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Does the slow JB update schedule put you off future XPERIA phones?

What do you think guys?
They are doing same mistake again n again, no lesson learnt from Xperia X10 disaster !!
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/12/2...XperiaBlog+(Xperia+Blog)&utm_content=FaceBook
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Don't worry there will be plenty of fanboys buy Sony.
And they say slow update means polished update. LMFAO.
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I'm one of these fan boys but from now on only nexus because it will always be the best supported device, on the software part at least!
I will still love Sony and praise their efforts on creating such sexy and smart devices!
I hope one day we will see a Sony nexus, this will be awesome!
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No. I'll still buy a Sony as long as it's the best looking phone. I don't need updates right away for a device that I use for sms, email and phone calls.
But it needs to look good, I don't want to think 'ew this thing is ugly but at least it runs the latest android version' every time I pull out my phone.
If updates are so important to you, why didn't you buy a nexus in the first place?
It has nothing do with 'fanboys'.
Some people have different priorities in a phone than you.
My boyfriend is still satisfied with his sola even if won't get jb.
My little sister hasn't even updated her ray to ics because she doesn't even know what it is.
Some people just want their phone to work the way it did when they brought it. Which is why they bought it in the first way.
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The new Nexus looks ok (it is LG but what the hell) as for the previous which was Samsung..... ewww!

It probably wouldn't put me off too much.
I've had an Arc S and the Xperia S, and loved them both. I'm also capable of flashing ROMS, so as long as theres dev support, I wouldn't be bothered if Sony are waaay behind release schedules.
The new Yuga looks awesome, although I'm not due an upgrade till October next year.
Although, after buying a Nexus 7, and getting the 4.2 update about 10 hours after Google released it, I definately consider a Nexus device as my next handset.

Not really. i like sony devices somehow and i'm inclined towards buying them always. i had couple sony devices and loved them all. i like arc s but due to half gb of ram i moved to sxs. i'm not on cm10 by fxp and loving it. though it has few bugs i really do not miss official updates. one thing i like about sony is they support open source projects. i'm waiting for xperia yuga and thinking of waiting till xperia nexus. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:

Updating android is not a big deal
For me ur still can use most app in play
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Not getting a working ICS has put me off let alone the wait for JB.

MrBelter said:
Not getting a working ICS has put me off let alone the wait for JB.
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Same here, if Sony had pushed a fixed ics, especially for UK generic then I would have happily sat back, waited for jelly bean and probably bought another Sony next summer, I don't need the latest update straight away, but I do need a phone that works. So after the way Sony treated me, not now.
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Samsung GS2 and Note are getting JB from Next month...! Aw Sony! What up with the Koreans anyway??

I don't care about the updates.
Well... Right now I'm testing a JB ROM and it's great and everything, but I prefer stock Sony ROMs. When official JB gets released I'm going to flash it over the CM10 based ROM I have now. And also I'm thinking that my next phone will be a Sony Xperia Odin xD
Maybe Sony is going to fix all its mistakes next year, or maybe they're going to make the same bad decisions about updating their phones but the hell with that, I'm happy with my XS right now!

richteralan said:
Don't worry there will be plenty of fanboys buy Sony.
And they say slow update means polished update. LMFAO.
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Don u rmb the the amount of bug ics had?
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Yep. I was hoping a JB update to iron out the issues but they screwed me over again with this late release. They don't even give us the new features of the new software versions... (I mean officially)
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No need for official updates, when you've got great teams like FXP and KXP
You get CM, AOKP, MIUI plus a bunch of stock- and custom-based ROMs with even better features than the official ROMs...
That's what you get if your device gets an unlockable bootloader and gets featured on the xda portal
Tha only bad thing, though, is no CM7...

someone755 said:
No need for official updates, when you've got great teams like FXP and KXP
You get CM, AOKP, MIUI plus a bunch of stock- and custom-based ROMs with even better features than the official ROMs...
That's what you get if your device gets an unlockable bootloader and gets featured on the xda portal
Tha only bad thing, though, is no CM7...
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This is not the point.
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I'll buy the next Xperia because I love Sony (Ericsson)'s design and UI (since 2007), they are better than other Android phones, but I'll change if Sony don't change (maybe a Nexus or Lumia in 2014 )!

Nek0x90 said:
I don't care about the updates.
Well... Right now I'm testing a JB ROM and it's great and everything, but I prefer stock Sony ROMs. When official JB gets released I'm going to flash it over the CM10 based ROM I have now. And also I'm thinking that my next phone will be a Sony Xperia Odin xD
Maybe Sony is going to fix all its mistakes next year, or maybe they're going to make the same bad decisions about updating their phones but the hell with that, I'm happy with my XS right now!
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This is exactly how I feel. I am willing to wait because I dont want the stock google experience. I already have a Nexus 7, I dont need a nexus phone, unless it was a Nexperia. Sony android is really damn good for phones, amazing for music.
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someone755 said:
No need for official updates, when you've got great teams like FXP and KXP
You get CM, AOKP, MIUI plus a bunch of stock- and custom-based ROMs with even better features than the official ROMs...
That's what you get if your device gets an unlockable bootloader and gets featured on the xda portal
Tha only bad thing, though, is no CM7...
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CM7 are you kidding?

I bought XPS just for the look (also their skin are beautiful). For the software side I'm using CM. So, kinda problem solved for me.
But yes it is very annoying to see the lower end phone will got update sooner than you.
I would totally bought Nexus if they weren't made by Samsung or LG.
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I was big fan of Sony as you can see from my name Used Xperia X10, Arc, Play but after that I was very disappointed with Sony, used XS n then moved to Note 2.
Going by the specs and sleek design, I like the Xperia Z (Yuga).
If Sony is going to release this globally by March with atleast JB 4.1.2 I will buy !!!
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JB 4.3 might appear on XS

Hello guys! I was wondering today why that annocement hasnt been considered here on Xperia S forum, while it makes such an impression on Xperia Z forum. Its all because of http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/#more-9209 . It clearly says: "We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @sonymobileNews for all the latest.". Guys i got used to it that you owners of XS should actually be full of hope and pleasure hearing such words, but unfortunately you always blame on news that type, so please make exception this time and try NOT to blame on me for sharing this great news (yea, ive been here around for year with my lovely xperia s but i switched to xperia z a time ago)

Thats for Xperia T
Our drivers will not support 4.3

Yakandu said:
Thats for Xperia T
Our drivers will not support 4.3
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From what Ive heared qualcomm has abandoned drivers for S3 processor for android 4.2 but there were plans to provide drivers for 4.3, so wish you all good luck, cause as i said i expect negative reception from xperia s owners but also ive got a soft spot on xperia s forum as i spent here few minutes

What noticable will 4.3 will bring to us anyway? open gls 3.0 wont be compitable with the old outdated s3 chip,and i find bluetooth smart uselesss
by the way they probably ment the xperia t family......xperia s is pretty much dead for them

devilakos said:
What noticable will 4.3 will bring to us anyway? open gls 3.0 wont be compitable with the old outdated s3 chip,and i find bluetooth smart uselesss
by the way they probably ment the xperia t family......xperia s is pretty much dead for them
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I luv the way people here beg for updates and the same time call them useless. Ok, we're waiting for the next (surely) positive reception LOLA

Kondzioz said:
From what Ive heared qualcomm has abandoned drivers for S3 processor for android 4.2 but there were plans to provide drivers for 4.3, so wish you all good luck, cause as i said i expect negative reception from xperia s owners but also ive got a soft spot on xperia s forum as i spent here few minutes
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The "might" part of your post is just pure speculation unlikely to happen. Qualcomm EOL Snapdragon S3 chips.
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Dudes, DON'T, just DON'T.
We all know that our device will only get a JB Bug Fix Update and that's it, no more official updates.
Please, close this thread before some "I HATE YOU SONY", "I'M GOING BUY A NEXUS" appears.
Anyway, I'm going to buy a Honami at the end of the year, so I don't care.

x10 reloaded? skip x.2 and give x.3 would be too nice, but a proper 4.1 update would do the job as well.

A smooth non buggy 4.1.2 is perfect enough for me.
Its already smooth, Now just fix the bugs.

I think xsp have a chance to get 4.3, for xs i dont think so
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denslife16 said:
I think xsp have a chance to get 4.3, for xs i dont think so
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xsp has already confirmed by sony.
for xs. don't hope too much.

*cricket sound* My ion still hasn't receive the JellyBean ion yet...even it is out at some country yet Sony said it have been rolling out,but why so long I also don't know...maybe they stop the JellyBean 4.1 update and gonna skip it to 4.3
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UchihaDareNial said:
*cricket sound* My ion still hasn't receive the JellyBean ion yet...even it is out at some country yet Sony said it have been rolling out,but why so long I also don't know...maybe they stop the JellyBean 4.1 update and gonna skip it to 4.3
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Haha, I guess we can continue to dream on until the day Sony confirms the doomday of Xperia Ion/S/Acro S!
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One reason some old devices had so much development was the fact all the source code was available. Now Qualcom is unlikely to give the source code to the dev community but Sony may be able to so this could come to the S3 chip devices. Yes I am being optimistic but it could happen and would help Sony establish itself in the device world. I just wish they would focus on less devices and create some really good phones with a longer life span. I don't get the concept of build 12 devices every year. It seems you could build four and cut more cost in parts and save a ton in development cost.

cikomiko said:
x10 reloaded? skip x.2 and give x.3 would be too nice, but a proper 4.1 update would do the job as well.
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Yea, Ive got the same situation in my mind as I was an owner of x10. Most of you guys dunno that x10 was running 1.6 then 2.1, then was said to be by SONY not efficient to run properly 2.2, but then they realised that it can run 2.3 smoothly- it was highly unexpected by anyone. Also x10 as i remember at first wasnt capable of using multitouch, but SONY also here surprised us and came up with multitouch few months after x10's release. I would say that most companies cannot afford to update every portfolio smartphone thay have with every android update i mean 4.0.X->4.1.X->4.2.X->4.3.X, but some of them are able to skip minor updays only for major one and so they do.
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HTC removed One S from their Android 4.2 update list because some models were with S3 processor.
There are very, very low chances (almost nonexistent) for official Android 4.3 for our Xperia's...
And that is not so much of Sony's fault, it's more Qualcoom... however, Xperia S had older processor even at the time of its launch so at the end it is Sony's fault
Guys, we have good 4.1.2 ROMs, some excellent and always progressing 4.2.2 ROMs, it is not so dark as you guys present it

switzerland92 said:
HTC removed One S from their Android 4.2 update list because some models were with S3 processor.
There are very, very low chances (almost nonexistent) for official Android 4.3 for our Xperia's...
And that is not so much of Sony's fault, it's more Qualcoom... however, Xperia S had older processor even at the time of its launch so at the end it is Sony's fault
Guys, we have good 4.1.2 ROMs, some excellent and always progressing 4.2.2 ROMs, it is not so dark as you guys present it
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What do you mean Sony's fault? You have the power to choose whether to buy Xperia S or not. Don't blame that on Sony.
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I'm guessing this thread has really said what 's got to say and those that have mentioned OpenGL ES 3.0 have really put the nails in the coffin on Android 4.3
Isn't there a thread in the general section dispelling even Android 4.2 updates from Sony for the XPERIA LT26i?
If Sony do a bang up job of getting this puppy to fly on Android 4.1.2, what more could we expect of a Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 chipset anyway.
And at the end of the day when the sun sets on the XPERIA S we have a bevy of excellent XDA developers that'll make sure the wheels don't fall off our trolley that is the XPERIA LT26i.
My XPERIA X10i (64GB MicroSD, 1.15GHz CPU, 1800mAh battery) is testament to that.

lee480 said:
What do you mean Sony's fault? You have the power to choose whether to buy Xperia S or not. Don't blame that on Sony.
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And I agre with you 100% for whenever to buy S or not. I just wanted to say that Sony decided which CPU will they put into their devices. They have chosen older generation. They didn't knew how long will Qualcoom support it and I think they didn't think they'll put som much time into upgrading 2012 Xperias.
But, to say Sony is completely innocent for not being able to provide 4.2 or 4.3 to Xperia S - I disagree.

switzerland92 said:
And I agre with you 100% for whenever to buy S or not. I just wanted to say that Sony decided which CPU will they put into their devices. They have chosen older generation. They didn't knew how long will Qualcoom support it and I think they didn't think they'll put som much time into upgrading 2012 Xperias.
But, to say Sony is completely innocent for not being able to provide 4.2 or 4.3 to Xperia S - I disagree.
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How is it Sony's fault Qualcomm didn't provide the CPU drivers? Xperia S is the first flagship of the ships launched early January. I know you have the urge that you must put the blame on someone, but do it correctly. This thread is about the direction and future of Xperia S and not "let's try to pinpoint and destroy Sony".
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[Rumor] Android 4.4 (Kit Kat ) for old devices !

Hello everyone ;
i just read an article stat that old phones with weak memory 512mg didnt get any new updates but this could be changed with new android !
it says that and i copy from it : ' One important feature will be the ability of low memory models to update to newer builds of Android. Low memory handsets made by Huawei, Samsung and ZTE that have 512MB of RAM inside, are at a major disadvantage to today's mid to high-range models that are packed with 2 to 3GB of the stuff. These low memory models usually are not updated to newer builds of Android. That could change with Android 4.4. '
idk but i guess if they did it it will be such a great news for old beloved old devices like my xperia ray !!:fingers-crossed:​
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-features-include-support-for-wearables-and-improved-performance-for-low-memory-devices_id48896

Unfortunately, not likely that older phones will get it, New but even mid and low-end phones might get it for sure.
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stinky dentist said:
Hello everyone ;
i just read an article stat that old phones with weak memory 512mg didnt get any new updates but this could be changed with new android !
it says that and i copy from it : ' One important feature will be the ability of low memory models to update to newer builds of Android. Low memory handsets made by Huawei, Samsung and ZTE that have 512MB of RAM inside, are at a major disadvantage to today's mid to high-range models that are packed with 2 to 3GB of the stuff. These low memory models usually are not updated to newer builds of Android. That could change with Android 4.4. '
idk but i guess if they did it it will be such a great news for old beloved old devices like my xperia ray !!:fingers-crossed:​
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-features-include-support-for-wearables-and-improved-performance-for-low-memory-devices_id48896
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I think 4.4 will just run good on low-end devices and it might be easier to port to those devices. But I'd wager quite a lot that Sony isn't going to bother with our phone anymore, 18 months have passed and they have dozens of other devices to support.

No Qualcomm support - no official 4.4 for our devices, get over it. We can only hope to get KitKat beacuse of Letama or Rayman.

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No Qualcomm support - no official 4.4 for our devices, get over it. We can only hope to get KitKat beacuse of Letama or Rayman.
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Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs

No KitKat 4.4 for Galaxy Nexus.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085

I don't really think there would be anymore support or anything as such for SXS.. SONY has and completely will abandon SXS.. Already as Envious said SXZ is also old now and will soon be obsolete in another year.. Tech keeps on moving guys, everything gets old.. U just gotta live with it..
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Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs
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Wow.. That's good to hear.. I thought letama was gonna continue building 4.3.. Good to hear u r gonna takeover his project.. :good:
thomstrack said:
No KitKat 4.4 for Galaxy Nexus.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085
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Since Galaxy Nexus even is abandoned, then Why are there rumors in the first place.. Its so confirmed that they themselves have said its OLD and crossed 18 months.. So i guess old in their words mean basic low end budget devices.. Its like in "Pink Panther 2" where the HERO does both Good Cop Bad Cop Routine all by himself.. :silly: And still we gotta accept it..!!! Don't get any hopes up YET guys..

I dont think any old device will get 4.4 unless its a part of some new licence
I guess its good for old devices to run newer android , 4.3 is extremely smooth compared to 4.2 and 4.1 (on xs)
Speaking of which
The first thing im trying to fix with letamas 4.3 build is the HDMI and the graphics crashes and errors
Just waiting for source code
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Envious_Data said:
Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs
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Lol almost bankrupt ??
No way and totally nonsense about that, they maked alot money with tv's/phones/laptops/ps3's etc like millions in 2012/13
Read better the news ;(
About kitkat 4.4, we shall see because we must also wait a year or longer on JB !!
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Pandemic said:
@Envious_Data
Lol almost bankrupt ??
No way and totally nonsense about that, they maked alot money with tv's/phones/laptops/ps3's etc like millions in 2012/13
Read better the news ;(
About kitkat 4.4, we shall see because we must also wait a year or longer on JB !!
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realy maybe i need to research more often
Xperia s was supose to get 4.2.2 , why i dony think any old xperia is going to be updated by sony
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i want kitkat its will make my xperia s faster,smoother,effecient and best of all battery life i want it.can anybody get me a kitkat bar :laugh:

Source code released
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/android-building/JVLaFRoJxFk
Someone please tag raymanfx.. I can't do it as I am on tapatalk app.
Kitkat is the way to go.. may be the best thing that can happen to xperia s and above all it features the much hyped screen recording feature out of the box as displayed by koush for CM.

Source code released
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/android-building/JVLaFRoJxFk
Someone please tag raymanfx.. I can't do it as I am on tapatalk app.
Kitkat is the way to go.. may be the best thing that can happen to xperia s and above all it features the much hyped screen recording feature out of the box as displayed by koush for CM.
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@RaymanFX This is the source to 4.4 already.. I hope this helps.. Thanks to @fundoozzz.. :good:

Not gonna happen guys. Xperia S is pretty much EOL. I will be getting my new phone tomorrow. So I'm ready to leave this place

4.4 Will not be given by sony as the phone is now classed as "discontinued" and is a archived sony phone. I don't know if the end of support for updates has been done yet if not they can update it but very unwilling because they have lots of newer phones.
Most likely a developer will port it over

The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.

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The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.
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It definitely should as according to google it will run smooth on devices with mere 512mb of RAM.
The major challenges is hacking the code for our soc as it has been discontinued by arm too..

If Google is not upgrading the Galaxy Nexus, why are you hoping Sony will not do the same?
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We'll know more next week.
This is from Sony Xperia News Tweet:
re. #Android @kitkat, we’re excited – next week our news on: 4.3, 4.4; products & more... #SonyXperia
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The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.
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4.3 is smooth as heaven no joke
So 4.4 is going to be a load better
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[Information] Sony 4.3 , 4.4 Updates

So i decided to make this thread so people can read abou it...
It seems it is the end of the road for Sony xperia S
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11/07/on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4/

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But...Xperia ion doesn't even got proper jellybean 4.1.2 ...give us,Xperia ion user a 6.2.B.1.96 update T^T
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Hey, at least we received 3 major Android upgrades. This is ALMOST comparable to Galaxy Nexus which started off at 4.0 and ended 4.3. And you can't really blame Sony, Qualcomm didn't release new drivers for Snapdragon S3 SOCs.
I think it's time to move on, even Google is not updating the Galaxy Nexus even where its within the specification.

lee480 said:
Hey, at least we received 3 major Android upgrades. This is ALMOST comparable to Galaxy Nexus which started off at 4.0 and ended 4.3. And you can't really blame Sony, Qualcomm didn't release new drivers for Snapdragon S3 SOCs.
I think it's time to move on, even Google is not updating the Galaxy Nexus even where its within the specification.
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Ha ha.. sounds funny when u don't know the whole story.. Galaxy Nexus won't get 4.3 because Ti OMAP did what Qualcomm did to us.. Same thing.. No drivers from them.. So that being the main reason, Google covering it with 18 months reason.. Also pretty valid.. And for SONY which probably should have been released with 4.0 was released with 2.3, which they have done with all their flagships.. Z with 4.1 when 4.2 was already out, Z1 with 4.2 when 4.3 was out for months.. They are always a generation behind.. Hence we are forced to stay on 4.1.. Its like we only got 2 generations of OS.. Qualcomm might not have given drivers.. But 1 single person brought 4.2 and 4.3 for us, can't SONY, a big international NO.3 mobile company build one?? Lame reason i say.. Cheap parlor tricks.. We just have to fall for it..

as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship

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as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship
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Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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abdulkadiro said:
Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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for me my xperia s is not even a year old so i will use as it is or flash new custom roms.its not slouch yet.as kitkat requires low hardware specs,xperia s is more than enough :highfive: lets rock this phone until its death

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Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough

cezarry said:
Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough
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You r absolutely correct bro :good::good:

cezarry said:
Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough
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even for heavy user and gamer,its more than enough.i checked the xperia z1 camera its not big deal breaker compared to our xperia s.just my only concern with this awesome xperia s is its mediocre batery life.cant last a day but its all because of my heavy usage.4.30 hours of screen on time

As some people have been saying we still have ROMS.
And yeah the only thing i complain more is the battery but it is still a great phone...

btw, just something that i am always curious. If sony cant get 4.2, 4.3 4.4 to work, why do other developer managed to get it work?

franklin93 said:
as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship
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This is why I'm done with Sony, man. Only flagship that was on GB at the time. WTF?

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btw, just something that i am always curious. If sony cant get 4.2, 4.3 4.4 to work, why do other developer managed to get it work?
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Well i am no expert but this is my take, as some people are stating Qualcomm isn't releasing any more drivers so Sony can't deliver an 100% stable version, developers release the most stable version possible but with customized drivers (which may not be perfect)

Well I think we all saw this coming. Been a nice ride though and I for one don't plan on getting rid of my Ion any time soon. A boot unlock sure would be nice though.

To be quite honest if the devs and community are still intact like it is currently for this device then no amount of of sony's paid devs can achieve what has and is being acheieved.
I believe the support of this great community of SXS owners and dedicated devs have made this device so much better than what Sony i still believe cannot achieve.
So a big Shout out to all the DeVS as they have done a fantastic job to a device that had posed a challenge to them thanks
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Sony 4.3/4.4 ROMs are never going to happen for our devices. We'll just have to rely on custom ROMs and ports.

I prefer the new kitkat over any Sony ROM.
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From what I have seen the only thing kit kat brings is a way to stop locked boot loader devices from being hacked. Things are going to get allot harder and we may all find our self's saving up for unlocked devices now. Kinda sucks if you ask me.

Xperia M disappointment.

I'm coming to this device after using an xperia mini ST15i for 3 years.My decision was based on the M's hardware and price.I just needed to double my hardware specs as cheaply as possible.
I can't really explain the lack of love for this xperia to be honest.
The mini has a huge database of custom ROMS and Kernels compared to the M which is miles ahead in my opinion.I even flashed a KitKat Rom stable enough for everyday use in the last 2 months!
Just wanted to share my frustration,that's all.
Also I'd like to thank all the devs working for the Xperia M!
Please keep up the good work!
N.
Not sent from my xPERIA M.

Welcome friend from the old fourm,
Don't be upset the phone is still new, and there are few devs here atm.
The stock fw is very good in my opinion; it does not lag, and very smooth.
Beside that we are going to have official android 4.3 update from sony soon.
So it is early to flash custom/cooked roms.
And for cm roms, we have fxp support now..!
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Enjoy your new device and cheer-up
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U can't compare the mini with M, the mini was in the first wave in 2011, at that time there was just a dozen of good android devices to buy, therefore many devs where working on them, but now the huge variety of handset's made the development focused on flagships.
I came from live with Walkman too but i think the official firmware is good enough and almost bug free,
Just unlock ur BL install cwm, root.and enjoy.
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andro-SYR said:
U can't compare the mini with M, the mini was in the first wave in 2011, at that time there was just a dozen of good android devices to buy, therefore many devs where working on them, but now the huge variety of handset's made the development focused on flagships.
I came from live with Walkman too but i think the official firmware is good enough and almost bug free,
Just unlock ur BL install cwm, root.and enjoy.
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Well,I unlocked it,rooted it and installed a custom Kernel with CWM (Elixer).
All during the first day I got the phone in my hands.
Still,I cant wait to try some of the other kernels just to see how much performance I can get out of it!
Any suggestions? I m thinking about flashing KTT Kernel.
Seems a bit better than Elixer.
N.