do whatever to, and I still bought the g4.
I was a huge fan of the design of the g3, so I wanted something similar to it. The g4 is slightly bigger and taller which is something most people wouldn't like but I do like it.
I've never had any of the boot loop issues and its not difficult to root it. I'm currently running the rooted 13b image from the General section, rooted, and it works perfectly. Has been for a month now!
Still really up to your likes and wants, though.
Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk
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I can't really recommend the G4 to anybody anymore. First is the bootloop issue, it's real, mine just failed last week, and I always babied the phone. It's a severe manufacturing defect that affects the majority of phones produced in the first 4 months or so, and to a lesser degree later models as well. Check out the boot loop thread on reddit, it's huge. LG's response to the issue is the worst, since they are not recalling the phone or repairing it no questions asked. They will only repair it if you are within the first 12 months of warranty and have the receipt to proof it. That means if you buy a used one/refurbished one from eBay or so, you are out of luck, even if it's less than 12 months old. If you buy a non-US model, forget, LG will flat out refuse to repair it too. Finally, if your phone has the slightest ding or crack, LG will not repair it, even it has no relation to the boot loop.
Second the OP mentioned he wants to root without lots of troubles. You can only root Lolipop on the Verizon model, no root possible on MM and probably not on Nougat either (whenever that comes out for the G4).
So in theory the G4 is a nice phone when it works, but you are way too likely to run into serious trouble and rooting is severely restricted.

konradsa said:
I can't really recommend the G4 to anybody anymore. First is the bootloop issue, it's real, mine just failed last week, and I always babied the phone. It's a severe manufacturing defect that affects the majority of phones produced in the first 4 months or so, and to a lesser degree later models as well. Check out the boot loop thread on reddit, it's huge. LG's response to the issue is the worst, since they are not recalling the phone or repairing it no questions asked. They will only repair it if you are within the first 12 months of warranty and have the receipt to proof it. That means if you buy a used one/refurbished one from eBay or so, you are out of luck, even if it's less than 12 months old. If you buy a non-US model, forget, LG will flat out refuse to repair it too. Finally, if your phone has the slightest ding or crack, LG will not repair it, even it has no relation to the boot loop.
Second the OP mentioned he wants to root without lots of troubles. You can only root Lolipop on the Verizon model, no root possible on MM and probably not on Nougat either (whenever that comes out for the G4).
So in theory the G4 is a nice phone when it works, but you are way too likely to run into serious trouble and rooting is severely restricted.
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I got a bootlooped g4 on eBay and sent it to lg for repair no questions asked. I get it back Tuesday

Honestly for the money, just get a ONE+ 3

Thanks guys, as usual I didn't realize the extent of the boot looping problem until after I bought it. I have a 30 day guarantee so the first problem and back it goes. thanks for the help. It is clearly a great phone when it works. I have not been thrilled with my s5, my s4 worked better it was just that the battery life as abysmal. I will check out the ONE+3, thanks

Nexus 5x boot loop issues shoud i be worried that mine will do the same ?

Hello guys i've been seeing a lot of boot loop news and lg starting to refund people because they don't have spare parts : http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/...offering-refunds-instead-of-replacements.aspx .
So should I be worried that my 5x will boot loop ? I've been using it for 2 months now on 7.0 september update .

just yesterday happened to mine!

Did you try to fix it or got it refunded under warranty ? Also rooted or stock with update ?

Hi, i guess that nobody could know that, but the problem seems to be the same as LG G4, LG V10, LG Flex 2 (all 2015 devices with almost the same motherboard that the Nexus 5x). You can search on the web "bootloop G4 reddit" "nexus 5x bootloop reddit" and you will find tons of reports, the majority of them (N5x) from last 3 months, and this holds the theory that is a welding issue on the CPU or sometimes on the EMMC chip (apparently LG did not weld very well that year...). The mentioned devices (included ours) seem to last from 9 to 14 months and finally the welding breaks. But now, we know it's strictly a HARDWARE issue NOT caused by 7.0 upgrade, irt's only a question of coincidence between the useful life of the weld and the launch of the 7.0 OTA.
So we all got very high possibilities that this occurs to our devices, eventually. I'm not sure that this is gonna happen to you, it really dependes of many many many factors (heavy usage, kernel profiles, temperature of your country/city/house/workplace, etc etc).
Maybe it never happens to you, but i know what you feel, is not very nice to feel that your phone could die in any moment. It was a low punch for me (i owned a G4 and it bootlooped twice) anyway i am going to sell my N5x due to this problem. Hope i help you with my point of view.

It is solder not weld.
Only Google/LG know how widespread the problem is on 5x.
My guess is it is far more than normally expected for phones but nowhere near as prevalent as posts on forums might make it seem.
So normally you might expect .01% of these types of solder problems. If the problem went up 100x to 1% and you sold 3m phones, that means 30,000 phones with the problem, whereas before you might only see 300.
30,000 people searching google and seeing other people posting about bootloop can start a panic.
If you actually had 10, 20, 30% of people with this problem you would have huge threads.
That's just my opinion.

sfhub said:
It is solder not weld.
Only Google/LG know how widespread the problem is on 5x.
My guess is it is far more than normally expected for phones but nowhere near as prevalent as posts on forums might make it seem.
So normally you might expect .01% of these types of solder problems. If the problem went up 100x to 1% and you sold 3m phones, that means 30,000 phones with the problem, whereas before you might only see 300.
30,000 people searching google and seeing other people posting about bootloop can start a panic.
If you actually had 10, 20, 30% of people with this problem you would have huge threads.
That's just my opinion.
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If you said "It is solder not weld." for me, thanks i didn't know the correct word, english is not my native language (I only learn reading on forums), so i see that you know (or it seems) about solder problems. Look i had two LG G4 both of them die, but not just mine even a cousin had the same issue whit his G4, so i really want to know if you think that the 5x soldering problem is a similar case of high-end 2015 LG Phones G4/V10/FLEX2 (of that magnitude)? or if it's just a "paranoia", i mean we know that the bootlooping issue on this device exists but you would recommend me (i really like this phone) to keep it?
This issue got me really worried due to my bad experiencie with the G4. I just bought the N5x 1 month ago. thank you.

same question how to know if my phone will bootloop...i have my nexus 5x 5 week ago but i bay it not new i bay it used...i upgrade to android nougat no issus right now..ho to know if i will have a probleme in the future iam afraid now

moonlightdrive said:
i see that you know (or it seems) about solder problems. Look i had two LG G4 both of them die, but not just mine even a cousin had the same issue whit his G4, so i really want to know if you think that the 5x soldering problem is a similar case of high-end 2015 LG Phones G4/V10/FLEX2 (of that magnitude)? or if it's just a "paranoia", i mean we know that the bootlooping issue on this device exists but you would recommend me (i really like this phone) to keep it?
This issue got me really worried due to my bad experiencie with the G4. I just bought the N5x 1 month ago. thank you.
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I've been dealing with substandard solder since xbox RROD (red ring of death) where everyone was trying to get their xbox cpu reballed until microsoft admitted the problem.
As I mentioned, I'm sure the incident on 5x is much higher than normal phones, but that might still be a low % (even though it is a relatively high absolute # because of the # of phones that are sold)
I have no idea whether 5x is worse, better, or same as G4 problem. G4 seemed even higher, but could be because more phones were sold. Only LG knows for sure.
A lot of folks in US are finding that their credit card actually extends their warranty beyond manufacturers warranty and people will probably get their money back that way if all else fails.
Of course that doesn't help you if you are traveling and the phone dies. I end up using Google Fi as the service provider for this phone, so if that happened I could just shift all the calls and texts to another phone or tablet and keep going until I get a replacement phone, so I'm not super worried.
I regularly back up the stuff on my phone so the most I would lose is like 1 or 2 days of stuff, which I can deal with.
Personally I wouldn't be super worried this is going to happen to you, but be prepared with backups in case it does, but that is good practice for any phone, because it could always get stolen or drop and break.

Tarbruh said:
Hello guys i've been seeing a lot of boot loop news and lg starting to refund people because they don't have spare parts : http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/...offering-refunds-instead-of-replacements.aspx .
So should I be worried that my 5x will boot loop ? I've been using it for 2 months now on 7.0 september update .
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I got my 5X a month ago.... I figure it has a 1 yr warranty so I am not too worried yet.... Lets hope if it happens it does it in the next 11 months

please someone tell me how to know if my phone nexus 5x will have bootloop.i bay this phone not new but used .i bay it from a shop he tell me is from usa and me from morroco.i dont have any paper of warranty or something like this i just have the phone...if the bootloop issus touch my phone what can i do?i have the warranty or not???i dont have mony to buy a new phone please help me

znayver said:
please someone tell me how to know if my phone nexus 5x will have bootloop.i bay this phone not new but used .i bay it from a shop he tell me is from usa and me from morroco.i dont have any paper of warranty or something like this i just have the phone...if the bootloop issus touch my phone what can i do?i have the warranty or not???i dont have mony to buy a new phone please help me
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Well from what I know if you don't have warranty paper then you can't get warranty by just showing the phone . Its not a 100% chance that it will boot loop I think , but if your not safe with it I suggest selling it working rather than looking for help when broken . Thats just my point of view .

moonlightdrive said:
Hi, i guess that nobody could know that, but the problem seems to be the same as LG G4, LG V10, LG Flex 2 (all 2015 devices with almost the same motherboard that the Nexus 5x). You can search on the web "bootloop G4 reddit" "nexus 5x bootloop reddit" and you will find tons of reports, the majority of them (N5x) from last 3 months, and this holds the theory that is a welding issue on the CPU or sometimes on the EMMC chip (apparently LG did not weld very well that year...). The mentioned devices (included ours) seem to last from 9 to 14 months and finally the welding breaks. But now, we know it's strictly a HARDWARE issue NOT caused by 7.0 upgrade, irt's only a question of coincidence between the useful life of the weld and the launch of the 7.0 OTA.
So we all got very high possibilities that this occurs to our devices, eventually. I'm not sure that this is gonna happen to you, it really dependes of many many many factors (heavy usage, kernel profiles, temperature of your country/city/house/workplace, etc etc).
Maybe it never happens to you, but i know what you feel, is not very nice to feel that your phone could die in any moment. It was a low punch for me (i owned a G4 and it bootlooped twice) anyway i am going to sell my N5x due to this problem. Hope i help you with my point of view.
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Well I think i have the same point of view to sell the phone working rather that having a paper holder . At least for me its the most logical thing to do maybe the chance isn't high for it to happen but I am not secure with a tought that my phone could die + im a heavy user so i migh make it to the boot loop faster .

Tarbruh said:
Well from what I know if you don't have warranty paper then you can't get warranty by just showing the phone . Its not a 100% chance that it will boot loop I think , but if your not safe with it I suggest selling it working rather than looking for help when broken . Thats just my point of view .
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oooh nooo is there an application or something to know if the motherboard is fine or something like this and the bootloop dont affected my device??

znayver said:
oooh nooo is there an application or something to know if the motherboard is fine or something like this and the bootloop dont affected my device??
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Well I don't know if there is or not but from what I know about the problem its random af , so I don't think there is unless only some motherboards are prone to the defect but I think it involves all , just happens randomly . Not 100% sure tho !

Tarbruh said:
Well I don't know if there is or not but from what I know about the problem its random af , so I don't think there is unless only some motherboards are prone to the defect but I think it involves all , just happens randomly . Not 100% sure tho !
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tnx for your reponse my friend

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tnx for your reponse my friend
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No worries , best of luck

Thinking Of Buying A G4. Two Questions!

Hey all
As the title states I'm thinking of moving on up to a G4 from a Nexus 5 (5X specs are terribly underwhelming to me, haha) and I'm this close to giving in and buying a used H818P in pristine condition. Just a couple questions
1. How prevalent exactly IS the bootloop/stuck at bootlogo issue? Is there a way I can reliably avoid it (serial numbers? undervolting?) and is there an established fix that can take me back from the brink if it happens? Searching XDA and Google has me very nervous with the ambiguity
2. Are there stock AOSP images/flashable zips for H818P? I don't really go for fancy feature-heavy ROMS.
Help a guy out, haha. An expensive paperweight is the last thing I need! Thanks!

DON'T

sspyed said:
Hey all
As the title states I'm thinking of moving on up to a G4 from a Nexus 5 (5X specs are terribly underwhelming to me, haha) and I'm this close to giving in and buying a used H818P in pristine condition. Just a couple questions
1. How prevalent exactly IS the bootloop/stuck at bootlogo issue? Is there a way I can reliably avoid it (serial numbers? undervolting?) and is there an established fix that can take me back from the brink if it happens? Searching XDA and Google has me very nervous with the ambiguity
2. Are there stock AOSP images/flashable zips for H818P? I don't really go for fancy feature-heavy ROMS.
Help a guy out, haha. An expensive paperweight is the last thing I need! Thanks!
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right now i dont see manny bootloops like before but i say as long as you get a 6xx serial chances are very low. there hasnt been anymore massive reports of bootloops. so make sure you have a phone that in any way you can claim warranty.
only tmobile h811 and some european h815- you need to see wich ones can have bootloader unlocked rest is stock rom. maybe only root. in the case that you are in LP.

Ah this is something I didn't know, haha. No AOSP is obviously a deal breaker for me. Off to search for a 6xx serial H815 on eBay, or just stick w my trusty N5 until a good flagship comes round
Thanks fellows!

I wouldn't recommend it. My first H815 G4 (S/N 506) bootlooped, after that I got a replacement (bricked phone got stolen while on its way to repairs) with a 512 serial number.
Although anything higher than 510 was said to be "safe", just yesterday evening that replacement H815 G4 bootlooped, as well.
So from my personal experience there don't seem to be "safe serial numbers" and I'd definitely not buy a used phone (as that will probably have only a very short warranty or even none at all).

sspyed said:
Ah this is something I didn't know, haha. No AOSP is obviously a deal breaker for me. Off to search for a 6xx serial H815 on eBay, or just stick w my trusty N5 until a good flagship comes round
Thanks fellows!
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but make sure the h815 you getting can be bootloader unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/unlock-list-lg-g4-variants-unlocked-t3262621

Well for all I've been able to gather - and I was made to read up by my own SN508.. one dying on me - teh internets will make you thing all '15-manufactured (SN5xx) G4's will bootloop sooner or later, the reported expectancy being a year and a day ))) (No kidding here, mine died a year and 2 month, and I wasn't running much of core-heating stuff like games or bloody arsebook app)
The avalanche of reports seem to cut off around SN603, give or take, tho
a) there's a vague talk about refurbs with SN6xx being basically old bootloopers factory-baked
b) have to keep in mind that with the average life expectancy of "a year and a day" there are TWO possible reasons for lack of '16-year bootloop reports:
- LG fixed it
- It's the same ****, only it's time didn't come yet.
I can't help but admit it is an amazing phone while it works. Not to mention the only one of recent flagships (barring g5 of the same) with both replaceable battery and a SD card - a trend I so wanted to support with my buck.
With all the knowledge and experience I have now I'd say this: new one, SN610+, at a bargain price AND with warranty - a buy. Else - skip.

Wanting to Upgrade from a G3

Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers

Orcam said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers
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1. Buy a model which can be unlocked (like the h815 international)
2. Ensure that the serial starts with 603 or higher (604,605...) best is to ensure it was not refurbished (e.g. motherboard replaced)
3. Ensure you will have warranty for at least 1 year
4. Do a regular backup once you've received your device
I own 2 models with serial 60x since 1 year without any single problem and heavy usage.
I saw no single prove(!) that a non refurbished 60x serial device has got that infamous bootloop yet.
Guarantees.. you will get none. For absolute no device. That's why a valid warranty is important.
Jm5c
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steadfasterX said:
1. Buy a model which can be unlocked (like the h815 international)
2. Ensure that the serial starts with 603 or higher (604,605...) best is to ensure it was not refurbished (e.g. motherboard replaced)
3. Ensure you will have warranty for at least 1 year
4. Do a regular backup once you've received your device
I own 2 models with serial 60x since 1 year without any single problem and heavy usage.
I saw no single prove(!) that a non refurbished 60x serial device has got that infamous bootloop yet.
Guarantees.. you will get none. For absolute no device. That's why a valid warranty is important.
Jm5c
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I see. So there haven't been any boot loop reports with 60x model numbers? I thought I read somewhere that LG hadn't fixed the problem at all?
I am planning to get the international version. However I don't know about the warranty, it seems like a waste of time. If my G4 ended up bootlooping I don't really think LG can truly fix the problem under warranty anyway. Either I get a 60x G4 without a warranty and it doesn't bootloop, or I get one and it does bootloop and if I also had a warranty it would be useless since that would mean that LG hasn't actually fixed the problem at all, and is unable to. It probably also means that at this late point with the G4 being an older device, they wont be trying to fix the G4 bootloop issue either.
I just want some more people who have G4s with later model numbers to give me some faith in buying one.

I know that fixed phones by lg with warranty still having that problem. But i dont know anything about 60x series

Orcam said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers
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first i would either keep the g3 or find something else.
i havnt had a bootloop issue yet but locked bl and just the scare of knowing my device is unusable any day. puts me on edge
now i know some people arent as ocd or anal as I. but if u are any where near what i am you dont need the stress in your life. lol
its a great device i do have root just no twrp and it has lots of potential even like it is on stock rom.
im glad i got it but ive sold it 3 times now and have ended up with it back in decent shape so its most def a soldier
i dont and have never had a waranty i did a thermal paste cooling mod on mine and for all i know that paste is whats kept the solder joint from breaking.
never did actually figure out how to tel what serial num mine has but its not a refurb and it was manfacrd in 10 of 2015
some of the g4s have a flashable tot file to "fix the issue" by shutting down the damaged cores but essentially turning it into a mid ranged quad core phone which i have shut mine down and have tested iffrent lowered clock speeds and still ok. not blazing fast but works.

You could also just wait some days for the g6
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-plans-to-make-lg-g6-available-earlier-to-avoid-competition/
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA Labs

Orcam said:
I see. So there haven't been any boot loop reports with 60x model numbers? I thought I read somewhere that LG hadn't fixed the problem at all?
I am planning to get the international version. However I don't know about the warranty, it seems like a waste of time. If my G4 ended up bootlooping I don't really think LG can truly fix the problem under warranty anyway. Either I get a 60x G4 without a warranty and it doesn't bootloop, or I get one and it does bootloop and if I also had a warranty it would be useless since that would mean that LG hasn't actually fixed the problem at all, and is unable to. It probably also means that at this late point with the G4 being an older device, they wont be trying to fix the G4 bootloop issue either.
I just want some more people who have G4s with later model numbers to give me some faith in buying one.
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if you in USA get h811 and check the list of h815 that can be unlocked if you not in usa.
6xx have bootloops i have heard of 1-2 603's so the chances are very low compared to the first one.
i have been checking the thread here and only a few 6xx

TheMadScientist420 said:
first i would either keep the g3 or find something else.
i havnt had a bootloop issue yet but locked bl and just the scare of knowing my device is unusable any day. puts me on edge
now i know some people arent as ocd or anal as I. but if u are any where near what i am you dont need the stress in your life. lol
its a great device i do have root just no twrp and it has lots of potential even like it is on stock rom.
im glad i got it but ive sold it 3 times now and have ended up with it back in decent shape so its most def a soldier
i dont and have never had a waranty i did a thermal paste cooling mod on mine and for all i know that paste is whats kept the solder joint from breaking.
never did actually figure out how to tel what serial num mine has but its not a refurb and it was manfacrd in 10 of 2015
some of the g4s have a flashable tot file to "fix the issue" by shutting down the damaged cores but essentially turning it into a mid ranged quad core phone which i have shut mine down and have tested iffrent lowered clock speeds and still ok. not blazing fast but works.
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Yeah I did read something about that core shutting down fix. So you have had yours for a year? I don't know how widespread the problem is, because most people won't go to the forums to praise a working phone. I really want to get one. But only if I can be reasonably comfortable that I am able to mod it or something to prevent a bootloop occuring. What is your use like? Do you game? I don't. It will be used lightly compared to most. I never install games.
steadfasterX said:
You could also just wait some days for the g6
https://www.xda-developers.com/lg-plans-to-make-lg-g6-available-earlier-to-avoid-competition/
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Yeah I saw that too. I don't want to spend so much on a new phone. Who knows, could have an even worse hardware fault.
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if you in USA get h811 and check the list of h815 that can be unlocked if you not in usa.
6xx have bootloops i have heard of 1-2 603's so the chances are very low compared to the first one.
i have been checking the thread here and only a few 6xx
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I'm not in the US so I would get a H815. So do you think the reason for less bootloops being reported is due to people not buying the device anymore? Less people have that model? Or less of the people who would come onto the internet and complain? Less of the phone geeks ended up buying later G4s because of the bootloop reports?

Orcam said:
Hey guys,
I'm looking to upgrade from a G3, the only problem I am unsure of is the obvious bootloop problem. Is anyone still using G4's that have been working for a long time? I won't be gaming at all, the most intensive cpu task I will be doing is probably skype video calls. I really want a G4, but the bootloop problem seems like a real let down.
I was wondering if there are any G4 xda members who have followed the whole development of the bootloop problem on the forums, reddit, and everything else. I have looked at lots of stuff, but I don't really understand the progression of the issue as well as if I was watching it unfold. If someone has followed it, they probably have a better idea than I do, of the overall current situation on the bootloop issue.
I want to get a G4 because the newer phones like the G5 are starting to look pretty gross and they keep getting bigger and uglier. The G4 seems like the last good step at the moment from my trusty G3.
Cheers
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i use it like a high end phone should. im not a super big gamer got the ps4 for that i d.id a writeup a while back on coverting samsung gear vr for g4 and ive done my share of vring. i use a otg cable and or blueputdroid to connect ps3 control to it for vr.
like i said i got a sprint varient which is on older firmware rooted no twrp very few modified stock roms.
i like the phone enough i busted two screens the orig and a aftermarket. btw dont ever buy from fixez.com claim oe quality its just a sheet of reg glass broke 2 weeks after i bought it 6 months ago from a scratch no bull**** no drop i ended up putting the spidered glass back on it.
the way ive eased my mind is basicly i buy sell and trade phones all the time. i have a backup i keep put up just incase.
also like i said i did do a thermal paste mod that helps cool her down.
ive sold my g3 3 times and ended up buying it back cause the people loved it so much theyve all upgraded to g5.
when and if i could i would prob buy a g5 or g6 when it comes out against my better judgment of lgs part
the selling point of a g4 is the camera manual mode takes some of the best night shots ive ever seen. days shots are killer

TheMadScientist420 said:
i use it like a high end phone should. im not a super big gamer got the ps4 for that i d.id a writeup a while back on coverting samsung gear vr for g4 and ive done my share of vring. i use a otg cable and or blueputdroid to connect ps3 control to it for vr.
like i said i got a sprint varient which is on older firmware rooted no twrp very few modified stock roms.
i like the phone enough i busted two screens the orig and a aftermarket. btw dont ever buy from fixez.com claim oe quality its just a sheet of reg glass broke 2 weeks after i bought it 6 months ago from a scratch no bull**** no drop i ended up putting the spidered glass back on it.
the way ive eased my mind is basicly i buy sell and trade phones all the time. i have a backup i keep put up just incase.
also like i said i did do a thermal paste mod that helps cool her down.
ive sold my g3 3 times and ended up buying it back cause the people loved it so much theyve all upgraded to g5.
when and if i could i would prob buy a g5 or g6 when it comes out against my better judgment of lgs part
the selling point of a g4 is the camera manual mode takes some of the best night shots ive ever seen. days shots are killer
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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?

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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?
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Ive not had it bootloop. Ive had it since. Jan of 2016. So ive passed the usuall 6 month bootloop period. Like i said dont know the serial. Never got a straight answer mine starts with like a 031. Or somthing. Only 50 or 60 num i got is a 508 and its in the middle of my serial. Like i said. 10 of 2015 is man date and a hardware rev of 1.1
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so everyone knows do live in vermont usa this is a medical state and i have a green card so i can grown a few plants not quite a s many as i have but i am alowed to grow for all u hecklers
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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?
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i posted some pics in a post or 2 back

TheMadScientist420 said:
Ive not had it bootloop. Ive had it since. Jan of 2016. So ive passed the usuall 6 month bootloop period. Like i said dont know the serial. Never got a straight answer mine starts with like a 031. Or somthing. Only 50 or 60 num i got is a 508 and its in the middle of my serial. Like i said. 10 of 2015 is man date and a hardware rev of 1.1
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So the hardware revision seems to have fixed it? I thought I read somewhere that it didn't fix it? Did LG at least make it less common?
Do you also know if this was happening to people across the board? Or was it just a few people? It's a bit risky I must say. How do you find the serial number?

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and no bootloop for you? Would you say it is pretty safe if you do the thermal paste mod?
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i personly feal the thermal paste helped may not have.
but heat is the underlying issue of the ilapo bootloop the shear heat from the cores break a cold solder joint on 2 of the cores. i thermal pasted everything i could inside ill post a link to a write up i did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/general/disassemble4-g4-testin-harware-cooling-t3327640
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So the hardware revision seems to have fixed it? I thought I read somewhere that it didn't fix it? Did LG at least make it less common?
Do you also know if this was happening to people across the board? Or was it just a few people? It's a bit risky I must say. How do you find the serial number?
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people say the serial num is on the box but like i said never actually found it. they said hardware rev 1.1 was suposedly good which is stamped on the side of the box not on a sticker but printed
its all across the board all carriers.
thats what i was sayin killer phone but there is risk in it i gave up a non rootable note 5 note 4 and a rooted s6 and seem to take the g4 over all due to the features of ir blaster fully funtional . camera and knock on features

TheMadScientist420 said:
i personly feal the thermal paste helped may not have.
but heat is the underlying issue of the ilapo bootloop the shear heat from the cores break a cold solder joint on 2 of the cores. i thermal pasted everything i could inside ill post a link to a write up i did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/general/disassemble4-g4-testin-harware-cooling-t3327640
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people say the serial num is on the box but like i said never actually found it. they said hardware rev 1.1 was suposedly good which is stamped on the side of the box not on a sticker but printed
its all across the board all carriers.
thats what i was sayin killer phone but there is risk in it i gave up a non rootable note 5 note 4 and a rooted s6 and seem to take the g4 over all due to the features of ir blaster fully funtional . camera and knock on features
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Thats really interesting. Have you heard of anyone else warding off the bootloops with thermal paste? It seems like quite a good thing to do. It would also be good on the G3. Thing is, if I get a G4 with a warranty. I wont be able to do that. Probably best to get a second hand one and do it.
Has anyone permanently fixed their phones by resolering the chip do you know?
Thanks for all the information mate

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Thats really interesting. Have you heard of anyone else warding off the bootloops with thermal paste? It seems like quite a good thing to do. It would also be good on the G3. Thing is, if I get a G4 with a warranty. I wont be able to do that. Probably best to get a second hand one and do it.
Has anyone permanently fixed their phones by resolering the chip do you know?
Thanks for all the information mate
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I dont know. I know people heat em with heat guns freeze em. Put paper in behind the chips to apply pressure. I thjnk im lone wolf on this therory

G3 is not a bad phone and G4 is not a big upgrade so I am not sure why would you want to upgrade. I'm sure there are better phones out there especially with 820 SoC released 808 is getting old. I bought my G4 1 year ago mainly because it was very cheap compared to similar models from other brands but now I don't see anything why would you buy it.

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Yeah I did read something about that core shutting down fix. So you have had yours for a year? I don't know how widespread the problem is, because most people won't go to the forums to praise a working phone. I really want to get one. But only if I can be reasonably comfortable that I am able to mod it or something to prevent a bootloop occuring. What is your use like? Do you game? I don't. It will be used lightly compared to most. I never install games.
Yeah I saw that too. I don't want to spend so much on a new phone. Who knows, could have an even worse hardware fault.
I'm not in the US so I would get a H815. So do you think the reason for less bootloops being reported is due to people not buying the device anymore? Less people have that model? Or less of the people who would come onto the internet and complain? Less of the phone geeks ended up buying later G4s because of the bootloop reports?
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that is a good question.. if less units are beign sold. but i just read that the newer 6XX have a different motherboard it isnt like the old ones. better quality. what i know is less people reported tha issue.

F-L-Y-E-R said:
G3 is not a bad phone and G4 is not a big upgrade so I am not sure why would you want to upgrade. I'm sure there are better phones out there especially with 820 SoC released 808 is getting old. I bought my G4 1 year ago mainly because it was very cheap compared to similar models from other brands but now I don't see anything why would you buy it.
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That's true. The only problem is, I am not in it for the specs really I am more into it for the looks/feel in the hand and possible continued support on XDA for the device. The G3 does still have it yes, but I would like to slowly work my way up. What would you be recommending? I was actually looking at downgrading to a Moto X 2013 edition because it feels just so damn good in the hand. The G5 and G6 look vomit worthy to me. I just hate the look of all the new flag ships coming out.
raptorddd said:
that is a good question.. if less units are beign sold. but i just read that the newer 6XX have a different motherboard it isnt like the old ones. better quality. what i know is less people reported tha issue.
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Oh did you read that they actually changed the design? Where did you find that out? Do you have a G4?

Orcam said:
That's true. The only problem is, I am not in it for the specs really I am more into it for the looks/feel in the hand and possible continued support on XDA for the device. The G3 does still have it yes, but I would like to slowly work my way up. What would you be recommending? I was actually looking at downgrading to a Moto X 2013 edition because it feels just so damn good in the hand. The G5 and G6 look vomit worthy to me. I just hate the look of all the new flag ships coming out.
Oh did you read that they actually changed the design? Where did you find that out? Do you have a G4?
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yes i have h811 wich i flash like 2-3 times a week.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70259566&postcount=194

raptorddd said:
yes i have h811 wich i flash like 2-3 times a week.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70259566&postcount=194
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Aha. I see. So these forums are still quite active on XDA? There seem to be a few people still on the device.