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[Q] One-handed use in real life

I have read many reviews on the Note 2 and most say it can’t be easily used with one hand, although there are few that say it can. These reviews do not go into any detail about what kind of activities you can do one handed and which require two hands. For instance; can you scroll through email messages and open them to read with just one hand, but perhaps not easily type a reply? I do understand the size of your hands has a great deal to do with this.
My current phone is an HTC One X, prior to that an iphone 4S, and before that a BB Bold. Moving up in size to the One X prevented me from doing some of the one handed activities I did with my previous 2 phones, but there are many things I still do one handed with the One X. Launch apps, read messages, browse the web, scroll screens, check notifications, etc. The main thing I find myself needing two hands for is typing. I can still send out a very short message one handed, but it’s slow and I usually make a mistake or two. I should point out that I have relatively small hands and a lot of the time I’m using the HTC one handed I have it resting in my palm and I’ll maneuver it up or down slightly to reach the function I want. I know this could cause me to drop the phone, but I haven’t yet and I’m willing to risk it. I’m wondering if the increased size of the Note 2 would eliminate most of the one handed use I currently enjoy on the HTC One X
So, my question is, for those of you that have the Note 2 can you share what some of your experiences have been using it one handed. What kind of activities and functions can you perform on the Note 2 with one hand, what kind of tasks always require two hands?
It’s tough for me to believe you must have two hands on the phone at all times; as some of the reviews have suggested.

I reckon it'll still be the same as the HOX but a bit more fumbling it around. I've played extensively with the original note as my cousin has one and wasn't too much of an issue.
With typing I can use Swiftkey perfectly one handed with my HOX although Swype is useful for one handed operation.
Like you I tend to jiggle the HOX around now and then. With the Note 2 being less wide it shouldn't pose too many problems compared to the original.
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Was tje first tjing i notice when i got my note2, on note1 i sometimes had litle hard witj "A" with my thumb and one hand. But one note2 it feels mutch more easy write all letters on the keyboard..
And i like use my devices witj one hand most of tge time, i dont text like many with 2 hands.
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Well, I imagine that it really depends on how large your hands are. Certainly someone with smaller mits would have a harder time handling the device with one hand than an individual with lager ones. I'd suggest try and get your own hands on one and try it out for yourself, because second hand advice doesn't help too much since hand sizes differ from person to person.

No way note 2 can be use with one hand. For typing one need two hands and so was on my S3 and 4S before so nothing much has changed. One hand use is just a myth. Gone are the days of one handed use. Smart phones are no longer for one handed use. Even iPhone has back button located on top left corner and with one handed use thumb can not reach there comfortable. It is just a myth now and there is no real one handed use on most new smart phones.
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Actually, one-handed use is not a myth.
On the GN2, Samsung added an option in the settings called One-Handed operation. You can have the phone setup to have the keyboard or dial pad on the left or right side of the screen.
Plus, the back button on the iPhone isn't the only way to get out of the program. There's a home button for that too right? And most people can use one hand on the phone to operate it. I've used the Gnexus, Xperia Arc S, Nexus S as well as the EVO 4G with one hand no problem and I have small asian hands
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It seems quite silly to suggest that using a cell phone one handed is a myth. In my original post I asked specifically what kinds of things you could use the Note 2 for with only one hand. It’s clear you can’t do everything one handed, but certainly you can do some things. For instance, you would be able to pick the phone up and unlock it with one hand, right?

kwilkins said:
It seems quite silly to suggest that using a cell phone one handed is a myth. In my original post I asked specifically what kinds of things you could use the Note 2 for with only one hand. It’s clear you can’t do everything one handed, but certainly you can do some things. For instance, you would be able to pick the phone up and unlock it with one hand, right?
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Oh yes you can pick it up and unlock it with one hand, no problem. I have small girly hands though and I really don't handle my Note II onehanded like at all. Mostly because it feels very unstable for me to handle it onehanded, I'm afraid I'll drop it.
I'd say if onehanded use IS important to you, you should look at some other phone, that's my view.
For example, I find it mighty cumbersome to pull down the notification bar and then slide it back up using one hand. I CAN do it, it's a matter of sliding the whole device up and down in my hand, but it certainly feels unsafe and wobbly.
Actually I am sure I will drop this phone at some point, and usually I don't drop my phones ever. With the Note II I really feel it's inevitable.

I just got the note 2 and I still have my one x.
I can do most of my navigating one handed. I can type one handed but for safety I use two hands.
It doesnt feel like too big of a difference to the hox, but if you foubd the one x to be a bit big in the hand, you may not be able to do a lot one handed on note 2.
But honestly, battery life alone is a reason to upgrade. Plus I love usong the s pen lol
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kylec said:
I just got the note 2 and I still have my one x.
I can do most of my navigating one handed. I can type one handed but for safety I use two hands.
It doesnt feel like too big of a difference to the hox, but if you foubd the one x to be a bit big in the hand, you may not be able to do a lot one handed on note 2.
But honestly, battery life alone is a reason to upgrade. Plus I love usong the s pen lol
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I found it the same as you did it's not that much bigger compared to the HOX when I had a play with it.
As you have both how do you find the Gn2 screen compared to the HOX? For example on websites, general brightness and sharpness of text. I know how AMOLED displays are but generally speaking.
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nikzDHD said:
I found it the same as you did it's not that much bigger compared to the HOX when I had a play with it.
As you have both how do you find the Gn2 screen compared to the HOX? For example on websites, general brightness and sharpness of text. I know how AMOLED displays are but generally speaking.
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The HOX screen is crisper and brighter, but the gn2 screen does really well for an amoled. I find that the difference is only really noticeable when you zoom in on text in the browser for example.
The screen brightness is pretty good on the gn2, havent had any issues so far but I will see today now that the sun is out. Yesterday was a bit cloudy so I couldnt test outdoor screen visibility.
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I use my note 2 with one hand it depends on ur hand size
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Oh bull..ive use ever phone ive owned one handed...but then again ive only got one hand...really your talking if you can hold in one hand and drive/type with same hand thumb..that is dictated by hand size vs phone size ....nothing more..
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I could use my old note and a friend's "Galaxy Note 2" one-handed, but it never felt secure.

....so umm, what's your hand doing? :angel:

I drive and txt on my note 2 with one hand! With ease, Then again I don't have girl hands lol
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I can pretty much do everything with the gn2 one handed except type. But svoice and google voice typing seem to be pretty accurate in recognizing my words so I techically dont have to use my fingers to type. Just hit the send key. Fyi I posted this using google voice typing.
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I don't have particularly big hands. But, I can manage to use the GN2 with one hand on majority of my day-to-day usage of the phone but with some modified gestures, eg. swipe down to bring the notification bar, double-tap to bring apps drawer, and with the already built-in Öne handed Operation mode typying is made easier with the Samsung 'swype-like' keyboard.
But as some of the other posters pointed out already, it really depends on the size of your hand.

First time I saw a 60 year old guy with the Note 2 on the tube today he was using the stylus to play solitaire didn't look that big at all. Usually you'd see the size and be shocked I was quite in awe actually. Looked really good!
I'm comfortable using the HOX one handed, hmm tempted to order off Amazon and give it a test run.
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finalhit said:
....so umm, what's your hand doing? :angel:
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Edited for clarity:laugh:

what DONT you like about the note 2?

Well, I'm coming from the note 1 and the difference is like night and day! Aside from the beastly specs, the feel is just so incredible! ! But this isnt a thread about all the things you love about the phone, it's about what you don't. I'll start.
PLEASE DONT MENTION MULTIWINDOW. I'M PISSED OFF TO.
Not a fan of the amount of time it takes to turn on when you press the power button, meaning wake up time...
I'M OUT!!

My biggest issue with the Note 2 is that it keeps me from doing real work or wanting to see my family or shave or take a bath or sleep. I should be sleeping now but guess what i am doing, tweaking the layout, testing apps that never really worked on older phones. Aahhhhhhh, see my frustration?

eccoodamo said:
My biggest issue with the Note 2 is that it keeps me from doing real work or wanting to see my family or shave or take a bath or sleep. I should be sleeping now but guess what i am doing, tweaking the layout, testing apps that never really worked on older phones. Aahhhhhhh, see my frustration?
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Which apps do you mean if you dont mind my asking?

lol interesting thread - i've had my note for a total of 2.5 hours so far (side by side with my S3) and i've got to say (having used the original note) the overall feel is nice, very rounded, a bit slippery perhaps (nothing a skin cant fix)
the pen still feels lighter than i'd like and the button is a bit more recessed than i'd like
the home button is awesome and much more responsive than my stock s3
a similar complaint to my s3 but when grabbing the device from the bottom edge, i have a tendency to tap the menu / back buttons on accident, a bit annoying when not using a case
the glass is nice, the feel of the pen on the screen is much more controlled than the original
nfc, yay! google wallet downloaded, would message ' not compatible' on open and shut itself down... boo..
the volume and home button have a nice confident click and feel compared to the s3 and original note...
i posted my grey'd positive comments in your other thread...

teshgnex said:
lol interesting thread - i've had my note for a total of 2.5 hours so far (side by side with my S3) and i've got to say (having used the original note) the overall feel is nice, very rounded, a bit slippery perhaps (nothing a skin cant fix)
the pen still feels lighter than i'd like and the button is a bit more recessed than i'd like
the home button is awesome and much more responsive than my stock s3
a similar complaint to my s3 but when grabbing the device from the bottom edge, i have a tendency to tap the menu / back buttons on accident, a bit annoying when not using a case
the glass is nice, the feel of the pen on the screen is much more controlled than the original
nfc, yay! google wallet downloaded, would message ' not compatible' on open and shut itself down... boo..
the volume and home button have a nice confident click and feel compared to the s3 and original note...
i posted my grey'd positive comments in your other thread...
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Man... youre right about the home and volume buttons... i forgot

Google Wallet not working.
Lack of multi windows.
The pen feels a bit cheap still (loved the feel of the Palm Tungsten metal ones that were telescopic). Though fixable as I think I'll get a dual use pen/pointer to keep in pocket/briefcase, I'm a fairly large bloke too, so having that larger pen will help too, this current one isn't really of a decent size/thickness/weight to use for long periods of time, I think my hand would 'claw' up.
Lack of cases for a while (the official 'flap' one is good, got it at last but was making me twitchy not having it protected. Wish there was a good/cheap pouch type case to slide it in for extra protection). And/or the 'flap' phone case, the front of it, the actual flap, is wonderful to touch, but the back is the same uber slippery plastic that the default one is. Can NFC not be done through a very slightly thicker case with a built in rubberised coasting, as the Nexus7 has? This thing is still very, very slick, and I can see with slightly sweaty hands, I'll need to be extra careful.
The built in Samsung Keyboard (that is SO incredibly good with the Swype/cool T9 like swype functionalty/left/right handed), but doesn't scale to other resolutions if you tweak the lcd dpi. REALLY a great keyboard, please make it scale! No, best keyboard I've ever used, and it's keeping me from tweaking the dpi.
The knowledge that when I do inevitably flash CM on this, I'll probably end up losing TMobile wifi calling, that for me, is working wonderfully.
Touch wiz is mildly... odd. But not as bad as seen before, JB's ability to disable things is really helping. But what annoys me somewhat is the different functionality for no other reason than to do it different it appears, and needing a few extra apps (like the photo editor) downloaded when built in apps rely on it.
Oh, no 32mb NII's in TMobile, and so much of the 16GB filled with Bloatware (steady Cyanogenmod, steady... your day will come).
So, all pretty minor (hopefully constructive) criticisms. Overall, still mad impressed with this phone. All phones should have the option to have it work with a stylus as well integrated as this.
If I had the chance to order things to be fixed;
Wifi Calling for Tmobile as an installable app so I'd be less twitchy about flashing with other roms.
Rubberised back.

My personal gripe, is about how much my GN2 looks and feels like an iPhone. In everyway, from the straight lines, to the rounded corners, and don't get me started with the app drawer. The smoothness of page transitions, Google Now.
OK.. I was just kidding guys! LOL.
My real gripes -
1 the on/off button on the exact opposite side of the device as the volume rocker. They should have put it up on top.
2 No dedicated camera button.
3 I always loved scrollable wallpaper, which I feel I shouldn't need to root, and re-rom for it.
4 No auto spell correct from the stock Samsung keyboard.
5 Oh yeah, NO [email protected]#$KING MULTI-SCREEN. - sorry, had to get that one in.
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you made my morning hahahahahaha.
eccoodamo said:
My biggest issue with the Note 2 is that it keeps me from doing real work or wanting to see my family or shave or take a bath or sleep. I should be sleeping now but guess what i am doing, tweaking the layout, testing apps that never really worked on older phones. Aahhhhhhh, see my frustration?
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i'm going to sleep now.

lawalty said:
My personal gripe, is about how much my GN2 looks and feels like an iPhone. In everyway, from the straight lines, to the rounded corners, and don't get me started with the app drawer. The smoothness of page transitions, Google Now.
OK.. I was just kidding guys! LOL.
My real gripes -
1 the on/off button on the exact opposite side of the device as the volume rocker. They should have put it up on top.
2 No dedicated camera button.
3 I always loved scrollable wallpaper, which I feel I shouldn't need to root, and re-rom for it.
4 No auto spell correct from the stock Samsung keyboard.
5 Oh yeah, NO [email protected]#$KING MULTI-SCREEN. - sorry, had to get that one in.
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yea i wish the power button was on top too but i rarely use it.
dedicated camera button would've been cool.
having a hard time buying a case/cover, don't want it looking too enormous.
either way loving my note 2'
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The fact that we cant flash n7100 roms lol...its crazy that it so similar to the t889 yet be so polar!!
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The battery life is too good. The phone is too gorgeous.

Only gripe is the call volume being a bit on the low side even when maxed. Speaker is loud enough though.
I'm sure they're apks to tweak it a bit but I'm too busy enjoying the phone so i'll search for a fix later.

Somerhing for me is the screen keeps timing our evn with the option checked to see my eyes... also when it goes out and I press home button it goes home instead of waking up to the app I was on. Everyother phone did not do this. Is this just me or is there a setting?

I came from the S3, and love everything about my Note 2. I can't say one bad thing about it.
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Size once in a while, I'm 5'7 so I guess that means I have smaller hands? For the most part I dont have an issue but some times my hand gets fatigued from using it too much...Not complaining but sometimes I wish they kept the 5.3 and made it narrower it'd be perfect for me.

I don't like that we can't use our S-Pen on our soft keys. It would be great to be able to hit the menu and back buttons with the pen and have them respond.

i dont like the physical home button,but not enough to keep me from buying it, i think next year it will be all cap.buttons.oh well i'll get it when its available

What do you guys mean when u say no multi windows ? I have a gs3 and really weighing if is worth getting the note 2 or sticking with the gs3 or the nexus 4 but thats another story
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mottyengel said:
Well, I'm coming from the note 1 and the difference is like night and day! Aside from the beastly specs, the feel is just so incredible! ! But this isnt a thread about all the things you love about the phone, it's about what you don't. I'll start.
PLEASE DONT MENTION MULTIWINDOW. I'M PISSED OFF TO.
Not a fan of the amount of time it takes to turn on when you press the power button, meaning wake up time...
I'M OUT!!
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YeAH I WENT TO THE TMOBILE store and the three display devices all have the same issue as well..

I have to say, and I'm a phone whore to the extreme, this is the damndest near perfect phone I've ever owned. I have no complaints yet
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Where is the screenshot button?

I know there's the s-pen and the hardware buttons, however, I remember on the 10.1 note original there was a screen capture icon on the dock. Is there a way to get this feature back?.

Put your hand sideways (littlefinger resting at it) on the screen and slide right to left
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valexi said:
Put your hand sideways (littlefinger resting at it) on the screen and slide right to left
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Is there another way, its a bit hit and miss though more miss really to be practical.

Hold the power button down while also holding the raised home button. It will take a screen shot for you.

Its actually easier than you think! You have to use your whole Handheld edge resting on the screen.
When you get it, it is easier and faster than any other method.
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valexi said:
Its actually easier than you think! You have to use your whole Handheld edge resting on the screen.
When you get it, it is easier and faster than any other method.
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Thanks but with my case its not possible, really frustrating.
Tempted to sell and get the old 10.1 now.

rirawin said:
Thanks but with my case its not possible, really frustrating.
Tempted to sell and get the old 10.1 now.
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Just becaues of the palm screenshot thing? there are many ways to take screenshots you know. There are even apps for that and the S-Pen or power+home button methods work just fine.

rirawin said:
Thanks but with my case its not possible, really frustrating.
Tempted to sell and get the old 10.1 now.
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Yes that makes sense, downgrade your tablet where getting a new case would be an easier option. Best you get an ipad for ease of use I think :silly:

clouds5 said:
Just becaues of the palm screenshot thing? there are many ways to take screenshots you know. There are even apps for that and the S-Pen or power+home button methods work just fine.
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I'm just lazy but found out holding the button on the s-pen on the screen does the same thing.
BTW did the 2014 note come with different nibs as well, as mine didn't?.
Thanks guys

rirawin said:
I'm just lazy but found out holding the button on the s-pen on the screen does the same thing.
BTW did the 2014 note come with different nibs as well, as mine didn't?.
Thanks guys
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There were replacement nibs in the box with mine, but not different.

Any LG Flex Users got to a M8?

I have a LG Flex and like it a lot. Thinking on maybe getting the M8 and wondering if any Flex users have done the switch. What do you miss about the Flex and or if you regret it at all. Also how is the M8 battery compared to the Flex. The Flex battery life is what I like most about it. It's nice that I don't have to worry about charging my Flex untill I go to bed. I was going to try a Z2 but Sony is screwing up the release. I like what LG is doing and might get the G3 but kind of what a change since I had the G2 and Flex. Darm can't edit my title. lol

My roommate has the G Flex and the biggest change is the voice quality besides the 1080p screen. The voice quality (and sound in general) on the G Flex is mediocre at best.
When it comes to battery, they are both pretty comparable. The M8 has a more efficient processor and a faster user interface. My roommate is jealous of my M8 and would get one if the screen size matched (he's older and has a difficult time reading smaller text)
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sweets55 said:
I have a LG Flex and like it a lot. Thinking on maybe getting the M8 and wondering if any Flex users have done the switch. What do you miss about the Flex and or if you regret it at all. Also how is the M8 battery compared to the Flex. The Flex battery life is what I like most about it. It's nice that I don't have to worry about charging my Flex untill I go to bed. I was going to try a Z2 but Sony is screwing up the release. I like what LG is doing and might get the G3 but kind of what a change since I had the G2 and Flex. Darm can't edit my title. lol
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I owned the G2 as well. Honestly, i had no complaints other than the build quality. I just purchased the HTC One a couple days ago simply for a change of pace...... and I'm not disappointed. Other than the practically bezel-less display of the G2, the HTC One is perfect.
Some may argue that the camera is inferior than that of the G2's, It more then gets the job done. Fact is, it's a great device inside and out with build quality second to none.
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Chance Ill said:
I owned the G2 as well. Honestly, i had no complaints other than the build quality. I just purchased the HTC One a couple days ago simply for a change of pace...... and I'm not disappointed. Other than the practically bezel-less display of the G2, the HTC One is perfect.
Some may argue that the camera is inferior than that of the G2's, It more then gets the job done. Fact is, it's a great device inside and out with build quality second to none.
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Yea at times I miss my G2 and it's development plus the size. If I got the M8 I would have to carry the phone naked since a case would defeat the feel of the phone. That's kind of risky after a some pbr's though. lol

sweets55 said:
Yea at times I miss my G2 and it's development plus the size. If I got the M8 I would have to carry the phone naked since a case would defeat the feel of the phone. That's kind of risky after a some pbr's though. lol
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Considering T-Mobile's HTC One is compatible with both AT&T's and the International version, development is plentiful and will continue to grow. I also can't bring myself to put a case on this device, but I am mindful that just one drop will ruin the entire experience of owning such a well designed device. For that reason alone, I hold it with both hands when in use. Lol

Hey sweets55, just picked up a m8 yesterday, so far I'm loving it.
I can't say for sure, but from my usage on the phone, the batteries of the flex and m8 are not comparable so far. I do like the screen size better. The one thing that made the flex superior to the m8 was the option to change the button layout on the navigation bar.
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I came from Nexus and I absolutely love both phones. I like the m8 just a tad bit more. Camera is good but I feel can be better. I really feel HTC made the best phone to date. It's just over all balanced, well crafted and the software both sense and GPE is buttery smooth. I favor GPE much more
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Coming from the TMO G2, I have to say that I love this device. Build quality is truly mazing and the way it just feels in your hand just screams flagship. The battery is lasting me the same as the G2 doing exactly the same things. Picture quality honestly is really good for me( I am not the one to be taking pictures all day long). The M8's display seems a little bit sharper to me.
the things I miss from the G2 are the pop up windows for mms and calls. I also miss the stock UI's customization.
Over all I am extremely happy that I gave HTC another chance. I have had the M8 exactly one week today and it is THE ONLY PHONE I HAVE not ROOTED out of the box.

Thinking of getting one as well, but really love the pop window for mms as well. That and just can't see the m8 battery holding up like the Flex. I do feel that I want a better screen and size is becoming an issue.
Might just hold out for a G3. Really digging LG's software.
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JesseMT4G said:
Thinking of getting one as well, but really love the pop window for mms as well. That and just can't see the m8 battery holding up like the Flex. I do feel that I want a better screen and size is becoming an issue.
Might just hold out for a G3. Really digging LG's software.
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I had my Flex sold for 20 more then what my asking price but got cold feet and couldn't pull the trigger on the M8. I just prefer a bigger phone then the M8. Going to wait for the G3 and or Z2 as well.
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sweets55 said:
I had my Flex sold for 20 more then what my asking price but got cold feet and couldn't pull the trigger on the M8. I just prefer a bigger phone then M8. Going to wsit for the G3 and or Z2 as well.
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I have been rocking monster phones for awhile now. Dell Streak, Note 2 and now this. Sometimes I miss the smaller size for pocketbility and just doing general things. It's hard to use one hand with this device, even moving the navigation buttons.
Besides that and the older screen technology, it's an awesome phone!
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JesseMT4G said:
I have been rocking monster phones for awhile now. Dell Streak, Note 2 and now this. Sometimes I miss the smaller size for pocketbility and just doing general things. It's hard to use one hand with this device, even moving the navigation buttons.
Besides that and the older screen technology, it's an awesome phone!
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The Flex doesn't seem as big as other phones like the Note 2. I'm thinking the G3 will be the perfect size.
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The flex is a horrible phone. Over priced.
I owned it one day before marching it back. It had major ghosting issues, and is way too big. The curve is cool, and some of the software on it. I have a M8 now. My next purchase will b the LG og pro 2. Now that phone looks dope. Hoping someone in the states will get it.
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LoL...^ I got $200 off my Flex and 6 months free of Netflix so I got a great deal on my Flex. I don't see how anyone can give a honest opinion on any phone after only 1 day using it. Just saying...No ghosting issues here but I keep my brightness always maxed and screen set to vivid. I can still make it 24hrs on one charge with heavy use. Never been able to do that before and my phone history is way to long to list. Lol. I have big hands so that might be why the Flex doesn't seem to big and the M8 feels small. Also I had the M7 and maybe the M8 isn't enough of a change for me. I like the Flex because it's different. It's kind of funny when people ask if I bent my phone.
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Its extremely easy to judge a phone with a screen as bad as the Flex has in a single day. It hurt my eyes right off the bat. I don't know how my roommate tolerates it at all. Then again he rarely looks at it, he's not a power user like me. That and the horrendous voice quality was enough to seal my hatred for it on day 1
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I disagree. Horrendous Flex voice quality and hurting your eyes those are new ones. LoL. You need at least 3 full days to a week to review any phone. Imo. It's funny how some people rush to judgement and don't give the phone a chance. I've read Flex reviews and they mention nothing about the battery life. That right there tells me they didn't use the phone for a day. The Flex battery life is one of best out today and the 720p screen helps that. I would rather have 720p screen with a large screen + power all time then a 1080p smaller screen and having to charge. If you set a 720p screen next to 1080p screen most peoole wouldn't know the difference. Heck I can't even tell that much and I'm picky as hell (most on here are). Some people are just spec happy. Like some people don't like that the M8 only has a 4mp camera and or the quality of pictures.
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I agree with Sweet. It's hard to judge a phone after a couple days. It took me a good week to be content. You get used to the screen. Yeah it is 720 and not 1080, however it's not as bad as some people make it out to be. Some people just have to have the latest and greatest.
I can't agree on the size though. This is a huge phone. Much bigger than the N2. The Curve is a niche thing and hardly notice it anymore. It's cool at 1st, but quickly goes away.
What saves this phone, is its amazing battery life. I can stream Netflix a few hours a day and or teather it to my N7 and still get 15 hours off it with close to 7 hours on-screen time. That's incredible to me and haven't run across a phone that can compete.
Also standby time is unbelievable! 1% in 8 hours is like... WOW
Its just the size for me. Can careless IMO about the phone being spec'd out to the max.
Also call quality has been the best of any phone I have had. Not sure where people are having that issue.
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How the hell can you give an honest opinion about a phone after only one day of use? I bought the Flex for two reasons. The first reason was the battery, I had a nexus 4 prior to getting the flex and the battery was horrendous. The second reason I bought the flex was because of the large screen and 6 months of Netflix that came with it.
Sure, the flex has its flaws, but what phone doesn't? I'll admit that at first I hated the flex because of two reasons. The first being the button layout for the volume and power buttons, that took a little time to get used to, but it eventually grew on me. Another reason that I didn't like the flex was because it was on 4.2 and T-Mobile is taking there sweet time to release it.
Saying a 720p screen hurts your eyes is a little much, don't you think so? I guess it was impossible for you to use a cellphone until the oppo find 5 came out (I think that it was the first phone to have a 1080p screen). Yeah it's extremely easy to judge the flex (or any phone for that matter) from one day of use. I swear, just about everyone is a spec whore. Bad voice quality? I think that the voice quality was a plus for a flex, it wasn't perfect, but it was better than the voice quality on most of the phones I've owned.
I've owned my m8 for a couple of days now and it definitely has its flaws, but instead of bashing it after only owning it for a couple days, I'm going to use it for a couple of weeks and give an HONEST opinion. But one thing that I can say for sure is that the navigation bar button layout just sucks, I've given it a chance on other phones, but I just hate not having a designated menu button.
@sweets55 I know, every time I pulled my flex out, people would ask me if I bent my phone or if I bought it that way lol.
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Yea I didn't care for the M8 nav bar as well. I like my back button on the right. I use G2 Xposed to shrink the nav bar on my Flex. Not sure if you can do that with the M8. On screen nav bars take up screen space. I kind of miss Samsung phones since they don't take up screen space and a physical home button. I might get the G3 and then Note 4. LoL
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Yea I didn't care for the M8 nav bar as well. I like my back button on the right. I use G2 Xposed to shrink the nav bar on my Flex. Not sure if you can do that with the M8. On screen nav bars take up screen space. I kind of miss Samsung phones since they don't take up screen space and a physical home button. I might get the G3 and then Note 4. LoL
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The one thing I think Samsung did best was the layout of the buttons on the phone (menu, home and back). You can shrink the nav bar on the m8 with Xposed, but it gives you a huge back button (unless the height of the nav bar is changed to 40 and below). The S3 was my last Samsung phone and i'm not going back. Too many pointless features and way too much bloat. I really wish that HTC would add the option to change the buttons on the nav bar or let the users choose a certain button layout like LG did with their phones.

Anyone else returning it or thinking about it?

Using a OP3, barely an improvement to me. I find myself more annoyed you cant just enter phone with fingerprint on front or at least tap to wake. Performance wise minimal difference. I'm underwhelmed. I'm giving it one more day but most likely returning. Anyone else feeling similar?

I came from a OnePlus 3 myself and though I do prefer the front fingerprint sensor, the Pixel XL beats it on everything else IMO. My SoT on my PXL destroys what my OP3 was giving me, the camera is on another level, I do feel a difference in smoothness (not necessarily performance, but just general smoothness) and the screen is significantly better too (I plan on using VR, so a QHD screen is sort of necessary).
Now, the Pixel literally cost me twice what I paid for my OP3 ($600 vs $1200 - tax included in CAD$). Is it really worth it? No. Not at all. But as a tech head who switches phones every 6 months, I don't mind spending extra money on a device I use literally every day, constantly. Especially knowing I can sell it 6-12 months later and get the majority of my money back (I always keep my phones in mint condition).
When all is said and done, I'm very happy with my Pixel. Is it overpriced? Yes, but so are all the other main stream flagships. I'm not going to complain about price - which seems to everyone's gripe about this phone (that and waterproofing.. god people need to get over that). At the end of the day, if you're not fully satisfied with your purchase, just return it. I plan on keeping mine.

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Using a OP3, barely an improvement to me. I find myself more annoyed you cant just enter phone with fingerprint on front or at least tap to wake. Performance wise minimal difference. I'm underwhelmed. I'm giving it one more day but most likely returning. Anyone else feeling similar?
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I am similarly annoyed with no ability to wake the screen without picking the device up.... how in the world double tap to wake isn't an option when they put the fingerprint reader on the back is beyond me.
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I am similarly annoyed with no ability to wake the screen without picking the device up.... how in the world double tap to wake isn't an option when they put the fingerprint reader on the back is beyond me
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It definitely should've been a stock option, but that'll be a feature in almost every ROM made for the phone, so not a huge concern TBH.

DanJRWalsh said:
It definitely should've been a stock option, but that'll be a feature in almost every ROM made for the phone, so not a huge concern TBH.
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I can't and honestly don't care to flash roms. I can however walk into a version store and say no thanks. Keep it.
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It definitely should've been a stock option, but that'll be a feature in almost every ROM made for the phone, so not a huge concern TBH.
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Myself, I was looking forward to stock without the need for flashing anything but not this time with the pixel.

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I can't and honestly don't care to flash roms. I can however walk into a version store and say no thanks. Keep it.
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Well, as I stated to the OP, "if you're not fully satisfied with your purchase, just return it."
Personally, returning a device simply because it doesn't support Tap to Wake seems a bit overkill. But, if there's other things about the device that urks you, then I don't see why you should keep it. I'm very happy with my purchase.

I read somewhere they are adding double tap to wake in the future. I agree, it needs it BADLY lol. I am satisfied with my purchase. I don't mind the waterproffing, as the Note 7 didn't hold up under 6 inches of water for me anyway. And as for the price? I've paid 800+ for every phone I had the past few years (minus the 6P) so that's a non issue

DanJRWalsh said:
Well, as I stated to the OP, "if you're not fully satisfied with your purchase, just return it."
Personally, returning a device simply because it doesn't support Tap to Wake seems a bit overkill. But, if there's other things about the device that urks you, then I don't see why you should keep it. I'm very happy with my purchase.
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I have a $1000 device that has a back side fingerprint reader and absolutely no way to wake it/unlock it using anything on the front/top side of the phone. I am forced to do an awkward pinch to squeeze power button followed by entering a code to unlock or pick up the phone. It's hard to understand how this scenario ever passed their ID department. To me this is a device failure. You see it as a small issue. I see it as me having to pick up my damn phone every time I want to wake it for the next two years because Google made poor ID decisions.
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I'm sending mine back because the screen has a line going down the middle. I'm not doing an RMA because I have the 32gb and that's not going to cut it. 128 is a month wait... Buying a 6p on eBay and saving $700.

Tap to wake is apparently coming "very soon" http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/10/double-tap-wake-arriving-pixel-phones-soon.html

I'm seriously thinking about it. It's.not because of anything really on my Pixel XL, It's more how AMAZING my Moto Z Force Droid is. I don't know through I keep going g back and forth. Moto has me so disgusted with there marketing plan or lack of one, there horrible customer service, and there nightmare logistics , I wanted to get free from them, But waterproof shatterproof and almost barebones Android make it really nice phone
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Tap to wake is apparently coming "very soon" http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/10/double-tap-wake-arriving-pixel-phones-soon.html
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I had read this too in a si.ilar report. I would like to point out that there is a side power button...it wakes the screen without picking it up....

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I had read this too in a si.ilar report. I would like to point out that there is a side power button...it wakes the screen without picking it up....
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Isnt tap to wake different than ambient display? 6p has ambient display that worked out the box and the new update to 7.1.1 even has a setting for it to show notifications under "Moves". nexus 6 did the same thing, I.E. it had a working ambient display function. My understanding is that tap to wake actually turns on the phone in lieu of power button or similar....it has nothing to do with notification display

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I had read this too in a si.ilar report. I would like to point out that there is a side power button...it wakes the screen without picking it up....
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Completely different. Not equivalent. Not acceptable. The phone is so thin you are basically having to pick it up from the table at least a little bit to press the power button. Then if you are like lots of professionals we have an admin security policy because of corporate email security that requires you to unlock it with a 5 digit code or fingerprint. So to actually do anything we have to pick it up. Even with tap to wake this is an issue. This single issue is annoying me multiple times daily and might be the nail in the coffin. At least with my. NOTE 7 I could reach over with one finger press the home button while it simultaneously read my finger and be at an unlocked home screen with no more than a single finger press.
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The phone is fine - I knew what I was getting before i purchased it.
I prefer the reader on the back. I have it set to not lock when is at home or in the car so i don't have to pick it up, just press the side button.

P.S. from back in the day this was all the rage:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/24/how-to-enable-double-tap-to-wake-on-your-rooted-nexus-6/

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Completely different. Not equivalent. Not acceptable. The phone is so thin you are basically having to pick it up from the table at least a little bit to press the power button. Then if you are like lots of professionals we have an admin security policy because of corporate email security that requires you to unlock it with a 5 digit code or fingerprint. So to actually do anything we have to pick it up. Even with tap to wake this is an issue. This single issue is annoying me multiple times daily and might be the nail in the coffin. At least with my. NOTE 7 I could reach over with one finger press the home button while it simultaneously read my finger and be at an unlocked home screen with no more than a single finger press.
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You kinda knew the layout of the device before buying it right? The missing front fingerprint scanner at least is what I'm referring to. You should definitely just return it though. You're pretty upset and there is no way they can make you happy at this point.

jal3223 said:
You kinda knew the layout of the device before buying it right? The missing front fingerprint scanner at least is what I'm referring to. You should definitely just return it though. You're pretty upset and there is no way they can make you happy at this point.
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Unfortunately I understand the layout and the basic requirement for the need for the ability to unlock the phone without picking it up better than Google did... apparently....im hanging on to it until the return period is up to see what else is out there. I may have to return it and find some junk phone to use until another decent size decent phone comes out.
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Unfortunately I understand the layout and the basic requirement for the need for the ability to unlock the phone without picking it up better than Google did... apparently....im hanging on to it until the return period is up to see what else is out there. I may have to return it and find some junk phone to use until another decent size decent phone comes out.
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Yeah, unfortunately it's about the best we have hardware wise on android at the moment. The Moto G4 plus seems to be a lower spec phone that has a front fingerprint scanner. Honestly, it looks like a great value for it if you don't mind the 1080p display. I personally don't mind it. Plus the software is pretty close to stock. I believe the screen size is the exact same as well.