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What tablet would you buy?

Currently have PA 3.1 Galaxy Nexus. I love it. Thinking I should get a tablet. Even though I just bought a laptop. Which one though. I'm thinking nexus 10. What are your thoughts.
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Do you want a big tablet? I personally prefer the 7-8" form factor as it's easier to handle and carry around. Or you can wait a few months, I imagine Google will be releasing a new tablet during I/O in may.
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Hmm.. I would compare the latest ipad vs nexus 10.
I think i would go for a nexus 10. Android lover , aka the NEXUS *****
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If I were to replace my Motorola Xoom tablet now, I would get the nexus 10. Although with a tablet its a purchase that lasts you quite a long time. My Xoom is 2 years old and is still functioning perfectly fine for all my tasks.
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Galaxy Note 10.1 or note 8.0. Software is good and so is specifications
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Once you go Nexus....
I got myself a Nexus 10. Felt right. Feels right.
I also share 18t's point of view.
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My Xoom is 2 years old and is still functioning perfectly fine for all my tasks.
I also own XOOM (running TeamEos 4.2.1 155 nightly build) and am perfectly happy with it; however, I also got the itch for latest and greatest, and bought an N10 (running stock 4.2.2 stock and rooted) and love it as well.
If you're a GED fan, you can't go wrong w/ N10.

18t said:
Do you want a big tablet? I personally prefer the 7-8" form factor as it's easier to handle and carry around. Or you can wait a few months, I imagine Google will be releasing a new tablet during I/O in may.
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This is a good thing to keep in mind, if Google keeps with their annual update yearly on Nexus line, the N7 and N10 could be having updated versions rolling out. Or perhaps something completely different. Perhaps they don't plan on updating them at all.
That said, for a tablet you have to consider a few things you want. First what size do you want? Then what do you want to do with said tablet? What accessories do you want for your tablet? What is your budget? What OS do you want (perhaps you want a different OS, to experience different apps from a different ecosystem)? What sort of connectivity do you want (HDMI, 3G/4G...etc)? These all could point you to different options.

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This is a good thing to keep in mind, if Google keeps with their annual update yearly on Nexus line, the N7 and N10 could be having updated versions rolling out. Or perhaps something completely different. Perhaps they don't plan on updating them at all.
That said, for a tablet you have to consider a few things you want. First what size do you want? Then what do you want to do with said tablet? What accessories do you want for your tablet? What is your budget? What OS do you want (perhaps you want a different OS, to experience different apps from a different ecosystem)? What sort of connectivity do you want (HDMI, 3G/4G...etc)? These all could point you to different options.
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All valid points. Very much a nexus fan. Can't put a price limit on great tech. Android os obviously. Doesn't matter which one as root and custom ROM is a must. Size doesn't matter. Haha. WiFi connectivity is fine but 3 or 4g is an option too. Really just wanted to know what the census was out there.
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Ask yourself, what you want that tablet for?
After buying mine, i find it kinda under used...

I don't need a tablet, but it would be good for the whole family, especially video call and acting as an HTPC. I've decided that it must be able to play HD videos smoothly and have physical HDMI output. This unfortunately rule out the Nexus 7 which I really like the form factor of. The Nexus 10 is overkill for my needs.
So I probably will pick up the Kindle Fire HD, but seem the rom development progress slowly and Amazon OS seems dreadful from an AOSP user. But the price point and HDMI output make it the main contender.
Maybe I'll just go for the Asus TF300T since it's only $50 more used, but I have Asia tablet in the past, good hardware but the proprietary charging port is a turn off.
I'm not ruling out Chinese tablets with rk3066 cpu as well.
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jmileti said:
Currently have PA 3.1 Galaxy Nexus. I love it. Thinking I should get a tablet. Even though I just bought a laptop. Which one though. I'm thinking nexus 10. What are your thoughts.
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I use my phone a hell lot more than I use my tablet. My nexus 7 feels like a big phone that cannot make phone calls. I have all my games on it though.
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weeo said:
Galaxy Note 10.1 or note 8.0. Software is good and so is specifications
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same here. i at least had the gn10.1 until two weeks ago. sold it and got a ATIV 500t.
i love the spen and the multiwindow is wonderful on the note. i may end up selling my nook hd+ later and get the gn8. i hate that i've become a samsung fanboy, but until someone else makes something better it's what i'll be getting. don't get me started on asus tablets quality control...
so, spen was more important than screen res for me.

Well while looking for a suitable 7" tablet, I went ahead and picked up a Kindle Fire HD and is underwhelmed even after rooting it. Unfortunately the ones on display at WorseBuy are in demonstration mode which lock down everything.. But I didn't want to spend more than $200. Other choices I looked at were:
-Nexus 7 is out of the question due to no HDMI out. I knew this device would be perfect except for this one factor.
-I could order some pretty high performance RK3066 chip Chinese tablet for under $100, but skip them because they have poor built quality, lots of people with battery and charging issues, sketchy to no warranty and probably not much development.
-Other choices available are the Nook tablet which I'm impressed with the high res screen, but quick search shows CM10 currently perform poorly on it and having to fork out $40 for an HDMI adapter.
-Same with Samsung and Asus tablets which also use proprietary ports and needing adapters purchase that I dislike.
-The Acer A110 tablet almost match with what I want with the bonus of microSD slot, except the for horrid screen quality and low resolution. There were the Lenovo tablet which seems to have nice build, but $300.
Main reason to get the Kindle Fire HD was the stereo speaker and standard usb and hdmi ports. Interestingly, this device have the same CPU spec as the Galaxy Nexus, yet the XBMC hardware accelerated test build playback movies smoother on my Nexus than this tablet which stuttered even with 720p MKV videos. This might be a deal killer, but its due to the poor optimization done by Amazon. Probably the only hope of my keeping this tablet would be for a working CM10.1 version for it. My disappoint of the performance of this device is mainly due to the software itself, the hardware are good. Its my first experience with Amazon AppStore and I think its junk compared to the PlayStore(though I know I can side load the PlayStore to this). It seem to be a wall downed garden like Apple, except in this case the interface sucks too.
I am very happy with the quality when connected to the TV however, along with stereo speakers, screen quality and front camera and mic for video calling is nice.

I have a Xoom running cm10.1-nightly now, if I would need to buy a new tablet I would go for a Nexus 10.
Multiple users is probably the best thing that has happened for Android on tablets. The only way to be guaranteed to have this feature is to buy a Nexus.
7" might be too small, but you might get used to it over time.

Well I returned the Kindle Fire HD and got the Nexus 7, naturally. Just fed up with the 'Amazon OS', and even after making my own 'fastboot cable' to be able to boot the device into fastboot mode and install TWRP, installed PlayStore, the device is still very limited and looks like there aren't much developers interested. My chance of ever buying another Amazon device is zero because of their locked down OS design. Too bad because it have a better screen, speaker and seem more durable than the Nexus 7 with hdmi out.
I also saw an Asus Memo Pad Smart 10 for $299 at the store with Tegra3 also, it use standard microUSB port and standard micro-HDMI out and microSD slot, amazing combo, its very rare to find a device with all these standard ports without all the proprietary craps. But being 10" its just not as portable and comfortable for me. I'm just getting the Nexus 7 to be sure I'm happy with the software and developer community, but I'm definitely checking on the development of this device also.

[Q] I have a Note 2, would you recommend an Android tablet as well?

I'm a big fan of Android, and I've been always working in Java, so the programming transition is kinda easy, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2, and I really like it, however, I always think on getting an Android tablet, something not expensive, 7'' with ICS 4.0 and above, but...would yo recommend to get a tablet if you already an Android phone with a "big" screen? I mean, I use my phone for mails, social network, utitilies, I have two minor apps developed for it, so I use it as a testing device as well, what do you think, isn't too repetitive to have both? I need some advices, I want a tablet, but I wouldn't end it up leaving it there doing nothing after a while, thanks!

If you feel you want a 7" tablet, i recommend you to buy the Nexus 7. Or you could just wait until a new Nexus 7 released which had been rumored coming next week in 24th July. It will have fast Android updates directly from Google. However, if you felt like 7" is small for you, you can buy the Nexus 10 or Asus Transformer Infinity. Both of them have a high range specs.
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The question is because I'd like to buy a non expensive tablet, I'm not looking for anything with the latest specs, but want to know if some of you, who has a Note 2 and also a tablet, feel like both are being used in a regular way, I wouldn't like to buy a tablet and then leave it there doing nothing, I know that every person is different, but in general, does it worth to have both devices? thanks!

saman0suke1 said:
I'm a big fan of Android, and I've been always working in Java, so the programming transition is kinda easy, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2, and I really like it, however, I always think on getting an Android tablet, something not expensive, 7'' with ICS 4.0 and above, but...would yo recommend to get a tablet if you already an Android phone with a "big" screen? I mean, I use my phone for mails, social network, utitilies, I have two minor apps developed for it, so I use it as a testing device as well, what do you think, isn't too repetitive to have both? I need some advices, I want a tablet, but I wouldn't end it up leaving it there doing nothing after a while, thanks!
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My answer is a simple NO, I have a Galaxy tab 10.1 and I hardly ever use it, personally i wouldn't need a 7Inc screen at all when owning a Note II.

I must confirm this - as you can see from my signature, I have Note II and Nexus 7, which is an excellent tablet, but I rarely use it since I got the SGNII. It is more convenient to use when I'm at home, and I do use it sometimes, but not much. Also I use it when I travel, I have to spare phone battery for emergency if I have to call etc. so another device comes in handy because of the "extra" battery
So, if you can afford it - get it, why not. But it is not necessary if you have SGNII and it is pretty much a waste of money. I have it only because my Desire HD died and then I got the Note....

The same with me. Since I own Note2 I didt play with my tablet even once. Actually I am looking to sell it. I am considering nexus7 ver 2 or even 10" but only something with a high resolution hdtv+ screen. Just to use it laying on a couch to read and watch hd movies. But really just considering this because note2 is optimal device in every aspect so far.
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saman0suke1 said:
I'm a big fan of Android, and I've been always working in Java, so the programming transition is kinda easy, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2, and I really like it, however, I always think on getting an Android tablet, something not expensive, 7'' with ICS 4.0 and above, but...would yo recommend to get a tablet if you already an Android phone with a "big" screen? I mean, I use my phone for mails, social network, utitilies, I have two minor apps developed for it, so I use it as a testing device as well, what do you think, isn't too repetitive to have both? I need some advices, I want a tablet, but I wouldn't end it up leaving it there doing nothing after a while, thanks!
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Depends on how good your eyes are. While the large screen of the Note 2 is a boon I often run into situations where text is too small for me to read without a magnifying glass, and the website that put it up won't let you zoom the screen! I used to use a 10-inch Transformer TF700, but its many problems and poor support made me give up on it. So I splurged on a Galaxy Note 8 -- just to keep things consistent -- and it makes life so much easier for these poor aging eyes.
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First of all, thanks a lot for your opinions, I know that the needs of each one of us is different, but is good to have an opinion about someone who already have both devices, I guess I'll pass, if I would really need it, I would not think about it this much, as you say, the phone is more than enough, and if I purchase the tablet, I would use it from time to time, thank you, have a nice day! :good:

I honestly don't reckon you need a tablet and a Note 2. I've had an original iPad, a Blackerry PlayBook (LOL), and a Nexus 7, but since I got the Note I haven't used any of them. Having one device is just simpler, you only have to keep info correct and updated on one thing, and it's always in your pocket. A tablet can't do anything fundamentally better than a phone, and it sure is not a laptop replacement, so for me I decided to sell the lot and stick with just the Note. In saying that, I still find myself looking at the Note 8 and the Tab 3, but I won't consider buying anything with an LCD panel any more after being spoiled with HD AMOLED, heh.

saman0suke1 said:
First of all, thanks a lot for your opinions, I know that the needs of each one of us is different, but is good to have an opinion about someone who already have both devices, I guess I'll pass, if I would really need it, I would not think about it this much, as you say, the phone is more than enough, and if I purchase the tablet, I would use it from time to time, thank you, have a nice day! :good:
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I have a Galaxy note 10.1 to complement my Note 2. I recommend the pair if you find yourself absolutely in need of a tablet for extended sessions where you might be taking extensive notes or doing diagrams. (Or watching movies for longer periods of time...)
Being able to share files by wifi on the fly is a pretty nice advantage of having the two devices.

Why buy a tablet when everything it has or do is already on your phone? I still dont see the purpose of tablets :/ i wont even exchange it for my super laggy netbook
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I have the note 2 and 8... my son took over my Asus tf300.. so got the note 8 for reading pdf... good device. . But apart from reading pdfs. ..note 2 is enough for everything else
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[Q] Are you happy with your note 10.1 (2014 Edition)

I just ordered it and I will have my paws on my Note on Monday. I am very excited but I want to know what everyone else thinks. I have gone back and forth from Android to Apple and back. I wanted to go not only Android but back to Samsung. I am looking at going to the Galaxy Note 4 when that goes on sale next month.
But really. with not having root access (yet) are you still happy with the Note 10.1?

Happy? Yes, very.
I have the P605, so am rooted without knox fuse trip.
It took me a while to choose a tablet, UK Note 10.1" 2014's are only 16GB Wifi only versions AFAIK, and for the money I was spending I wanted better specs, so I had to order a Hong Kong p605 import which allowed me to have 3g/4g and have 32GB storage (64B would have been too much $$).
I was replacing a Note 1 (n7000) so needed something that I could use as a phone too, didn't want to mess with 2 devices, tethering, etc.
The only issue I have so far is a distinct lack of accessories. I wish there was a choice of docks, cases, etc.
So yeah, other than that, very happy, it is fast and smooth and does what I need it to.
Some UK carriers don't allow tablets to be used on their networks, my 3 sim detected and rejected my p605 saying it was not allowed, but that is not really the tablets fault.

randybellis said:
I just ordered it and I will have my paws on my Note on Monday. I am very excited but I want to know what everyone else thinks. I have gone back and forth from Android to Apple and back. I wanted to go not only Android but back to Samsung. I am looking at going to the Galaxy Note 4 when that goes on sale next month.
But really. with not having root access (yet) are you still happy with the Note 10.1?
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First let me say that some people are not happy with anything, and nothing is ever perfect.
I have a stock SM-P600 32 GB and I'm very happy. I also have a Stock GT-8013 that was restored back to stock from root and my wife is happy with it also.

Had my SM-P605 LTE tablet since December and still loving it. Not rooted and with OTA updates I am at KitKat 4.4.2. I use Nova Launcher and it's smooth as butter. No issues whatsoever. Enjoy your new baby

The best tablet ever, even sale my iPad to get this one and I dont regret it. I have upgrade to KK rooted and install custom rom. ?

Am I happy with the tablet? Thats a deffo yes it is truely an awesome tablet.
Am I happy with samsung updates? Thats a different subject lol. Either way overall theres no denying this tablet is amazing but maybe I'm just a tad wierd and slightly annoyed at the way Samsung handles their updates (Still no kitkat in UK 10 months on), I keep blabbering on that this is my last samsung product but who am I kidding - nothing compares in terms of note features. Will have to wait and see haha.
Anyhoo am sure you'll love it :thumbup:
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enotar said:
The best tablet ever, even sale my iPad to get this one and I dont regret it. I have upgrade to KK rooted and install custom rom. ?
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I am doing the same thing. I wanted the galaxy tab s but did t want to spend that much money. This seems like a great tablet. Just hope the pixel quality looks better than my iPad mini.

The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.

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The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.
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If you rotate your device 180 degrees the screen rotates as well. then you can plug it in at the top and watch your movies.
I love my note, wouldn't mind an update in the UK though to KK. maybe one day?

Hong Kong 32gb p605 here, running stock 4.4.2 rooted with towel root. Very happy except for the lack of accessory options.
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The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.
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Is there a charging desk top dock for the note 10.1 2014?

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Is there a charging desk top dock for the note 10.1 2014?
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There is original dock station for our baby and also I have information from official samsung store that this one
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
also will work, still I did not test it yet.
To be in subject. I love my P605 and I hate Samsung that they did not focus more on promotion of it and there is few accessories in the market which you can get to it.
Second thing is the lack of support for many software designed for it. For example:
1. No possibility to unlock your PC(send ctrl+alt+del) when you are connect to it via Samsung Remote PC
2. Few note themes to SNotes - they could add much more
and much more.
Still it is defo worth to get it since it is still the best Tablet with Android in the market(TAB S don't have SPen and Xperia Z2 tablet is only marketing nymber1)
BR.

I have the exynos p600 and am very unhappy with it. I'm used to very fast speeds as I find on my smart phones but Samsung tablets lag way too much. Doesn't matter what specs you load them with. Touchwiz finds a way to hog it down. Tablet is decent..though build is cheap, back plate isn't even leather..its plastic made to look like leather. And the chrome..just awful. But I'm stuck with this as there a very few other android tablets worth swapping for at the moment
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I have the exynos p600 and am very unhappy with it. I'm used to very fast speeds as I find on my smart phones but Samsung tablets lag way too much. Doesn't matter what specs you load them with. Touchwiz finds a way to hog it down. Tablet is decent..though build is cheap, back plate isn't even leather..its plastic made to look like leather. And the chrome..just awful. But I'm stuck with this as there a very few other android tablets worth swapping for at the moment
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I havent had an Android tablet in a while. My last was an ASUS T300 or something. I did have an 8 inch Galaxy Tab 2 last summer. I remember it being bogged down with Touch Wiz and being kinda laggy. Does putting another launcher (example: Nova Launcher) speed things up since you arent using the touch wiz launcher?

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I havent had an Android tablet in a while. My last was an ASUS T300 or something. I did have an 8 inch Galaxy Tab 2 last summer. I remember it being bogged down with Touch Wiz and being kinda laggy. Does putting another launcher (example: Nova Launcher) speed things up since you arent using the touch wiz launcher?
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Nova helps a bit, but the Kitkat update is probably also enough already.

Sort of; great tablet, great screen, pen is a blessing for school notes and drawings, the processor is a beast and it has enough ram. Now, i dont like almost anything that samsung did with it, it is either useless, buggy, slow or too small a detail to have touchwiz for. I wish i could deal with it installing cm or any other distribution but i have the p600 model so it seems i am ****ed. Sorry if i cant give opinion of roms like hydronium and xkat but i havent tried them because they seem to be only scrambled touchwiz.
All in all, for the price i got it for(around 400$) and with so so writing apps like "write" this is one of the only tablets that let me use it as a notebook so i am mildly happy with it.
TL;DR: Tablet is great, Touchwiz is not that great. Get p605 model.

Pazzu510 said:
Sort of; great tablet, great screen, pen is a blessing for school notes and drawings, the processor is a beast and it has enough ram. Now, i dont like almost anything that samsung did with it, it is either useless, buggy, slow or too small a detail to have touchwiz for. I wish i could deal with it installing cm or any other distribution but i have the p600 model so it seems i am ****ed. Sorry if i cant give opinion of roms like hydronium and xkat but i havent tried them because they seem to be only scrambled touchwiz.
All in all, for the price i got it for(around 400$) and with so so writing apps like "write" this is one of the only tablets that let me use it as a notebook so i am mildly happy with it.
TL;DR: Tablet is great, Touchwiz is not that great. Get p605 model.
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yeah...kinda wishing I would have gotten the Tab S instead. Maybe I will sell this on Craigslist or something and get the Tab S. Who knows

Simply put, F-yea
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I'm happy with this tablet, but not happy with stupid Samsung.

Very happy with this tablet, but can't stand TouchWiz and any of the S apps.
Replace TouchWiz with either Nova or Google launcher and S apps with anything else from Google Play (example: lecture notes).
About a year after Android L comes out and we are still on kit kat, I might feel a little different.
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[Q] Tab S 10.5 for me. What should I get my 3 kids for minecraft etc

I have hesitated to ask this here but after searching for answers think it is relevant. I am going to buy the Tab S 32GB for myself after much research. I am going to get my 3 kids tablets for Christmas for Minecraft, email and texting etc. They will be used on wifi only. I would like to spend $200 for each. I think they would be best suited with smaller tablets and have looked at the Nexus 7. I see the 2013 model has 2GB ram. I have been using Samsung phones and have been rooting them mainly with stock rooted ROMs. I don't anticipate rooting the kids tabs unless the bloat and space makes it necessary. I like sd slots and removable batteries but realize they might not be necessary for the kids. If you have a Tab S or other Samsung tab, what would you get for 11 and 12 year old kids? Minecraft and YouTube are the most likely uses.
Thanks -

Nexus7 2013 is a perfect choice, no bloatware, snapdragon onboard, updates from google and from xda.

Also LG 8.3 is nice and comes at a compettitive price.
There are several physics games I like for kids,doodle physics for example.

The galaxy tab s is too fragile. 1 drop and this thing breaks! Get an galaxy tab 3 or 4 if you want a Samsung tablet. But the nexus 7 2013 is a good choice as well.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
The galaxy tab s is too fragile. 1 drop and this thing breaks! Get an galaxy tab 3 or 4 if you want a Samsung tablet. But the nexus 7 2013 is a good choice as well.
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Thanks for the replies. I was thinking Nexus 7 and your replies confirm it is solid for the use intended.

The Samsung Pro 8.4 is on sale this weekend at BB. Still has a great screen compared to most other tablets and you'll be able to link all together to share stuff with each other.
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Upgrading to the Tab S 8.4 from a Nexus 7 - who's done it?

I have owned the Nexus 7 (2013) since early 2014. It's quite nice overall although occasionally the touchscreen becomes unresponsive. It's running stock Marshmallow which is pretty nice. The only shortcoming for me is the 7" screen. I'd like a slightly larger screen but something less than 9". Either an 8 or 8.4 seems about right. I will buy a used tablet and the current 8" S2 models are still more than I want to spend so I'm thinking either a Tab S or a Tab Pro. Leaning towards the S because it's running Lollipop. Just wondering if any 8.4" Tab S owners came from the Nexus 7 and if so, are you happy you made the switch. FWIW, I mainly use it for reading books, web-surfing and a few apps e.g., NYTimes, Flixster, XDA, Facebook, YouTube. I don't play any games. Thanks.

I had a Nexus 7 2012, then a Nexus 7 2013 before coming to the Tab S 8.4. I have had my Tab S since February of last year, and loved it...until the day before yesterday when it bricked. But that is a different story...=(
The Tab S is a great tablet, and was a huge upgrade over either of the Nexus. My only complaints were 1.) the camera is far inferior to the N7 2103's, and 2.) the stock lollipop was so bloated I couldn't stand it. So I rooted it early on, and ran the stock firmware, debloated via Titanium, for well over a year. A couple months ago I switched to AOSP 6.0 because I needed to have adoptable storage. Like any tablet, it is sometimes laggy, etc. But overall the performance, for me, was top notch. I don't play games on my tablet, tho. It is mostly utilitarian for me, websites and spreadsheets, etc. for work, and watching movies and such at home.
I hope this helps.
-A.H.

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I had a Nexus 7 2012, then a Nexus 7 2013 before coming to the Tab S 8.4. I have had my Tab S since February of last year, and loved it.
I hope this helps.
-A.H.
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Yes it does. Thanks.
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Op, I am curious if you have considered the Nvidia Shield K1 tablet? In USA, the new one is now priced at 200USD. According to a lot of reviews and benchmarks, the K1 has faster internal hardware than either Tab S1 or S2, although its screen colors may be less accurate than those of both Samsung tablets.

Akopps said:
Op, I am curious if you have considered the Nvidia Shield K1 tablet?
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I have not but I'll give it a look. My impression was it's aimed at the serious gamer which I am not. Thanks.

lmacmil said:
Yes it does. Thanks.
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Don't forget to click that "Thanks" button, then. =)

amateurhack said:
Don't forget to click that "Thanks" button, then. =)
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Done!
Btw, I found your comment "Like any tablet, it is sometimes laggy" very interesting. I have noticed this both on my Nook HD (whether it was running CM11 or CM13) and to a lesser extent, on my Nexus 7 (currently on Marshmallow.) I'm not sure why that is. Sometimes when the Nook first wakes up from sleep, it is sluggish for several minutes until it "warms up." Not sure if this is due to hardware or software or both. FWIW, I never notice that kind of behavior on my Moto X phone.

I had the Nexus 7 (2012 and 2013) and the Tab Pro 8.4 before I got the S 8.4. The AMOLED screen on the S 8.4 is the best feature, so skip the Pro 8.4. Since you're used to AOSP (Nexus 7 and Moto X) you'll probably hate Touchwiz, but that's easily remedied with custom AOSP ROMS on the S 8.4. I love the S 8.4 and I don't plan on upgrading for a while. I don't play games on my phones/tablets either.
Here's a comparison the S 8.4 vs Nexus 7 2013

HKSpeed said:
I had the Nexus 7 (2012 and 2013) and the Tab Pro 8.4 before I got the S 8.4. The AMOLED screen on the S 8.4 is the best feature, so skip the Pro 8.4. Since you're used to AOSP (Nexus 7 and Moto X) you'll probably hate Touchwiz, but that's easily remedied with custom AOSP ROMS on the S 8.4. I love the S 8.4 and I don't plan on upgrading for a while. I don't play games on my phones/tablets either.
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Good info on the Tab Pro vs S. Had been looking at the Pro mainly because they are cheaper, being a little older. Since it will be mainly a reader, websurfer and YouTube video watcher, the older screen may not be a big issue for me. I just bought a Tab S 10.5 for my wife to replace her Nook HD+. I should have it on Saturday so I'll play with it some and see how Touchwiz is. You're right, I'm not a fan of the manufacturers' overlays in general. When it comes to Android, less is more, imo. I'm not averse to flashing a new ROM as long as it's pretty stable. I have only used CM on the Nooks.

lmacmil said:
Good info on the Tab Pro vs S. Had been looking at the Pro mainly because they are cheaper, being a little older. Since it will be mainly a reader, websurfer and YouTube video watcher, the older screen may not be a big issue for me. I just bought a Tab S 10.5 for my wife to replace her Nook HD+. I should have it on Saturday so I'll play with it some and see how Touchwiz is. You're right, I'm not a fan of the manufacturers' overlays in general. When it comes to Android, less is more, imo. I'm not averse to flashing a new ROM as long as it's pretty stable. I have only used CM on the Nooks.
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I forgot the Tab S has 3 GB of RAM versus 2 on the Tab Pro.

Yes. I've made a spreadsheet comparing specs. The RAM and the screen appear to be the main differences, other than the Android versions.
Sent from my Nook HD running CM13 (Android 6.0.1)

Samsung is supposed to announce the availability of the Tab S3 some time soon which means that the prices on the Tab S2 (even brand new one), should start coming down any moment now. That's just my theory.

Akopps said:
Samsung is supposed to announce the availability of the Tab S3 some time soon which means that the prices on the Tab S2 (even brand new one), should start coming down any moment now. That's just my theory.
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I'm in no hurry so I will just wait until the S3 is released. I would actually prefer the 8" to the 8.4" screen anyway so if S2 prices do come down, that would be good.

lmacmil said:
Done!
Btw, I found your comment "Like any tablet, it is sometimes laggy" very interesting. I have noticed this both on my Nook HD (whether it was running CM11 or CM13) and to a lesser extent, on my Nexus 7 (currently on Marshmallow.) I'm not sure why that is. Sometimes when the Nook first wakes up from sleep, it is sluggish for several minutes until it "warms up." Not sure if this is due to hardware or software or both. FWIW, I never notice that kind of behavior on my Moto X phone.
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I've always attributed that to background processes that sometimes wake up while you're using the device. Every "computer-type" device I've owned in the last 30+ years has had some level of lag at times. The only way to eliminate that would be to eliminate multitasking, and who wants that? I did find, after a year or so of heavy use that the lag was getting to be pretty bad, and I realized that I was always running critical on internal storage. I have the 32gb model, and I initially had a 32gb sd card, so I had plenty of storage, but the cache would almost instantaneously take up more than 1gb with all the apps I have installed. So that's why I switched to the AOSP 6.0 ROM, and I upgraded to a 128gb sd card, and adopted it all as internal storage. It hasn't eliminated the lag, but it hasn't been nearly as bad. If you look at some of my previous posts, you can see some of my history with that, if you like.
I'm also happy to say that my tab s miraculously uh-bricked itself today. Minutes ago, in fact. I am one super-happy camper at the moment.
Thanks for the thanks!

amateurhack said:
...and I upgraded to a 128gb sd card, and adopted it all as internal storage.
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I have not heard of this. Is this an Android feature or a feature added to a custom ROM?

It's a feature of Android 6, but you will need a custom ROM to enable it as it is expected that the Samsung stock 6.0 ROM will have it disabled. Just search for "adoptable storage."