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Is it just me or is this phone just too big?

My previous phone was a nexus s. The usb port died and Samsung said it would take 6 to 8 weeks to get it back repaired.
I went to my carrier to see what kind of phone I could get cheap and in the end I got an iphone 4s thinking I could sell it once I got my nexus back and make a little money. After a week with the iphone I was going nuts. Everything seemed to take twice as long to do, going in and out of apps. I guess I got used to real multitasking with ics on my nexus s.
Anyway, I sold the iphone and bought a galaxy nexus off someone for 480 CAD thinking I could sell the nexus s once I got it back. Now I have been using it for about a week now and for some reason it just doesn't feel quite right in my hands. I am still waiting for the case I ordered maybe that will make it feel a little better in the hand but right now it actually feels like my hand is getting tired from holding it. I find myself having to keep changing positions just to use the phone.
I love the massive screen, but I am wondering if this trend of making phones bigger and bigger is not the best idea or will I end up adjusting to it? I know when I was looking something up on my friends iphone today I kept thinking, Holy crap this thing is way too small.
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I adjusted to it rather easily. Granted there are times when you realize that the phone is big, sometimes I find that it 'rests' on my pinky finger while I am holding it and making acrobatics to hit the top row or notification bar with my thumb, but once I used it for a while, I fell in love with the size.
You don't interact with your phone frequently, the most frequent activities that you are doing - like texting or answering calls - is still very easy despite the screen size. Other activities, like games and video content, is much better on that screen. And browsing benefits immensely.
So I think it's the right call. It's not the ideal size, I would not mind if it was slightly smaller, but I'm finding it difficult to use anything that's as small as my previous phone these days (I used HTC Desire).

Buying a case will only make it alittle bit bigger from my experience ...my hands are large...I love my phone...though a gel case will help from slipping from the rubber grip I suppose..
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At first I thought it would be too big, but after using it a little bit it felt perfect.
Sometimes I cant hit buttons on the other side of the screen when using one hand, but that isn't too often.
Other phones are too small for me now.
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I didn't want to upgrade my NS when they announced GN because I think it's too big for a phone.
Last week I played with the live unit on a shop..and walked away with GN in my pocket, you'll get used to it. It's better for browsing and reading as you have additional screen estate.
There are of course times when you need to do "aerobatic thumbing" but you'll get over it eventually ^_^

Yeah, the G Nex is a bit too wide. Width-wise, I think the Rezound is perfect imo. Too bad it's too thick and runs Sense.

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Yeah, the G Nex is a bit too wide. Width-wise, I think the Rezound is perfect imo. Too bad it's too thick and runs Sense.
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at least its not as wide as the galaxy s ii. That thing is ridiculous.....
I personally think the width of the nexus is perfect. I thought the phone was actually a little too light and nearly flew out of my hand several times. That changed once I got the extended battery.
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Not as wide as the SGS2? It's at least as wide, if not wider, side by side.. I had one before this and the Nexus is bigger than SGS2.
As for Nexus, it's very big, but just about acceptable to me lol. Feels better in hand than SGS2 though

I came from a Thunderbolt so it wasn't a huge adjustment for me. I personally thought the size of Thunderbolt was great after being on Nexus One before that. Now with this phone, I feel THIS is now the perfect size
To each his/her own I guess.

To answer your thread title, it's just you

When I got my HD2 I came from a HTC Diamond, a very petite phone. I thought the HD2 was huge but I soon adjusted to it. Then after porting Android to it before flashing to NAND was 'the thing' I got a Desire, love, love, love that phone. I swapped it for a Desire HD when they were released and I realized the bulk of a 4.2" phone was a bit over the top, hated the DHD, sold it and kept the Desire for about 22 months.
I bought the Nexus Prime 3 weeks or so ago, and I am wondering now, if 4.65" is too small!

My Galaxy Nexus is small for me. Because I had been using an iPad as a temporary phone (Not that I make/receive calls anyway)when my HD2 was broken..

When i went from the Sensation to the G.Nexus the Nexus did feel a bit big in my hand as you say. To start with it tired my hand a bit too, you'll get used to it though, if you have big hands that is

The bigness is far less of a problem than the slipperyness!
This phone is very, very slippery. I have almost dropped it SEVERAL times. I am waiting on an Incipio Feather case to prevent this--my Nexus S was also very slippery, but being smaller was easier to hold onto. This phone is large enough that the combination of size and slipperiness makes it very hard to hold onto with one hand.
My hands aren't tiny, but they aren't large either. They're a bit larger than other women I know, but not near the big ol' paws a lot of my guy friends have. They have a lot easier time holding my phone, but they still tell me it's slippery and hard to hold onto.
The Feather doesn't really add much in the way of protection, but it doesn't add hardly any bulk at all and gives a much grippier surface to more easily hold the device.
Edit: This would be an even bigger problem if I didn't use ADW.Launcher EX. With my swipe-down gesture set to open the notification shade, having to contort my hand to reach across the 4.65" display is far less common.

Man i miss swipe down for notifications... I do love the ICS launcher though...so ill stick with it a little while longer.....
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Is this long enough? can i switch now?

The phone feels a lot better in hand with the extended batter cover. It feels very weird with the standard battery cover.
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Coming from an iPhone 4, it was a tad awkward at first, however I got used to it fairly quickly. Sometimes have to jiggle the phone a little in my hand in order to get my thumb to the power button but I've gotten used to doing that. Feels natural to hold now and my case for the phone has excellent grip on it.

The only time I think to myself that it's too big is when I have to hit the back button at the top-left of an app (which is rarely, fortunately). I have small hands and reaching that spot is a real pain

I'm 14 with normal size hands for my age and I think its the perfect size, kinda wish it was bigger

It's just right.
By the way, there is a Galaxy Nexus Q&A forum for questions like this. To your defense, most of the topics in the general forum are questions even though posters rarely choose to use question marks or ask the question in the title.

what do you LOVE about the note 2?

Im coming from the note 1, this is light years ahead, obviously. What do you love about it? I'll start:
Love the fact that they made it narrower, fits so much better in the hand now.
Love the new resolution where all tv shows for perfectly.
Love the feel of the glass! Against my fingers and my face. When I make a call, I want to keep it pressed against my cheek forever and ever!
Love the new pen with Air view, the feel of the pen is greatly improved too.
Like the physical home button.
Like how when you take out the pen during a call, it automatically opens memo.
Love the pop up features...
Id write more but my batteries gonna die.
YOU KNOW I'M KIDDING!! LOVE THE 3, 100 MAH BATTERY! !!

lol interesting thread - i've had my note for a total of 2.5 hours so far (side by side with my S3) and i've got to say (having used the original note) the overall feel is nice, very rounded, a bit slippery perhaps (nothing a skin cant fix)
the pen still feels lighter than i'd like and the button is a bit more recessed than i'd like
the home button is awesome and much more responsive than my stock s3
a similar complaint to my s3 but when grabbing the device from the bottom edge, i have a tendency to tap the menu / back buttons on accident, a bit annoying when not using a case
the glass is nice, the feel of the pen on the screen is much more controlled than the original
nfc, yay! google wallet downloaded, would message ' not compatible' on open and shut itself down... boo..
the volume and home button have a nice confident click and feel compared to the s3 and original note...
i posted my grey'd 'negatives' in your other thread...

I am sure we are happy for you...Thread Closed & Thank You

Note 2 size

I have been using note since the original note cane out and people start mocking it's size. And I had this issue since the note.. I am just wondering whether anyone else feels the same..
When you are watching a movie, playing a game, browsing the Web, or taking notes. Thank god for the more then palm size phone.
When you are on the train standing trying to balance and text or browse or even temple run, when you are taking a picture with one hand or trying to text or make a call while holding groceries or shopping stuff. God the big screen is so damn retarded and hard to manoeuvre.. Take note my palm is quite huge. To use the phone one handed it rest on my fingers for my thumb to reach the end of the screen where q is on the keyboard. And this is always frustrating as I feel as though the phone would drop if anyone bangs into me which happens alot in singapore..
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lqrt said:
I have been using note since the original note cane out and people start mocking it's size. And I had this issue since the note.. I am just wondering whether anyone else feels the same..
When you are watching a movie, playing a game, browsing the Web, or taking notes. Thank god for the more then palm size phone.
When you are on the train standing trying to balance and text or browse or even temple run, when you are taking a picture with one hand or trying to text or make a call while holding groceries or shopping stuff. God the big screen is so damn retarded and hard to manoeuvre.. Take note my palm is quite huge. To use the phone one handed it rest on my fingers for my thumb to reach the end of the screen where q is on the keyboard. And this is always frustrating as I feel as though the phone would drop if anyone bangs into me which happens alot in singapore..
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Never had a problem with the Note 2 size. It really fits very good to me, I'm 6'2" and the phone feels really good to me, but when other people use it I realize how big it is in other peoples hands. Sometimes it makes me chuckle hahaha.

Use it for 2 hours. Each and every other phone would look extremely tiny to you.
As for the mobility never had a problem.
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UtkarshGupta said:
Use it for 2 hours. Each and every other phone would look extremely tiny to you.
As for the mobility never had a problem.
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True story, for example, iPhone 4S and 5, they look so small for me, almost like a cereal box toy. I hardly think I can go back to phones with -5" screens.

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I have small hands and the size is not an issue for me. I need to have a slim case on it to improve the grip but it's fine with that.
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Like many others I do not think about it being large until I pick up my old SGSI or see it in a shop next to other phones. Regarding one handed use I think the problem is caused by pourly designed interfaces than the size of the phone. Developers imo are still stuck in the world of Windows and insist on putting most command icons at the top of the screen when they should all really be at the bottom. This is especially true now that the average phone is 5" It's even a chore to do a lot of browsing with two hands the way things look today. Compare browsing with many tabs on BoatBrowser, with customizable icons on the bottom, to Chrome where everthing is at the top. Tiring!!
One last rant. If you must use it with one hand. Get a good case. Phones are not cheap, nor is insurance.
If you need to type one handed I can warmly recommend "messagease" keyboard which makes writing with the thumb a breeze.

i get greif at work mostly all the time about its size ...BUT ive never had a bad call and when i watch video i can actually see it even if i want to have subtitles
the irony is i remember getting greif when i bought a t28 by erricsson cos it was so small ...times they are a changing!
as a side note ...when i have to borrow the handed down 4s that i gave the wife when i !upgraded! it seems so damn small and almost impossible to use now

There is two kinds of people..
1, people who have a Note 2
2, people who don't have a Note 2 but want a Note 2

Why do you care what other people think? The Galaxy Note 2 is by far, the best handset on the market for my needs. I don't need a tablet anymore, hell; I have a £1350 computer just collecting dust.
Movies, games, music, drawing, browsing the internet etc is significantly better with a larger screen.
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I do not care what others think. I care how I can use my phone more efficiently. By efficient I mean using it without risk of dropping.
I'm outta here. You fan boys who just jumped the bandwagon are too much for me to handle.
Have a nice day
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lqrt said:
I do not care what others think. I care how I can use my phone more efficiently. By efficient I mean using it without risk of dropping.
I'm outta here. You fan boys who just jumped the bandwagon are too much for me to handle.
Have a nice day
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Wtf? Why ask for other people's opinions if you're just going to get angry when they disagree with you? Some people.
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Are u serious? Fan boys? People are giving their opinions. And, by the way, ergonomics are great on Note 2. I'm 6'2'' and it fits me perfectly. Of course I owned a Note 1 before.
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For my one year of using note 1 I have not seen someone with big enough hands to COMFORTABLY use the phone one handed on the train or even walking. Thus, I call you guys fan boys for claiming size of the phone is just nice.
Of course I live in singapore where the average height is 1. 7metres so there may well really be people who can comfortably use the phone in one hand without risk of dropping. But whenever I use mine one handed it would be quite taxing on the heart as it can easily drop, especially when using cases which are smooth to the touch.
I apologise for coming across as being angered but I assure you I am not.
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I always thought it was ridiculously big for a phone but when the Note 1 became on sale and I needed a tablet anyway I thought wth I'll give it a try. Just of a couple of days with it and I can't imagine going back to anything smaller. I use MessagEase for one-handed texting btw. Now I have a Note 2 and it's great although sometimes I'm thinking of switching to an S3. Size has never been an issue for me but sometimes the weight is.

Coming from Dell streak 5, makes me not an early adaptor, I felt that the Note 2 was perfect for my hand, I had to skip the Note 1 bcs I found it not very comfortable in grip and did not look at it was a real upgrade. Note 2 was very different, I remember the first time I hold it and had the wow effect on me. As for the Note 3 I don't know if it will be a real upgrade compare to this device or not, hope they don't go crazy with this screen size wars, but if 3 will have the same size as 2 but with bigger screen and smaller bezel and no physical button I might go for it, as for 8 core, I don't really care much since for what I use the device even 4 core is overkill for me.
Oh I almost forgot, the only thing that might make me switch from Note 2 to 3 is , battery, if they manage to put a 6500 mA for the same thickness they got my money in advance.
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After more than 1yr with note1, now after 5th day of use of n2 i must say it is not good for me. I hate the aspect ratio - screen is bad. N2 is fluid like water and i wish i could replace n2s motherboard into original n1 body.
I use tablet layout on n1 so swype notifications from bottom right corner is not a problem while holding one hand....ability to press back button while holding in left hand....
So i really need to find quick tablet ui for n2 and give it a try as first impressions from stock are negative - only to aspect ratio and too much over saturated screen. and feels blurry to me.
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I much prefer the note 2 body. Slimmer more manoeuvrable although not by much. Tablet UI how about the famous hybrid rom? Cm10 though.
On note 1 the cm10 was much faster then the stock samsung skinned. However on the note 2 with jellybeans stock skinned.. Cm10 seemed slower to me.
On topic, do you guys who are comfortable with the size use the phone naked?
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lqrt said:
On topic, do you guys who are comfortable with the size use the phone naked?
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note1 naked....also looks like that right now...silver finish is worn out.
I have a slim cover for n2 and feels the same as n1 but higher. Without cover it is perfect but i am not sure if i am gonna keep n2. Maybe wait for s4, also xperia z in question only because of ip certification.
Also i feel uncomfortble not having the possibility view s notes from other sources like pc or something. This make spen for notes uselles and have to make notes on catch or evernote.
So spen nice feature but personally stopped using it much. So then s4 is smaller and 0,5 inches diff in screen not much.
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lqrt said:
I have been using note since the original note cane out and people start mocking it's size. And I had this issue since the note.. I am just wondering whether anyone else feels the same..
When you are watching a movie, playing a game, browsing the Web, or taking notes. Thank god for the more then palm size phone.
When you are on the train standing trying to balance and text or browse or even temple run, when you are taking a picture with one hand or trying to text or make a call while holding groceries or shopping stuff. God the big screen is so damn retarded and hard to manoeuvre.. Take note my palm is quite huge. To use the phone one handed it rest on my fingers for my thumb to reach the end of the screen where q is on the keyboard. And this is always frustrating as I feel as though the phone would drop if anyone bangs into me which happens alot in singapore..
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i could have wrote that. its so annoying with one hand thats why im going to change to htc one

[Q] Thinking about pulling the trigger

I'm considering picking up a 32GB Black Note 10.1 2014 today using Best Buy's Cyber Monday deal. I currently have an iPad 3 and a Nook HD+ 32GB with CM10.2. Since switching from an iPhone 5 to a Galaxy S4, the iPad 3 pretty much sits on my nightstand and I use the HD+ for everything. For the price, it's a nice device, but it can be frustratingly slow as a daily use device.
I've been hoping for the Nexus 10 2 to be released, but I'm becoming increasingly doubtful that's going to happen anytime soon. That's where the Note 10.1 comes in...it's basically the same display as the Nexus 10 (at least in terms of size and resolution) and has great hardware specs. $500 is a little steep for an Android tablet in my opinion, but I should be able to get $250-350 for my iPad 3 which really knocks down the incremental cost to me.
I'm not a huge fan of Touch Wiz vs. the stock Android experience, but it's not enough to push me away from a device. I am, however, concerned about the reports of lag on what should be one of the fastest devices on the market. I have zero interest in installing a custom ROM on my next tablet as I've already spent too much time dealing with the various quirks of custom ROMs going on previous tablets (Nook Color, Touchpad, and now Nook HD+). I want a rock solid, smooth stock experience. I've seen some folks say that with all the patches applied, the lag is basically gone. It's also worth mentioning that I immediately install Nova Launcher Prime as my launcher, so I wouldn't be using the stock launcher.
Also, I've read that the power port on this thing is on the bottom when in landscape orientation?! How does that work with something like the Poetic Slimline case? I have the Poetic for my HD+ (and the Apple Smart Cover for my iPad) and pretty much keep them standing up while they're plugged in.
Anyway, the owner reviews I've seen everywhere (Amazon, Best Buy, etc.) are quite positive, but I wanted to check in with this community to ask for real-life opinions, the good and the bad, before pulling the trigger.
Thanks!
UPDATE: I just pulled the trigger. I'll pick it up on the way home tonight and post my impressions once I get it set up to my tastes.

I pulled trigger last saturday. Been thinking about ipad air, note 10.1, nexus 10 2 for long long time, and I really really love the note!
I was worried about bloat wares and lag as well as galaxy s4 owner I experience both in gs4. However, I don't have any issue with neither in note 10.1. Yes there r few bloat wares but not as much as gs 4 and most are quiet useful. altho I only used it for 3 days I never had issue with lag or stuttering. Also handwriting recognition speed and accuracy is Just off the chart. In more of type but now I tend to write with Stylus all the time.
my tablet exp include ipad 2/4, nexus 7 2012. But this is best tablet So far.
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I've got the 32GB white version, and let me tell you, this thing flies through everything I throw at it. I have had 3 games open in the background while watching YouTube in multiview along with the S-Note app and browsing the internet and there was no lag. The 8-core processor and 3 gigs of ram destroy everything I throw at. When you first power it up, you'll be hit with 3 updates that will improve stability, performance and also add the Android 4.3 multiuser feature. Trust me, you won't regret getting this tablet, especially with its added S-pen functionality. I no longer have to use paper for anything! I'm using the stock touchwiz launcher, but of course you can install another one. And in landscape mode the power button is at the top. I'm using this case for mine:
http://www.amazon.com/MoKo-Samsung-...qid=1386018274&sr=8-2&keywords=note+2014+case
NOTE: As of now not many games in the play store have been optimized to take advantage of the power of this device. Games run smoothly, just not a full graphics or full resolution on some games. Something to keep in mind if you play a lot of games.

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And in landscape mode the power button is at the top. I'm using this case for mine:
http://www.amazon.com/MoKo-Samsung-...qid=1386018274&sr=8-2&keywords=note+2014+case
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Thanks for the info, both of you. As for my concern, it's the placement of the power charging port that concerns me, not the power button. Since it's on the bottom in landscape orientation, doesn't that preclude having the tablet propped up on a stand like in the main picture for that case and plugged in at the same time?

I am also thinking of buying 32GB Black Note 10.1 2014. To only things which makes me to hesitate is the chrome trim along the edges. Isn't that part so much prone to scratches? Is that plastic or aluminium? Won't the chrome paint peel off as time passes?

nor500 said:
I am also thinking of buying 32GB Black Note 10.1 2014. To only things which makes me to hesitate is the chrome trim along the edges. Isn't that part so much prone to scratches? Is that plastic or aluminium? Won't the chrome paint peel off as time passes?
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The sides are plastic, I would think in a case would be fine, but without a case and tossed around it might damage with hard use. Wished they would have used aluminum like Apple for the price they charge but that shows scratches over time but only dents if dropped like the one my daughter uses

I've had a 32GB version for around 3 weeks and am really pleased with it. Replaced Touchwiz with Apex launcher immediately and have had a couple of launcher crashes but nothing major - considering going to Nova as people speak highly of it.
Lag: it's a totally subjective topic but I don't notice it at all. Certainly nothing that irritates me. Not a big gamer however.
The power socket is on the 'bottom' but either buy an angled USB cable or use the device upside down.
Great advantages are: (1) the handwriting recognition is fantastic - I have reasonably good cursive writing and it rarely makes a mistake (2) multi-window for notes (LectureNotes in my case) and email (Touchdown) or for email and browser (Chrome).
Most of the Samsung bloatware is a waste of space, including the various pop-ups you can invoke with the s-pen. My wife is, however, still mystified about how I keep changing the TV channel without touching the remote (Watchon). Installing a different launcher stops the intensely annoying 'My Magazine' from popping up.
I'd like to remove this Samsung stuff but I'm not going to root until the current rash of firmware updates dries up.Once rooted I can make more apps available in multi-window (very pleased that TD and LN worked straight away)
My one niggle is the position of the home/menu/back buttons ('bottom' centre in landscape mode). On my old Tab 8.9 the soft buttons were bottom left which made them much easier to access with a thumb. I usually hold the Note upside down in landscape mode as having the buttons top centre is easier IMHO. In portrait mode they are under my right thumb which is perfect for me
The Poetic case has all the right cutouts for the Note but the hinge is on the 'bottom' edge not the top. If you want to use it the right way up in landscape mode you will be folding the cover towards you and under rather than over the top and back. If you want to prop the Note at a shallow angle for typing it will be 'upside down' but that's not a problem for me. The reason is presumably to stop the magnetic clasp on the case interfering with the home button. The 'wake on open'/'sleep on close' features of the case work perfectly and no interference with the digitizer so far.
Most annoyed that as a UK user I had to leave the country to buy a 32GB model and that the firmware updates reach us so slowly. Still Samsung's business model is all about encouraging you to dump your phone/tablet for the latest model rather than customer support (as I found out with the Tab 8.9) - buyer beware!

Well, I ended up returning it this morning. Overall it's a really nice piece of hardware, but there were a few things that bothered me about it:
1. This is purely personal, but I think a 10" tablet is bigger than what I'm wanting. Obviously I've had the iPad 3 for a while, but as I said, I've found myself using the Nook HD+ almost exclusively. As a result, the Note 10.1 felt HUGE in my hands for the way I use a tablet! I think I'm going to refine my search to include only 8-9" tablets now.
2. The placement of the hardware buttons was driving me crazy! When I held the device in landscape, it was really awkward to reach down for the buttons when I needed them, and when I held the device in portrait, I was constantly pressing either the Back or Menu buttons depending on how I held it. Additionally, when held in portrait, (intentional!) access to the buttons was even more awkward.
3. My concern about the placement of the USB charging port was legit. I basically have to lay the tablet flat to charge it, and that's pretty much the opposite of what I've always done with my previous tablets which were propped up in their stands/cases while charging.
4. Even after all the updates were applied, some services/apps disabled, and Nova Launcher installed as the default, it still seemed to lag a bit occasionally. In fact, a few times it became completely unresponsive for a number of seconds before I could resume usage. That definitely shouldn't happen on hardware of this caliber.
All in all, I couldn't keep a $500+ purchase with these concerns. I really wanted to because I thought that S Pen and the multi-window stuff was quite neat, but after sleeping on it I just did a factory reset and returned it.
I'll keep looking...in a perfect world I wish the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 hardware was matched to an AOSP ROM. Maybe that's what the Google Nexus 10 2 will be after all, or maybe someone else will fill that particular niche soon.
Thanks again for the info!

The Nexus 10 2 would feel to big too if the samsung did
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Go check out the LG GPad 8.3!
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Well, I ended up returning it this morning. Overall it's a really nice piece of hardware, but there were a few things that bothered me about it:
1. This is purely personal, but I think a 10" tablet is bigger than what I'm wanting. Obviously I've had the iPad 3 for a while, but as I said, I've found myself using the Nook HD+ almost exclusively. As a result, the Note 10.1 felt HUGE in my hands for the way I use a tablet! I think I'm going to refine my search to include only 8-9" tablets now.
2. The placement of the hardware buttons was driving me crazy! When I held the device in landscape, it was really awkward to reach down for the buttons when I needed them, and when I held the device in portrait, I was constantly pressing either the Back or Menu buttons depending on how I held it. Additionally, when held in portrait, (intentional!) access to the buttons was even more awkward.
3. My concern about the placement of the USB charging port was legit. I basically have to lay the tablet flat to charge it, and that's pretty much the opposite of what I've always done with my previous tablets which were propped up in their stands/cases while charging.
4. Even after all the updates were applied, some services/apps disabled, and Nova Launcher installed as the default, it still seemed to lag a bit occasionally. In fact, a few times it became completely unresponsive for a number of seconds before I could resume usage. That definitely shouldn't happen on hardware of this caliber.
All in all, I couldn't keep a $500+ purchase with these concerns. I really wanted to because I thought that S Pen and the multi-window stuff was quite neat, but after sleeping on it I just did a factory reset and returned it.
I'll keep looking...in a perfect world I wish the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 hardware was matched to an AOSP ROM. Maybe that's what the Google Nexus 10 2 will be after all, or maybe someone else will fill that particular niche soon.
Thanks again for the info!
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Also consider samsung galaxy note 8inch
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Also consider samsung galaxy note 8inch
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Or even the Samsung Galaxy Tab 8 if the Note prices are too steep for you. Out of all the Tab models, the 8 is the only one that has > 1GB RAM in it, so it's the only Tab model I would ever consider. I messed with the Tab 8 at Costco -- seemed like a really nice tablet, and I was tempted by the size myself.
I ended up with the Note 10.1 2014 though and very satisfied.

Thanks. Yeah, if the Nexus 10 2 is 10", you're correct that it'll feel too bulky, but the recent rumors are that it may be in the 8-9" range (probably with a designation change as well). As for the Galaxy Note 8, that's a possibility, but I'd prefer something with a higher resolution and slightly larger screen size. The LG looks interesting for sure! I'll check that out.

The LG would be your best bet , but high price to pay compared to say the Nexus 7
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reubenskelly1992 said:
The LG would be your best bet , but high price to pay compared to say the Nexus 7
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Unless you bought it on black Friday from newegg for $279-$30 coupon code which came out to $249
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Capactive or On Screen?

As for me, I sincerely hope the buttons are capacitive. I've never been a fan of on screen buttons for various reasons, not to mention. If they are on screen buttons, what the heck is the big black strip at the bottom for? It holds the HTC Logo, sure, but if that's the only reason, then make more use of it. Put some freaking buttons there. Lol. I absolutely love my HTC One 2013, and I'm more than likely getting the 2014 model (which i really hope is called the One Up as some rumors suggest), but the on-screen buttons kill me.

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As for me, I sincerely hope the buttons are capacitive. I've never been a fan of on screen buttons for various reasons, not to mention. If they are on screen buttons, what the heck is the big black strip at the bottom for? It holds the HTC Logo, sure, but if that's the only reason, then make more use of it. Put some freaking buttons there. Lol. I absolutely love my HTC One 2013, and I'm more than likely getting the 2014 model (which i really hope is called the One Up as some rumors suggest), but the on-screen buttons kill me.
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on screen navbar. this was confirmed a long long time ago.

mrvirginia said:
on screen navbar. this was confirmed a long long time ago.
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Confirmed by who? Don't a lot of phones use on screen simply for development models, then add the capacitive in the final models?

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Confirmed by who? Don't a lot of phones use on screen simply for development models, then add the capacitive in the final models?
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i guess you haven't been keeping track of the enormous amount of leaks regarding this device. visit a few phone tech sites like phonearena.com and you'll find all the info you might like to know.

mrvirginia said:
i guess you haven't been keeping track of the enormous amount of leaks regarding this device. visit a few phone tech sites like phonearena.com and you'll find all the info you might like to know.
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I've read a lot of the leaks, and none have really CONFIRMED on screen. Most do show it though. My big question is why the big black useless bar. It just looks bad if there's no use for it.

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I've read a lot of the leaks, and none have really CONFIRMED on screen. Most do show it though. My big question is why the big black useless bar. It just looks bad if there's no use for it.
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that's confirmation...
HTC wants their name on the front. if you don't like it, i would suggest a different device.

mrvirginia said:
that's confirmation...
HTC wants their name on the front. if you don't like it, i would suggest a different device.
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On screen isn't a game breaker for me. Just a nitpick. The all metal body and front facing speaker (as well as the Sense UI,which IMO isthe best stock UI) are enough to warrant me wanting one. Plus I have to buy a phone so I can give my wife my old M7

M8 dump has on screen buttons, if that's not enough confirmation :00
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Maybe they couldn't fit all the internals without the bezel. It doesn't bother me either way
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Maybe they couldn't fit all the internals without the bezel. It doesn't bother me either way
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AFAIK
On screen nav keys are very uncomfortable ...you will be confused about where to click...and in android (except Nexus) nav key bar resizes the layout everytime when appearing...this thing is most annoying!!!
So my decision is I wont buy this if it has On Screen nav...good bye
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meh, on screen keys will be quite nice, and im positive they'll be customize-able once rooted and xposed added in, just look at aosp, can put almost whatever button you want down there.

I actually find on-screen buttons more comfortable. Capacitive buttons on a large device dramatically increases the range of thumb motion required to efficiently operate it one handed. I can't say how many times I've tried to elegantly enable on-screen buttons on my GS3, but each time I was successful it was much less of a reach to hit the menu button.
I am excite for this phone. Seems more and more like a real winner. I don't mind a 2600 mah battery as the GS4 had that same size and was just fine. I was concerned they'd go with 2300-2400, at which point it'd be a deal breaker.
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I'm hopeful thatvthey might offer the ability to turn off on screen buttons, with hidden capacitive buttons in the large black bar. That would be ideal--the best of both worlds.
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Div033 said:
I actually find on-screen buttons more comfortable. Capacitive buttons on a large device dramatically increases the range of thumb motion required to efficiently operate it one handed. I can't say how many times I've tried to elegantly enable on-screen buttons on my GS3, but each time I was successful it was much less of a reach to hit the menu button.
I am excite for this phone. Seems more and more like a real winner. I don't mind a 2600 mah battery as the GS4 had that same size and was just fine. I was concerned they'd go with 2300-2400, at which point it'd be a deal breaker.
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I disagree on the on screen buttons, but it's an opinion, so there's no point in arguing it.I would LOVE to see a 3000 mah battery, but supposedly 2600 is "confirmed." I personally am skeptic about anything being confirmed until HTC themselves says it.
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I'm hopeful thatvthey might offer the ability to turn off on screen buttons, with hidden capacitive buttons in the large black bar. That would be ideal--the best of both worlds.
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I would LOVE to see this. Or at least some use for that area. As I said earlier, it's not a deal breaker, but the random black bar along with the lack on capacitive buttons won't be appreciated on my end at least. Though I understand one opinion does not change an entire company. Unless I'm the CEO of HTC and I didn't know it.

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I disagree on the on screen buttons, but it's an opinion, so there's no point in arguing it.I would LOVE to see a 3000 mah battery, but supposedly 2600 is "confirmed." I personally am skeptic about anything being confirmed until HTC themselves says it.
I would LOVE to see this. Or at least some use for that area. As I said earlier, it's not a deal breaker, but the random black bar along with the lack on capacitive buttons won't be appreciated on my end at least. Though I understand one opinion does not change an entire company. Unless I'm the CEO of HTC and I didn't know it.
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they put on screen keys as per google's instructions to get on their good side
BUT htc probably kept the digitizer all the way down the black space, soooo.....
htc one 2013 rewind to last may and the logo was turned to a menu button, what do you think is gonna happen this time?
come on people start looking forward, after release most software solvable problems will be dealt with

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I'm hopeful thatvthey might offer the ability to turn off on screen buttons, with hidden capacitive buttons in the large black bar. That would be ideal--the best of both worlds.
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This would be win-tastic. But I could see how they might think of it as a wasted expense... Don't keep your hopes up.
It would be so cool though.
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ipsuvedi said:
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On screen nav keys are very uncomfortable ...you will be confused about where to click...and in android (except Nexus) nav key bar resizes the layout everytime when appearing...this thing is most annoying!!!
So my decision is I wont buy this if it has On Screen nav...good bye
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Oh, I absolutely love the on-screen navbar! It's so much faster and efficient than any capacitive button I've used!