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Stay on G4 or move to OnePlus 3?

Guys, how do you think?
I have my G4 (S/N 512), camera is perfect, CPU is good, screen is excellent.
I don't care about updates, but I love Cyanogenmod, clean Android etc. I want to mod my phone, personalize it in every way I can. Unfortunelly I can't with locked bootloader. I could just unlock it, but I'm aware of bootloop. When it'll happen my phone will be just paper clip. So I'm thinking. The OP3 is near. OnePlus got great terms of guarantee. But still, I'm kinda in love with G4. I jumped from SGS3 to it. So it was my designed phone.
Anyway, what do you think? Will my phone brick? Move to OP3?

Stay until you get the bootloop (as you expect). It is kinda risk now to jump over to OP3. I know the rumoured specs are good but you wont loose by waiting a bit for some few reviews

lol op?Support epic joke.

Which serial number is your phone? I have a 510 device and i believe those are safe from the bootloop issue because those have the v1.1 motherboard. I unlocked the bootloader on mine because of this and it has been quite nice with CyanogenMod 13. However, like yourself i'm debating whether to upgrade the phone later this year. I don't 'hate' the G4, in fact it's a nice phone with a fantastic camera, screen and good performance. But there's something about it that i don't like, i bet this sounds stupid but it's just such a boring phone, honestly. Before this i had the OnePlus One and that felt like something genuinely special, and i kinda wish i'd stuck with that instead of buying the G4.
I doubt i'll go back to another OnePlus device because of their shocking customer service, if you end up with a bad device then it seems like you're gonna be ****ed for a few months. There was one person on Reddit who sent his phone back in February and still hasn't received it as of yesterday, like what the hell is that about. I'm going to wait and see what the new Nexus devices are like in about three months, i think that's the way forward for me because it would be nice to have a device which receives updates quicker than anything else, and always stays on top with the vast developmental community behind it. Only problem with those is the price and lack of a memory card slot, but we'll have to see what happens, maybe the prices will be a little more affordable this time to compete with the OP3 and similar devices.

What about Moto Z Force, if it's not only for US market? Depends on the price of course.

I just upgraded from my G3 to a factory refurb G4 and so far I really like it all except for the issue where you cannot wake up the phone by double tapping the screen like 99% of the time. There's supposed to be a way to upgrade the lg keyboard app unless you are, like myself, on Verizon in which case they so graciously removed all the useful settings menu items such as app upgrades, etc...

P650SE said:
Which serial number is your phone? I have a 510 device and i believe those are safe from the bootloop issue because those have the v1.1 motherboard. I unlocked the bootloader on mine because of this and it has been quite nice with CyanogenMod 13. However, like yourself i'm debating whether to upgrade the phone later this year. I don't 'hate' the G4, in fact it's a nice phone with a fantastic camera, screen and good performance. But there's something about it that i don't like, i bet this sounds stupid but it's just such a boring phone, honestly. Before this i had the OnePlus One and that felt like something genuinely special, and i kinda wish i'd stuck with that instead of buying the G4.
I doubt i'll go back to another OnePlus device because of their shocking customer service, if you end up with a bad device then it seems like you're gonna be ****ed for a few months. There was one person on Reddit who sent his phone back in February and still hasn't received it as of yesterday, like what the hell is that about. I'm going to wait and see what the new Nexus devices are like in about three months, i think that's the way forward for me because it would be nice to have a device which receives updates quicker than anything else, and always stays on top with the vast developmental community behind it. Only problem with those is the price and lack of a memory card slot, but we'll have to see what happens, maybe the prices will be a little more affordable this time to compete with the OP3 and similar devices.
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i have 601 how do i know what MB version i have?

If you want to hear my opinion for new phones:
Wait 1/2 to 1 year. Why?
• You know, if the phone will get its love by devs.
• It's also much cheaper.
• Many little hardware-bugs will probably be fixed.
3 good reasons to wait. New != better. Sad new world, I know. Except it's a Nexus: Same price until new one is released, same hardware - but devs will love it .

raptorddd said:
i have 601 how do i know what MB version i have?
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There should be a sticker on the inside of the box which states the serial number and has the motherboard version at the end in closed brackets. But as your phone is 601, it will have the updated motherboard and so you're safe from the bootloop problems.

P650SE said:
There should be a sticker on the inside of the box which states the serial number and has the motherboard version at the end in closed brackets. But as your phone is 601, it will have the updated motherboard and so you're safe from the bootloop problems.
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thanks ill check it out.. but theres still people reporting bootloops even with 603. ??
i have it bootloader locked just in case. i own tmobile h811..

I think I am *very* close to going with the OnePlus 3. Just need a little more review/confirmation to make the jump.

Considering OP3 already has a CM13 build going and kernel sources out, I'd honestly get rid of the G4 while its still worth something. I would've done the same thing if it weren't for the fact my piece of garbage G4 decided to bootloop literally days before the OP3 release.

mfrey0118 said:
I just upgraded from my G3 to a factory refurb G4 and so far I really like it all except for the issue where you cannot wake up the phone by double tapping the screen like 99% of the time. There's supposed to be a way to upgrade the lg keyboard app unless you are, like myself, on Verizon in which case they so graciously removed all the useful settings menu items such as app upgrades, etc...
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My double tap to wake used to work great. Then I got bootloop issue, had phone repaired from LG, and double tap to wake basically NEVER works. Not sure if it'd be worth a FDR or what.

qyrus said:
Considering OP3 already has a CM13 build going and kernel sources out, I'd honestly get rid of the G4 while its still worth something. I would've done the same thing if it weren't for the fact my piece of garbage G4 decided to bootloop literally days before the OP3 release.
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Mine bootlooped friday and I'm going to get the OP3 in the next few days. I'm trying to get my G4 repaired, if LG dont do it then I'll use my insurance to have it replaced. I plan on using the time I have without it to see how I lkthe OP3. If I like it, I'll sell the G4, if not, I'll sell the OP3.
I've read a lot of bad things about OP3's support, but in trying to get my G4 repaired, it can't be much worse than LG's (edit: since I made this comment, I've been on LG Chat on their website with a really helpful guy called Carl who's said my phone is covered with a 2 year warranty and they will fix it - much better than the cookie cutter email response team).

No removable battery on the OP3. They claim to charge their phone to 100% in 45 minutes. The G4 can be at 100% in about 3 minutes from shutoff to reboot with a fresh battery installed. I love my G4.

I loved my G4 till it stopped working and LG refuse to fix it because rooting voids the warranty.

P650SE said:
There should be a sticker on the inside of the box which states the serial number and has the motherboard version at the end in closed brackets. But as your phone is 601, it will have the updated motherboard and so you're safe from the bootloop problems.
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This statement is false and very dangerous for users. All smartphones, even with S/N starting with 60x are prone to bootloop problem. I have my LG G4 with v1.1 motherboard, S/N 602 and guess what happened to it...

Eumiro said:
This statement is false and very dangerous for users. All smartphones, even with S/N starting with 60x are prone to bootloop problem. I have my LG G4 with v1.1 motherboard, S/N 602 and guess what happened to it...
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Well, that's news to me. When i bought my G4 in December the bootloop problem had already become widely known, and i did extensive research into it on XDA and other websites, but at the time all 510 and 511 devices were deemed to be completely safe. If those devices were affected by the bootloop problem then i wouldn't have even considered buying it.

Eumiro said:
This statement is false and very dangerous for users. All smartphones, even with S/N starting with 60x are prone to bootloop problem. I have my LG G4 with v1.1 motherboard, S/N 602 and guess what happened to it...
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LOL, there are even cases of the new G5 bootlooping. LG has become such a joke. And it's a shame because the G4 would've been a perfect phone if they had caught the bootlooping and image retention issues while testing it.

duluc said:
LOL, there are even cases of the new G5 bootlooping. LG has become such a joke. And it's a shame because the G4 would've been a perfect phone if they had caught the bootlooping and image retention issues while testing it.
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i don't see any report of lg g5 bootlooping .

How do i make the big core disable work for me before mine bricks too

I just want to be prepared if and when mine bootloops there gotta be a way to adapt it. if it dont already work for ls991 and other varients

Simple, you don't fix something that's not broken. Use your phone until it bootloops then RMA it.

Levent2101 said:
Simple, you don't fix something that's not broken. Use your phone until it bootloops then RMA it.
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I dont know.
your answer seems kinda rude. I dont know if thats how u meant it. But i have no waranty. Ive dismantled my phone and cpu pasted for one. Im rooted. And my screen has a crack. No rma for me. Plus i make backups but still i cant afford another phone. Id like to have a method to make sure im down for as little as possible. Seems like other people have a perma fix by core disable. Id like to too.
And please dont lecture me on thats what i get for dismantling my phone.
Thats what i do. Hell ill put a mother board in it Myself. But i still would like to see this happen. Again being better prepared than your solution.

I would also like to know how to disable the cores if such thing happens ....there is another way to save ur phone mad scientist if the phone ever bootloops go to recovery factory reset from there...some people have reported this is temporary fix for bootloop ... U can also avoid the bootloop by nt using heavy games or app not rooting running in stock n most important no over charging the phone use only stock geniune charger..hell even in my G4 i dont even have a facebook or viber app ...use
Ur G4 as a second phone
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA-Developers mobile app

jinderation said:
I would also like to know how to disable the cores if such thing happens ....there is another way to save ur phone mad scientist if the phone ever bootloops go to recovery factory reset from there...some people have reported this is temporary fix for bootloop ... U can also avoid the bootloop by nt using heavy games or app not rooting running in stock n most important no over charging the phone use only stock geniune charger..hell even in my G4 i dont even have a facebook or viber app ...use
Ur G4 as a second phone
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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I know the issue is a heat thing. I do some vr and ps1 emulators but only for 20 min maybe 30 max. Like i said i also have thermal paste on most of my chips inside wich works well in keeping my phone about 5 to 7 degrees cooler than most.
I nust know other varients have claimed once they get back up and running that they have to enable the 3 other small cores and thats it basicly fixxing there phones permantly just slower.
Thats what my goal is here too.
I dont know my serial number but i have a 1.1 hw revision number and i was manifactured in oct 23 2015. I havnt heard of many of these bl but better safe than sorry.
i paid to much to have a paper weight

Can i unpack my tot and wHt do i have to modify to make this for my g4

TheMadScientist420 said:
I know the issue is a heat thing. I do some vr and ps1 emulators but only for 20 min maybe 30 max. Like i said i also have thermal paste on most of my chips inside wich works well in keeping my phone about 5 to 7 degrees cooler than most.
I nust know other varients have claimed once they get back up and running that they have to enable the 3 other small cores and thats it basicly fixxing there phones permantly just slower.
Thats what my goal is here too.
I dont know my serial number but i have a 1.1 hw revision number and i was manifactured in oct 23 2015. I havnt heard of many of these bl but better safe than sorry.
i paid to much to have a paper weight
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Bootloop issue only occurs in models having production date before july for e.g mine h815 was produced in may 2015... So i think ur pretty much safe atleast % of it unlike me ...G4 is time ticking bomb u never know when its going to set off..lets hope some one gives a guide
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jinderation said:
Bootloop issue only occurs in models having production date before july for e.g mine h815 was produced in may 2015... So i think ur pretty much safe atleast % of it unlike me ...G4 is time ticking bomb u never know when its going to set off..lets hope some one gives a guide
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Suposedly sept 15 and before were the time bombs. But there unsubstantiatied claims of many models after doing it.
I just hate change im used to this phone and hate trying to get used to somethin new. Just dooms day preppin for ic and when the bomb does go off. I found one new mb for 991. 120 bucks the rest of them are close to 200 and im not paying it if i dont have to.
Any one know whT was modified in the core disable tots that maybe can be incorporated to others.

U can always buy cheap used cell phones like huwai honor 5x，moto G 2nd generation or asus idol ...they arent that high end performance but still gets the job done at end of the day...hey did u bought the G4 used or new .. Cuz if its used it may already be repaired u check the back where the screws at if it matches ur model number
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Ofcourse if it does get bootloop repair itself costs 200$ on average depending upon where u live
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jinderation said:
U can always buy cheap used cell phones like huwai honor 5x，moto G 2nd generation or asus idol ...they arent that high end performance but still gets the job done at end of the day...hey did u bought the G4 used or new .. Cuz if its used it may already be repaired u check the back where the screws at if it matches ur model number
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Ofcourse if it does get bootloop repair itself costs 200$ on average depending upon where u live
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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I already stated that i have no warranty. Either way like another post says lg should be held accountable for this device.
The whole g4 project is one big lemon.
Theyre not fixxing half the devices that are bootlooping finding ways out.
Sorry to answer your ? New but mines a oct 2015. And a hardware rev 1.1 suposedly im safe

TheMadScientist420 said:
I already stated that i have no warranty. Either way like another post says lg should be held accountable for this device.
The whole g4 project is one big lemon.
Theyre not fixxing half the devices that are bootlooping finding ways out.
Sorry to answer your ? New but mines a oct 2015. And a hardware rev 1.1 suposedly im safe
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i bought my G4 H815 Taiwanese version May 2015 production two months ago
i dont know whether its already repaired or refurbished phone but it has these shiny stickers inside over screws with korean written on it
so im guessing my phone is refurbished but is it repaired or not that is another story ...still no boot issue as of yet
S/N : 505 , rev 1.0

jinderation said:
i bought my G4 H815 Taiwanese version May 2015 production two months ago
i dont know whether its already repaired or refurbished phone but it has these shiny stickers inside over screws with korean written on it
so im guessing my phone is refurbished but is it repaired or not that is another story ...still no boot issue as of yet
S/N : 505 , rev 1.0
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Mine is new from sprint no stickers over the holes

TheMadScientist420 said:
Mine is new from sprint no stickers over the holes
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Am on the same roas as you... i see the KDZ to disable big core US cell phones are not there...so in order for us to use this file.. i read that we need to mod with hex editor .. like just the name of the variant... like h815 rename to what ever your variant is.. as if you dont do this LGUP will give you error.. to make it flash and make it think its a HXXX frimaware for your phone...
i heard from LG agent that phones have 15 months warranty from LG.

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Am on the same roas as you... i see the KDZ to disable big core US cell phones are not there...so in order for us to use this file.. i read that we need to mod with hex editor .. like just the name of the variant... like h815 rename to what ever your variant is.. as if you dont do this LGUP will give you error.. to make it flash and make it think its a HXXX frimaware for your phone...
i heard from LG agent that phones have 15 months warranty from LG.
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When the kids goto bed im gettin into it. There modified aboots for the internat varients. Im gonna use a tot unpacker and try to compare my aboot with a few of those hopefully i can make one work for me
I wanna check and see. I dont want to change the name just yet. Kinda lime taking a tmobile tot and changin the name to a sprint one and trying to flash it to mine.
But this is a start.
What varient do you have

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When the kids goto bed im gettin into it. There modified aboots for the internat varients. Im gonna use a tot unpacker and try to compare my aboot with a few of those hopefully i can make one work for me
I wanna check and see. I dont want to change the name just yet. Kinda lime taking a tmobile tot and changin the name to a sprint one and trying to flash it to mine.
But this is a start.
What varient do you have
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am on tmobile h811.
heres the thread about it.. read on.... why need to chage with hex editor why not inplement it onto our roms too.. . i think it should be something that can be done in other variants as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stuck-bootloop-t3268734/page72

I'd like a solution along these lines as well. Ideally, the big cores would be disabled during boot, but manually running a script at any point would re-enable them.
@ezzony seems to be working on something similar, maybe he can help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67511148&postcount=1065

dsip said:
I'd like a solution along these lines as well. Ideally, the big cores would be disabled during boot, but manually running a script at any point would re-enable them.
@ezzony seems to be working on something similar, maybe he can help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67511148&postcount=1065
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Actually I uploaded a solution today, find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67550617&postcount=1273

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Actually I uploaded a solution today, find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67550617&postcount=1273
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Thanks a lot! Does your solution allow changing the big core frequencies after boot?

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Thanks a lot! Does your solution allow changing the big core frequencies after boot?
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No. Your prolly thinking how far can one can ramp up the frequency where the device stays stable, right? I will reveal how that can be done later, but currently it can't be done with kernel auditor or script. Firstly I would like to see if my solution works on someone else's' device other than my own so when I get some feedback I'll discuss upping the frequency over on the other bootloop thread. In the meantime have a go with my solution yourself and see how you get on with it.

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I dont know.
your answer seems kinda rude. I dont know if thats how u meant it. But i have no waranty. Ive dismantled my phone and cpu pasted for one. Im rooted. And my screen has a crack. No rma for me. Plus i make backups but still i cant afford another phone. Id like to have a method to make sure im down for as little as possible. Seems like other people have a perma fix by core disable. Id like to too.
And please dont lecture me on thats what i get for dismantling my phone.
Thats what i do. Hell ill put a mother board in it Myself. But i still would like to see this happen. Again being better prepared than your solution.
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Really? You've replaced the processor in a smartphone? That's been an idea of mine for bypassing the lockdown on locked down smartphones for a few years (seems like you can order all sorts of "large-volume OEM-only" chips on Alibaba), but the posts on this forum about that kind of hardware modification are scarce, knowledge of low level details is always missing in some (or people just don't bother to answer my questions regarding that), and there is conflicting information in a few cases.

will my g4 bootloop?

Hi, just bought a second hand g4 with serial number starting 509 will the phone possibly bootloop? Also the phone is the Taiwan model and I currently live in the UK, will having the Taiwan model cause any problems? Thanks

It may Bootloop it may not. There is no definite answer. You may have problems with a non EU model in the EU. They may fix it or may not. You have to ask an LG service centre about this.

Riardon said:
It may Bootloop it may not. There is no definite answer. You may have problems with a non EU model in the EU. They may fix it or may not. You have to ask an LG service centre about this.
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Thanks but is the 509 model known to update?

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Thanks but is the 509 model known to update?
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If you ask if 509 is prone to Bootloop issue I think it is. Most bootloops happened on 505 though but the general consensus is the newer G4 you have the less chances for bootloop. Again there is no definite answer. We do not know the dirty details. We don't know which S/N is safe and if LG fixed the problem and from which S/N and after they did. We purely rely on public reports to draw conclusions. Up until now 6xx seems safe with only 1 or 2 ppl reported a bootloop on Reddit. Just make a backup and keep your data on the SD card. If you get a bootloop contact LG. They seem to be aware of the issue and fixing all broken phones even out of warranty some times.

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If you ask if 509 is prone to Bootloop issue I think it is. Most bootloops happened on 505 though but the general consensus is the newer G4 you have the less chances for bootloop. Again there is no definite answer. We do not know the dirty details. We don't know which S/N is safe and if LG fixed the problem and from which S/N and after they did. We purely rely on public reports to draw conclusions. Up until now 6xx seems safe with only 1 or 2 ppl reported a bootloop on Reddit. Just make a backup and keep your data on the SD card. If you get a bootloop contact LG. They seem to be aware of the issue and fixing all broken phones even out of warranty some times.
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Thanks so much for the response!!! So do you recommend I return the phone as there is a risk of boot loop and the phone is from Taiwan so they may not fix it?

rmantech said:
Thanks so much for the response!!! So do you recommend I return the phone as there is a risk of boot loop and the phone is from Taiwan so they may not fix it?
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yes theres a high chance it may bootloop.. and no UK wont repair your phone.. you must shipped to the country you got it from .. i say return. and get a phone with 6xx serial number.. there less reports with those serial numbers..
maybe @jinderation can chime in... hear hes story.

rmantech said:
Hi, just bought a second hand g4 with serial number starting 509 will the phone possibly bootloop? Also the phone is the Taiwan model and I currently live in the UK, will having the Taiwan model cause any problems? Thanks
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I had taiwan h815 yes it did bootloop eventually there are reported 509s in bootloop also if u bought it used u wont have warranty from uk only taiwan that is if u have the original receipt n the warranty card in the box n u must have a friend in taiwan too who can go to lg center n have it replaced n i tried email n phone they didnt help me ... If ur going to use it longer period like a year forget it lots of frustration

And phones with serial 508?

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And phones with serial 508?
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supposely up until 510 were fixed.. yet ive seen 510 to one 604.

jinderation said:
I had taiwan h815 yes it did bootloop eventually there are reported 509s in bootloop also if u bought it used u wont have warranty from uk only taiwan that is if u have the original receipt n the warranty card in the box n u must have a friend in taiwan too who can go to lg center n have it replaced n i tried email n phone they didnt help me ... If ur going to use it longer period like a year forget it lots of frustration
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I'm in the UK and have the same problem - a bootlooping TWN H815. It was purchased used last year, so no receipt or warranty card. I was wondering whether you had explored paying LG for an out-of-warranty repair? At this stage I'm looking at the best way of cutting my losses.

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I'm in the UK and have the same problem - a bootlooping TWN H815. It was purchased used last year, so no receipt or warranty card. I was wondering whether you had explored paying LG for an out-of-warranty repair? At this stage I'm looking at the best way of cutting my losses.
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In US cost of repairs alone is 200US$ cuz of morherboard replacement either that or which u can get a used g4 at the same price so even if ur bootloops there is no point of fixing it....all i can say for u is to wait for atleast an year after the bootloop so the prices fall down for repairs....there is no way u can send it to taiwan also there is no warranty n recepit thats only even if u have a friend there...

Avoiding heat
Hi all am in same boat. Got a EU H815 an 506 hw1.0 and until a week ago had never heard about bootloop issue. I've had unlocked bootloader, rooted with custom ROMs nearly whole ownership and as a result have never had any heat up issues. After reading 100s of pages of the issue my conclusion is that it seems to be heat that affects a soldered component which eventually fails. So based on this theory I'm using Kernel Adiutor to control the throttling when CPU temp gets >55degc. It is only an educated guess but does seem logical. Hope it helps others

Meakii said:
Hi all am in same boat. Got a EU H815 an 506 hw1.0 and until a week ago had never heard about bootloop issue. I've had unlocked bootloader, rooted with custom ROMs nearly whole ownership and as a result have never had any heat up issues. After reading 100s of pages of the issue my conclusion is that it seems to be heat that affects a soldered component which eventually fails. So based on this theory I'm using Kernel Adiutor to control the throttling when CPU temp gets >55degc. It is only an educated guess but does seem logical. Hope it helps others
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Ive been saying its a heat issue aince day 1 and no one would listen to me.

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Ive been saying its a heat issue aince day 1 and no one would listen to me.
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Definitely the cause. I did always notice with stock ROMs Genisys etc my phone got hotter than CM and logically it makes sense so I'm sticking with it :fingers-crossed:

Meakii said:
Definitely the cause. I did always notice with stock ROMs Genisys etc my phone got hotter than CM and logically it makes sense so I'm sticking with it :fingers-crossed:
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Seems like the issue calmed down over the winter in the northern hemisphere. And now that the summer is in full bloom people are looping like crazy. Im hoping between being almost as far north as one gets in usa. So like 85 far. Is blazing here. Plus me doing the thermal mod im keeping my device cool enough to make it as i have no waranty so a mb replacement costs me about 200 dollars american.
I have a s6 and a couple other mid range devices. I wont hesitate to toss my g4 in the trash. I got mine on a trade in from my g3 i only paid like 150 for my g4 so nope not me. Unless i get one cheap.
If this was an automobile this would be a recall i dont understand why these devices arent recalled.
I saw a news cast talking about how they make devices so cheap and breakable "for the economy" why would u buy the newest devices out if your old ones are running quite perfectly they say. So this is for economic reasoning. So go ahead lg keep making s****y devices i will buy a new one but not from you.
Yea i want a g5 but i wont give more that 100 bucks for it in the fear of failure.
Like i said keep it up lg seal your economic fate........

TheMadScientist420 said:
Seems like the issue calmed down over the winter in the northern hemisphere. And now that the summer is in full bloom people are looping like crazy. Im hoping between being almost as far north as one gets in usa. So like 85 far. Is blazing here. Plus me doing the thermal mod im keeping my device cool enough to make it as i have no waranty so a mb replacement costs me about 200 dollars american.
I have a s6 and a couple other mid range devices. I wont hesitate to toss my g4 in the trash. I got mine on a trade in from my g3 i only paid like 150 for my g4 so nope not me. Unless i get one cheap.
If this was an automobile this would be a recall i dont understand why these devices arent recalled.
I saw a news cast talking about how they make devices so cheap and breakable "for the economy" why would u buy the newest devices out if your old ones are running quite perfectly they say. So this is for economic reasoning. So go ahead lg keep making s****y devices i will buy a new one but not from you.
Yea i want a g5 but i wont give more that 100 bucks for it in the fear of failure.
Like i said keep it up lg seal your economic fate........
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They are always better options than LG out there...the credibility rate for lg is always has been the worst thats why there used phones are sold dirt cheap everywhere

Hi, my G4 had bootloop recently, motherboard was changed under the warranty. New motherboard was made in 04/2018. Is it known if newer motherboards still have a bootloop issues?
I cannot found any relevant informations. Maybe because nobody already have this old phone

Standa said:
Hi, my G4 had bootloop recently, motherboard was changed under the warranty. New motherboard was made in 04/2018. Is it known if newer motherboards still have a bootloop issues?
I cannot found any relevant informations. Maybe because nobody already have this old phone
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they are all bad as far as i know. And yes, nobody has this phone as its later revisions bootlooped after warranty and its more expensive to repair this piece of crap than what it is worth even after repairing.
I have my bootlooped G4 in a drawer since 1 year ago.

I have a phone that's never bootlooped

Nexus 5x boot loop issues shoud i be worried that mine will do the same ?

Hello guys i've been seeing a lot of boot loop news and lg starting to refund people because they don't have spare parts : http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/...offering-refunds-instead-of-replacements.aspx .
So should I be worried that my 5x will boot loop ? I've been using it for 2 months now on 7.0 september update .

just yesterday happened to mine!

Did you try to fix it or got it refunded under warranty ? Also rooted or stock with update ?

Hi, i guess that nobody could know that, but the problem seems to be the same as LG G4, LG V10, LG Flex 2 (all 2015 devices with almost the same motherboard that the Nexus 5x). You can search on the web "bootloop G4 reddit" "nexus 5x bootloop reddit" and you will find tons of reports, the majority of them (N5x) from last 3 months, and this holds the theory that is a welding issue on the CPU or sometimes on the EMMC chip (apparently LG did not weld very well that year...). The mentioned devices (included ours) seem to last from 9 to 14 months and finally the welding breaks. But now, we know it's strictly a HARDWARE issue NOT caused by 7.0 upgrade, irt's only a question of coincidence between the useful life of the weld and the launch of the 7.0 OTA.
So we all got very high possibilities that this occurs to our devices, eventually. I'm not sure that this is gonna happen to you, it really dependes of many many many factors (heavy usage, kernel profiles, temperature of your country/city/house/workplace, etc etc).
Maybe it never happens to you, but i know what you feel, is not very nice to feel that your phone could die in any moment. It was a low punch for me (i owned a G4 and it bootlooped twice) anyway i am going to sell my N5x due to this problem. Hope i help you with my point of view.

It is solder not weld.
Only Google/LG know how widespread the problem is on 5x.
My guess is it is far more than normally expected for phones but nowhere near as prevalent as posts on forums might make it seem.
So normally you might expect .01% of these types of solder problems. If the problem went up 100x to 1% and you sold 3m phones, that means 30,000 phones with the problem, whereas before you might only see 300.
30,000 people searching google and seeing other people posting about bootloop can start a panic.
If you actually had 10, 20, 30% of people with this problem you would have huge threads.
That's just my opinion.

sfhub said:
It is solder not weld.
Only Google/LG know how widespread the problem is on 5x.
My guess is it is far more than normally expected for phones but nowhere near as prevalent as posts on forums might make it seem.
So normally you might expect .01% of these types of solder problems. If the problem went up 100x to 1% and you sold 3m phones, that means 30,000 phones with the problem, whereas before you might only see 300.
30,000 people searching google and seeing other people posting about bootloop can start a panic.
If you actually had 10, 20, 30% of people with this problem you would have huge threads.
That's just my opinion.
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If you said "It is solder not weld." for me, thanks i didn't know the correct word, english is not my native language (I only learn reading on forums), so i see that you know (or it seems) about solder problems. Look i had two LG G4 both of them die, but not just mine even a cousin had the same issue whit his G4, so i really want to know if you think that the 5x soldering problem is a similar case of high-end 2015 LG Phones G4/V10/FLEX2 (of that magnitude)? or if it's just a "paranoia", i mean we know that the bootlooping issue on this device exists but you would recommend me (i really like this phone) to keep it?
This issue got me really worried due to my bad experiencie with the G4. I just bought the N5x 1 month ago. thank you.

same question how to know if my phone will bootloop...i have my nexus 5x 5 week ago but i bay it not new i bay it used...i upgrade to android nougat no issus right now..ho to know if i will have a probleme in the future iam afraid now

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i see that you know (or it seems) about solder problems. Look i had two LG G4 both of them die, but not just mine even a cousin had the same issue whit his G4, so i really want to know if you think that the 5x soldering problem is a similar case of high-end 2015 LG Phones G4/V10/FLEX2 (of that magnitude)? or if it's just a "paranoia", i mean we know that the bootlooping issue on this device exists but you would recommend me (i really like this phone) to keep it?
This issue got me really worried due to my bad experiencie with the G4. I just bought the N5x 1 month ago. thank you.
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I've been dealing with substandard solder since xbox RROD (red ring of death) where everyone was trying to get their xbox cpu reballed until microsoft admitted the problem.
As I mentioned, I'm sure the incident on 5x is much higher than normal phones, but that might still be a low % (even though it is a relatively high absolute # because of the # of phones that are sold)
I have no idea whether 5x is worse, better, or same as G4 problem. G4 seemed even higher, but could be because more phones were sold. Only LG knows for sure.
A lot of folks in US are finding that their credit card actually extends their warranty beyond manufacturers warranty and people will probably get their money back that way if all else fails.
Of course that doesn't help you if you are traveling and the phone dies. I end up using Google Fi as the service provider for this phone, so if that happened I could just shift all the calls and texts to another phone or tablet and keep going until I get a replacement phone, so I'm not super worried.
I regularly back up the stuff on my phone so the most I would lose is like 1 or 2 days of stuff, which I can deal with.
Personally I wouldn't be super worried this is going to happen to you, but be prepared with backups in case it does, but that is good practice for any phone, because it could always get stolen or drop and break.

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Hello guys i've been seeing a lot of boot loop news and lg starting to refund people because they don't have spare parts : http://www.mobilechoiceuk.com/News/...offering-refunds-instead-of-replacements.aspx .
So should I be worried that my 5x will boot loop ? I've been using it for 2 months now on 7.0 september update .
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I got my 5X a month ago.... I figure it has a 1 yr warranty so I am not too worried yet.... Lets hope if it happens it does it in the next 11 months

please someone tell me how to know if my phone nexus 5x will have bootloop.i bay this phone not new but used .i bay it from a shop he tell me is from usa and me from morroco.i dont have any paper of warranty or something like this i just have the phone...if the bootloop issus touch my phone what can i do?i have the warranty or not???i dont have mony to buy a new phone please help me

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please someone tell me how to know if my phone nexus 5x will have bootloop.i bay this phone not new but used .i bay it from a shop he tell me is from usa and me from morroco.i dont have any paper of warranty or something like this i just have the phone...if the bootloop issus touch my phone what can i do?i have the warranty or not???i dont have mony to buy a new phone please help me
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Well from what I know if you don't have warranty paper then you can't get warranty by just showing the phone . Its not a 100% chance that it will boot loop I think , but if your not safe with it I suggest selling it working rather than looking for help when broken . Thats just my point of view .

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Hi, i guess that nobody could know that, but the problem seems to be the same as LG G4, LG V10, LG Flex 2 (all 2015 devices with almost the same motherboard that the Nexus 5x). You can search on the web "bootloop G4 reddit" "nexus 5x bootloop reddit" and you will find tons of reports, the majority of them (N5x) from last 3 months, and this holds the theory that is a welding issue on the CPU or sometimes on the EMMC chip (apparently LG did not weld very well that year...). The mentioned devices (included ours) seem to last from 9 to 14 months and finally the welding breaks. But now, we know it's strictly a HARDWARE issue NOT caused by 7.0 upgrade, irt's only a question of coincidence between the useful life of the weld and the launch of the 7.0 OTA.
So we all got very high possibilities that this occurs to our devices, eventually. I'm not sure that this is gonna happen to you, it really dependes of many many many factors (heavy usage, kernel profiles, temperature of your country/city/house/workplace, etc etc).
Maybe it never happens to you, but i know what you feel, is not very nice to feel that your phone could die in any moment. It was a low punch for me (i owned a G4 and it bootlooped twice) anyway i am going to sell my N5x due to this problem. Hope i help you with my point of view.
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Well I think i have the same point of view to sell the phone working rather that having a paper holder . At least for me its the most logical thing to do maybe the chance isn't high for it to happen but I am not secure with a tought that my phone could die + im a heavy user so i migh make it to the boot loop faster .

Tarbruh said:
Well from what I know if you don't have warranty paper then you can't get warranty by just showing the phone . Its not a 100% chance that it will boot loop I think , but if your not safe with it I suggest selling it working rather than looking for help when broken . Thats just my point of view .
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oooh nooo is there an application or something to know if the motherboard is fine or something like this and the bootloop dont affected my device??

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oooh nooo is there an application or something to know if the motherboard is fine or something like this and the bootloop dont affected my device??
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Well I don't know if there is or not but from what I know about the problem its random af , so I don't think there is unless only some motherboards are prone to the defect but I think it involves all , just happens randomly . Not 100% sure tho !

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Well I don't know if there is or not but from what I know about the problem its random af , so I don't think there is unless only some motherboards are prone to the defect but I think it involves all , just happens randomly . Not 100% sure tho !
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tnx for your reponse my friend

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tnx for your reponse my friend
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No worries , best of luck

Thinking Of Buying A G4. Two Questions!

Hey all
As the title states I'm thinking of moving on up to a G4 from a Nexus 5 (5X specs are terribly underwhelming to me, haha) and I'm this close to giving in and buying a used H818P in pristine condition. Just a couple questions
1. How prevalent exactly IS the bootloop/stuck at bootlogo issue? Is there a way I can reliably avoid it (serial numbers? undervolting?) and is there an established fix that can take me back from the brink if it happens? Searching XDA and Google has me very nervous with the ambiguity
2. Are there stock AOSP images/flashable zips for H818P? I don't really go for fancy feature-heavy ROMS.
Help a guy out, haha. An expensive paperweight is the last thing I need! Thanks!

DON'T

sspyed said:
Hey all
As the title states I'm thinking of moving on up to a G4 from a Nexus 5 (5X specs are terribly underwhelming to me, haha) and I'm this close to giving in and buying a used H818P in pristine condition. Just a couple questions
1. How prevalent exactly IS the bootloop/stuck at bootlogo issue? Is there a way I can reliably avoid it (serial numbers? undervolting?) and is there an established fix that can take me back from the brink if it happens? Searching XDA and Google has me very nervous with the ambiguity
2. Are there stock AOSP images/flashable zips for H818P? I don't really go for fancy feature-heavy ROMS.
Help a guy out, haha. An expensive paperweight is the last thing I need! Thanks!
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right now i dont see manny bootloops like before but i say as long as you get a 6xx serial chances are very low. there hasnt been anymore massive reports of bootloops. so make sure you have a phone that in any way you can claim warranty.
only tmobile h811 and some european h815- you need to see wich ones can have bootloader unlocked rest is stock rom. maybe only root. in the case that you are in LP.

Ah this is something I didn't know, haha. No AOSP is obviously a deal breaker for me. Off to search for a 6xx serial H815 on eBay, or just stick w my trusty N5 until a good flagship comes round
Thanks fellows!

I wouldn't recommend it. My first H815 G4 (S/N 506) bootlooped, after that I got a replacement (bricked phone got stolen while on its way to repairs) with a 512 serial number.
Although anything higher than 510 was said to be "safe", just yesterday evening that replacement H815 G4 bootlooped, as well.
So from my personal experience there don't seem to be "safe serial numbers" and I'd definitely not buy a used phone (as that will probably have only a very short warranty or even none at all).

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Ah this is something I didn't know, haha. No AOSP is obviously a deal breaker for me. Off to search for a 6xx serial H815 on eBay, or just stick w my trusty N5 until a good flagship comes round
Thanks fellows!
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but make sure the h815 you getting can be bootloader unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/unlock-list-lg-g4-variants-unlocked-t3262621

Well for all I've been able to gather - and I was made to read up by my own SN508.. one dying on me - teh internets will make you thing all '15-manufactured (SN5xx) G4's will bootloop sooner or later, the reported expectancy being a year and a day ))) (No kidding here, mine died a year and 2 month, and I wasn't running much of core-heating stuff like games or bloody arsebook app)
The avalanche of reports seem to cut off around SN603, give or take, tho
a) there's a vague talk about refurbs with SN6xx being basically old bootloopers factory-baked
b) have to keep in mind that with the average life expectancy of "a year and a day" there are TWO possible reasons for lack of '16-year bootloop reports:
- LG fixed it
- It's the same ****, only it's time didn't come yet.
I can't help but admit it is an amazing phone while it works. Not to mention the only one of recent flagships (barring g5 of the same) with both replaceable battery and a SD card - a trend I so wanted to support with my buck.
With all the knowledge and experience I have now I'd say this: new one, SN610+, at a bargain price AND with warranty - a buy. Else - skip.