Fixing to make a decision on my tab - Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a tab 3 7.0 and need the OTG ability for gaming, I am debating on getting another tablet and getting rid of this one. I am currently looking at either a tab 3 8.0 or nexus 7. The nexus would be a no brainer except for the lack of a sd card slot. I know you can use the cable and hook up a external drive but that would be combersome. So I guess I need to know if there is any possibility of the tab 3 7.0 getting the ability to use OTG or should I look into getting another one.
Also would the Nexus be a better choice or the 8.0 tab. Both are about the same price and comparable they both have their strong points. Larger screen available internal sd card vs better resolution and quicker access to upgrades. I have a GS4 as a phone and like the Samsung.

tbone22 said:
I have a tab 3 7.0 and need the OTG ability for gaming, I am debating on getting another tablet and getting rid of this one. I am currently looking at either a tab 3 8.0 or nexus 7. The nexus would be a no brainer except for the lack of a sd card slot. I know you can use the cable and hook up a external drive but that would be combersome. So I guess I need to know if there is any possibility of the tab 3 7.0 getting the ability to use OTG or should I look into getting another one.
Also would the Nexus be a better choice or the 8.0 tab. Both are about the same price and comparable they both have their strong points. Larger screen available internal sd card vs better resolution and quicker access to upgrades. I have a GS4 as a phone and like the Samsung.
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This isnt the response you were looking for but what does OTG mean. Just got the tab and not really enjoying the preformance with the Iron Man game.

OTG means on the go it is the ability to plug a USB device into the charging port of your phone. Ie a mouse, keyboard, flash drive or in my case a psi or xbox controller.

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OTG means on the go it is the ability to plug a USB device into the charging port of your phone. Ie a mouse, keyboard, flash drive or in my case a psi or xbox controller.
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Thanks for the reply.

From what I can understand, no. Don't take me as the final answer though I am no expert.
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Im no expert either, but I had the Asus Nexus 7 32gb before I had my Galaxy Tab 3 8.
I love removable media. 32gb filled up fast with music and movies. It wasn't that huge a deal,
but now that I have the Tab 3 I feel better and roomier...
I had OTG with my Nexus and it was great and worked perfectly. I was not aware I could not do the
same with the Tab 3. Ill look into it. The OTG came in handy once in awhile. Not a deal breaker but nice
to have.
Hands down, the 7" screen of the Nexus isn't even close to the 8" of the Tab 3. I feel like I have
the full use of the screen with the Tab, while the Nexus had bigger borders. Its more enjoyable with the
bigger screen. Seems clearer and more vibrant.
Speed felt the same. I ROM'd both, and they were equal with APKs and mods and such, so honestly neither one
was better than the other in real world use. Im sure benchmarks and quadrant scores might say different
but it all seemed the same to me. Battery life seemed the same too, but since I never drained the battery
entirely in a day, I was always able to easily recharge both when needed.
I had the Nexus 7 for a year, and the Tab 3 for a month now. Both were great, but I feel like I got a nice
worthwhile upgrade with the Tab 3 8.
Just my pennies worth. Hope it helps
EDIT: I know my signature and my devices make it look like Im a Samsung fanboy, but it only turned out that way in the
last few months. Ive had them all, and all different brands over the last few years. If someone makes something better
I have no issue with switching...
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From what I can understand, no. Don't take me as the final answer though I am no expert.
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roninep said:
Im no expert either, but I had the Asus Nexus 7 32gb before I had my Galaxy Tab 3 8.
I love removable media. 32gb filled up fast with music and movies. It wasn't that huge a deal,
but now that I have the Tab 3 I feel better and roomier...
I had OTG with my Nexus and it was great and worked perfectly. I was not aware I could not do the
same with the Tab 3. Ill look into it. The OTG came in handy once in awhile. Not a deal breaker but nice
to have.
Hands down, the 7" screen of the Nexus isn't even close to the 8" of the Tab 3. I feel like I have
the full use of the screen with the Tab, while the Nexus had bigger borders. Its more enjoyable with the
bigger screen. Seems clearer and more vibrant.
Speed felt the same. I ROM'd both, and they were equal with APKs and mods and such, so honestly neither one
was better than the other in real world use. Im sure benchmarks and quadrant scores might say different
but it all seemed the same to me. Battery life seemed the same too, but since I never drained the battery
entirely in a day, I was always able to easily recharge both when needed.
I had the Nexus 7 for a year, and the Tab 3 for a month now. Both were great, but I feel like I got a nice
worthwhile upgrade with the Tab 3 8.
Just my pennies worth. Hope it helps
EDIT: I know my signature and my devices make it look like Im a Samsung fanboy, but it only turned out that way in the
last few months. Ive had them all, and all different brands over the last few years. If someone makes something better
I have no issue with switching...
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Thanks that is what I was looking for. By the way the tab 3 8 does have OTG capabilities they even sell the cable on Samsung website for the 8.

Great. Didn't know that. I'll check out and confirm the otg tonight. Thanks
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I can confirm that OTG works on the Tab 3 8.
Im rooted using Fast Dreams ROM with the Galatab kernel.
I used Stickmount 2.3.1 from the Playstore also.
And just got a normal OTG cable from a generic website (it was NOT a Samsung cable).
I didn't do anything else.
Good luck
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Great. Didn't know that. I'll check out and confirm the otg tonight. Thanks
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roninep said:
I can confirm that OTG works on the Tab 3 8.
Im rooted using Fast Dreams ROM with the Galatab kernel.
I used Stickmount 2.3.1 from the Playstore also.
And just got a normal OTG cable from a generic website (it was NOT a Samsung cable).
I didn't do anything else.
Good luck
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I can also confirm that the tab 3 8 supports otg out of the box without any mods, also tab 2 7 support s otg.

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What tablet would you buy?

Currently have PA 3.1 Galaxy Nexus. I love it. Thinking I should get a tablet. Even though I just bought a laptop. Which one though. I'm thinking nexus 10. What are your thoughts.
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Do you want a big tablet? I personally prefer the 7-8" form factor as it's easier to handle and carry around. Or you can wait a few months, I imagine Google will be releasing a new tablet during I/O in may.
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Hmm.. I would compare the latest ipad vs nexus 10.
I think i would go for a nexus 10. Android lover , aka the NEXUS *****
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If I were to replace my Motorola Xoom tablet now, I would get the nexus 10. Although with a tablet its a purchase that lasts you quite a long time. My Xoom is 2 years old and is still functioning perfectly fine for all my tasks.
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Galaxy Note 10.1 or note 8.0. Software is good and so is specifications
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Once you go Nexus....
I got myself a Nexus 10. Felt right. Feels right.
I also share 18t's point of view.
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Tablet Choice
My Xoom is 2 years old and is still functioning perfectly fine for all my tasks.
I also own XOOM (running TeamEos 4.2.1 155 nightly build) and am perfectly happy with it; however, I also got the itch for latest and greatest, and bought an N10 (running stock 4.2.2 stock and rooted) and love it as well.
If you're a GED fan, you can't go wrong w/ N10.
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Do you want a big tablet? I personally prefer the 7-8" form factor as it's easier to handle and carry around. Or you can wait a few months, I imagine Google will be releasing a new tablet during I/O in may.
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This is a good thing to keep in mind, if Google keeps with their annual update yearly on Nexus line, the N7 and N10 could be having updated versions rolling out. Or perhaps something completely different. Perhaps they don't plan on updating them at all.
That said, for a tablet you have to consider a few things you want. First what size do you want? Then what do you want to do with said tablet? What accessories do you want for your tablet? What is your budget? What OS do you want (perhaps you want a different OS, to experience different apps from a different ecosystem)? What sort of connectivity do you want (HDMI, 3G/4G...etc)? These all could point you to different options.
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This is a good thing to keep in mind, if Google keeps with their annual update yearly on Nexus line, the N7 and N10 could be having updated versions rolling out. Or perhaps something completely different. Perhaps they don't plan on updating them at all.
That said, for a tablet you have to consider a few things you want. First what size do you want? Then what do you want to do with said tablet? What accessories do you want for your tablet? What is your budget? What OS do you want (perhaps you want a different OS, to experience different apps from a different ecosystem)? What sort of connectivity do you want (HDMI, 3G/4G...etc)? These all could point you to different options.
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All valid points. Very much a nexus fan. Can't put a price limit on great tech. Android os obviously. Doesn't matter which one as root and custom ROM is a must. Size doesn't matter. Haha. WiFi connectivity is fine but 3 or 4g is an option too. Really just wanted to know what the census was out there.
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Ask yourself, what you want that tablet for?
After buying mine, i find it kinda under used...
I don't need a tablet, but it would be good for the whole family, especially video call and acting as an HTPC. I've decided that it must be able to play HD videos smoothly and have physical HDMI output. This unfortunately rule out the Nexus 7 which I really like the form factor of. The Nexus 10 is overkill for my needs.
So I probably will pick up the Kindle Fire HD, but seem the rom development progress slowly and Amazon OS seems dreadful from an AOSP user. But the price point and HDMI output make it the main contender.
Maybe I'll just go for the Asus TF300T since it's only $50 more used, but I have Asia tablet in the past, good hardware but the proprietary charging port is a turn off.
I'm not ruling out Chinese tablets with rk3066 cpu as well.
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jmileti said:
Currently have PA 3.1 Galaxy Nexus. I love it. Thinking I should get a tablet. Even though I just bought a laptop. Which one though. I'm thinking nexus 10. What are your thoughts.
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I use my phone a hell lot more than I use my tablet. My nexus 7 feels like a big phone that cannot make phone calls. I have all my games on it though.
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Galaxy Note 10.1 or note 8.0. Software is good and so is specifications
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same here. i at least had the gn10.1 until two weeks ago. sold it and got a ATIV 500t.
i love the spen and the multiwindow is wonderful on the note. i may end up selling my nook hd+ later and get the gn8. i hate that i've become a samsung fanboy, but until someone else makes something better it's what i'll be getting. don't get me started on asus tablets quality control...
so, spen was more important than screen res for me.
Well while looking for a suitable 7" tablet, I went ahead and picked up a Kindle Fire HD and is underwhelmed even after rooting it. Unfortunately the ones on display at WorseBuy are in demonstration mode which lock down everything.. But I didn't want to spend more than $200. Other choices I looked at were:
-Nexus 7 is out of the question due to no HDMI out. I knew this device would be perfect except for this one factor.
-I could order some pretty high performance RK3066 chip Chinese tablet for under $100, but skip them because they have poor built quality, lots of people with battery and charging issues, sketchy to no warranty and probably not much development.
-Other choices available are the Nook tablet which I'm impressed with the high res screen, but quick search shows CM10 currently perform poorly on it and having to fork out $40 for an HDMI adapter.
-Same with Samsung and Asus tablets which also use proprietary ports and needing adapters purchase that I dislike.
-The Acer A110 tablet almost match with what I want with the bonus of microSD slot, except the for horrid screen quality and low resolution. There were the Lenovo tablet which seems to have nice build, but $300.
Main reason to get the Kindle Fire HD was the stereo speaker and standard usb and hdmi ports. Interestingly, this device have the same CPU spec as the Galaxy Nexus, yet the XBMC hardware accelerated test build playback movies smoother on my Nexus than this tablet which stuttered even with 720p MKV videos. This might be a deal killer, but its due to the poor optimization done by Amazon. Probably the only hope of my keeping this tablet would be for a working CM10.1 version for it. My disappoint of the performance of this device is mainly due to the software itself, the hardware are good. Its my first experience with Amazon AppStore and I think its junk compared to the PlayStore(though I know I can side load the PlayStore to this). It seem to be a wall downed garden like Apple, except in this case the interface sucks too.
I am very happy with the quality when connected to the TV however, along with stereo speakers, screen quality and front camera and mic for video calling is nice.
I have a Xoom running cm10.1-nightly now, if I would need to buy a new tablet I would go for a Nexus 10.
Multiple users is probably the best thing that has happened for Android on tablets. The only way to be guaranteed to have this feature is to buy a Nexus.
7" might be too small, but you might get used to it over time.
Well I returned the Kindle Fire HD and got the Nexus 7, naturally. Just fed up with the 'Amazon OS', and even after making my own 'fastboot cable' to be able to boot the device into fastboot mode and install TWRP, installed PlayStore, the device is still very limited and looks like there aren't much developers interested. My chance of ever buying another Amazon device is zero because of their locked down OS design. Too bad because it have a better screen, speaker and seem more durable than the Nexus 7 with hdmi out.
I also saw an Asus Memo Pad Smart 10 for $299 at the store with Tegra3 also, it use standard microUSB port and standard micro-HDMI out and microSD slot, amazing combo, its very rare to find a device with all these standard ports without all the proprietary craps. But being 10" its just not as portable and comfortable for me. I'm just getting the Nexus 7 to be sure I'm happy with the software and developer community, but I'm definitely checking on the development of this device also.

Replace Nexus 7 with Note 2?

Hey everyone!
At the moment, I'm using Nexus S and Nexus 7 combo. Nexus S is getting too old to be on par with new software which lags, and since I have the I9023 version, it has SLCD display and camera wasn't as good even for the time when it came out.
So I was thinking, maybe I should sell both devices and add a bit more money to it, and get Note 2?
So I did the math
I lose:
- bigger N7's screen
- Nexus experience
- multiple devices option (battery saving and stuff)
- good reading experience on N7
I get:
- a single device on which everything is done
- Note experience
- by far a better camera
- Super AMOLED display
So I need your opinion, I hope this isn't getting way too boring for you (these questions), does it pay out, since I'd really like Note 2.
I own both, and I hardly use my Nexus 7 now Depends on your usage though, you must already be aware that screen size is significantly smaller - but it's significantly better device in all other respects, and much easier to hold than a tablet obviously. For me, N2 hits the sweet spot. And obviously there's S Pen, which you may or may not use - I do use it a lot for browsing and typing especially.
I just switched from Nexus 7 + Lumia 800 to Note 2. I am very happy with the change. The Nexus was great, I loved it, but I had to carry two devices. Now it is perfect.
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the google experience is very beautifull, but it is too thin, too poor of features and uncared for in my opinion, the only good thing is lightening fast updates.
For the rest I sold the Nexus 7 as soon as I took notes 2 and I decided to buy 10.1 Notes and Notes 2 and now I feel really good xD
Get a note 8... best of note 2 in a bigger size. .phone calling included
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Note 8 isn't a phone. It's still a tablet with call facility. Obviously if that's what he's looking for then Note 8's the better choice obviously.
Dzong said:
the google experience is very beautifull, but it is too thin, too poor of features and uncared for in my opinion, the only good thing is lightening fast updates.
For the rest I sold the Nexus 7 as soon as I took notes 2 and I decided to buy 10.1 Notes and Notes 2 and now I feel really good xD
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Exactly. But honestly, that is why we have this forum, I can always try some ROM of new Android which is not yet available for Note.
I don't think I'll get Note 8, I can't really carry it around everywhere I go. I'll go for Note 2, already sold my racket I don't use that much, so I need to sell my NS and N7 and that's it.
Question though! Reason I was hesitating was big screen for gaming, and then it hit me - Note does have HDMI output right? So can I fire up say, Asphalt 7 and hook it up to TV, and then just use my phone as a controller?
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Exactly. But honestly, that is why we have this forum, I can always try some ROM of new Android which is not yet available for Note.
I don't think I'll get Note 8, I can't really carry it around everywhere I go. I'll go for Note 2, already sold my racket I don't use that much, so I need to sell my NS and N7 and that's it.
Question though! Reason I was hesitating was big screen for gaming, and then it hit me - Note does have HDMI output right? So can I fire up say, Asphalt 7 and hook it up to TV, and then just use my phone as a controller?
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If the nexus experience is not that important to you then by all means get the note2. Touchwiz is actually bearable and useful on the mote2. Very optimized hardware, software is pretty good and optimized, battery life can't be beat, screen is friggin' awesome especially movie mode for the accuracy, reception is actually pretty dang awesome for a Samsung phone, it is easier to hold than a 7" tablet, the interchangeable battery and expandable storage etc etc...
Yes, there is video out through mhl. I highly recommend getting the official OEM accessories to do it, and there are different methods of getting it like the smart dock, adapters or straight mhl to HDMI cable. I haven't tried games yet, but you might want to consider the input lag that might or might not be there. Video though looks great.
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Good to see I'm not the only one with N7 and SGNII I have both devices and don't carry my N7 as much as I used to, but I love it and use it at home, since it's much more convenient, bigger screen, etc. Note II is BIG, but not as big as N7
I had an n7 too, but no longer. The screen is bigger, but I found that the superior display quality of the note 2 factors in in the reading experience. An even better example is my Transformer Pad, which has such an abysmal display compared to the note 2, that I almost read better on my phone in spite of it being a fourth of the screen size.
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I would better have note 10.1 with note 2, experience of both tablets and phablets world
I have Note 2 and Note 8 and I'm thinking of selling the Note 8 as I hardly ever use it.
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[Q] Do you recommend this tablet?

I have decided that I would like an android tablet. I was waiting a long time for a new Nexus 10, but that has yet to materialize.
The main reason I have become interested in the Note 10.1 2014 is for its S-pen support for note taking. My primary concern with the tablet is lack of a development community. I own an HTC One currently and there is no shortage of developers.
Would you all recommend this tablet or should I go with another tablet?
Thanks!
This is by far the best tablet I hare ever used. I actually hate tablets but this one is so amazing for my current Uses that it is actually better than a Laptop (for me)
The development community is small Now but remember the vote 3 came out at the same time and the nexus 7 is here. Plus the high cost. We did just get scrosler (Clean Rom) and he is getting the Note 2014 soon. I love the touch wiz features and really just want a few streamlined and optimised roms and a bit of themeing. Anyone demanding AOSP or CM on this device is throwing away 75% of the reasons to get it LOL. IT's fast Powerful fun and incredibly useful, you'll love it.
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Duly.noted said:
This is by far the best tablet I hare ever used. I actually hate tablets but this one is so amazing for my current Uses that it is actually better than a Laptop (for me)
The development community is small Now but remember the vote 3 came out at the same time and the nexus 7 is here. Plus the high cost. We did just get scrosler (Clean Rom) and he is getting the Note 2014 soon. I love the touch wiz features and really just want a few streamlined and optimised roms and a bit of themeing. Anyone demanding AOSP or CM on this device is throwing away 75% of the reasons to get it LOL. IT's fast Powerful fun and incredibly useful, you'll love it.
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Any complaints at all?
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Any complaints at all?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482756
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482756
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I own ipad air and this tablet, without been rooted this tabled is very very slow and lagy compared to Air, just not the seam league.
But after disabled all samsung software it gain noticeable speed leap and in productivity way it is out shine Air.
I think the only thing keeping me from switching from my Windows tablet is the lack of support for connecting to ntsf external hard drives. Otherwise this tablet looks like a beast!
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I own ipad air and this tablet, without been rooted this tabled is very very slow and lagy compared to Air, just not the seam league.
But after disabled all samsung software it gain noticeable speed leap and in productivity way it is out shine Air.
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Think very very slow and laggy is a bit over the top, before I rooted it wasn't as quick but could never say it was way off the ipad air
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mjs2011 said:
I think the only thing keeping me from switching from my Windows tablet is the lack of support for connecting to ntsf external hard drives. Otherwise this tablet looks like a beast!
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Why? Search for Paragon NTFS ON Googleplay. Should solve your problem.
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bogypop said:
Why? Search for Paragon NTFS ON Googleplay. Should solve your problem.
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Thanks! So do you really think this would work with, for example, a Seagate 750gb external hard drive? I know the problem I had when I had a Nexus 7 (2012 Edition) is that it would initially power it on, but I couldn't see any of the files using the Stickmount app.
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Thanks! So do you really think this would work with, for example, a Seagate 750gb external hard drive? I know the problem I had when I had a Nexus 7 (2012 Edition) is that it would initially power it on, but I couldn't see any of the files using the Stickmount app.
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Yes it does work, but even a portable hard drive will need an external power source as the Note's micro USB (or probably any other tablet) will not output enough power to drive an external mechanical hard drive. USB drives all seem to work OK, I've not yet tried an SSD yet. Paragon NTFS works very well though, I would guess most of the negative feedback on the PlayStore if from those who don't understand there's not sufficient power going to the drive. Just because the power LED lights up doesn't mean that there's enough power to drive the disk mechanics.
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Yes it does work, but even a portable hard drive will need an external power source as the Note's micro USB (or probably any other tablet) will not output enough power to drive an external mechanical hard drive. USB drives all seem to work OK, I've not yet tried an SSD yet. Paragon NTFS works very well though, I would guess most of the negative feedback on the PlayStore if from those who don't understand there's not sufficient power going to the drive. Just because the power LED lights up doesn't mean that there's enough power to drive the disk mechanics.
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Ok that makes sense. Hmmm.....I think the big problem then would be to find a power source. My external only has the one USB port.
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Ok that makes sense. Hmmm.....I think the big problem then would be to find a power source. My external only has the one USB port.
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Yes. You need external power (although, I have a 250GB drive from a 13" MacBook Pro which works with no external power) and you need .... root.
Ok thanks guys. I'll probably look at the Surface Pro 2 instead. I'm normally an Android fan-boy, but I'm looking for a device where I can easily plug in my hard drive and use it. Sounds like the workaround is a little too much here.
Has the performance improved since release? I have been seeing some people claiming that subsequent updates have improved lag.
Can anyone comment on the lag after updates?
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Ok thanks guys. I'll probably look at the Surface Pro 2 instead. I'm normally an Android fan-boy, but I'm looking for a device where I can easily plug in my hard drive and use it. Sounds like the workaround is a little too much here.
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I bought this off amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FXSVVNE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 works like a charm for plugging a mouse keyboard, usb, sd cards and external hardrives
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I bought this off amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FXSVVNE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 works like a charm for plugging a mouse keyboard, usb, sd cards and external hardrives
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There are some odd lags here and there. I am running clean ROM, fully de-bloated and there is still keyboard lag on the sammy keyboard and when you re-boot the widgets take forever to load.
That being said I am confident that developers will work out the kinks. The screen is AMAZING. Exynos is just a bit slower than the Qualcomm offering but still plenty fast. There is no other Android tablet I'd buy.
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There are some odd lags here and there. I am running clean ROM, fully de-bloated and there is still keyboard lag on the sammy keyboard and when you re-boot the widgets take forever to load.
That being said I am confident that developers will work out the kinks. The screen is AMAZING. Exynos is just a bit slower than the Qualcomm offering but still plenty fast. There is no other Android tablet I'd buy.
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Ordered it last night, look forward to getting it!
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Mine is better after updating from MJ6 to ML1.
However, I think that you would want to be prepared to root this tablet to get the most out of it. I am still getting up the nerve to do it.
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mjs2011 said:
Ok thanks guys. I'll probably look at the Surface Pro 2 instead. I'm normally an Android fan-boy, but I'm looking for a device where I can easily plug in my hard drive and use it. Sounds like the workaround is a little too much here.
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I considered that device but it is so expensive by comparison. I expect to use pretty much nothing but wireless solutions with this tablet (in my case, basically all via VPN or internet). Have you considered a wireless hard drive? They have their own inbuilt power. That will make for a pretty slick set-up and I would think you'd prefer it over a cabled hard drive once you'd started using it.
Just a thought.
I have experimented a bit with RDP and android office stuff with this tablet and I think with a good portable keyboard/case/whatever it kicks Windows 8's butt.

Should I Get a Tab 3 10.1?

Hey guys, I currently have a MacBook Air 11, and I am looking for a tablet that I can use for when I don't wanna pull out my Macbook.
I am trying to spend less than $300. So I can get a refurbished Tab 3 10.1 for $225. However I can also get the first Galaxy Note 10.1(first edition) for $250.
I also can get an iPad 3rd gen for about $275.
So I am a bit conflicted. I just want something cheap that I can browse the internet on, play a few games, and use SmartGlass for my XboxOne
If look around get a nexus 10 for under 300 or nexus 7, if not just go with refurbished one
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If look around get a nexus 10 for under 300 or nexus 7, if not just go with refurbished one
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Would the Nexus 10 be better than the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1?
Depends what your users are going to be. Being you have a Mac, I say go with iPad (as much as I hate saying that). You already have apple asps and usernames that would make it easier for you.
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NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
Depends what your users are going to be. Being you have a Mac, I say go with iPad (as much as I hate saying that). You already have apple asps and usernames that would make it easier for you.
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Well I do have a Macbook, and an iPhone 5. But I am trying to get out of the apple ecosystem.
I'm going to get an android phone when my upgrade is up.
Basically my uses are going to be: Using while I'm in bed, on the couch to mainly surf the web, email, play a few games here and there, and use for SmartGlass for my Xbox. If it's anything more than that, I'll just use my Macbook.
Shakenbake158 said:
Well I do have a Macbook, and an iPhone 5. But I am trying to get out of the apple ecosystem.
I'm going to get an android phone when my upgrade is up.
Basically my uses are going to be: Using while I'm in bed, on the couch to mainly surf the web, email, play a few games here and there, and use for SmartGlass for my Xbox. If it's anything more than that, I'll just use my Macbook.
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I think it is wise to switch as long as you've done your research first. It can be expensive switching ecosystems, but Android tends to be much cheaper that iOS from what I've witnessed at least. But that is only part of what makes Android wonderful. As for the Tab 3 10.1, right now, I'm struggling because I wanted it to have user switching. That's something supported by Jellybean, but alas, Samsung has omitted it from this build. So I've been searching everywhere for custom ROMs but it seems that no one is developing for it because it runs on Intel and people aren't used to that structure just yet. All I can do it root is and tweak things here and there, but not what I want it to, so my point of view is a little skewed toward dislike.
If you have the funds, I would recommend the Nexus 10 32GB. Unfortunately, Nexus devices don't have microSD expansion like the Galaxy devices, but it has all the features it should and it would be easy to find custom development for it once you get bored with the stock UI.
TBH I personally would NOT recommend you buying the tab 3 10.1. I'd rather buy a Nexus 7 2013 or a Nexus 10 or a LG Gpad 8.3.
thsi is because of the silly Intel processor within the tab and Android not really cooperating with it.
You'll be better off running an ARM processor.
Just my 2 cents. Hope you enjoy whatever tablet you buy.
And as much as I dislike Windows 8 it works well on tablets. So that is also a good choice IMO
Good luck !
Nitro
I have the tab 3 10.1 and it's a pretty good tablet. There's nothing so far about it that I don't like, BUT the resolution.
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I think it is wise to switch as long as you've done your research first. It can be expensive switching ecosystems, but Android tends to be much cheaper that iOS from what I've witnessed at least. But that is only part of what makes Android wonderful. As for the Tab 3 10.1, right now, I'm struggling because I wanted it to have user switching. That's something supported by Jellybean, but alas, Samsung has omitted it from this build. So I've been searching everywhere for custom ROMs but it seems that no one is developing for it because it runs on Intel and people aren't used to that structure just yet. All I can do it root is and tweak things here and there, but not what I want it to, so my point of view is a little skewed toward dislike.
If you have the funds, I would recommend the Nexus 10 32GB. Unfortunately, Nexus devices don't have microSD expansion like the Galaxy devices, but it has all the features it should and it would be easy to find custom development for it once you get bored with the stock UI.
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Well I don't need the user switching, I mean this is just going to be a device that I use when I am not using my Macbook for fun or leisure. It wont be something that I rely on.
How would you say the tegra 3 compares to the intel chip in the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1?
Nitro_123 said:
TBH I personally would NOT recommend you buying the tab 3 10.1. I'd rather buy a Nexus 7 2013 or a Nexus 10 or a LG Gpad 8.3.
thsi is because of the silly Intel processor within the tab and Android not really cooperating with it.
You'll be better off running an ARM processor.
Just my 2 cents. Hope you enjoy whatever tablet you buy.
And as much as I dislike Windows 8 it works well on tablets. So that is also a good choice IMO
Good luck !
Nitro
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How much faster is the Nexus 7 2013 going to be than the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1? I am considering the Nexus 7 now possibly.
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I have the tab 3 10.1 and it's a pretty good tablet. There's nothing so far about it that I don't like, BUT the resolution.
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Do you think it would be a good first device to dive into android with?
Thank you all for replying.
I had a dell streak 7 and it had a poor following for development, but I used it enough to know my next tab would be a 10 inch.(7 inch Too Small) I just got this tab 3, and it is killer. It doesn't have any custom ROMS that are drastically different that stock, Still...it is running the newest version of Jelly Bean, and really doesn't need "upgrading" It is so snappy and fast, I am tickled to death with it. I love the stock OS, and I figure by the time I get bored with it Cyanogen Mod will be available for it. Of course my view is also skewed because I was struggling with a Dell Streak 7 (slowpoke) before I got my Tab 3. I also enjoy (watching) the developers forum for this device, it's very entertaining because they discover new things about this tablet every day it seems. That stuff is mostly over my head right now, but I hope to learn more, so I can contribute in the future. Good luck with your choice...I just love mine.
I just bought a Tab 3 10.1 from Amazon last week. I also purchased a leather case with Bluetooth keyboard to go with it. The order total was 311 for me and well worth it. I also have a Galaxy s4.
I think if you are looking to switch to the Android ecosystem I would recommend setting up a Google account now if you do not have one already. The one thing I like about Google and the android environment is the built in cloud environment.
I am on my 4th Android phone and first tablet and have never had to transfer or backup contacts, settings or files. I log into the new device it automatically downloads the settings wallpaper and apps I use. The contacts are stored in the Google account on Google servers. I have seen even the most experienced iDevice users try to mimic this seamless integration but fall short (though not impossible).
My only advice in order to make sure you never have to back up files and pictures (with caution) is to utilize Google drive if you do not already.
When I first moved to Android from Blackberry the selling point was that my contacts are stored in my Google account. Saved my life many times.
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Well guys, I went to BestBuy to check out the tablets.
I looked at the Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 and 10.1, Note 8.0 and 10.1 and the Nexus 7.
The two tabs seemed a bit sluggish when getting in and out of apps, and the load times in chrome were a little slower compared to the Notes.
The Note 10.1 is the perfect device for me, I absolutely loved it, but it's way out of my price range. But I also loved the Note 8.0.
The Nexus 7 seemed nice too, but it was in some demo mode so I couldn't actually open apps and such.
How does the Note 8.0 compare to the Nexus 7? At this point I think I like the Note 8.0 more, purely based on form factor.
Edit: How much faster is the Note 8.0 than the Tab 3?
Also how does the Note 8.0 compare to the original Note 10.1?
As far as I am concerned NO MORE SAMSUNG. Samsung just doesn't support…update the system on any of their tabs. I am selling my Galaxy 10.1 note today and getting something else. Sold my S4 and got a nexus 5 and am very happy.
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As far as I am concerned NO MORE SAMSUNG. Samsung just doesn't support…update the system on any of their tabs. I am selling my Galaxy 10.1 note today and getting something else. Sold my S4 and got a nexus 5 and am very happy.
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Well that is interesting.
If you had to recommend me a tablet, what would you recommend? Other than the Nexus 7.
I'd Recommend the LG Gpad 8.3 Google Play Edition as it has a slightly bigger screen.
I do NOT recommend Samsung devices as they have a CRAP LOAD of bloatware installed. Quite a few of those things run constantly using up RAM/CPU and eating battery life and in return, they give nothing.
I'd rather have an AOSP based ROM without the 'goodies' than a stock ROM with them.
I've owned 4 samsung devices so I think I can speak for them
This is my skightly skewed opinion. you should decide what you buy. We are just giving you advice
MY advice would be to purchase a google play edition device/ Nexus device as I find them the best in terms of everything
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I'd Recommend the LG Gpad 8.3 Google Play Edition as it has a slightly bigger screen.
I do NOT recommend Samsung devices as they have a CRAP LOAD of bloatware installed. Quite a few of those things run constantly using up RAM/CPU and eating battery life and in return, they give nothing.
I'd rather have an AOSP based ROM without the 'goodies' than a stock ROM with them.
I've owned 4 samsung devices so I think I can speak for them
This is my skightly skewed opinion. you should decide what you buy. We are just giving you advice
MY advice would be to purchase a google play edition device/ Nexus device as I find them the best in terms of everything
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Well maybe I should just get the Nexus 7.
I can't seem to find a Google Play G Pad in my price range :/
Did you get the Nexus 7? I was going to until I found that some of the 2013 model had screen/hardware and touchscreen issues. My wife has the gtab 2 10.1 which I put cm 4.3 and a custom overclocked kernal on and it runs smooth and quick. After using it a while I wanted something a bit smaller for myself and settled on the gtab 3 8.0. I like the size much better and the screen is plenty big and bright. It is quick and responsive with the stock rom. There is some development happening for it including an overclocked kernal and I am waiting patiently for a stable rom.
If you bought the Nexus, let us know how it is. I hope it's one of the good ones.

[Q] Are you happy with your note 10.1 (2014 Edition)

I just ordered it and I will have my paws on my Note on Monday. I am very excited but I want to know what everyone else thinks. I have gone back and forth from Android to Apple and back. I wanted to go not only Android but back to Samsung. I am looking at going to the Galaxy Note 4 when that goes on sale next month.
But really. with not having root access (yet) are you still happy with the Note 10.1?
Happy? Yes, very.
I have the P605, so am rooted without knox fuse trip.
It took me a while to choose a tablet, UK Note 10.1" 2014's are only 16GB Wifi only versions AFAIK, and for the money I was spending I wanted better specs, so I had to order a Hong Kong p605 import which allowed me to have 3g/4g and have 32GB storage (64B would have been too much $$).
I was replacing a Note 1 (n7000) so needed something that I could use as a phone too, didn't want to mess with 2 devices, tethering, etc.
The only issue I have so far is a distinct lack of accessories. I wish there was a choice of docks, cases, etc.
So yeah, other than that, very happy, it is fast and smooth and does what I need it to.
Some UK carriers don't allow tablets to be used on their networks, my 3 sim detected and rejected my p605 saying it was not allowed, but that is not really the tablets fault.
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I just ordered it and I will have my paws on my Note on Monday. I am very excited but I want to know what everyone else thinks. I have gone back and forth from Android to Apple and back. I wanted to go not only Android but back to Samsung. I am looking at going to the Galaxy Note 4 when that goes on sale next month.
But really. with not having root access (yet) are you still happy with the Note 10.1?
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First let me say that some people are not happy with anything, and nothing is ever perfect.
I have a stock SM-P600 32 GB and I'm very happy. I also have a Stock GT-8013 that was restored back to stock from root and my wife is happy with it also.
Had my SM-P605 LTE tablet since December and still loving it. Not rooted and with OTA updates I am at KitKat 4.4.2. I use Nova Launcher and it's smooth as butter. No issues whatsoever. Enjoy your new baby
The best tablet ever, even sale my iPad to get this one and I dont regret it. I have upgrade to KK rooted and install custom rom. ?
Am I happy with the tablet? Thats a deffo yes it is truely an awesome tablet.
Am I happy with samsung updates? Thats a different subject lol. Either way overall theres no denying this tablet is amazing but maybe I'm just a tad wierd and slightly annoyed at the way Samsung handles their updates (Still no kitkat in UK 10 months on), I keep blabbering on that this is my last samsung product but who am I kidding - nothing compares in terms of note features. Will have to wait and see haha.
Anyhoo am sure you'll love it :thumbup:
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enotar said:
The best tablet ever, even sale my iPad to get this one and I dont regret it. I have upgrade to KK rooted and install custom rom. ?
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I am doing the same thing. I wanted the galaxy tab s but did t want to spend that much money. This seems like a great tablet. Just hope the pixel quality looks better than my iPad mini.
The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.
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The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.
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If you rotate your device 180 degrees the screen rotates as well. then you can plug it in at the top and watch your movies.
I love my note, wouldn't mind an update in the UK though to KK. maybe one day?
Hong Kong 32gb p605 here, running stock 4.4.2 rooted with towel root. Very happy except for the lack of accessory options.
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The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.
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Is there a charging desk top dock for the note 10.1 2014?
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Is there a charging desk top dock for the note 10.1 2014?
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There is original dock station for our baby and also I have information from official samsung store that this one
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
also will work, still I did not test it yet.
To be in subject. I love my P605 and I hate Samsung that they did not focus more on promotion of it and there is few accessories in the market which you can get to it.
Second thing is the lack of support for many software designed for it. For example:
1. No possibility to unlock your PC(send ctrl+alt+del) when you are connect to it via Samsung Remote PC
2. Few note themes to SNotes - they could add much more
and much more.
Still it is defo worth to get it since it is still the best Tablet with Android in the market(TAB S don't have SPen and Xperia Z2 tablet is only marketing nymber1)
BR.
I have the exynos p600 and am very unhappy with it. I'm used to very fast speeds as I find on my smart phones but Samsung tablets lag way too much. Doesn't matter what specs you load them with. Touchwiz finds a way to hog it down. Tablet is decent..though build is cheap, back plate isn't even leather..its plastic made to look like leather. And the chrome..just awful. But I'm stuck with this as there a very few other android tablets worth swapping for at the moment
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sameer1807 said:
I have the exynos p600 and am very unhappy with it. I'm used to very fast speeds as I find on my smart phones but Samsung tablets lag way too much. Doesn't matter what specs you load them with. Touchwiz finds a way to hog it down. Tablet is decent..though build is cheap, back plate isn't even leather..its plastic made to look like leather. And the chrome..just awful. But I'm stuck with this as there a very few other android tablets worth swapping for at the moment
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I havent had an Android tablet in a while. My last was an ASUS T300 or something. I did have an 8 inch Galaxy Tab 2 last summer. I remember it being bogged down with Touch Wiz and being kinda laggy. Does putting another launcher (example: Nova Launcher) speed things up since you arent using the touch wiz launcher?
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I havent had an Android tablet in a while. My last was an ASUS T300 or something. I did have an 8 inch Galaxy Tab 2 last summer. I remember it being bogged down with Touch Wiz and being kinda laggy. Does putting another launcher (example: Nova Launcher) speed things up since you arent using the touch wiz launcher?
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Nova helps a bit, but the Kitkat update is probably also enough already.
Sort of; great tablet, great screen, pen is a blessing for school notes and drawings, the processor is a beast and it has enough ram. Now, i dont like almost anything that samsung did with it, it is either useless, buggy, slow or too small a detail to have touchwiz for. I wish i could deal with it installing cm or any other distribution but i have the p600 model so it seems i am ****ed. Sorry if i cant give opinion of roms like hydronium and xkat but i havent tried them because they seem to be only scrambled touchwiz.
All in all, for the price i got it for(around 400$) and with so so writing apps like "write" this is one of the only tablets that let me use it as a notebook so i am mildly happy with it.
TL;DR: Tablet is great, Touchwiz is not that great. Get p605 model.
Pazzu510 said:
Sort of; great tablet, great screen, pen is a blessing for school notes and drawings, the processor is a beast and it has enough ram. Now, i dont like almost anything that samsung did with it, it is either useless, buggy, slow or too small a detail to have touchwiz for. I wish i could deal with it installing cm or any other distribution but i have the p600 model so it seems i am ****ed. Sorry if i cant give opinion of roms like hydronium and xkat but i havent tried them because they seem to be only scrambled touchwiz.
All in all, for the price i got it for(around 400$) and with so so writing apps like "write" this is one of the only tablets that let me use it as a notebook so i am mildly happy with it.
TL;DR: Tablet is great, Touchwiz is not that great. Get p605 model.
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yeah...kinda wishing I would have gotten the Tab S instead. Maybe I will sell this on Craigslist or something and get the Tab S. Who knows
Simply put, F-yea
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I'm happy with this tablet, but not happy with stupid Samsung.
Very happy with this tablet, but can't stand TouchWiz and any of the S apps.
Replace TouchWiz with either Nova or Google launcher and S apps with anything else from Google Play (example: lecture notes).
About a year after Android L comes out and we are still on kit kat, I might feel a little different.
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