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[Discussion] kitkat update to low end devices

while surfing I found this http://www.crazyengineers.com/threads/your-low-end-device-might-get-kit-kat-4-4-update.70812/
it says galaxy y night (it's only nominated) to get the update.
It was said that android 4.4 is optimized to consume little memory and work in low end devices
I an mot sure this is real but I aslso found it in another websites
1 .http://www.google.com.eg/url?sa=t&r...=z15BANBHOrnXjt-gIknHyQ&bvm=bv.53217764,d.bGE
2.http://crocksz.com/index.php/nominated-galaxy-devices-android-4-4-kitkat/

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this is advance joke for the new year 2014...

imElectronica said:
this is advance joke for the new year 2014...
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Mostly it is a joke but google said kitkat will be optimized to work in low end devices smoothly. so , let's just wait
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Nice joke by Google but if may it is real!! Then Samsung never give us that update!!
& I think kitkat also required 512 mb Rom !! Ok let 400 mb...... Ok low end device..... Lets take 300mb!!
But or phone have only 240 mb Rom !! So its very difficult to get that!! Coz I think Rom can't be increase by partition !! If it happens that every phone gets every update for latest android version.
Lets wait for our galaxy y / duos R.I.P 's day and then buy a high end device!! :'(

if this is not fake..then i am waiting for new update nd so exciated also.

imElectronica said:
if this is not fake..then i am waiting for new update nd so exciated also.
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Get excited about learning English too.

Ok!! Now I also view other two links!!
Dude!! There is far difference between y / y duos and young / young duos!!
Galaxy Young is a new series phone having 4.1 android , 756 mb ram , 512mb Rom, amrv7 processor!!
Not our y duos/y !! :'( :-[
So, please don't sit with any hope.... I don't wanna to disappoint u but...... What ever lets wait!!

thewarlord said:
Nice joke by Google but if may it is real!! Then Samsung never give us that update!!
& I think kitkat also required 512 mb Rom !! Ok let 400 mb...... Ok low end device..... Lets take 300mb!!
But or phone have only 240 mb Rom !! So its very difficult to get that!! Coz I think Rom can't be increase by partition !! If it happens that every phone gets every update for latest android version.
Lets wait for our galaxy y / duos R.I.P 's day and then buy a high end device!! :'(
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thewarlord said:
Ok!! Now I also view other two links!!
Dude!! There is far difference between y / y duos and young / young duos!!
Galaxy Young is a new series phone having 4.1 android , 756 mb ram , 512mb Rom, amrv7 processor!!
Not our y duos/y !! :'( :-[
So, please don't sit with any hope.... I don't wanna to disappoint u but...... What ever lets wait!!
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Very realistic , but it is better than putting hope on something that may not happened , also , they said galaxy y (or young) whatever , is nominated to get the update but not confirmed , so I agree with with you bro :thumbup:
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Its for galaxy young dude...its packed with 4.1
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Btw why is the thread tagged with [update]?
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Xicor Yagami said:
Get excited about learning English too.
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Ignore such spelling mistakes sir.........motivate the talent of a talented and not his mistakes......

Plz read this Article http://www.androidrootguide.com/2013/09/kit-kat-4-4-new-release-android-operating-system.html
There are written something that " the android 4.4 has Linux kernel 3.8 which support to low memory device below Ram 512".

Pardon me for typo, It's not Samsung Y (GT-S5360) which will get update of KitKat, as it is very low in memory : Just 289 MB.
New Samsung Young (S6312) which is shipped with 4.1.2 stock ROM, will get update of KitKat 4.4 .
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Knew it couldn't be our Galaxy Young but the new model (S6310/S6312) that recently came out.

I guess by saying that it will consume less menory google meant that more ram will be available for other apps. And comparing our device in the latest low end devices list we can find that its not comparable. Bitter Truth.
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finger crossed guys :fingers-crossed:

Its good to be optimistic but there are limits for everything.
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Face the facts. This WON'T happend.
A good analogy is: Trying to install windows 8 on a machine running Windows 95... End rant and bury this topic.
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JasoX said:
Face the facts. This WON'T happend.
A good analogy is: Trying to install windows 8 on a machine running Windows 95... End rant and bury this topic.
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The developers booted 4.2 on htc dream , nothing is impossible , don't compare windows and android , android is open source and highly customizable , we may get the update or no , but we can compile the new CM to our phone (theoreticaly possible) but we lack drivers.
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mohamedrashad said:
The developers booted 4.2 on htc dream , nothing is impossible , don't compare windows and android , android is open source and highly customizable , we may get the update or no , but we can compile the new CM to our phone (theoreticaly possible) but we lack drivers.
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The lack of drivers is due to the fact of the drivers it self being closed source. Eventhough you could get your hands on the drivers and getting 4.x booted up on a Y, it still does not mean that Google will make it run on legacy devices. My analogy was flawless, it was nothing to do with open or closed source, but the fact that trying to install a operating system on a device which clearly lacks the hardware to be able run the operating system. In other words, it is not possible. Sure the CM team or another hacker team might be able to incorporate some of the 4.x functions but it won't be the full 4.x.
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Possibilities are:
Low end devices like GT-S5360 will get Android 4.4 KitKat. I heard that Google is working to Android to eliminate OS fragmentation. So if they will be able to make the newer version of Android to be compatible with devices 5 or more years older, then that will help the adoption rate of newer Android versions faster.
We all know that Samsung does not have a good reputation (but not the worst as well) when it comes to giving updates to their devices. Even flagship devices have delays getting Android version updates. To cut it short, even if KitKat will be available for GT-S5360, we have a small chance of getting it from Samsung. We need individual developers to work on it to bring it to GT-S5360. Remember, Galaxy Young is just one in a hundred of low and mid ranged devices released by Samsung. They may not bother to make Android 4.4 available for GT-S5360, but there is still hope. Galaxy Young is only 2 years old. 3 more years before this device reach it's EOL (End Of Life).
Patience is a virtue but don't keep your hopes high. You better accept the fact that this device may never ever ever ever get any android update from Samsung. If they do, then rejoice. If they don't, at least you ain't gonna cry like a baby

CarlDeanCatabay said:
Possibilities are:
Low end devices like GT-S5360 will get Android 4.4 KitKat. I heard that Google is working to Android to eliminate OS fragmentation. So if they will be able to make the newer version of Android to be compatible with devices 5 or more years older, then that will help the adoption rate of newer Android versions faster.
We all know that Samsung does not have a good reputation (but not the worst as well) when it comes to giving updates to their devices. Even flagship devices have delays getting Android version updates. To cut it short, even if KitKat will be available for GT-S5360, we have a small chance of getting it from Samsung. We need individual developers to work on it to bring it to GT-S5360. Remember, Galaxy Young is just one in a hundred of low and mid ranged devices released by Samsung. They may not bother to make Android 4.4 available for GT-S5360, but there is still hope. Galaxy Young is only 2 years old. 3 more years before this device reach it's EOL (End Of Life).
Patience is a virtue but don't keep your hopes high. You better accept the fact that this device may never ever ever ever get any android update from Samsung. If they do, then rejoice. If they don't, at least you ain't gonna cry like a baby
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Nice explanation sir! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[Rumor] Android 4.4 (Kit Kat ) for old devices !

Hello everyone ;
i just read an article stat that old phones with weak memory 512mg didnt get any new updates but this could be changed with new android !
it says that and i copy from it : ' One important feature will be the ability of low memory models to update to newer builds of Android. Low memory handsets made by Huawei, Samsung and ZTE that have 512MB of RAM inside, are at a major disadvantage to today's mid to high-range models that are packed with 2 to 3GB of the stuff. These low memory models usually are not updated to newer builds of Android. That could change with Android 4.4. '
idk but i guess if they did it it will be such a great news for old beloved old devices like my xperia ray !!:fingers-crossed:​
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-features-include-support-for-wearables-and-improved-performance-for-low-memory-devices_id48896

Unfortunately, not likely that older phones will get it, New but even mid and low-end phones might get it for sure.
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stinky dentist said:
Hello everyone ;
i just read an article stat that old phones with weak memory 512mg didnt get any new updates but this could be changed with new android !
it says that and i copy from it : ' One important feature will be the ability of low memory models to update to newer builds of Android. Low memory handsets made by Huawei, Samsung and ZTE that have 512MB of RAM inside, are at a major disadvantage to today's mid to high-range models that are packed with 2 to 3GB of the stuff. These low memory models usually are not updated to newer builds of Android. That could change with Android 4.4. '
idk but i guess if they did it it will be such a great news for old beloved old devices like my xperia ray !!:fingers-crossed:​
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-features-include-support-for-wearables-and-improved-performance-for-low-memory-devices_id48896
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I think 4.4 will just run good on low-end devices and it might be easier to port to those devices. But I'd wager quite a lot that Sony isn't going to bother with our phone anymore, 18 months have passed and they have dozens of other devices to support.

No Qualcomm support - no official 4.4 for our devices, get over it. We can only hope to get KitKat beacuse of Letama or Rayman.

yUlekk said:
No Qualcomm support - no official 4.4 for our devices, get over it. We can only hope to get KitKat beacuse of Letama or Rayman.
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Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs

No KitKat 4.4 for Galaxy Nexus.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085

I don't really think there would be anymore support or anything as such for SXS.. SONY has and completely will abandon SXS.. Already as Envious said SXZ is also old now and will soon be obsolete in another year.. Tech keeps on moving guys, everything gets old.. U just gotta live with it..
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Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs
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Wow.. That's good to hear.. I thought letama was gonna continue building 4.3.. Good to hear u r gonna takeover his project.. :good:
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No KitKat 4.4 for Galaxy Nexus.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085
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Since Galaxy Nexus even is abandoned, then Why are there rumors in the first place.. Its so confirmed that they themselves have said its OLD and crossed 18 months.. So i guess old in their words mean basic low end budget devices.. Its like in "Pink Panther 2" where the HERO does both Good Cop Bad Cop Routine all by himself.. :silly: And still we gotta accept it..!!! Don't get any hopes up YET guys..

I dont think any old device will get 4.4 unless its a part of some new licence
I guess its good for old devices to run newer android , 4.3 is extremely smooth compared to 4.2 and 4.1 (on xs)
Speaking of which
The first thing im trying to fix with letamas 4.3 build is the HDMI and the graphics crashes and errors
Just waiting for source code
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Envious_Data said:
Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs
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@Envious_Data
Lol almost bankrupt ??
No way and totally nonsense about that, they maked alot money with tv's/phones/laptops/ps3's etc like millions in 2012/13
Read better the news ;(
About kitkat 4.4, we shall see because we must also wait a year or longer on JB !!
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Pandemic said:
@Envious_Data
Lol almost bankrupt ??
No way and totally nonsense about that, they maked alot money with tv's/phones/laptops/ps3's etc like millions in 2012/13
Read better the news ;(
About kitkat 4.4, we shall see because we must also wait a year or longer on JB !!
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realy maybe i need to research more often
Xperia s was supose to get 4.2.2 , why i dony think any old xperia is going to be updated by sony
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i want kitkat its will make my xperia s faster,smoother,effecient and best of all battery life i want it.can anybody get me a kitkat bar :laugh:

Source code released
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/android-building/JVLaFRoJxFk
Someone please tag raymanfx.. I can't do it as I am on tapatalk app.
Kitkat is the way to go.. may be the best thing that can happen to xperia s and above all it features the much hyped screen recording feature out of the box as displayed by koush for CM.

Source code released
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/android-building/JVLaFRoJxFk
Someone please tag raymanfx.. I can't do it as I am on tapatalk app.
Kitkat is the way to go.. may be the best thing that can happen to xperia s and above all it features the much hyped screen recording feature out of the box as displayed by koush for CM.
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@RaymanFX This is the source to 4.4 already.. I hope this helps.. Thanks to @fundoozzz.. :good:

Not gonna happen guys. Xperia S is pretty much EOL. I will be getting my new phone tomorrow. So I'm ready to leave this place

4.4 Will not be given by sony as the phone is now classed as "discontinued" and is a archived sony phone. I don't know if the end of support for updates has been done yet if not they can update it but very unwilling because they have lots of newer phones.
Most likely a developer will port it over

The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.

lewis021 said:
The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.
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It definitely should as according to google it will run smooth on devices with mere 512mb of RAM.
The major challenges is hacking the code for our soc as it has been discontinued by arm too..

If Google is not upgrading the Galaxy Nexus, why are you hoping Sony will not do the same?
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We'll know more next week.
This is from Sony Xperia News Tweet:
re. #Android @kitkat, we’re excited – next week our news on: 4.3, 4.4; products & more... #SonyXperia
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The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.
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4.3 is smooth as heaven no joke
So 4.4 is going to be a load better
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[Information] Sony 4.3 , 4.4 Updates

So i decided to make this thread so people can read abou it...
It seems it is the end of the road for Sony xperia S
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11/07/on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4/

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But...Xperia ion doesn't even got proper jellybean 4.1.2 ...give us,Xperia ion user a 6.2.B.1.96 update T^T
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Hey, at least we received 3 major Android upgrades. This is ALMOST comparable to Galaxy Nexus which started off at 4.0 and ended 4.3. And you can't really blame Sony, Qualcomm didn't release new drivers for Snapdragon S3 SOCs.
I think it's time to move on, even Google is not updating the Galaxy Nexus even where its within the specification.

lee480 said:
Hey, at least we received 3 major Android upgrades. This is ALMOST comparable to Galaxy Nexus which started off at 4.0 and ended 4.3. And you can't really blame Sony, Qualcomm didn't release new drivers for Snapdragon S3 SOCs.
I think it's time to move on, even Google is not updating the Galaxy Nexus even where its within the specification.
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Ha ha.. sounds funny when u don't know the whole story.. Galaxy Nexus won't get 4.3 because Ti OMAP did what Qualcomm did to us.. Same thing.. No drivers from them.. So that being the main reason, Google covering it with 18 months reason.. Also pretty valid.. And for SONY which probably should have been released with 4.0 was released with 2.3, which they have done with all their flagships.. Z with 4.1 when 4.2 was already out, Z1 with 4.2 when 4.3 was out for months.. They are always a generation behind.. Hence we are forced to stay on 4.1.. Its like we only got 2 generations of OS.. Qualcomm might not have given drivers.. But 1 single person brought 4.2 and 4.3 for us, can't SONY, a big international NO.3 mobile company build one?? Lame reason i say.. Cheap parlor tricks.. We just have to fall for it..

as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship

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as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship
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Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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abdulkadiro said:
Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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for me my xperia s is not even a year old so i will use as it is or flash new custom roms.its not slouch yet.as kitkat requires low hardware specs,xperia s is more than enough :highfive: lets rock this phone until its death

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Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough

cezarry said:
Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough
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You r absolutely correct bro :good::good:

cezarry said:
Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough
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even for heavy user and gamer,its more than enough.i checked the xperia z1 camera its not big deal breaker compared to our xperia s.just my only concern with this awesome xperia s is its mediocre batery life.cant last a day but its all because of my heavy usage.4.30 hours of screen on time

As some people have been saying we still have ROMS.
And yeah the only thing i complain more is the battery but it is still a great phone...

btw, just something that i am always curious. If sony cant get 4.2, 4.3 4.4 to work, why do other developer managed to get it work?

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as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship
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This is why I'm done with Sony, man. Only flagship that was on GB at the time. WTF?

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btw, just something that i am always curious. If sony cant get 4.2, 4.3 4.4 to work, why do other developer managed to get it work?
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Well i am no expert but this is my take, as some people are stating Qualcomm isn't releasing any more drivers so Sony can't deliver an 100% stable version, developers release the most stable version possible but with customized drivers (which may not be perfect)

Well I think we all saw this coming. Been a nice ride though and I for one don't plan on getting rid of my Ion any time soon. A boot unlock sure would be nice though.

To be quite honest if the devs and community are still intact like it is currently for this device then no amount of of sony's paid devs can achieve what has and is being acheieved.
I believe the support of this great community of SXS owners and dedicated devs have made this device so much better than what Sony i still believe cannot achieve.
So a big Shout out to all the DeVS as they have done a fantastic job to a device that had posed a challenge to them thanks
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Sony 4.3/4.4 ROMs are never going to happen for our devices. We'll just have to rely on custom ROMs and ports.

I prefer the new kitkat over any Sony ROM.
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From what I have seen the only thing kit kat brings is a way to stop locked boot loader devices from being hacked. Things are going to get allot harder and we may all find our self's saving up for unlocked devices now. Kinda sucks if you ask me.

Lost hope :/

SO guys I've finally LOST HOPE on my XPERIA S Lt26i..
I want to know are there any else people who've also LOST HOPE of a STABLE ROM for it ?

No......
U can upgrade if u wish....
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I've lost hope - at the time I bought this phone I could have got a SP for the same price. I regret this phone.
However, I don't really care about android updates now. The 12mp sensor is quite good on this phone.
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Saurav16 said:
SO guys I've finally LOST HOPE on my XPERIA S Lt26i..
I want to know are there any else people who've also LOST HOPE of a STABLE ROM for it ?
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I hate to say it but yes

There are two developers working on porting z2 firmware to our phone so I'm gonna say no... I didn't lose hope... Plus our phone is doing better than many phones which announced at the same time
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Well I've literally tried every single ROM that came by...
Most of them were so good...
But then either developer left the project or got a new phone or just stopped building for this phone... In last 2 years (quite literally the longest time I've kept a phone) I've totally enjoyed using this phone but I think it's time to move on...
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Saurav16 said:
Well I've literally tried every single ROM that came by...
Most of them were so good...
But then either developer left the project or got a new phone or just stopped building for this phone... In last 2 years (quite literally the longest time I've kept a phone) I've totally enjoyed using this phone but I think it's time to move on...
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Trinity Ultimate Rom? That was a good Rom until he abandoned it and deleted the files of his server.
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It´s getting old and it shows now.. Not top quality either, so many annoying little things, so yes!

Didn't lost hope
Still, with Sony JB (rooted), the best phone I ever had.
It's getting old as every phone does, so where's the problem. If you like to have more support on firmware you should have bought a Google phone. Didn't know that, I did at the time a bought my Sony.

I didn't expect more from a 2012 phone.. comparing to other phones released that year our Nozomi devices are quite good, we just didn't receive proper support from neither Qualcomm (abandoned our Scorpion CPUs) and Sony (1 year to upgrade to Jelly Bean with more bugs than anything and stoped support using the lack of drivers excuse).. Today we have the same as almost every mid-range phone, but with a good camera.
720p display, 12.1MPx Camera, 1750mAh Battery, dedicated camera button and the best of sony: we can use ports from newer xperia devices. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 and I can say that our Xperia S is way superior. In the SGS2 Android Development section there are almost no ports from newer Galaxy devices, only AOSP/CM ROMs. The ROMs that claims to have SGS4/SGS5 features are mostly lies and I can confirm that. I flashed some of those ROMs and the features they "ported" are just copies they made themselfs, not the actual port itself. I don't know if they don't port it because Touchwiz is crap or because they can't do it... but after all a SGS2 won't run SGS5 apks, but a Xperia S easily runs Xperia Z2 apks.

Lunatiic said:
I didn't expect more from a 2012 phone.. comparing to other phones released that year our Nozomi devices are quite good, we just didn't receive proper support from neither Qualcomm (abandoned our Scorpion CPUs) and Sony (1 year to upgrade to Jelly Bean with more bugs than anything and stoped support using the lack of drivers excuse).. Today we have the same as almost every mid-range phone, but with a good camera.
720p display, 12.1MPx Camera, 1750mAh Battery, dedicated camera button and the best of sony: we can use ports from newer xperia devices. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 and I can say that our Xperia S is way superior. In the SGS2 Android Development section there are almost no ports from newer Galaxy devices, only AOSP/CM ROMs. The ROMs that claims to have SGS4/SGS5 features are mostly lies and I can confirm that. I flashed some of those ROMs and the features they "ported" are just copies they made themselfs, not the actual port itself. I don't know if they don't port it because Touchwiz is crap or because they can't do it... but after all a SGS2 won't run SGS5 apks, but a Xperia S easily runs Xperia Z2 apks.
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can you give me a link for your kernel TX-Core Ultimate Kernel 5.9

If you just buy it recently and with the standar price i bought 2 year ago, then that's a hope to lost
I mean i stick with my Xperia S and still think it one of the best around, and if you buy it couple years ago then why lost hope? Just need a stable rom for calling and play some good game? it's still work perfectly
I's just recently start to using rom cook and the experience is more amazing so why to compare it to the new phone and lost hope ?
Just move on if you want, if you want hard enough you will find a way to get out of the *lost hope* phone :silly:

No I'm not. Try the OpenSEMC-U ROM. It's fast like hell, and stable enough for daily use. But this is the last stable and fast ROM after the offical. Our's phones has got an old SoC (Snapdragon S3). The Qualcomm has stopped developing drivers for this SoC early. I just call this SoC "Blacksheep". It has so much power inside, but without good drivers...

Szatyor said:
No I'm not. Try the OpenSEMC-U ROM. It's fast like hell, and stable enough for daily use. But this is the last stable and fast ROM after the offical. Our's phones has got an old SoC (Snapdragon S3). The Qualcomm has stopped developing drivers for this SoC early. I just call this SoC "Blacksheep". It has so much power inside, but without good drivers...
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yes i am using that only for quite some time now.... but now i am thinking of flashing the stock rom now and selling it though that would be hard for me as i was totally in love with this phone....

XDA_h3n said:
Trinity Ultimate Rom? That was a good Rom until he abandoned it and deleted the files of his server.
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ya that was a good rom from a good developer...

Sorry to ask but does this thread serve any purpose?
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do you think the we will get Android M??

so do you think that samsung 8.4 tab will get android M??? or you think they will not update it anymore?

Monster212 said:
so do you think that samsung 8.4 tab will get android M??? or you think they will not update it anymore?
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Considering we're still only on 5.0.2 and 5.1.1 has been out for many months I'd feel there is little chance this year if ever. A custom ROM will be our best bet. Also be careful what you wish for as you still see many posts from people reverting to KitKat while Lollipop has been great for me.
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Let first hope that we will get 5.1.1 first then think about android M

One day, when we've moved on to other devices, Samsung may release M for the Tab S

they might just be skipping 5.1.x and going directly to M...

DrEzkimo said:
they might just be skipping 5.1.x and going directly to M...
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Did Samsung say that?

i read on another web site that has a list confirmed from samsung that will get the update to M, this site posted this info yesterday... they also say that more will be added to the list, not sure if i am allowed to post links to other sites on here so i will post the site... buts its on a site with Samsung in it.. google is your friend... if i am allowed to post links i will add the link..
List of Samsung devices that will get Official Android M updates:
- Samsung Galaxy S6
- Samsung Galaxy S6 Duos
- Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
- Samsung Galaxy Note 4
- Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Duos
- Samsung Galaxy Note Edge
- Samsung Galaxy ALPHA
- Samsung Galaxy Tab A

rookie12 said:
Did Samsung say that?
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no, pure speculation
but I just wonder the point of devoting energy into 5.1 when M is on the horizon.
who knows how it works though.

I dont think tab s can run android m properly

If we wont get the android M update from samsung maybe we will get a a port like cm13 who knows

LoVeRice said:
I dont think tab s can run android m properly
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M is supposed to be optimized and with several improvements in comparison to LP.
So if it can run LP than it will fly with M.
It's Samsung obligation to provide Android M, because of the 2 year firmware support. No excuses are accepted!
Being fed up with all my Samsung devices firmware sluggish and dated updates, I'm considering in the future moving to Nexus or Apple.
Samsung, please don't ask premium prices, and then provide the cheapest support.

I agree @pacc I think I will move on to one plus LG and nexus my next device wont be samsung

I read the other day that galaxy tab 4 is receiving android 5.1.1 around now , so I'm hoping the tab S will get it too...anything else doesn't make sense; both devices released around the same time, and tab S is the premium one...
As for M, that just wild speculation. My money is on "no, we won't get that"
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IMHO, and I'm no expert just an end user, Android and Apple bite. Not ONE Android based device I have is capable of browsing the internet with the same functionality as Chrome, Firefox or IE. Facebook apps are lame at best and I prefer the interface we are given with a browser over any of the apps. I'm not going to buy any future Android based devices. I totally refuse to purchase anything from Apple after being stung buying an iPOD years ago.
So IF I ever buy another tablet, and that's pretty doubtful, it will be Windows based, cell phone too.
Samsung, Asus, Rockchip devices using Android....no more of my money....

Samsung suckered me in with a great price for awesome hardware but I am more educated now I would never buy a Samsung these days. I originally installed a custom ROM because I got tired of all the lag and bugs of Tab S stock kitkat. Expensive lesson as now my knox is tripped.. Samsung probably isn't excited to release software because everyone is wiping to get rid of lag then never reporting into their service. I lasted two months.. I would type a sentence then wait as it slowly came out, it was epic bad lag.

I lasted 2 days and tjen wiped and flashed a custom rom lol I guess thats the reason why they dont update

fred_be9300 said:
I read the other day that galaxy tab 4 is receiving android 5.1.1 around now , so I'm hoping the tab S will get it too...anything else doesn't make sense; both devices released around the same time, and tab S is the premium one...
As for M, that just wild speculation. My money is on "no, we won't get that"
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They may be using Tab 4 as a test before putting their eggs in the basket with the Tab S.

I must have lower expectations of my tab than you guy`s, I am still on kitkat and apart from rooting to get full microsd access i have had no problems at all, I don't care about updates they seem to cause more problems than they are worth.
John.

Great devices totally ruined by that crappy samsung software