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S-Pen Calibration Help Needed.

Hi, I've had my galaxy note 2 for about a month now and I absolutely love it. I love the fact where I can pull out the S-Pen and take a note. The problem I'm facing is that on the left side of the screen towords the bottom it seems to be off when I write. Wherever I write in that section it seems to write it to the right of where my pen is touching the screen. Take a look at the attached picture.
Now I've google searched if there is a method to calibrate the S Pen. But the only thing I seem to find is a method that works with the original Galaxy Note 1. And I have also come across an app called TouchscreenTune that helps you calibrate the S-Pen. But as far as I know this app calibrates the S Pen for the entire screen. For example if I calibrate the S Pen with this application and make it so it writes to the left instead of how it's off by going to the right it will do that for the entire screen. I'm only having this issue at that 1 section of the screen. Can anybody help me out please?
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Same issue
I don't have any solutions, but I can confirm that I'm having the same issue. It happens in a few places, but all of them are towards the edge fo the screen. I noticed it trying to make a line with a straight edge in sketchbook mobile, which this makes it impossible to do. Similarly, I've searched and can't find any suggestions on calibration. I'll take it to a sprint store in a few days.

I will be interested in hearing what they say. Im having the same problem.
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I have the same problem, it's happen on the right left of the screen

I am having the exact same issue. It is really hard to write in the bottom left area.

I dont have such issues.. ive just tried.. im not boasting, just saying... maybe defective spen?
Handwritten from my Note 2

Laynee1 said:
I dont have such issues.. ive just tried.. im not boasting, just saying... maybe defective spen?
Handwritten from my Note 2
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Thanks for the comment. Just to make sure, when you write a bunch in that bottom left area, there's no interuptions in the inking or it's hard to write because the cursor doesn't stay centered?
I'm trying to figure out if this is something all of them have that's just too minor for most people to notice or there's just a few bad apples. I'll be at verizon tomorrow testing out some other note 2s and see if I see a pattern. If not, I'll just return.

Alvarez1E said:
Thanks for the comment. Just to make sure, when you write a bunch in that bottom left area, there's no interuptions in the inking or it's hard to write because the cursor doesn't stay centered?
I'm trying to figure out if this is something all of them have that's just too minor for most people to notice or there's just a few bad apples. I'll be at verizon tomorrow testing out some other note 2s and see if I see a pattern. If not, I'll just return.
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I have just checked it out.. When i write in bottom left area, everything is ok.. If you dont belive me ill screenshot you proof.. Again, i just wanna help you mate..

No issues here.
Is it still off in the Wacom test (in dialler enter *#0*#)?

Laynee1 said:
I have just checked it out.. When i write in bottom left area, everything is ok.. If you dont belive me ill screenshot you proof.. Again, i just wanna help you mate..
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Nah, I believe you. Sounds like I need to go back to vzw.
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No issues here.
Is it still off in the Wacom test (in dialler enter *#0*#)?
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Glad yours works. That code doesn't work for me. I'm on a verizon phone which means they probably jacked that up too along with everything else.

Interesting development today.
Exchanged my phone to verizon. Was really excited the new one was working so well. Went home and it started to do it again. Got real up set and then light bulb popped up. There's a magnet on the back of my seidio kickstand case. Took the case off and now it works fine. Which means the other one probably worked fine as well. Annoyed that I spent $50 on this stupid case.

Those with issues should check this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029990
Don't thank me, thank the dev if it works for you

Alvarez1E said:
Interesting development today.
Exchanged my phone to verizon. Was really excited the new one was working so well. Went home and it started to do it again. Got real up set and then light bulb popped up. There's a magnet on the back of my seidio kickstand case. Took the case off and now it works fine. Which means the other one probably worked fine as well. Annoyed that I spent $50 on this stupid case.
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Yeah, you should never use any kind of case with magnets with a phone with a Wacom digitizer.
It's really a shame, otherwise I would've bought the KLD Ultra Slim PU Leather Flip Cover Case already.

Hi, sorry for the late response. But i went to Best Buy and tried another S-Pen and with the S-Pen it does the same thing. It weird, When i right the actual ink is not under where my pen is, its more to the right of it. Even if i hover the S-Pen over the screen the little circle thing is also off to the right abit. I tried to use that TouchScreen Tune app, but when i apply the changes in it, it says Failed< Unsupported ROM or FW. I use the S-Pen alot, and it sucks because of this inconvenience.

Oh and i can confirm that the App posted in that Link "Reset S-Pen" Does NOT work to fix this issue. I wish it was just the S-Pen that was defective. I have no problem going to Best Buy and buying a new one for $40.

My s pen accuracy improved when I did what another forum suggested. Go into pen settings, and switch it to left handed, and then back to right handed. That resets the calibration.
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standarduser said:
My s pen accuracy improved when I did what another forum suggested. Go into pen settings, and switch it to left handed, and then back to right handed. That resets the calibration.
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Hi, I tried multiple times to do that but each time it results the same. It makes no difference. Maybe I just got a bad Wacom digitizer.
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Do yoi have it in a case? I did and found that there was a magnet closure (which screws up the digitizer).
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I got the same problem but it is normal to get a little departure right
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standarduser said:
Do yoi have it in a car e? I did and found that there was a magnet closure (which screws up the digitizer).
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Hi, i am using the original Samsung Flip Cover Case. It has no magnets. And i dont think this should be happening. I would expect this kind of defects from a cheap $100-$300 phone. Not from the best smartphone in the world that retails for over $700!

Cool spen trick! Tap while hovering.

So if you want to tap while hovering. Get the s pen close to the screen and put your finger under the s pen tip and press the tip in. I just found out that the screen isn't the one recognizing the taps. The s pen has a sensor that tells the phone that it is touching the screen. Maybe many of you knew this but I just found out so wanted to share!
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UrbanLagoon said:
So if you want to tap while hovering. Get the s pen close to the screen and put your finger under the s pen tip and press the tip in. I just found out that the screen isn't the one recognizing the taps. The s pen has a sensor that tells the phone that it is touching the screen. Maybe many of you knew this but I just found out so wanted to share!
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Neat! Even though you would have to practice to be able to do it well, since it is so tiny.
They should have added an extra button on the pen to do that action.

Ya I really wish they did. I been trying to find some kind of method to tap while hovering for a longggg time

I wish clicking the button on the S-Pen could function as a tap so I could browse like this...

UCLAKoolman said:
I wish clicking the button on the S-Pen could function as a tap so I could browse like this...
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That would be pretty cool.. It's probably just a matter of time here at XDA.
Actually I might get an extra pen & try to take this on. If the phone can register a click while hovering using your trick (which I tried and it definitely does), it should theoretically be possible to remap the hard-button to tap into the same trigger that the phone recognizes when the pen's tip is pressed. It's gonna be a ***** getting this pen apart but at least the button is close to the tip :good:.
If anyone knows where to get a note 2 pen for less than $50 let me know..
EDIT: Just discovered that if you hold your finger over the tip of the pen (keeping the tip depressed) you can scroll/tap/etc. when you're within an inch or two of the screen.. Intersting

zoso28 said:
That would be pretty cool.. It's probably just a matter of time here at XDA.
Actually I might get an extra pen & try to take this on. If the phone can register a click while hovering using your trick (which I tried and it definitely does), it should theoretically be possible to remap the hard-button to tap into the same trigger that the phone recognizes when the pen's tip is pressed. It's gonna be a ***** getting this pen apart but at least the button is close to the tip :good:.
If anyone knows where to get a note 2 pen for less than $50 let me know..
EDIT: Just discovered that if you hold your finger over the tip of the pen (keeping the tip depressed) you can scroll/tap/etc. when you're within an inch or two of the screen.. Intersting
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That would be amazing. If you go on Samsung site, they have s-pens for $30 and there's a coupon that gives you 50% off if you register your note 2 on samsung website.
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Just take a look around for any pen that works with a bamboo tablet digitizer thing (those writing pads for computers) from my understanding, as long as it works with that, then it'll work with the note 2
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FireBird_89 said:
Just take a look around for any pen that works with a bamboo tablet digitizer thing (those writing pads for computers) from my understanding, as long as it works with that, then it'll work with the note 2
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No so. Those use Wacom or N-Trig digitizers. Does not work with Samsung technology. Believe me, that is the first thing I tried with my Bamboo pen as soon as I got my device.

meatlocker said:
No so. Those use Wacom or N-Trig digitizers. Does not work with Samsung technology. Believe me, that is the first thing I tried with my Bamboo pen as soon as I got my device.
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Aw man! I was going to head over to my friends place tonight to check it out.
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UrbanLagoon said:
So if you want to tap while hovering. Get the s pen close to the screen and put your finger under the s pen tip and press the tip in. I just found out that the screen isn't the one recognizing the taps. The s pen has a sensor that tells the phone that it is touching the screen. Maybe many of you knew this but I just found out so wanted to share!
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Or you could just Tap the pen on the phone....? Not sure what this does for us?

royalh said:
Or you could just Tap the pen on the phone....? Not sure what this does for us?
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The idea that I was thinking of, as a spin-off to the OP's comment, was having a pen modified so that you could just wave over the screen to move around within the OS and just tap the button to interact. Obviously it's not a game-changer but it would be fun playing some games or even swyping without having to touch the screen.
There might even be a way to modify a glove or something that works in a manner similar to kinect.. of course you'd have to be pretty close to the screen but still might be a fun little project to play around with.. Anyway, extra pen is on it's way.. we'll see where this goes.

I think you could just remove the s-pen button cover and adjust the sensitivity pot and achieve the same thing?

Prety neat trick consideringi have the invisable shield and the spen destroys it
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No so. Those use Wacom or N-Trig digitizers. Does not work with Samsung technology. Believe me, that is the first thing I tried with my Bamboo pen as soon as I got my device.
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Oh ok. Maybe I misunderstood what is going on in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXSb8a_xiHA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Does appear in the comments that perhaps certain wacom pens work
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UrbanLagoon said:
So if you want to tap while hovering. Get the s pen close to the screen and put your finger under the s pen tip and press the tip in. I just found out that the screen isn't the one recognizing the taps. The s pen has a sensor that tells the phone that it is touching the screen. Maybe many of you knew this but I just found out so wanted to share!
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Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but another cool spen trick that I happened upon while hovering is switching from pen to eraser by clicking the spen button.

Since it looks like we are starting a Cool S-Pen thread here it works ridiculously well in splashtop and gives you a super responsive and accurate mouse
And as for figuring out a way to click without touching the screen it would probobly be easier to swap the input events rather than physically modding the pen

mrevankyle said:
Since it looks like we are starting a Cool S-Pen thread here it works ridiculously well in splashtop and gives you a super responsive and accurate mouse
And as for figuring out a way to click without touching the screen it would probobly be easier to swap the input events rather than physically modding the pen
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Yeah I been searching for something that could do that.
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FireBird_89 said:
Oh ok. Maybe I misunderstood what is going on in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXSb8a_xiHA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Does appear in the comments that perhaps certain wacom pens work
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The pen from my think pad tablet works on my note and the spen works on the note. The laptop has a wacom digitizer in it. Anandtech says the note uses wacom.
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liveify said:
The pen from my think pad tablet works on my note and the spen works on the note. The laptop has a wacom digitizer in it. Anandtech says the note uses wacom.
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It is absolutely a Wacom digitizer. Dia *#0*# and there is a wacom test
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mrevankyle said:
Since it looks like we are starting a Cool S-Pen thread here it works ridiculously well in splashtop and gives you a super responsive and accurate mouse
And as for figuring out a way to click without touching the screen it would probobly be easier to swap the input events rather than physically modding the pen
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Wow that's a much better idea than the hardware mod I was thinking of.. I'm an absolute beginner at coding & hardware comes easily to me so I don't feel too stupid for not thinking of it.
Ideally I want to try & write an app that would give you the option of switching the preset input events on the fly so I could go from normal spen use to "hover" spen mode with an IME type notification or something.. Now where to begin
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Has anyone tried a capacitive stylus on OG Pro?

Finger works fine, but might want to try a stylus... which one is best for OG Pro?

i have these cheap ones from amazon that work perfectly
http://www.amazon.com/Capacitive-Ce...&qid=1369066093&sr=8-1&keywords=iphone+stylus

I got one of the Bamboo Solo Stylus from amazon http://www.amazon.com/Bamboo-Solo-S...&qid=1369155435&sr=8-1&keywords=bamboo+stylus works really well.

I'm not sure what the brand is, but I got a pen/stylus from 5 Below that works really well. I'll upload a picture of the handwriting I did without any edits or anything. This was my first attempt.

What I really want is a stylus with a tip as slim as what Samsung uses in the Note 2. Unfortunately those will not work.
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Same here dude. I need to do signatures and convince my boss to go all digital and loose the paper trail but can't find a fine enough stylus tip.
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Jammol said:
Same here dude. I need to do signatures and convince my boss to go all digital and loose the paper trail but can't find a fine enough stylus tip.
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The only problem is that capacitive touchscreens require input to be the approximate width of a human finger in order to ignore random/incidental touches.

mrfeuss said:
The only problem is that capacitive touchscreens require input to be the approximate width of a human finger in order to ignore random/incidental touches.
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Did not know that. So I suppose Samsung does NOT use capacitive touchscreens then? (Never really dug to deep on the HOW things work, just appreciative when they do.) :thumbup:
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I believe they actually have a second digitizer made by Wacom specifically to interact with the SPen. Not 100% Certain on the second digitizer, but I think I read that somewhere.

mrfeuss said:
The only problem is that capacitive touchscreens require input to be the approximate width of a human finger in order to ignore random/incidental touches.
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Sorry if I sound a little newbish for asking but if we change the LCD density, wouldn't that have some effect with the touch input? Such as make it more sensitive or the area smaller?
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I use this one and it works great! It even works with the back and menu buttons. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0081O0U2K/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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I use this one and it works great! It even works with the back and menu buttons. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0081O0U2K/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Hmm, most of the ones I've seen are much cheaper than that one. I was hoping that someone had a drawer-full and would see which is best... (If I had asked which is best, would this thread have still been moved?)

How do you active stylus support on the G Pro?

stevefxp said:
How do you active stylus support on the G Pro?
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You don't have to activate stylus support. You're still limited to capacitive styli, so the S-Pen will not work for you.

Here's more like what I had in mind. $0 from the LG guy at the at&t store. He said they all work about the same, just pick one that fits your hand...

Yes
mgd76 said:
Finger works fine, but might want to try a stylus... which one is best for OG Pro?
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Yes, it Works perfectly. Cheers

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You don't have to activate stylus support. You're still limited to capacitive styli, so the S-Pen will not work for you.
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Hmm I have a capacitive stylus and it does not seem to be operating. I did enable the Handwriting option under Language and Input/LG Keyboard.

stevefxp said:
Hmm I have a capacitive stylus and it does not seem to be operating. I did enable the Handwriting option under Language and Input/LG Keyboard.
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It's possible that the stylus tip isn't wide enough for the screen to recognize it. Capacitive screens are calibrated to recognize touches the approximate size of a human finger, so it would need to be roughly the size of your pinkie finger to register as a valid touch.

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Capacitive screens are calibrated to recognize touches the approximate size of a human finger
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I've heard that before, but all the styli seem to use the same rubbery tip. Much smaller than my pinkie. Hmm...

mgd76 said:
I've heard that before, but all the styli seem to use the same rubbery tip. Much smaller than my pinkie. Hmm...
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Yeah the rubber tips and the silicone brushes are really the only styli that will work for us.

Capactive or On Screen?

As for me, I sincerely hope the buttons are capacitive. I've never been a fan of on screen buttons for various reasons, not to mention. If they are on screen buttons, what the heck is the big black strip at the bottom for? It holds the HTC Logo, sure, but if that's the only reason, then make more use of it. Put some freaking buttons there. Lol. I absolutely love my HTC One 2013, and I'm more than likely getting the 2014 model (which i really hope is called the One Up as some rumors suggest), but the on-screen buttons kill me.

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As for me, I sincerely hope the buttons are capacitive. I've never been a fan of on screen buttons for various reasons, not to mention. If they are on screen buttons, what the heck is the big black strip at the bottom for? It holds the HTC Logo, sure, but if that's the only reason, then make more use of it. Put some freaking buttons there. Lol. I absolutely love my HTC One 2013, and I'm more than likely getting the 2014 model (which i really hope is called the One Up as some rumors suggest), but the on-screen buttons kill me.
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on screen navbar. this was confirmed a long long time ago.

mrvirginia said:
on screen navbar. this was confirmed a long long time ago.
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Confirmed by who? Don't a lot of phones use on screen simply for development models, then add the capacitive in the final models?

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Confirmed by who? Don't a lot of phones use on screen simply for development models, then add the capacitive in the final models?
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i guess you haven't been keeping track of the enormous amount of leaks regarding this device. visit a few phone tech sites like phonearena.com and you'll find all the info you might like to know.

mrvirginia said:
i guess you haven't been keeping track of the enormous amount of leaks regarding this device. visit a few phone tech sites like phonearena.com and you'll find all the info you might like to know.
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I've read a lot of the leaks, and none have really CONFIRMED on screen. Most do show it though. My big question is why the big black useless bar. It just looks bad if there's no use for it.

ryno9100 said:
I've read a lot of the leaks, and none have really CONFIRMED on screen. Most do show it though. My big question is why the big black useless bar. It just looks bad if there's no use for it.
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that's confirmation...
HTC wants their name on the front. if you don't like it, i would suggest a different device.

mrvirginia said:
that's confirmation...
HTC wants their name on the front. if you don't like it, i would suggest a different device.
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On screen isn't a game breaker for me. Just a nitpick. The all metal body and front facing speaker (as well as the Sense UI,which IMO isthe best stock UI) are enough to warrant me wanting one. Plus I have to buy a phone so I can give my wife my old M7

M8 dump has on screen buttons, if that's not enough confirmation :00
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Maybe they couldn't fit all the internals without the bezel. It doesn't bother me either way
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Maybe they couldn't fit all the internals without the bezel. It doesn't bother me either way
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AFAIK
On screen nav keys are very uncomfortable ...you will be confused about where to click...and in android (except Nexus) nav key bar resizes the layout everytime when appearing...this thing is most annoying!!!
So my decision is I wont buy this if it has On Screen nav...good bye
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meh, on screen keys will be quite nice, and im positive they'll be customize-able once rooted and xposed added in, just look at aosp, can put almost whatever button you want down there.

I actually find on-screen buttons more comfortable. Capacitive buttons on a large device dramatically increases the range of thumb motion required to efficiently operate it one handed. I can't say how many times I've tried to elegantly enable on-screen buttons on my GS3, but each time I was successful it was much less of a reach to hit the menu button.
I am excite for this phone. Seems more and more like a real winner. I don't mind a 2600 mah battery as the GS4 had that same size and was just fine. I was concerned they'd go with 2300-2400, at which point it'd be a deal breaker.
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I'm hopeful thatvthey might offer the ability to turn off on screen buttons, with hidden capacitive buttons in the large black bar. That would be ideal--the best of both worlds.
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Div033 said:
I actually find on-screen buttons more comfortable. Capacitive buttons on a large device dramatically increases the range of thumb motion required to efficiently operate it one handed. I can't say how many times I've tried to elegantly enable on-screen buttons on my GS3, but each time I was successful it was much less of a reach to hit the menu button.
I am excite for this phone. Seems more and more like a real winner. I don't mind a 2600 mah battery as the GS4 had that same size and was just fine. I was concerned they'd go with 2300-2400, at which point it'd be a deal breaker.
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I disagree on the on screen buttons, but it's an opinion, so there's no point in arguing it.I would LOVE to see a 3000 mah battery, but supposedly 2600 is "confirmed." I personally am skeptic about anything being confirmed until HTC themselves says it.
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I'm hopeful thatvthey might offer the ability to turn off on screen buttons, with hidden capacitive buttons in the large black bar. That would be ideal--the best of both worlds.
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I would LOVE to see this. Or at least some use for that area. As I said earlier, it's not a deal breaker, but the random black bar along with the lack on capacitive buttons won't be appreciated on my end at least. Though I understand one opinion does not change an entire company. Unless I'm the CEO of HTC and I didn't know it.

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I disagree on the on screen buttons, but it's an opinion, so there's no point in arguing it.I would LOVE to see a 3000 mah battery, but supposedly 2600 is "confirmed." I personally am skeptic about anything being confirmed until HTC themselves says it.
I would LOVE to see this. Or at least some use for that area. As I said earlier, it's not a deal breaker, but the random black bar along with the lack on capacitive buttons won't be appreciated on my end at least. Though I understand one opinion does not change an entire company. Unless I'm the CEO of HTC and I didn't know it.
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they put on screen keys as per google's instructions to get on their good side
BUT htc probably kept the digitizer all the way down the black space, soooo.....
htc one 2013 rewind to last may and the logo was turned to a menu button, what do you think is gonna happen this time?
come on people start looking forward, after release most software solvable problems will be dealt with

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I'm hopeful thatvthey might offer the ability to turn off on screen buttons, with hidden capacitive buttons in the large black bar. That would be ideal--the best of both worlds.
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This would be win-tastic. But I could see how they might think of it as a wasted expense... Don't keep your hopes up.
It would be so cool though.
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ipsuvedi said:
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On screen nav keys are very uncomfortable ...you will be confused about where to click...and in android (except Nexus) nav key bar resizes the layout everytime when appearing...this thing is most annoying!!!
So my decision is I wont buy this if it has On Screen nav...good bye
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Oh, I absolutely love the on-screen navbar! It's so much faster and efficient than any capacitive button I've used!

how to take a screen shot?

So whats the quick way to get a screenshot?

Good question, also wanna know it.

Volume down + Power. Feels kind of awkward since I've had HTC phones for 5+ years

bvang89 said:
Volume down + Power. Feels kind of awkward since I've had HTC phones for 5+ years
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Cool thaks. Had to use both hand to press at same time.

pvaldeben said:
Cool thaks. Had to use both hand to press at same time.
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Holding it portrait you can press both at the same time with your one finger
Sent from my LG-H810

If yours came with "Quick note" or whatever is called, that does it easier. I'm not sure if that is an LG app, or a Tmo app though.
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pvaldeben said:
Cool thaks. Had to use both hand to press at same time.
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Two hands? One index fingers just fine! Love how I can use one hand much easier now