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[Q] I have a Note 2, would you recommend an Android tablet as well?

I'm a big fan of Android, and I've been always working in Java, so the programming transition is kinda easy, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2, and I really like it, however, I always think on getting an Android tablet, something not expensive, 7'' with ICS 4.0 and above, but...would yo recommend to get a tablet if you already an Android phone with a "big" screen? I mean, I use my phone for mails, social network, utitilies, I have two minor apps developed for it, so I use it as a testing device as well, what do you think, isn't too repetitive to have both? I need some advices, I want a tablet, but I wouldn't end it up leaving it there doing nothing after a while, thanks!

If you feel you want a 7" tablet, i recommend you to buy the Nexus 7. Or you could just wait until a new Nexus 7 released which had been rumored coming next week in 24th July. It will have fast Android updates directly from Google. However, if you felt like 7" is small for you, you can buy the Nexus 10 or Asus Transformer Infinity. Both of them have a high range specs.
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The question is because I'd like to buy a non expensive tablet, I'm not looking for anything with the latest specs, but want to know if some of you, who has a Note 2 and also a tablet, feel like both are being used in a regular way, I wouldn't like to buy a tablet and then leave it there doing nothing, I know that every person is different, but in general, does it worth to have both devices? thanks!

saman0suke1 said:
I'm a big fan of Android, and I've been always working in Java, so the programming transition is kinda easy, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2, and I really like it, however, I always think on getting an Android tablet, something not expensive, 7'' with ICS 4.0 and above, but...would yo recommend to get a tablet if you already an Android phone with a "big" screen? I mean, I use my phone for mails, social network, utitilies, I have two minor apps developed for it, so I use it as a testing device as well, what do you think, isn't too repetitive to have both? I need some advices, I want a tablet, but I wouldn't end it up leaving it there doing nothing after a while, thanks!
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My answer is a simple NO, I have a Galaxy tab 10.1 and I hardly ever use it, personally i wouldn't need a 7Inc screen at all when owning a Note II.

I must confirm this - as you can see from my signature, I have Note II and Nexus 7, which is an excellent tablet, but I rarely use it since I got the SGNII. It is more convenient to use when I'm at home, and I do use it sometimes, but not much. Also I use it when I travel, I have to spare phone battery for emergency if I have to call etc. so another device comes in handy because of the "extra" battery
So, if you can afford it - get it, why not. But it is not necessary if you have SGNII and it is pretty much a waste of money. I have it only because my Desire HD died and then I got the Note....

The same with me. Since I own Note2 I didt play with my tablet even once. Actually I am looking to sell it. I am considering nexus7 ver 2 or even 10" but only something with a high resolution hdtv+ screen. Just to use it laying on a couch to read and watch hd movies. But really just considering this because note2 is optimal device in every aspect so far.
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saman0suke1 said:
I'm a big fan of Android, and I've been always working in Java, so the programming transition is kinda easy, I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2, and I really like it, however, I always think on getting an Android tablet, something not expensive, 7'' with ICS 4.0 and above, but...would yo recommend to get a tablet if you already an Android phone with a "big" screen? I mean, I use my phone for mails, social network, utitilies, I have two minor apps developed for it, so I use it as a testing device as well, what do you think, isn't too repetitive to have both? I need some advices, I want a tablet, but I wouldn't end it up leaving it there doing nothing after a while, thanks!
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Depends on how good your eyes are. While the large screen of the Note 2 is a boon I often run into situations where text is too small for me to read without a magnifying glass, and the website that put it up won't let you zoom the screen! I used to use a 10-inch Transformer TF700, but its many problems and poor support made me give up on it. So I splurged on a Galaxy Note 8 -- just to keep things consistent -- and it makes life so much easier for these poor aging eyes.
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First of all, thanks a lot for your opinions, I know that the needs of each one of us is different, but is good to have an opinion about someone who already have both devices, I guess I'll pass, if I would really need it, I would not think about it this much, as you say, the phone is more than enough, and if I purchase the tablet, I would use it from time to time, thank you, have a nice day! :good:

I honestly don't reckon you need a tablet and a Note 2. I've had an original iPad, a Blackerry PlayBook (LOL), and a Nexus 7, but since I got the Note I haven't used any of them. Having one device is just simpler, you only have to keep info correct and updated on one thing, and it's always in your pocket. A tablet can't do anything fundamentally better than a phone, and it sure is not a laptop replacement, so for me I decided to sell the lot and stick with just the Note. In saying that, I still find myself looking at the Note 8 and the Tab 3, but I won't consider buying anything with an LCD panel any more after being spoiled with HD AMOLED, heh.

saman0suke1 said:
First of all, thanks a lot for your opinions, I know that the needs of each one of us is different, but is good to have an opinion about someone who already have both devices, I guess I'll pass, if I would really need it, I would not think about it this much, as you say, the phone is more than enough, and if I purchase the tablet, I would use it from time to time, thank you, have a nice day! :good:
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I have a Galaxy note 10.1 to complement my Note 2. I recommend the pair if you find yourself absolutely in need of a tablet for extended sessions where you might be taking extensive notes or doing diagrams. (Or watching movies for longer periods of time...)
Being able to share files by wifi on the fly is a pretty nice advantage of having the two devices.

Why buy a tablet when everything it has or do is already on your phone? I still dont see the purpose of tablets :/ i wont even exchange it for my super laggy netbook
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I have the note 2 and 8... my son took over my Asus tf300.. so got the note 8 for reading pdf... good device. . But apart from reading pdfs. ..note 2 is enough for everything else
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Should I Get a Tab 3 10.1?

Hey guys, I currently have a MacBook Air 11, and I am looking for a tablet that I can use for when I don't wanna pull out my Macbook.
I am trying to spend less than $300. So I can get a refurbished Tab 3 10.1 for $225. However I can also get the first Galaxy Note 10.1(first edition) for $250.
I also can get an iPad 3rd gen for about $275.
So I am a bit conflicted. I just want something cheap that I can browse the internet on, play a few games, and use SmartGlass for my XboxOne

If look around get a nexus 10 for under 300 or nexus 7, if not just go with refurbished one
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ivcesar said:
If look around get a nexus 10 for under 300 or nexus 7, if not just go with refurbished one
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Would the Nexus 10 be better than the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1?

Depends what your users are going to be. Being you have a Mac, I say go with iPad (as much as I hate saying that). You already have apple asps and usernames that would make it easier for you.
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NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
Depends what your users are going to be. Being you have a Mac, I say go with iPad (as much as I hate saying that). You already have apple asps and usernames that would make it easier for you.
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Well I do have a Macbook, and an iPhone 5. But I am trying to get out of the apple ecosystem.
I'm going to get an android phone when my upgrade is up.
Basically my uses are going to be: Using while I'm in bed, on the couch to mainly surf the web, email, play a few games here and there, and use for SmartGlass for my Xbox. If it's anything more than that, I'll just use my Macbook.

Shakenbake158 said:
Well I do have a Macbook, and an iPhone 5. But I am trying to get out of the apple ecosystem.
I'm going to get an android phone when my upgrade is up.
Basically my uses are going to be: Using while I'm in bed, on the couch to mainly surf the web, email, play a few games here and there, and use for SmartGlass for my Xbox. If it's anything more than that, I'll just use my Macbook.
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I think it is wise to switch as long as you've done your research first. It can be expensive switching ecosystems, but Android tends to be much cheaper that iOS from what I've witnessed at least. But that is only part of what makes Android wonderful. As for the Tab 3 10.1, right now, I'm struggling because I wanted it to have user switching. That's something supported by Jellybean, but alas, Samsung has omitted it from this build. So I've been searching everywhere for custom ROMs but it seems that no one is developing for it because it runs on Intel and people aren't used to that structure just yet. All I can do it root is and tweak things here and there, but not what I want it to, so my point of view is a little skewed toward dislike.
If you have the funds, I would recommend the Nexus 10 32GB. Unfortunately, Nexus devices don't have microSD expansion like the Galaxy devices, but it has all the features it should and it would be easy to find custom development for it once you get bored with the stock UI.

TBH I personally would NOT recommend you buying the tab 3 10.1. I'd rather buy a Nexus 7 2013 or a Nexus 10 or a LG Gpad 8.3.
thsi is because of the silly Intel processor within the tab and Android not really cooperating with it.
You'll be better off running an ARM processor.
Just my 2 cents. Hope you enjoy whatever tablet you buy.
And as much as I dislike Windows 8 it works well on tablets. So that is also a good choice IMO
Good luck !
Nitro

I have the tab 3 10.1 and it's a pretty good tablet. There's nothing so far about it that I don't like, BUT the resolution.

samgamgee84 said:
I think it is wise to switch as long as you've done your research first. It can be expensive switching ecosystems, but Android tends to be much cheaper that iOS from what I've witnessed at least. But that is only part of what makes Android wonderful. As for the Tab 3 10.1, right now, I'm struggling because I wanted it to have user switching. That's something supported by Jellybean, but alas, Samsung has omitted it from this build. So I've been searching everywhere for custom ROMs but it seems that no one is developing for it because it runs on Intel and people aren't used to that structure just yet. All I can do it root is and tweak things here and there, but not what I want it to, so my point of view is a little skewed toward dislike.
If you have the funds, I would recommend the Nexus 10 32GB. Unfortunately, Nexus devices don't have microSD expansion like the Galaxy devices, but it has all the features it should and it would be easy to find custom development for it once you get bored with the stock UI.
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Well I don't need the user switching, I mean this is just going to be a device that I use when I am not using my Macbook for fun or leisure. It wont be something that I rely on.
How would you say the tegra 3 compares to the intel chip in the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1?
Nitro_123 said:
TBH I personally would NOT recommend you buying the tab 3 10.1. I'd rather buy a Nexus 7 2013 or a Nexus 10 or a LG Gpad 8.3.
thsi is because of the silly Intel processor within the tab and Android not really cooperating with it.
You'll be better off running an ARM processor.
Just my 2 cents. Hope you enjoy whatever tablet you buy.
And as much as I dislike Windows 8 it works well on tablets. So that is also a good choice IMO
Good luck !
Nitro
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How much faster is the Nexus 7 2013 going to be than the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1? I am considering the Nexus 7 now possibly.
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I have the tab 3 10.1 and it's a pretty good tablet. There's nothing so far about it that I don't like, BUT the resolution.
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Do you think it would be a good first device to dive into android with?
Thank you all for replying.

I had a dell streak 7 and it had a poor following for development, but I used it enough to know my next tab would be a 10 inch.(7 inch Too Small) I just got this tab 3, and it is killer. It doesn't have any custom ROMS that are drastically different that stock, Still...it is running the newest version of Jelly Bean, and really doesn't need "upgrading" It is so snappy and fast, I am tickled to death with it. I love the stock OS, and I figure by the time I get bored with it Cyanogen Mod will be available for it. Of course my view is also skewed because I was struggling with a Dell Streak 7 (slowpoke) before I got my Tab 3. I also enjoy (watching) the developers forum for this device, it's very entertaining because they discover new things about this tablet every day it seems. That stuff is mostly over my head right now, but I hope to learn more, so I can contribute in the future. Good luck with your choice...I just love mine.

I just bought a Tab 3 10.1 from Amazon last week. I also purchased a leather case with Bluetooth keyboard to go with it. The order total was 311 for me and well worth it. I also have a Galaxy s4.
I think if you are looking to switch to the Android ecosystem I would recommend setting up a Google account now if you do not have one already. The one thing I like about Google and the android environment is the built in cloud environment.
I am on my 4th Android phone and first tablet and have never had to transfer or backup contacts, settings or files. I log into the new device it automatically downloads the settings wallpaper and apps I use. The contacts are stored in the Google account on Google servers. I have seen even the most experienced iDevice users try to mimic this seamless integration but fall short (though not impossible).
My only advice in order to make sure you never have to back up files and pictures (with caution) is to utilize Google drive if you do not already.
When I first moved to Android from Blackberry the selling point was that my contacts are stored in my Google account. Saved my life many times.
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Well guys, I went to BestBuy to check out the tablets.
I looked at the Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 and 10.1, Note 8.0 and 10.1 and the Nexus 7.
The two tabs seemed a bit sluggish when getting in and out of apps, and the load times in chrome were a little slower compared to the Notes.
The Note 10.1 is the perfect device for me, I absolutely loved it, but it's way out of my price range. But I also loved the Note 8.0.
The Nexus 7 seemed nice too, but it was in some demo mode so I couldn't actually open apps and such.
How does the Note 8.0 compare to the Nexus 7? At this point I think I like the Note 8.0 more, purely based on form factor.
Edit: How much faster is the Note 8.0 than the Tab 3?
Also how does the Note 8.0 compare to the original Note 10.1?

As far as I am concerned NO MORE SAMSUNG. Samsung just doesn't support…update the system on any of their tabs. I am selling my Galaxy 10.1 note today and getting something else. Sold my S4 and got a nexus 5 and am very happy.

deserthi said:
As far as I am concerned NO MORE SAMSUNG. Samsung just doesn't support…update the system on any of their tabs. I am selling my Galaxy 10.1 note today and getting something else. Sold my S4 and got a nexus 5 and am very happy.
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Well that is interesting.
If you had to recommend me a tablet, what would you recommend? Other than the Nexus 7.

I'd Recommend the LG Gpad 8.3 Google Play Edition as it has a slightly bigger screen.
I do NOT recommend Samsung devices as they have a CRAP LOAD of bloatware installed. Quite a few of those things run constantly using up RAM/CPU and eating battery life and in return, they give nothing.
I'd rather have an AOSP based ROM without the 'goodies' than a stock ROM with them.
I've owned 4 samsung devices so I think I can speak for them
This is my skightly skewed opinion. you should decide what you buy. We are just giving you advice
MY advice would be to purchase a google play edition device/ Nexus device as I find them the best in terms of everything

Nitro_123 said:
I'd Recommend the LG Gpad 8.3 Google Play Edition as it has a slightly bigger screen.
I do NOT recommend Samsung devices as they have a CRAP LOAD of bloatware installed. Quite a few of those things run constantly using up RAM/CPU and eating battery life and in return, they give nothing.
I'd rather have an AOSP based ROM without the 'goodies' than a stock ROM with them.
I've owned 4 samsung devices so I think I can speak for them
This is my skightly skewed opinion. you should decide what you buy. We are just giving you advice
MY advice would be to purchase a google play edition device/ Nexus device as I find them the best in terms of everything
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Well maybe I should just get the Nexus 7.
I can't seem to find a Google Play G Pad in my price range :/

Did you get the Nexus 7? I was going to until I found that some of the 2013 model had screen/hardware and touchscreen issues. My wife has the gtab 2 10.1 which I put cm 4.3 and a custom overclocked kernal on and it runs smooth and quick. After using it a while I wanted something a bit smaller for myself and settled on the gtab 3 8.0. I like the size much better and the screen is plenty big and bright. It is quick and responsive with the stock rom. There is some development happening for it including an overclocked kernal and I am waiting patiently for a stable rom.
If you bought the Nexus, let us know how it is. I hope it's one of the good ones.

[Q] How easy will it be for AOSP rom makers to develop for the new Note 10.1?

Hi guys,
I have completely ditched Samsung after letting me down with the first Galaxy Note.
They did not open source their drivers at the time of ICS. So the devs could not get project butter to run.
So we were stuck with using Samsung roms if you wanted any buttery smoothness.
It has been a long time and I have only used Nexus devices since.
How is Samsung doing now?
Did they come around? Are they open sourcing their drivers?
Is the CM team for example going to be able to fully support the Note 10.1 Exynos processor?
Cheers,
Daan

I hope so the rise this will be my last Samsung product
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hashcheck said:
I hope so the rise this will be my last Samsung product
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Is your Note 3 supported by AOSP rom makers?

I didn't find the butter back then. My Huawei Pad had less free ram, in order to buffer more screen contents, methinks, but nothing got smoother.
But I should have considered the situation on the Note about custom roms, before buying one.
Will take a look, for academic reasons, whether Experia Tablet Z owners have custom roms, that was number two on my list, and cheaper.

This is currently the best tablet on the market. Why cripple it with an AOSP ROM? Is there something I'm missing here?

¿Will-it-Blend? said:
This is currently the best tablet on the market. Why cripple it with an AOSP ROM? Is there something I'm missing here?
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Well, I hate touchwiz with a burning passion. I'd much rather it be closer to stock Android. The pen should still work, as it works with the Note 3, so you won't loose any functionality.

¿Will-it-Blend? said:
This is currently the best tablet on the market. Why cripple it with an AOSP ROM? Is there something I'm missing here?
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Cripple it? No, you will improve the device and any of the functionality that you think you are losing is equaled or improved on with other apps once you are rooted.
My S4 is significantly better after installing Kit Kat vs. Touchwiz. I am undecided on rooting my tab 10.1 2014 due to some security requirements.

AMG_Roadster said:
Cripple it? No, you will improve the device and any of the functionality that you think you are losing is equaled or improved on with other apps once you are rooted.
My S4 is significantly better after installing Kit Kat vs. Touchwiz. I am undecided on rooting my tab 10.1 2014 due to some security requirements.
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That's the thing... you will waste so much time trying to get back the functionality the tablet already has out of the box that it's not worth it. I have CM 11 on my S3 becuase is makes more sense on a phone, but on this tablet with the features it offers you're just wasting the potential of this device. When I pay $600 for something I want everything working and working correctly (excluding some of the S-features) sounds like a Nexus 10 would have been a better fit for you.

¿Will-it-Blend? said:
That's the thing... you will waste so much time trying to get back the functionality the tablet already has out of the box that it's not worth it. I have CM 11 on my S3 becuase is makes more sense on a phone, but on this tablet with the features it offers you're just wasting the potential of this device. When I pay $600 for something I want everything working and working correctly (excluding some of the S-features) sounds like a Nexus 10 would have been a better fit for you.
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I got tired of waiting for the Nexus 10 2. It was my first choice of tablet with the rumored specs. In favor of the Note 2014 - it is on the market now, it was a price I was happy with and it has an SD slot which the Nexus would not. Plus if you want a 10" tablet it is really the only Android option right now. Is it perfect or my ideal tablet? No, clearly not.
Also to your point concerning price. I am with you - the tablet is not worth $600 to me. However I picked up the 32gb version through the Groupon deal. For $420 I think I am satisfied enough to keep it (still making that determination). Or at least I do not regret spending the money.
I am not a big gamer nor am I trying to do any coding on the tablet but to me the Note 2014 comes pretty close to being a laptop replacement. It is not all the way there but I can now travel, attend meetings, etc. without feeling too handicapped if I do not have my laptop with me.
What little I have read on the subject it sounds like rooting this tablet is pretty easy and then just a couple of apps to expand the stock functionality. Hell, I will probably spend more time trying to setup the tablet the way I want through Touchwiz, Nova, or another launcher than if I simply rooted it.

AMG_Roadster said:
I got tired of waiting for the Nexus 10 2. It was my first choice of tablet with the rumored specs. In favor of the Note 2014 - it is on the market now, it was a price I was happy with and it has an SD slot which the Nexus would not. Plus if you want a 10" tablet it is really the only Android option right now. Is it perfect or my ideal tablet? No, clearly not.
Also to your point concerning price. I am with you - the tablet is not worth $600 to me. However I picked up the 32gb version through the Groupon deal. For $420 I think I am satisfied enough to keep it (still making that determination). Or at least I do not regret spending the money.
I am not a big gamer nor am I trying to do any coding on the tablet but to me the Note 2014 comes pretty close to being a laptop replacement. It is not all the way there but I can now travel, attend meetings, etc. without feeling too handicapped if I do not have my laptop with me.
What little I have read on the subject it sounds like rooting this tablet is pretty easy and then just a couple of apps to expand the stock functionality. Hell, I will probably spend more time trying to setup the tablet the way I want through Touchwiz, Nova, or another launcher than if I simply rooted it.
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Root your note and install Clean ROM. Problem solved.

¿Will-it-Blend? said:
Root your note and install Clean ROM. Problem solved.
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You are right it would be problem solved. Unfortunately I need an "unmolested" tablet for some of the networks/systems I connect to. A rooted tablet will trip security warnings and will be blocked.

Guys, guys, guys! This thread was marked as a [Q]!
It has gone completely off topic.
Those with S4's, S3's and newer Notes, how is your experience with AOSP roms?
Is it easy for open source devs to develop for them?
It doesn't matter who likes what, or why you can't root because of security issues.
The question is: will it be easy to develop non touchwiz Roms.

DaanJordaan said:
Guys, guys, guys! This thread was marked as a [Q]!
It has gone completely off topic.
Those with S4's, S3's and newer Notes, how is your experience with AOSP roms?
Is it easy for open source devs to develop for them?
It doesn't matter who likes what, or why you can't root because of security issues.
The question is: will it be easy to develop non touchwiz Roms.
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The answer will be no. The device is very expense and will not get much support in general. Also there seems to very little supoort for the Note 3 with the Exynos Octa. As others have stated I do not see the reason for wanting AOSP on a Note device. You will lose almost all support for the pen and pen specific apps since the cost is so high for the device it seems a waste to not use the pen.

[Q] Is this device worth buying now?

Hi.
I currently own a Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012) and unfortunately I woke it up during lunch and was surprised to find that the screen now hates black and now it displays things incorrectly. It's still usable but ugly to look at. So I've read some reviews and it seems that the battery life is much worse and it's laggy even with 8 cores. So after more than 6 months, is this cellphone/tablet worth it now? I prefer the 10 inch notes for random sketching though but I normally do my art with a real Wacom tablet. I'm thinking of either suffering until the release of the next Galaxy Note 10.1 or possibly jump at Asus Transformer Book V or just jumping to the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I mainly just use my tablet for Internet and drawing on Sketchbook Pro.

If you are normal with a life and don't sit around all day and pick at everything , This tablet is the best out there for the money,,I have had mine since Dec 21013 and had no issues , I'm rooted and its stupid fast and does everything, Don't listen to the reviews on this tab, most of the bad ones are IPad goons and people with way too much time on their hands.
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best Android tablet right now — better than the Asus/Tegra offering, with higher res and functionality than Sony's Xperia Z2 Tab. can't beat the SPen. only gripe is the Sammy Book cover is crazy expensive.

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Only gripe is the Sammy Book Cover is crazy expensive.
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It's still not "cheap", but I've bought a genuine one from Amazon for $39 (better than the $70 MSRP).

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It's still not "cheap", but I've bought a genuine one from Amazon for $39 (better than the $70 MSRP).
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you're lucky ... ordered mine through Amazon (.ca), but the only places that would ship to Canada started around $60. crazy thing is that it's not stocked at BestBuy or FutureShop here, even though they sell the tablet.

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ship to Canada
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Doh! Didn't see the Maple Leaf the first time. I've always wondered that if a "friend" sends something like that (mine came in just a regular 8x10-ish packing envelope) to you in Canada, how closely would HM Customs examine it, and if the shipping would be crazy expensive?
Too bad about Best Buy- ours here have them (at MSRP, though).

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Doh! Didn't see the Maple Leaf the first time. I've always wondered that if a "friend" sends something like that (mine came in just a regular 8x10-ish packing envelope) to you in Canada, how closely would HM Customs examine it, and if the shipping would be crazy expensive?
Too bad about Best Buy- ours here have them (at MSRP, though).
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if it's a "gift", we are allowed up to a certain amount, but that designation depends on the seller (eBay peeps can be accommodating). sometimes i'll get stuff shipped to Point Roberts, just across the border, and then take a drive and roll the dice with the border guard. i've had $700 phones and gear sent that way, and have lucked out.
you Americans get all the good stuff! the black version of the P600 hasn't even been released yet here. and probably won't be ...
gotta say, i really dig the Official Book Cover. slim, and still shows off the design of the tablet, with just enough protection for the screen (not using any film or tempered glass on the screen.

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Gotta say, i really dig the Official Book Cover
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I've always wondered that if a "friend" sends something like that ...?
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... if it's a "gift", we are allowed up to a certain amount
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PM me, if you'd like.

If you want to root while keeping warranty, I suggest NOT buying this tablet.
I just bought it and regretted it due to the above. I don't install custom ROM, but I need root for Xposed (unrestricted Multiview), debloat (seems very necessary for Samsung devices) and back up (Helium and Titanium Backup).

Don't spread misinformation- you can get root w/o tripping Knox nor voiding your warranty.

kcrudup said:
Don't spread misinformation- you can get root w/o tripping Knox nor voiding your warranty.
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For Wifi version?! I know there is one for 3G/LTE with TowelRoot, but but not Wifi version. CF Root for Wifi will trip KNOX.
If there is, please do share. I'd love to root my tablet.

I have Wifi and I'm rooted and Knox is 0x0
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
I have Wifi and I'm rooted and Knox is 0x0
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Well, can you share the link how to do this? Then maybe you can ask mod to update the FAQ, since as of today, there is NO root for KK for Wifi without tripping KNOX.
Here's the FAQ: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723420
Here's the CF root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805

Let's play nice...
I would say yes to buying. On the neg for me I root and custom rom all Android devices I own and got mine this weekend not having read this forum. It came with 4.4.2 so I can only root but cannot do a custom recovery for a custom rom as some here have had theirs longer than I.
Don't know if any love will come for the 442 but if root is not your concern it is a sweet device. I know without a custom rom I am missing another level that they offer.

parcou said:
Let's play nice...
I would say yes to buying. On the neg for me I root and custom rom all Android devices I own and got mine this weekend not having read this forum. It came with 4.4.2 so I can only root but cannot do a custom recovery for a custom rom as some here have had theirs longer than I.
Don't know if any love will come for the 442 but if root is not your concern it is a sweet device. I know without a custom rom I am missing another level that they offer.
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I am playing nice - I gave OP info about root just in case he wants to do so.
However, I was "accused" of spreading mis-information by @kcrudup and @GalaxyNotesTx. If I gave wrong info, correct me by providing the link to rooting Wifi version without tripping KNOX, and I'll fix my post.
FYI: I just got this tablet yesterday and have been searching XDA and Googling other forums and sites - no root without tripping KNOX for wifi version. So I don't want OP to be as disappointed as me IF he/she wants root.

After my Note 3 and Moto G was stolen ,, i bought LG G Pro Lite Dual and thinking on getting a tablet for Games Movies and all kind of entertainment ,,, for a week now i was reading and watching all reviews and i can't choose between the Note 10.1 2014 Edition and Tab S 10.5
The Note 10.1 2014 is already available for a good price the 3G version will cost me around 550USD while the Tab S isn't here yet and don't know it's price but for sure it will be more expensive
so do you advice getting the Note 10.1 2014 or shall i wait for the Tab S ??!!

MohamedYousri said:
After my Note 3 and Moto G was stolen ,, i bought LG G Pro Lite Dual and thinking on getting a tablet for Games Movies and all kind of entertainment ,,, for a week now i was reading and watching all reviews and i can't choose between the Note 10.1 2014 Edition and Tab S 10.5
The Note 10.1 2014 is already available for a good price the 3G version will cost me around 550USD while the Tab S isn't here yet and don't know it's price but for sure it will be more expensive
so do you advice getting the Note 10.1 2014 or shall i wait for the Tab S ??!!
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I think it depends on whether you need the S-pen or not. I've looked at the Tab S, but I need the pen.
Plus, the Note is only $459 at Amazon, so it's cheaper.

lanwarrior said:
I think it depends on whether you need the S-pen or not. I've looked at the Tab S, but I need the pen.
Plus, the Note is only $459 at Amazon, so it's cheaper.
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Can't get it throw Amazon here in Egypt so i have to get it from any local store ,, i used Note 2 and Note 3 but i can't say that i use the SPen that much ,, it's a great addition indeed but holding 2 phones in my hand before prevented me from using the SPen
the main issue that the Tab S will be out of my budget fore sure but if it worth it then i will try to get one whenever it's here also they almost identical in specifications except for the screen Super LCD Vs. Super AMOLED
I guess for sure that Samsung will update all this devices for Android L so i don't have to worry about it
I would prefer to get the Snapdragon version but it's a quit rare in common and hard to get so i have to stick to the Exynos although i prefer the Snapdragon
So what do you think ?!

fvig2001 said:
Hi.
I currently own a Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012) and unfortunately I woke it up during lunch and was surprised to find that the screen now hates black and now it displays things incorrectly. It's still usable but ugly to look at. So I've read some reviews and it seems that the battery life is much worse and it's laggy even with 8 cores. So after more than 6 months, is this cellphone/tablet worth it now? I prefer the 10 inch notes for random sketching though but I normally do my art with a real Wacom tablet. I'm thinking of either suffering until the release of the next Galaxy Note 10.1 or possibly jump at Asus Transformer Book V or just jumping to the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. I mainly just use my tablet for Internet and drawing on Sketchbook Pro.
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Yes, or perhaps the 12" if that would work for you. I think the 2014 Note is still the best 10 " option available
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MohamedYousri said:
Can't get it throw Amazon here in Egypt so i have to get it from any local store ,, i used Note 2 and Note 3 but i can't say that i use the SPen that much ,, it's a great addition indeed but holding 2 phones in my hand before prevented me from using the SPen
the main issue that the Tab S will be out of my budget fore sure but if it worth it then i will try to get one whenever it's here also they almost identical in specifications except for the screen Super LCD Vs. Super AMOLED
I guess for sure that Samsung will update all this devices for Android L so i don't have to worry about it
I would prefer to get the Snapdragon version but it's a quit rare in common and hard to get so i have to stick to the Exynos although i prefer the Snapdragon
So what do you think ?!
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There is also the 10" Note Pro, Which is Cheaper than the s.

Note10.1Dude said:
Yes, or perhaps the 12" if that would work for you. I think the 2014 Note is still the best 10 " option available
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There is also the 10" Note Pro, Which is Cheaper than the s.
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Why do you recommend the Galaxy Tab Pro ? comparing to Note 10.1 2014 they are both identical but you got the SPen and more 1GB of RAM so i guess the Note 10.1 2014 is better than Galaxy Tab Pro and maybe cheaper also

[Question] Is it still worth getting the note 10.1 2014 edition?

Hey everyone,
I really need a good tablet for home multimedia consumption and maybe college. I could get either version: SM-P600 or the 605.
Should I still purchase the note even though it's so old, I am kinda iffy because of the discontinued software updates etc?
What is the latest security patch?
Or, is there any other tablet with stylus that would be better?
I looked at the new Zenpad from Asus.
Would anyone be kind enough to help me? Thanks

It is still on android 5.1.1. There was a recent update and security patch is sept 2016 i think. Great tablet though but a tad too expensive. If you dont have much use for the spen i would suggest a different tablet. Rom dev for this device is pretty active but i have stayed stock since i bought it.
Not sure what ur budget is. I would suggest sticking to mainstream brands. With asus i am not sure of dev support on xda or update support from asus themselves.
On a side note, nokia seems to be preparing to launch a new android tablet.
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Thanks for your help. Which model would you suggest getting 605 or 600? I wouldn't mind spending 500 for a brand new device. The s-pen would be very useful for me. I absolutely love the stylus and the abilities it gives you. Do you think I could still work with the 10.1 for 2 years?

Benzema9 said:
Thanks for your help. Which model would you suggest getting 605 or 600? I wouldn't mind spending 500 for a brand new device. The s-pen would be very useful for me. I absolutely love the stylus and the abilities it gives you. Do you think I could still work with the 10.1 for 2 years?
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Are you planning on installing a custom ROM? Not sure if the 605 you are looking at has an unlocked bootloader. That might make up your decision.
IMO, I would not spend $500 on the P600 becaues it is indeed 2 years old. I chose to get a second hand one a few weeks ago for a pretty good price (~$150). At that price, its a decent tablet but you can kind of tell it is getting a little old. With CM13 installed, there's new life in the tablet. Noticeably faster and mSD as internal storage are huge.
If s-pen is not a deal breaker, that Zenbook from Asus is nice. Is it 64GB/4GB?

Sorry I didn't express myself clear enough lol
I meant I would spend $500 on a new tablet. I would only dish out $200 for the note 10.1.
Yes, it's this one: ASUS Zenpad Z500M-C1-GR. It has stylus support as well. Unfortunately it's sold out on Amazon

I would recommend the Nvidia Shield K1 it's around 200 bucks. Good specs, xda area is filled with nice roms and works in progress. However it's a 8 inches tablet and has about 6000 mah capacity, the K1 versions doesn't have the stylus pen nor the charger included but you can buy the pen for about 10-20 bucks and you probably already have a charger.
The note 2014 have nice specs even in late 2016, but it's in shadows because of Samsung's bad support and woeful software, the oem roms are basically mandatory if you want the S-pen functions, the CM roms are maintained by some nice folks in the forum but they aren't still 100% yet and you loose yer S-pen functions (I'm aware of a specific app that can help restoring the S-pen functions, but its not 100%).
So I would recommend you to stay away from the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014.

had mine for 3 years now and its working perfectly and meets all my tablet needs, the best bit being the superb screen and I see no need to upgrade it
would I buy it now if I needed a tablet? at a reasonable price definitely yes...if you are an avid tablet gamer (im not) then I would consider one with more graphics power
but this tablet is still more than holding its own ...im on my 5th case! and its still immaculate

I'm very happy of how long this tablet has lasted me.
For a while there, when on the ok1 firmware (XAR), I couldn't install or update apps. It would reboot almost every time. I was considering getting a tabpro s (Windows10) as a replacement, but pulled the trigger on a gaming laptop instead.
With the latest update, everything is working great again. Not even rooted. Don't need to be. It may not be marshmallow, but getting support for literally 3 years since launch isn't bad. With no replacement/successor for the N10.1 2014 rumored, we may (probably not) get marshmallow before they fully kill support for this beast.
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If you can get one for a good price, I think it's still a very good tablet.
I dropped mine and shattered the screen a few months ago. Because if the way it is built, you cannot just replace the glass. The whole screen and digitizer is one unit. So, since there was no real other 10-inch tablet with the screen resolution and the S Pen support that the Note 10.1 has, I ended up buying a used one on eBay to replace it.
I am using mine everyday, and I use the S Pen all the time to take notes. It's replaced a paper notebook for me.
I had the opportunity to work with a Surface Pro tablet at work, and although it is a great machine, and it can replace a laptop, I found it a bit too big and heavy to use as a notebook replacement to take notes. I still carry my tablet everywhere with me.