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I Might Be Wrong But I Think This Phone Does Not Need Custom Roms

I had the gsm version of the GN on Tmobile and now i have the CDMA/LTE Version with Verizon and I got to say this is the first phone that I can actually say there is no need for a custom rom. I had the galaxy s, mytouch 4g, htc sensation and on all those phones a custom rom was always a must and that is not the case with this phone. I have tried many custom roms on here both gsm and cdma and I still havent found one that runs any better, faster or smoother then the stock one. Dont get me wrong I appreciate the developers working on this phone but thats just my opinion I wanted to share with everyone specially the people new to this phone. All you need is root and your good to go for a few custom mods and wireless tethering

No phone needs a custom ROM. A lot of people want custom ROMs. Some may want them more than others. You're happy with the stock setup and thats great. Doesn't mean everyone is.

True thats why I said I might be wrong. Just expressing my thoughts about this phone so far

Custom roms ruin phones. Too many issues. I dont care if they make certain parts better; they always cause more issues than it's worth IMO.
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I agree. I am running 4.0.3 but it's stock.
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If they would have thru in wifi tether i might agree with you. Anyone find a web browser that makes full screen movies yet? Dolphin needs to update. Please?

brian85 said:
Custom roms ruin phones. Too many issues. I dont care if they make certain parts better; they always cause more issues than it's worth IMO.
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I agree. Not that I'm ungrateful to the modders/devs but I don't know how many times I've seen "smooth as butter, no bugs, ultra fast" etc only to have multiple issues with a ROM.

I totally disagree. My Nexus is running much better after rooting and running a custom ROM. And I have absolutely no issues to speak of other than better battery life and a noticeably faster phone.

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I totally disagree. My Nexus is running much better after rooting and running a custom ROM. And I have absolutely no issues to speak of other than better battery life and a noticeably faster phone.
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O.K. I will bite. I assume you are on Verizon. Which ROM and kernel, etc?

i havent done a thing to my hspa GN...dont feel the need to.

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O.K. I will bite. I assume you are on Verizon. Which ROM and kernel, etc?
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I feel the same way.
I'm on AOKP build X1 with Leankernel 1.1.0. Custom voltages as well.

I'm on the fence about this, might give a custom from a try soon. Think I'll stick with the stock kernel for a while though.
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kangxi said:
I agree. I am running 4.0.3 but it's stock.
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Could you provide a link? Thank you.

Many people get a development-friendly Google Experience phone such as this for the express purpose of using custom ROMs. Many others just want a straight Android phone with no TouchWiz/Sense/Blur on it and that gets timely software updates. To each his own (though I like to push the boundaries of Android's potential and try various ROM/kernel/mod/theme combinations). Yes, custom ROMs often have bugs in them (our devs often work alone or with small teams for free and squeeze dev work between job and family life - besides, even stock has bugs, and Google has legions of coders and testers). In addition to some bugs, though, they usually offer performance, features, and eye candy not available on stock.
Has anyone seen John Connor?

this is what I'm on all stock rooted and clockwork recovery. battery life is great and I don't have the problems that some people have experienced with google apps and with the market not restoring etc. and like I said I have tried custom roms on both the GSM and CDMA/LTE Galaxy Nexus. just sharing my experience on both phone also to add Verizons Network runs 2-3 times faster then Tmobile's Network in Los Angeles.
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Personally I'm going to stay stock until a kernal that catches my eye comes out

Storm T said:
I totally disagree. My Nexus is running much better after rooting and running a custom ROM. And I have absolutely no issues to speak of other than better battery life and a noticeably faster phone.
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Totally agree.
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i have to agree. i am rooted but find no rom got my interest. maybe cm9, but it's not stable yet.

my main reason to root my phones have always been to remove all the sh!t that verizon puts in their phones, so with this one being 90% crapware free,i feel no need to root it.

A ROM may not be necessary, but a new launcher for sure. Nova launcher allows enough customization to do most things.
Roman just released a "milestone" ROM version of aokp that's solid and ships with stock kernel. His drop down toggles are the best.
Its my daily driver now for sure. I hit it hard flashing since I bought this phone, but need to take a break and this ROM is it for me. And I'm sticking with stock kernel just to keep GTA 3 working

Is anyone getting the HTC one?

I think that there is a quad core HTC one s coming out for the Tmobile line of phones. Anyone getting it, more undoubtedly there is an gs blaze being released add an addition to the galaxy s series of phones which is a hype looking at how we already have an original s and s2 all this does is make the galaxy s team further.
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Not a quad core......
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not with the S3 right around the corner

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not with the S3 right around the corner
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Do you really want to stay on the samsung boat? Android 5.0 is going to be launched this year, and youll have to wait 4+ months for an update again. When i jump shop, its to a phone with a running non-beta CM9. Its clear this phone has nothing in terms of CM and waiting till summer for ICS is simply pathetic on Samsungs part.

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Do you really want to stay on the samsung boat? Android 5.0 is going to be launched this year, and youll have to wait 4+ months for an update again. When i jump shop, its to a phone with a running non-beta CM9. Its clear this phone has nothing in terms of CM and waiting till summer for ICS is simply pathetic on Samsungs part.
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That's what I'm saying. This will probably be my last carrier subsidized phone period. Waiting on Samsung and then waiting on the carrier is a joke. This phone has been a big disappointment. I like the phone, but its like the red headed step child of the galaxy phones. This along with the skyrocket. I stopped waiting on ICS a while ago. Samsung is so hush mouth about updates. Makes you think they will do anything to get you to buy another phone. No thanks Sammy.
When we finally get ICS it will be dated and the next best thing will be out. By then the gsII will be yesterdays news. Google really needs to be more like Apple with updates. They are starting to leave a bad taste for me. This may sound like a rant but its true.

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I think that there is a quad core HTC one s coming out for the Tmobile line of phones. Anyone getting it, more undoubtedly there is an gs blaze being released add an addition to the galaxy s series of phones which is a hype looking at how we already have an original s and s2 all this does is make the galaxy s team further.
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The HTC one S seems like a small downgrade of the amaze....like the blaze is a downgrade of the s2
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i wouldn't go HTC until they go back to making quality phones. They went downhill lately with crappy battery life and cheap lcd displays. just like how samsung had a slump until the gs2's got released

I'm looking at the Asus Padphone or the SGS3, depending on which one comes out with an AWS or Pentaband version.

The HTC one x is the one with the quad-core
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Mitallust said:
I'm looking at the Asus Padphone or the SGS3, depending on which one comes out with an AWS or Pentaband version.
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Asus has been quite good on updates with their current devices. If they keep that up id consider asus products in the future.
But at this point, im so sick of the android fragmentation that its either gonna be the google phone, or an iphone. Windows phones are starting to look more and more tempting to, specially with Windows 8 coming and whatever integration they have planned.
Even the google phones might get screwed on the CDMA side, and my carrier is CDMA only.
But its become quite clear that they havent finished ICS for the intl GSII, and probably havent started ours even. The CM team has nothing either. Have heard rumors that Cyanogen himself uses a T989 but i really doubt it, cause wed have an alpha at least.

Rekzer said:
Asus has been quite good on updates with their current devices. If they keep that up id consider asus products in the future.
But at this point, im so sick of the android fragmentation that its either gonna be the google phone, or an iphone. Windows phones are starting to look more and more tempting to, specially with Windows 8 coming and whatever integration they have planned.
Even the google phones might get screwed on the CDMA side, and my carrier is CDMA only.
But its become quite clear that they havent finished ICS for the intl GSII, and probably havent started ours even. The CM team has nothing either. Have heard rumors that Cyanogen himself uses a T989 but i really doubt it, cause wed have an alpha at least.
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Been using wp7. For the last two 1/2 months and although the apps aren't there yet, its been a refreshing change from all this ICS mess. Once T-Mobile comes out with a 4.3 or higher screen size, I will probably make a full switch.
I miss some of my apps and games though. Then again my ps3 takes care of the gaming issue. Wp7 runs so much smoother. Its nice to take a break from android.

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Been using wp7. For the last two 1/2 months and although the apps aren't there yet, its been a refreshing change from all this ICS mess. Once T-Mobile comes out with a 4.3 or higher screen size, I will probably make a full switch.
I miss some of my apps and games though. Then again my ps3 takes care of the gaming issue. Wp7 runs so much smoother. Its nice to take a break from android.
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Ya dude, with win8 tablets n all that coming, i think WP8 is my next upgrade when i think about it. MS/Nokia are making some high quality products.

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Will you sell your nexus for the gs3

I am fortunate enough to have my contract up in may so I can get an upgrade and I will to the gs3 .will any one else be selling there gn for the gs3 when it comes out ?
And I know I have not seen it yet but I can bet that the camera and speaker will be better and the rest will be the same .
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Probably.. One of the reasons I got the GNex (aside from the gorgeous screen) was because it would be "first in line" for updates. So far 4.0.4 is out and still no official update is available and I'd be stuck on 4.0.1 if I hadn't rooted and updated to 4.0.2 manually. Google not commenting on the issue doesn't help either.

Probably.
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I got a feeling that hardware in gs3 will be very tempting for us but don't forget no pure ics and no up to time updates comparing to nexus. As a former user of gs2 and now a nexus rider I must say that I will stick to nexus line even it has less power inside because software development is better for gnex and it is priority for me
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I'm pretty happy with my nexus, don't see any reason to unreasonably upgrade, also the galaxy s 3 hasn't been announced, how can you be sure its going to be that great (I know it probably will but still?).
Plus its just another device for people to cry about that its not getting the latest update quick enough -_-".
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I got a feeling that hardware in gs3 will be very tempting for us but don't forget no pure ics and no up to time updates comparing to nexus. As a former user of gs2 and now a nexus rider I must say that I will stick to nexus line even it has less power inside because software development is better for gnex and it is priority for me
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Agree with you there. And if touchwiz on GS3 is in any way like the leaked ICS for the GS2, I think I'll pass. Besides nexus hardware is more than enough for my smartphone needs, i.e., mostly internet, not much gaming.

Doubt i'll sell my nexus as I never sell old phones, but I will probably get a GS3 at some point, as it should blow Nexus off the planet.
As for software updates, GS2 gave more updates, at a much faster rate than Nexus, so GS3 should be much much better for updates.
Nexus has Android 4. but I doubt it will get 5, and the speed of the incremental android 4 updates is a joke.. 1 update since I got my phone.. GS2 had updates all the time! I'd rather get incremental updates within Android 4 timely with an SGS3 than waiting an eternity for any update on Nexus.
Nah sod the notion of speedy updates on nexus devices, they don't exist.
I'd take Touchwiz and a fast Galaxy phone over the slow and laggy Nexus any day. GS3 will hopefully have equal screen than nexus, which is the nexus's only real selling point.
It'll be nice to have a phone with a HD screen which you won't have to hear all the excuses that it is so slow because it has so many more pixels to push blah blah blah.

So magical?

I won't. I'm very happy with the GNex. I also have a hard to believing that the GS3 won't be very buggy at first.

I wont, cause I have a 2 years contract for my GNex, and my parents wont probably buy me it, just gonna use my Gnex till it fails

Nope. Will not. Will most likely only replace with the next generation of Nexus model. Once a nexus, always a nexus

Probably not. But if I do, it'll only happen if the international GS3 supports HSPA+ on both the AWS and PCS bands.
I'm never getting a carrier subsidized phone again, and my next phone will have to support both bands so I can switch between both networks as I see fit.

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cuz i had enough with sgs2. i dont mind touchwiz cuz i can install cm9 or any aosp but samsung sucks when sharing their sources. htc does it better.
and i can see where sgs2 is heading when Jelly Bean is out. its gotta be like sgs1 for ics in this case. I'm sure Gnex will receive JB just like Nexus S receive ICS.

htc One X .... Perhaps
GS3 .... No way
but this is just me ... nothing wrong with GS3

Nope. Not a chance. Had gs2 before the gnex n while it was a great phone it, like the nexus, was not perfect. Doing anything for more than 15min made it really hot, it took 3hrs to charge, the home button was clunky, while i actually liked touch wiz the icons were cartoony and colour was massivley over saturated. Basically my feelings on it were; whilst there is no doubt it was a power house of a device it was too powerfull for itself hence the heat and massive battery drain and stupidly long charge time... try using navigation whilst charging.... toasty my point being the supposed specs for gs3 sound cool but find it hard to believe it wont result in the same problems.
The nexus may have a hint of lag at times.. that is unavoidable because of the way android is written... my stock gs2 did at times too.
While the nexus if also far from perfect im with matey above... nexus line all the way for me now. As for updates... ffs. Gs2 has had a couple of pointless updates that havent changed, improved anything. Yep waiting is annoying and i cirtainly want an update that stops the random reboots, id rather wait for this than have an update that fixes this but adds new bugs.
Enjoy what u have, unless you have endless cash to upgrade every 2-3 months youll never be happy.
/rant over

Hardware wise if it walks my dog and makes my breakfast, then yes. Otherwise TW will be barfed onto it, I'll pass.

No, and it's all to do with Samsung. I'm done with them for quite a while.
With the GS3 I don't expect to see manufacturer promised accessories unless the phone is a huge hit. And design mistakes like not being able to completely power the phone while running in the car dock made it an accessory not worth having.
Prior experience with the GS showed that they were unwilling to do anything about a serious hardware defect.
All in all I'm tired of being pooped on regardless of how cool their new device appears to be.
They wore me out. I'll wait to see what the new Google/Motorola relationship produces.

No, most likely i'll stick with GNex as previously i've had very bad experience with SGS2 phones. Better i'll wait till next Nexus phone comes out. And lastly - my GNex still feels like new, i gotta use it a bit more

probably not, but will definitely purchase a gs3 to play with. Anyways, normally give my phones to family and this Nexus will probably go to my sister.

well you probably learned something by now.
coming from a, 1st droid>blade>sgs>sgn.. you should know by now that only the nexus line gets updates and more support from the community.. even the orig nexus successfully ran ics
I'm never ever gonna beg for updates from the manufacturer again
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Planning on getting the GS3

So I'm planning on getting the Gs3 in about a week. $300 for the phone, original packaging and a couple cases. Just wanted some input on if that's a decent deal and if you guys would do it. I used my upgrade a few months ago to get the EVO LTE, but I want to try something different for awhile. Thanks

metalfan78 said:
So I'm planning on getting the Gs3 in about a week. $300 for the phone, original packaging and a couple cases. Just wanted some input on if that's a decent deal and if you guys would do it. I used my upgrade a few months ago to get the EVO LTE, but I want to try something different for awhile. Thanks
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Thats not a bad deal bro I paid 200 for mine with a upgrade n u will love the s3 its a bad a$$ phone but I say that's a dahg good deal bro jump on that don't pass that up
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metalfan78 said:
So I'm planning on getting the Gs3 in about a week. $300 for the phone, original packaging and a couple cases. Just wanted some input on if that's a decent deal and if you guys would do it. I used my upgrade a few months ago to get the EVO LTE, but I want to try something different for awhile. Thanks
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They're actually going for 350-400 so that's not a bad price. I have a few buyers set to buy mines at $375ish.
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My only reservation is that I have had Samsung phones and was not very happy, but it seems like they got this one right. My biggest concern is Samsungs gps. Did they get it working good?

there aren't a lot of complaints on the forums.. so no, gps works pretty well. i can practically use navigation inside my house, even indoors it seems to gps lock fairly quick.

That's what I figured, I haven't read anything negative about it anywhere. I appreciate all the input.

i know what your talking about, i had that problem with the nexus, but it isn't a issue here.
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metalfan78 said:
My only reservation is that I have had Samsung phones and was not very happy, but it seems like they got this one right. My biggest concern is Samsungs gps. Did they get it working good?
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Well this is my first Sammy. Although I miss my team and thread lol, I'm extremely happy so far. Haven't lost lte either. Witless radios are great. Do it up!
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Good deal. Have a look at the note 2 also.

I looked at the Note. It's a too big for me.

Man this phone looks easy to root too. I had the Samsung vibrant when I was on Tmobile and rooting and using Odin was a cakewalk. I always wished htc would become this root friendly.

Man I've had the epic 4g the epic 4g touch and the s3 and this is definitely the best. I can get gps indoors for the first time and the battery life is double for me!
A great phone you won't be disappointed!

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Man this phone looks easy to root too. I had the Samsung vibrant when I was on Tmobile and rooting and using Odin was a cakewalk. I always wished htc would become this root friendly.
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amend on that bro HTC sux on rooting so dang fragile
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I've been doing a little research and I've come across a lot of threads in various forums about poor signal strength and dropped calls on the s3. Does it still suffer from this problem? I never came across anyone saying it was fixed.

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I've been doing a little research and I've come across a lot of threads in various forums about poor signal strength and dropped calls on the s3. Does it still suffer from this problem? I never came across anyone saying it was fixed.
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I think that just a aokp or aosp roms bro I'm using a tw ron n I don't have that problem at all n a lot it stands what modem ur using to bud
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Good to know, I don't use aosp or aokp roms anyway.

metalfan78 said:
I've been doing a little research and I've come across a lot of threads in various forums about poor signal strength and dropped calls on the s3. Does it still suffer from this problem? I never came across anyone saying it was fixed.
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Depending upon your area, it's not so much the phone as much as it is that Sprint service sucks right now due to the NV upgrades. I haven't been happier with a phone since I started using smart phones with the OG Droid a few years back. It's stable, sturdy, easy to customize, and depending on which ROM you choose the battery life is KILLER!!!!

Get the gs3 I had the evo lte and don't miss it much
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Hey I wouldn't root it right away man. Keep it stock for a couple weeks at least.. Get your jb update or manually update it to jb and you'll love it even more lol. Best phone I've ever had =D

I always root right away, there's no reason for me to wait to do that.

What kind of ROM you running ? Stock or AOSP ?

Just got my Note 2 last night Awesome device, a bit bigger than my old international One X running CM10, but getting used to size. I rooted it out of the box, man it was the easiest quickest root ever for me. Just installed a stock ROM ( cleanrom ) and simple ICS blue theme to start off, and try out the S-Pen and Touchwiz features. So far so good, running on Straight Talk ATT sim, very fast, great service today so far. .
I have been on stock AOSP Android for years, Nexus-One, Nexus-S, Galaxy Nexus, One X running CM10. I did have the Galaxy S II running a good stock Touchwiz ROM and heavily ICS theme which I liked a lot.
Curious what are you running ? Stock Touchwiz based ROM, or AOSP CM10.1 ROM ? I love AOSP, but are any of the CM10 based ROM's for the ATT Note II good enough as a daily ROM with little bugs ? But AOSP ROM's on the Note II get rid of all the S-Pen features and note writing ? I mean the S-Pen is a big deal on the Note phones, would suck to lose all those features, but then again AOSP is awesome if a good stable and quality ROM.
Of the AOSP ROM's which one for our Note II is the most stable, and offer custom DPI and cool features above and beyond just stock nightly CM10.1 ? And of the stock Touchwiz ROM's which is your favorite, with cool themes and dark apps ? So many to chose from
I am using Nova launcher, and makes the phone look more stock, with cool features, and the 6 x 6 grid fits the Note perfectly. I am shocked actually with Nova on a stock cleanrom, it does feel act very much like stock AOSP.
Thank you

I was on CleanROM SE for a while and everything ran really good. All the stock Sammy features were there.
I just switched over to CM10.1 because I dont use all the SPen features and Samsung stuff so I figured to give it a go. Its pretty stable. Love the stock group messaging. The camcorder volume doesnt work....but there has been a update post today saying it is working now with a reflash of an updated version. That makes google now work and camcorder audio. I havent checked it myself yet. I have NOVA running as my launcher and its nice. If you dont need all the sammy stuff I would say give it a shot. If you need all the Sammy stuff CleanROM SE is awesome.
I really just like not having a ton of Sammy stuff running on the phone that I dont use. My apps in memory went from 1 gig on CleanROM SE to 750 megs on CM10.1. I really like all the stock stuff that CM10.1 has right off the bat. Being able to change all the notification colors, toggles, right swipe down for other toggles on the notification bar. Its not perfect but I dont mind.

Which specific ROM are you running ?
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Skynote 6.2 with perseus kernel and 5g profile.....

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Which specific ROM are you running ?
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Running this one currently.
[ROM][SGH-I317 / t0lte][JB][4.2.1] CyanogenMod 10.1 official nightlies

Holy cow, battery life after one day is AMAZING
Unplugged for 17 hours now, been using it nonstop, almost 6 hours screen time. Battery @ 33% :good:

yeah Scott's ROM is most excellent. The most I got out of it was 5 1/2 hours screen and just over a day off the charger.
The reasons I switched
1) I like to tinker and have never used a CM ROM
2) I was running the original version of SE and needed to update to 1.2 and in order to do that I had to wipe/factory reset etc so I figured why not try it.
3) I was really digging the stock feel of android....and all the options available directly from stock.
I already have CleanROM SE 1.2 on my external SD because if I go back that will be the one. Great battery life on the stock experience.

Staying srock after leaving my nexus 4 to get the note because I missed my sgs3 so much I Freakin awesome! Its everything I loved and missed with my sgs3 but with so much more functionality and greatness. Im keeping this phone the way it is until I sell it c or my note 3
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AndreaCristiano said:
Staying srock after leaving my nexus 4 to get the note because I missed my sgs3 so much I Freakin awesome! Its everything I loved and missed with my sgs3 but with so much more functionality and greatness. Im keeping this phone the way it is until I sell it c or my note 3
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Same here, I've had nothing but nexus phones for the past 2 years until I bought the s3, then sold it for the nexus 4. I was one of the few lucky to people to get a order through on the release day. But after having it for a month I realized I do not like lg phones. But yeah I like stock touchwiz. I'm currently running the international ROM because I really like seeing the h+. its a great phone
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I was using sky note, but now I'm trying out the different 4.2.1 aosp ROMs. I'm on liquid right now. I prefer aosp because I like using the latest and greatest. Plus I missed aokp on my s3.
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Tried a couple aosp roms, but keep coming back to tw. Ran lots of aokp roms on my nexus and note 1, so tw is different to me. As cool as cm based roms are, just seems like my old phone.