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Does the slow JB update schedule put you off future XPERIA phones?

What do you think guys?
They are doing same mistake again n again, no lesson learnt from Xperia X10 disaster !!
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/12/2...XperiaBlog+(Xperia+Blog)&utm_content=FaceBook
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Don't worry there will be plenty of fanboys buy Sony.
And they say slow update means polished update. LMFAO.
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I'm one of these fan boys but from now on only nexus because it will always be the best supported device, on the software part at least!
I will still love Sony and praise their efforts on creating such sexy and smart devices!
I hope one day we will see a Sony nexus, this will be awesome!
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No. I'll still buy a Sony as long as it's the best looking phone. I don't need updates right away for a device that I use for sms, email and phone calls.
But it needs to look good, I don't want to think 'ew this thing is ugly but at least it runs the latest android version' every time I pull out my phone.
If updates are so important to you, why didn't you buy a nexus in the first place?
It has nothing do with 'fanboys'.
Some people have different priorities in a phone than you.
My boyfriend is still satisfied with his sola even if won't get jb.
My little sister hasn't even updated her ray to ics because she doesn't even know what it is.
Some people just want their phone to work the way it did when they brought it. Which is why they bought it in the first way.
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The new Nexus looks ok (it is LG but what the hell) as for the previous which was Samsung..... ewww!

It probably wouldn't put me off too much.
I've had an Arc S and the Xperia S, and loved them both. I'm also capable of flashing ROMS, so as long as theres dev support, I wouldn't be bothered if Sony are waaay behind release schedules.
The new Yuga looks awesome, although I'm not due an upgrade till October next year.
Although, after buying a Nexus 7, and getting the 4.2 update about 10 hours after Google released it, I definately consider a Nexus device as my next handset.

Not really. i like sony devices somehow and i'm inclined towards buying them always. i had couple sony devices and loved them all. i like arc s but due to half gb of ram i moved to sxs. i'm not on cm10 by fxp and loving it. though it has few bugs i really do not miss official updates. one thing i like about sony is they support open source projects. i'm waiting for xperia yuga and thinking of waiting till xperia nexus. :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:

Updating android is not a big deal
For me ur still can use most app in play
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Not getting a working ICS has put me off let alone the wait for JB.

MrBelter said:
Not getting a working ICS has put me off let alone the wait for JB.
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Same here, if Sony had pushed a fixed ics, especially for UK generic then I would have happily sat back, waited for jelly bean and probably bought another Sony next summer, I don't need the latest update straight away, but I do need a phone that works. So after the way Sony treated me, not now.
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Samsung GS2 and Note are getting JB from Next month...! Aw Sony! What up with the Koreans anyway??

I don't care about the updates.
Well... Right now I'm testing a JB ROM and it's great and everything, but I prefer stock Sony ROMs. When official JB gets released I'm going to flash it over the CM10 based ROM I have now. And also I'm thinking that my next phone will be a Sony Xperia Odin xD
Maybe Sony is going to fix all its mistakes next year, or maybe they're going to make the same bad decisions about updating their phones but the hell with that, I'm happy with my XS right now!

richteralan said:
Don't worry there will be plenty of fanboys buy Sony.
And they say slow update means polished update. LMFAO.
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Don u rmb the the amount of bug ics had?
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Yep. I was hoping a JB update to iron out the issues but they screwed me over again with this late release. They don't even give us the new features of the new software versions... (I mean officially)
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No need for official updates, when you've got great teams like FXP and KXP
You get CM, AOKP, MIUI plus a bunch of stock- and custom-based ROMs with even better features than the official ROMs...
That's what you get if your device gets an unlockable bootloader and gets featured on the xda portal
Tha only bad thing, though, is no CM7...

someone755 said:
No need for official updates, when you've got great teams like FXP and KXP
You get CM, AOKP, MIUI plus a bunch of stock- and custom-based ROMs with even better features than the official ROMs...
That's what you get if your device gets an unlockable bootloader and gets featured on the xda portal
Tha only bad thing, though, is no CM7...
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This is not the point.
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I'll buy the next Xperia because I love Sony (Ericsson)'s design and UI (since 2007), they are better than other Android phones, but I'll change if Sony don't change (maybe a Nexus or Lumia in 2014 )!

Nek0x90 said:
I don't care about the updates.
Well... Right now I'm testing a JB ROM and it's great and everything, but I prefer stock Sony ROMs. When official JB gets released I'm going to flash it over the CM10 based ROM I have now. And also I'm thinking that my next phone will be a Sony Xperia Odin xD
Maybe Sony is going to fix all its mistakes next year, or maybe they're going to make the same bad decisions about updating their phones but the hell with that, I'm happy with my XS right now!
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This is exactly how I feel. I am willing to wait because I dont want the stock google experience. I already have a Nexus 7, I dont need a nexus phone, unless it was a Nexperia. Sony android is really damn good for phones, amazing for music.
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someone755 said:
No need for official updates, when you've got great teams like FXP and KXP
You get CM, AOKP, MIUI plus a bunch of stock- and custom-based ROMs with even better features than the official ROMs...
That's what you get if your device gets an unlockable bootloader and gets featured on the xda portal
Tha only bad thing, though, is no CM7...
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CM7 are you kidding?

I bought XPS just for the look (also their skin are beautiful). For the software side I'm using CM. So, kinda problem solved for me.
But yes it is very annoying to see the lower end phone will got update sooner than you.
I would totally bought Nexus if they weren't made by Samsung or LG.
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I was big fan of Sony as you can see from my name Used Xperia X10, Arc, Play but after that I was very disappointed with Sony, used XS n then moved to Note 2.
Going by the specs and sleek design, I like the Xperia Z (Yuga).
If Sony is going to release this globally by March with atleast JB 4.1.2 I will buy !!!
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JB 4.3 might appear on XS

Hello guys! I was wondering today why that annocement hasnt been considered here on Xperia S forum, while it makes such an impression on Xperia Z forum. Its all because of http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/#more-9209 . It clearly says: "We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @sonymobileNews for all the latest.". Guys i got used to it that you owners of XS should actually be full of hope and pleasure hearing such words, but unfortunately you always blame on news that type, so please make exception this time and try NOT to blame on me for sharing this great news (yea, ive been here around for year with my lovely xperia s but i switched to xperia z a time ago)

Thats for Xperia T
Our drivers will not support 4.3

Yakandu said:
Thats for Xperia T
Our drivers will not support 4.3
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From what Ive heared qualcomm has abandoned drivers for S3 processor for android 4.2 but there were plans to provide drivers for 4.3, so wish you all good luck, cause as i said i expect negative reception from xperia s owners but also ive got a soft spot on xperia s forum as i spent here few minutes

What noticable will 4.3 will bring to us anyway? open gls 3.0 wont be compitable with the old outdated s3 chip,and i find bluetooth smart uselesss
by the way they probably ment the xperia t family......xperia s is pretty much dead for them

devilakos said:
What noticable will 4.3 will bring to us anyway? open gls 3.0 wont be compitable with the old outdated s3 chip,and i find bluetooth smart uselesss
by the way they probably ment the xperia t family......xperia s is pretty much dead for them
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I luv the way people here beg for updates and the same time call them useless. Ok, we're waiting for the next (surely) positive reception LOLA

Kondzioz said:
From what Ive heared qualcomm has abandoned drivers for S3 processor for android 4.2 but there were plans to provide drivers for 4.3, so wish you all good luck, cause as i said i expect negative reception from xperia s owners but also ive got a soft spot on xperia s forum as i spent here few minutes
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The "might" part of your post is just pure speculation unlikely to happen. Qualcomm EOL Snapdragon S3 chips.
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Dudes, DON'T, just DON'T.
We all know that our device will only get a JB Bug Fix Update and that's it, no more official updates.
Please, close this thread before some "I HATE YOU SONY", "I'M GOING BUY A NEXUS" appears.
Anyway, I'm going to buy a Honami at the end of the year, so I don't care.

x10 reloaded? skip x.2 and give x.3 would be too nice, but a proper 4.1 update would do the job as well.

A smooth non buggy 4.1.2 is perfect enough for me.
Its already smooth, Now just fix the bugs.

I think xsp have a chance to get 4.3, for xs i dont think so
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denslife16 said:
I think xsp have a chance to get 4.3, for xs i dont think so
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xsp has already confirmed by sony.
for xs. don't hope too much.

*cricket sound* My ion still hasn't receive the JellyBean ion yet...even it is out at some country yet Sony said it have been rolling out,but why so long I also don't know...maybe they stop the JellyBean 4.1 update and gonna skip it to 4.3
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UchihaDareNial said:
*cricket sound* My ion still hasn't receive the JellyBean ion yet...even it is out at some country yet Sony said it have been rolling out,but why so long I also don't know...maybe they stop the JellyBean 4.1 update and gonna skip it to 4.3
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Haha, I guess we can continue to dream on until the day Sony confirms the doomday of Xperia Ion/S/Acro S!
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One reason some old devices had so much development was the fact all the source code was available. Now Qualcom is unlikely to give the source code to the dev community but Sony may be able to so this could come to the S3 chip devices. Yes I am being optimistic but it could happen and would help Sony establish itself in the device world. I just wish they would focus on less devices and create some really good phones with a longer life span. I don't get the concept of build 12 devices every year. It seems you could build four and cut more cost in parts and save a ton in development cost.

cikomiko said:
x10 reloaded? skip x.2 and give x.3 would be too nice, but a proper 4.1 update would do the job as well.
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Yea, Ive got the same situation in my mind as I was an owner of x10. Most of you guys dunno that x10 was running 1.6 then 2.1, then was said to be by SONY not efficient to run properly 2.2, but then they realised that it can run 2.3 smoothly- it was highly unexpected by anyone. Also x10 as i remember at first wasnt capable of using multitouch, but SONY also here surprised us and came up with multitouch few months after x10's release. I would say that most companies cannot afford to update every portfolio smartphone thay have with every android update i mean 4.0.X->4.1.X->4.2.X->4.3.X, but some of them are able to skip minor updays only for major one and so they do.
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HTC removed One S from their Android 4.2 update list because some models were with S3 processor.
There are very, very low chances (almost nonexistent) for official Android 4.3 for our Xperia's...
And that is not so much of Sony's fault, it's more Qualcoom... however, Xperia S had older processor even at the time of its launch so at the end it is Sony's fault
Guys, we have good 4.1.2 ROMs, some excellent and always progressing 4.2.2 ROMs, it is not so dark as you guys present it

switzerland92 said:
HTC removed One S from their Android 4.2 update list because some models were with S3 processor.
There are very, very low chances (almost nonexistent) for official Android 4.3 for our Xperia's...
And that is not so much of Sony's fault, it's more Qualcoom... however, Xperia S had older processor even at the time of its launch so at the end it is Sony's fault
Guys, we have good 4.1.2 ROMs, some excellent and always progressing 4.2.2 ROMs, it is not so dark as you guys present it
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What do you mean Sony's fault? You have the power to choose whether to buy Xperia S or not. Don't blame that on Sony.
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I'm guessing this thread has really said what 's got to say and those that have mentioned OpenGL ES 3.0 have really put the nails in the coffin on Android 4.3
Isn't there a thread in the general section dispelling even Android 4.2 updates from Sony for the XPERIA LT26i?
If Sony do a bang up job of getting this puppy to fly on Android 4.1.2, what more could we expect of a Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 chipset anyway.
And at the end of the day when the sun sets on the XPERIA S we have a bevy of excellent XDA developers that'll make sure the wheels don't fall off our trolley that is the XPERIA LT26i.
My XPERIA X10i (64GB MicroSD, 1.15GHz CPU, 1800mAh battery) is testament to that.

lee480 said:
What do you mean Sony's fault? You have the power to choose whether to buy Xperia S or not. Don't blame that on Sony.
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And I agre with you 100% for whenever to buy S or not. I just wanted to say that Sony decided which CPU will they put into their devices. They have chosen older generation. They didn't knew how long will Qualcoom support it and I think they didn't think they'll put som much time into upgrading 2012 Xperias.
But, to say Sony is completely innocent for not being able to provide 4.2 or 4.3 to Xperia S - I disagree.

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And I agre with you 100% for whenever to buy S or not. I just wanted to say that Sony decided which CPU will they put into their devices. They have chosen older generation. They didn't knew how long will Qualcoom support it and I think they didn't think they'll put som much time into upgrading 2012 Xperias.
But, to say Sony is completely innocent for not being able to provide 4.2 or 4.3 to Xperia S - I disagree.
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How is it Sony's fault Qualcomm didn't provide the CPU drivers? Xperia S is the first flagship of the ships launched early January. I know you have the urge that you must put the blame on someone, but do it correctly. This thread is about the direction and future of Xperia S and not "let's try to pinpoint and destroy Sony".
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[Information] Sony 4.3 , 4.4 Updates

So i decided to make this thread so people can read abou it...
It seems it is the end of the road for Sony xperia S
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11/07/on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4/

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But...Xperia ion doesn't even got proper jellybean 4.1.2 ...give us,Xperia ion user a 6.2.B.1.96 update T^T
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Hey, at least we received 3 major Android upgrades. This is ALMOST comparable to Galaxy Nexus which started off at 4.0 and ended 4.3. And you can't really blame Sony, Qualcomm didn't release new drivers for Snapdragon S3 SOCs.
I think it's time to move on, even Google is not updating the Galaxy Nexus even where its within the specification.

lee480 said:
Hey, at least we received 3 major Android upgrades. This is ALMOST comparable to Galaxy Nexus which started off at 4.0 and ended 4.3. And you can't really blame Sony, Qualcomm didn't release new drivers for Snapdragon S3 SOCs.
I think it's time to move on, even Google is not updating the Galaxy Nexus even where its within the specification.
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Ha ha.. sounds funny when u don't know the whole story.. Galaxy Nexus won't get 4.3 because Ti OMAP did what Qualcomm did to us.. Same thing.. No drivers from them.. So that being the main reason, Google covering it with 18 months reason.. Also pretty valid.. And for SONY which probably should have been released with 4.0 was released with 2.3, which they have done with all their flagships.. Z with 4.1 when 4.2 was already out, Z1 with 4.2 when 4.3 was out for months.. They are always a generation behind.. Hence we are forced to stay on 4.1.. Its like we only got 2 generations of OS.. Qualcomm might not have given drivers.. But 1 single person brought 4.2 and 4.3 for us, can't SONY, a big international NO.3 mobile company build one?? Lame reason i say.. Cheap parlor tricks.. We just have to fall for it..

as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship

franklin93 said:
as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship
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Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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abdulkadiro said:
Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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for me my xperia s is not even a year old so i will use as it is or flash new custom roms.its not slouch yet.as kitkat requires low hardware specs,xperia s is more than enough :highfive: lets rock this phone until its death

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Sony forcing us to sell our phones and never buy a sony product
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Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough

cezarry said:
Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough
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You r absolutely correct bro :good::good:

cezarry said:
Or <Sony forcing us to sell our phones and buy a newer sony product>
Of course I would be more than happy to hear about updating xperia s to 4.3 or 4.4, but it was never going to happen. And you know what? Thanks to developers such as @niaboc79 our xperia s is a great smartphone no matter how do you call the newest android version Maybe in a year from now I'll get xperia z1, z3 or z5, for now I'm really fully satisfied with what I have Of course there may be people who really need more power, more possibilities or more anything, and it's not a problem for me, but I think for average user our phone is still more than enough
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even for heavy user and gamer,its more than enough.i checked the xperia z1 camera its not big deal breaker compared to our xperia s.just my only concern with this awesome xperia s is its mediocre batery life.cant last a day but its all because of my heavy usage.4.30 hours of screen on time

As some people have been saying we still have ROMS.
And yeah the only thing i complain more is the battery but it is still a great phone...

btw, just something that i am always curious. If sony cant get 4.2, 4.3 4.4 to work, why do other developer managed to get it work?

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as expected,we r left at 4.1.2 same as samsung cheap phones,whats the difference ? getting a flagship
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This is why I'm done with Sony, man. Only flagship that was on GB at the time. WTF?

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btw, just something that i am always curious. If sony cant get 4.2, 4.3 4.4 to work, why do other developer managed to get it work?
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Well i am no expert but this is my take, as some people are stating Qualcomm isn't releasing any more drivers so Sony can't deliver an 100% stable version, developers release the most stable version possible but with customized drivers (which may not be perfect)

Well I think we all saw this coming. Been a nice ride though and I for one don't plan on getting rid of my Ion any time soon. A boot unlock sure would be nice though.

To be quite honest if the devs and community are still intact like it is currently for this device then no amount of of sony's paid devs can achieve what has and is being acheieved.
I believe the support of this great community of SXS owners and dedicated devs have made this device so much better than what Sony i still believe cannot achieve.
So a big Shout out to all the DeVS as they have done a fantastic job to a device that had posed a challenge to them thanks
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Sony 4.3/4.4 ROMs are never going to happen for our devices. We'll just have to rely on custom ROMs and ports.

I prefer the new kitkat over any Sony ROM.
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From what I have seen the only thing kit kat brings is a way to stop locked boot loader devices from being hacked. Things are going to get allot harder and we may all find our self's saving up for unlocked devices now. Kinda sucks if you ask me.

Official KitKat on Xperia M/Dual

Hey guys. Did you see Sony's details about KitKat? They said they were only mentioning the first few phones to get KitKat but do you think we'll get it in the new year? I remember past Sony updates did happen Dec-Feb.
http://www.sonyrumors.net/2013/11/06/kitkat-xperia-devices-features/

Sony News - On Jelly Bean 4.3 & Kit Kat 4.4…
If the Sony XPERIA M/Dual was to be upgraded to Android v4.4 [on paper] we'd have a very efficient phone.
Android v4.3 and Android v4.4 are about refining the existing implementation of Android.
It's just the number of little things like Miracast certification, OpenGL ES 3.0, optimised 2D rendering, memory optimisation and etc, that would make an already very competent phone a true delight to own.
I for one will be very interested to read where Sony decides to slot the XPERIA M regarding future Android OS updates, as Android v4.4 is really tailor make for such a device (as I read it)
The XPERIA L, XPERIA M and XPERIA C are all very conspicuous in their absence of any mention, regarded future Android upgrades.

There only problem for the big manufacturers is that revamping low-mid range phones with a streamlined version of android means they sell less because people change less often as their device that was on the way out now functions better than it did new.
I'm not really taking about the xperia M as this is still very new but I wouldn't be surprised if Sony only updated this years phones to 4.4. Tbh anything older probably has more dev work anyway so experienced users will get it via a ton instead of a don't release. Unfortunately we're probably low priority for Sony to update soon (all the flagships will come first) being a mid-low end phone and we also don't have substantial ROM support yet either to get it via CM or AOSP or Slimroms right now. It'll be interesting how it plays out and what we get when.
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As for the M not being mentioned, they did say that it is just the first wave of devices, not the last. For any of us that owned Xperia phones in the last few years, you will have seen that the more expensive devices tend to go first, it's not unusual.
Besides the M and Dual, there is the L and C. I would be stunned if these devices get left on 4.1-4.3. I'd be happy with KitKat. :victory:

looks like it will take long time for xperia m, first wave of xperia phone its for z series (from now on).. maybe next years we will get that feature and the only we can do now is just waiting

I think no one will you Stock when CM or AOSP arrives. So dont fuss on sony and dont make this discussion long.
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My friend got the Xperia Z months ago. I asked him did he have any custom ROMs. He said no and I asked why. He said that everything works great on his phone on stock firmware.
I've owned Xperia phones from every year. Every year I used custom ROMs. Until this year, that is. With the stock firmware on this phone, I have no desire to try custom ROMs. Now I understand what my friend meant.
Some of us like stock firmware. Plus, it's a bonus that you know you can send your phone for official repair and they won't reject it because you modified the phone.

I feel same for my xperia M not in the mood of customizing it yet

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My friend got the Xperia Z months ago. I asked him did he have any custom ROMs. He said no and I asked why. He said that everything works great on his phone on stock firmware.
I've owned Xperia phones from every year. Every year I used custom ROMs. Until this year, that is. With the stock firmware on this phone, I have no desire to try custom ROMs. Now I understand what my friend meant.
Some of us like stock firmware. Plus, it's a bonus that you know you can send your phone for official repair and they won't reject it because you modified the phone.
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I think you are missing one crucial point. That price difference between Z and M. The update support Z gets as compare to M is huge. Thats why custom roms are made. So if you want regular update get Z.
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No news, could still be good news.
Sony has started to identify potential Android upgrade paths on the software support pages for circa 2013 phones.
Again it is noted that all is quiet(22-NOV) on the XPERIA M front with no new information at this time.
Example of the Sony XPERIA SP Android upgrade path seen towards the bottom of the web page.

Extending Internal Memory on Xperia M dual
Guys, i need to extend my internal Memory in Sony Xperia M dual without rooting...Is there any possibilities there in order to play huge size games and also to store more apps on my SD card...

shanraviappu said:
Guys, i need to extend my internal Memory in Sony Xperia M dual without rooting...Is there any possibilities there in order to play huge size games and also to store more apps on my SD card...
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no...
y dontt u root the phone?
its easy to unroot[the warranty will not be void]

Dr Goodvibes said:
Sony has started to identify potential Android upgrade paths on the software support pages for circa 2013 phones.
Again it is noted that all is quiet(22-NOV) on the XPERIA M front with no new information at this time.
Example of the Sony XPERIA SP Android upgrade path seen towards the bottom of the web page.
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I(not an informed rep) note the XPERIA M is the only Android device using the MSM8227 SoC that I can find... Oh dear.
Maybe Qualcomm will just bin any Android upgrade support, if it requires to much effort for so few Android devices..
This could mean the Sony XPERIA M may be one of the few phones not to advance beyond the Android version it was released on.
This is just something to think about as I'm NOT an engineer and so don't go running off waving your hands about screaming the sky is falling... it's just my observation and something to consider.
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You're just summoning another ****storm on the forums.
This post is inaccurate, to say at least, in its entirety, as the M model IS IN FACT getting Android 4.3 in the first quarter of 2014.

ToastnButter said:
You're just summoning another ****storm on the forums.
This post is inaccurate, to say at least, in its entirety, as the M model IS IN FACT getting Android 4.3 in the first quarter of 2014.
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? who said this? how do u know about update?

ansebovi said:
? who said this? how do u know about update?
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I saw it on here.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony...d-4-3-for-Xperia-M-T-E-Dual-More-392821.shtml
But according to this Xperia L should of recieved its 4.3 update or may be getting it soon (before 2014), but Sony's Official post never mentioned any update for the Xperia L.

MahaDEVELOPER said:
I saw it on here.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony...d-4-3-for-Xperia-M-T-E-Dual-More-392821.shtml
But according to this Xperia L should of recieved its 4.3 update or may be getting it soon (before 2014), but Sony's Official post never mentioned any update for the Xperia L.
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DONT BELIEVE SOME SITES INFO...its the proven fake image..
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage...-4-3-for-Xperia-M-T-E-Dual-More-392821-2.jpg/
see the full image...
it shows the xperia sp no update lol....
it will get 4.3 and 4.4
and see V no update...but even it will get 4.3..
xperia L yes in q4 of 2013 ....lol sony doesnt even thinking of update for now...
and there are 2 xperia T in it..
the first one it states that the update will release on the 4th quarter whereas the last one states as No 4.3 release for Xperia T

Dr Goodvibes said:
Sony has started to identify potential Android upgrade paths on the software support pages for circa 2013 phones.
Again it is noted that all is quiet(22-NOV) on the XPERIA M front with no new information at this time.
Example of the Sony XPERIA SP Android upgrade path seen towards the bottom of the web page.
[Update]
My observation was not well received so I removed it.
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I hope that that poster didn't get away with it. That's ridiculous. Since when is it not possible to post an opinion/guess/observation?
Yep, any of us that have owned Xperia 2012/2013 devices may have noticed that mid-tier devices often do get upgrades to major Android revisions, just not the first batch, which makes sense. I think the M will get it, maybe March or so.

Dudes/Dudettes, we're all good.
I didn't really like my own comment that much anyway.
I just worded my retraction poorly and come across as a bit of a drama queen. Fixed it now.
We're in a highly speculate thread until Sony provides confirmation on the direction the XPERIA M will take, so we can except augments from all points of view.
The truth is out there, hopefully we'll know soon.

SharpnShiny said:
I hope that that poster didn't get away with it. That's ridiculous. Since when is it not possible to post an opinion/guess/observation?
Yep, any of us that have owned Xperia 2012/2013 devices may have noticed that mid-tier devices often do get upgrades to major Android revisions, just not the first batch, which makes sense. I think the M will get it, maybe March or so.
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Dr Goodvibes said:
Dudes/Dudettes, we're all good.
I didn't really like my own comment that much anyway.
I just worded my retraction poorly and come across as a bit of a drama queen. Fixed it now.
We're in a highly speculate thread until Sony provides confirmation on the direction the XPERIA M will take, so we can except augments from all points of view.
The truth is out there, hopefully we'll know soon.
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guys Xperia M is not mid tier to sony..
for them 15000+ is mid tier..
if u see the list for update they has plan to update SP,T,TX,V
all are 15000+
they missed their J,miro...which 15000-
what i m saying is just dont have too much believe and get angry on sony,and dont believe the some sites info...
just wait for <1 year we can see whether SONY give or not giving the update to Xperia M..
but i hope they would alteast give any one update to M like 4.3 or 4.4 in future ... since they didnt update Xperia M to 4.2[maybe planning to jump version instead of wasting time in 4.2]

So what is the Xperia E? The E and M are definitely not even close in terms of specs.
Maybe it's market-dependent. I live in Europe. Here, roughly the prices are:
Xperia E- €60
Xperia M - €250
Xperia SP €350
Xperia Z - €500
The Xperia M is mid-tier in Europe. In no universe is a €250 phone budget. I cannot be sure of every maket outside Europe but I can be here.
p.s. The Xperia Go in 2013 was updated to JellyBean. That was mid-tier.

ok this time theirs no excuse!! for no kitkat

ok ok so i see that Sony Ericsson Live can go to kitkat!? and it's up to par if not weaker then the our play and we dont have it yet!?
See for your self
Spec compare
this is really discouraging

well the only excuse for kit kat is no developers here
but we may get the 4.4 soon as no body at all is going to get xperia play and port 3.4 kernel to it like what he did for all other 2011 devices :victory:

Our devs seem to be on vacation or have broken phones, and my phones not to far away from death.
R800Z

man
i'm already on galaxt note 3 and will never , NEVER , NEVER back to sony

This definitely seems to be the end of the line for the Play :'(
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app

Tons of us still use this phone daily and rabidly wait for updates...
Any devs reading this, your work is still appreciated.
I too have many negative feelings toward Sony for their having abandoned the Xperia Play. It was basically a range-topping flag ship of a phone and they just turned their back on it. I haven't personally given Sony a dollar since I bought a PS3 for the Blueray player waaay back when. Got my XPs second hand.

Sony will never upgrade the Xplay to ICS, JB or KitKat simply because the Xplay is a gaming device and newer versions of Android are too "heavy" to keep the same gaming performance as in GB, but the Xplay's hardware can actually run ICS and JB.
And personally I'm agreed with them, if someone wants ICS or JB in his Xplay just use a custom ROM but gaming will never be the same as in GB, guaranteed.
Try playing games like GTA III on a GB ROM and then on a ICS ROM, you'll notice MUCH difference (ICS will lag a lot).
Since the Xplay is a gaming device, there's no point on upgrading it to newer versions of Android if gaming performance will be compromised, that's it.
Anyway I really appreciate dev's work on the Xplay and I'm glad to see that this phone isn't dead yet.
P.S. sorry for my bad english, hope you understand

i for a fact know that anything above GB will kill gaming, just look at native ps1 support for ICS. but im the type of person who loves to push my electronics to the limit, laptops, consoles and phones. i dont plan to keep the Kitkat i just want to say "i was there" and to never under estimate a phone because of its specs. and perhaps theirs some people that for whatever reason dont game on the xperia play. just my 2 cents but me sitting here complaining about not having kitkat is not speeding up production lol. i wish i knew more about linux and how to compile form source.

@xdarkmario @pedyvirus @WhiteWashed @bonapartist @mehdi.moha
Guys.. for sure.. nw we hav a working touchscreen in 3.4 Kernel.. thanks to nobodyAtAll .. so we would be getting a Kit Kat Rom.. no more excuses this time

yes we have no more excuse this time
achotjan has xperia play too so we can see a working xperia overlay 4.4.2 too :victory:
also 4.4 roms are going to come to our play too :victory: (well there are many 4.4 roms that they are waiting for me to port them )

ooooh happy days!! :victory: now all we wait for is a kitkat rom!:good:

pedyvirus said:
yes we have no more excuse this time
achotjan has xperia play too so we can see a working xperia overlay 4.4.2 too :victory:
also 4.4 roms are going to come to our play too :victory: (well there are many 4.4 roms that they are waiting for me to port them )
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I hope so coz my xperia play is feeling outdated

They do this because they want people to buy their ****ty PSPs