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[Q] If I purchase the google play edition, will I receive quickly any update?

Hi, I want a phone with Android stock, and good specs, I was thinking about a Samsung Galaxy S4 GOOGLE play edition, but I'd like to know, if anyone from here have it, and if it's like having a Nexus, where all the updates will be received as soon as Google release them, and not like Samsung that I must wait months for them? thanks in advanced.

saman0suke1 said:
Hi, I want a phone with Android stock, and good specs, I was thinking about a Samsung Galaxy S4 GOOGLE play edition, but I'd like to know, if anyone from here have it, and if it's like having a Nexus, where all the updates will be received as soon as Google release them, and not like Samsung that I must wait months for them? thanks in advanced.
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Updates to your phone's operating system are released by your cellphone carrier, not Samsung. Samsung releases their updates, which are then modified by each phone company to meet their unique needs, and then are released.
Some phone companies are better than others about releasing updates. Phones in Europe tend to get updated first, which allows people in the US to load those international ROMs, but they usually are missing the US carriers' special "features" (sometimes known as "bloatware"). Of course, you have to be rooted and willing to accept the risk associated with loading third-party ROMs to use those in the US.
For example, the international version of the latest ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S4 works on US phones, but does not have T-Mobile's wifi calling feature because T-Mobile has not yet released their version. Other carriers have released their version of that update, but T-Mobile has not.

RiverCity.45 said:
Updates to your phone's operating system are released by your cellphone carrier, not Samsung. Samsung releases their updates, which are then modified by each phone company to meet their unique needs, and then are released.
Some phone companies are better than others about releasing updates. Phones in Europe tend to get updated first, which allows people in the US to load those international ROMs, but they usually are missing the US carriers' special "features" (sometimes known as "bloatware"). Of course, you have to be rooted and willing to accept the risk associated with loading third-party ROMs to use those in the US.
For example, the international version of the latest ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S4 works on US phones, but does not have T-Mobile's wifi calling feature because T-Mobile has not yet released their version. Other carriers have released their version of that update, but T-Mobile has not.
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So,does that mean that, even If I get an "Android stock" phone, it depends on my carrier to receive or not the latest updates? thanks, sorry for the lack of knowledge regarding this!

saman0suke1 said:
So,does that mean that, even If I get an "Android stock" phone, it depends on my carrier to receive or not the latest updates? thanks, sorry for the lack of knowledge regarding this!
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No, he is incorrect for the Google Play Edition Galaxy S4, if you buy the Play edition, you will get the latest Android version about a week or two after nexus devices receive them, since it is contract free, no carrier can control the updates. Instead, Google gives the code to Samsung and they then release the update for the Play edition S4.
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iPwnapple said:
No, he is incorrect for the Google Play Edition Galaxy S4, if you buy the Play edition, you will get the latest Android version about a week or two after nexus devices receive them, since it is contract free, no carrier can control the updates. Instead, Google gives the code to Samsung and they then release the update for the Play edition S4.
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That's what I'm looking for, first of all, I don't like the Touchwiz UI, and then I always have to wait a lot for the updates, so, is this the way how it works? thanks!

saman0suke1 said:
That's what I'm looking for, first of all, I don't like the Touchwiz UI, and then I always have to wait a lot for the updates, so, is this the way how it works? thanks!
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Yup, Google gives Samsung the latest Android version and then they work on it to add some additional features, such as S-view functionality and they release it normally a week or two after nexus devices, which is much faster than the normal S4.
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Yup, Google gives Samsung the latest Android version and then they work on it to add some additional features, such as S-view functionality and they release it normally a week or two after nexus devices, which is much faster than the normal S4.
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But they do not convert it to TouchWiz right? I know that there is the HTC One Google play and the Nexus 4 as well, but I guess the most powerful between these is the S4 right now, do you know if all the Samsung Galaxy Note 3's comes with Android stock? I read something about it, but this is offtopic really, thanks!

saman0suke1 said:
But they do not convert it to TouchWiz right? I know that there is the HTC One Google play and the Nexus 4 as well, but I guess the most powerful between these is the S4 right now, do you know if all the Samsung Galaxy Note 3's comes with Android stock? I read something about it, but this is offtopic really, thanks!
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Technically it is touchwiz without the theme, Samsung basically uses the touchwiz framework but use the stock AOSP theme instead of their own, but it will NOT look like touchwiz, it only uses the framework, but will look like AOSP, and the user interface on the Nexus 4. No, the Galaxy Note 3 will not come with stock Android, it will come with touchwiz and all its features that Samsung has planned for it. Unless they release a Google Play Edition of the Note 3.
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Technically it is touchwiz without the theme, Samsung basically uses the touchwiz framework but use the stock AOSP theme instead of their own, but it will NOT look like touchwiz, it only uses the framework, but will look like AOSP, and the user interface on the Nexus 4. No, the Galaxy Note 3 will not come with stock Android, it will come with touchwiz and all its features that Samsung has planned for it. Unless they release a Google Play Edition of the Note 3.
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Do you know if this Google Play S4 is as "open" as the Nexus in which an Ubuntu version can be installed without major problems? thanks!

Galaxy Nexus Gets Updated GPU Binaries, To Breath Life into the Two-Year Old Phone

As always, XDA is up to some good stuff with a new release of Android now available. Some developers are finding what appears to be updated binaries for the GPU that’s inside the Galaxy Nexus. KitKat was announced last week, and surprisingly, Google decided to drop support for the Galaxy Nexus. It’s surprising because KitKat can run on devices with 256MB of RAM, which the Galaxy Nexus has a full gigabyte of RAM available. We’ve already seen numerous custom ROMs flowing out for KitKat on the Galaxy Nexus. And it’s not just for the GSM Galaxy Nexus, but also the Verizon (Toro) and Sprint (Toroplus) versions.
It appears that Texas Instruments have updated the GPU binaries for the Galaxy Nexus. Now, Google may not have known that TI was going to update it or Google may not have told TI that they had given up on the two-year old device. But either way, developers are hard at work building an updated kernel that might help solve some of the graphical issues with KitKat on the Galaxy Nexus.
If you’re one of those many people out there still rocking the Galaxy Nexus, and not wanting to give it up just yet. It looks like you might get Christmas a bit early. As the new GPU binaries should definitely help out the Galaxy Nexus. Although, if you’ve held onto it this long, you’re probably due for an upgrade, since the device was released in November 2011. Hopefully this will help people get a long a bit more until the device finally chokes.
This is another reason why we love the developer community around Android. You won’t find a developer community like this behind the iPhone or anything iOS related. Back before I started here at AH, I had a couple of devices in which the manufacturer had given up on the device, but developers had continued to support it for years. Which was quite nice.

Is it real? It would be a big deal !
Do any ROM developers confirm it yet?

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Is it real?
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I sure hope its real!

Haven't heard much lately on this just what hashcode said and he didn't sound too promising. One ROM developer I seen tried it but was beyond his skills
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Nothing is impossible ...
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I'm still very much active on this , its true its beyond my skill but that's how I learn . I'm hands on all the way , my nexus stays with the battery cover off 50% of the time lol , so don't fret , there might be hope yet .......
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Will they solve glitches totaly?

krialix said:
Will they solve glitches totaly?
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No one knows that

I would like to thank everyone that is working to make this happen!

this is outdated news
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...possibly-aid-galaxy-nexus-kitkat-development/
please read the hashcode's reply
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47160722&postcount=309
new drivers are for Jellybean and not for KitKat

Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update

Spoderman said:
Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update
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I would prefer updated Jellybean with updated drivers and with no WiFi/GPS/connectivity issues... hope Google will release a more stable Jellybean

Spoderman said:
Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update
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I was thinking same thing.
Even of they ARE only good for4.2/4.3 improvements, I'd love to see them incorporated

Petition for android kitkat on our galaxy grand

When the kitkat is compatible even on 512mb ram devices, our grand has got such a good ram and it has pretty large user's, why can't we..! This is not fair by the Samsung...! When our competitor micromax canvas 2 is getting kitkat(micromax has announced the list) why can't we.? Samsung look towards only its high end devices like s3,s4, note2 and note3.. its partial towards their high end customers...! Samsung is looking only to increase their sales not continued support for their customers, so it has launched grand lite/neo..!
So this is the petition to upgrade our firmware to 4.4 kitkat.. who are all with me.?
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vinay_kumar said:
When the kitkat is compatible even on 512mb ram devices, our grand has got such a good ram and it has pretty large user's, why can't we..! This is not fair by the Samsung...! When our competitor micromax canvas 2 is getting kitkat(micromax has announced the list) why can't we.? Samsung look towards only its high end devices like s3,s4, note2 and note3.. its partial towards their high end customers...! Samsung is looking only to increase their sales not continued support for their customers, so it has launched grand lite/neo..!
So this is the petition to upgrade our firmware to 4.4 kitkat.. who are all with me.?
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Haha....well LOL brother..its really decent of u who thinks that way and just for that started a new thread....but its not gonna make samsung change there mind...
1st. The samsung giving kitkat only to those four phones is not completely true...
Yes first they will release for those devices...obvious it would be really weird for all those people who purchased there s4 or note 3 ,and samsung gives kitkat not to them first but us ..
2. Its just first installment lets say...its nothing like only these devices will get kitkat...many more devices will get but in later future...they will get the priority as they are flagships...
3.. Any way its universal truth that samsung updates are always late ...google releases kitkat and many devices gets it, still it takes months for Sammy's devices to get the same (bcoz OEMs takes time)...
So just wait and wait if Samsung declares the confirmed list with names of devices which will get kitkat ,after these flagships....
Though its a good gesture u are concerned about it, but starting a new thread just for poll is not required ..
No offence buddy..i am with u...
But lets start developing by ourselves rather than waiting for these companies to do for us..
If pawitp , xenon92 and k2wl would have thought the same , and if they would have just sit on there homes and just make a thread like this one and vote, then i dont think we would have got all these kitkat roms (kudos to all )....
Hope u get what i am saying...
No offense ...
With your cause xD ..
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When Grand 2 will get Kitkat (and it will) we will only get JB 4.3... I think. Developing updates is a money loss for all companies and they prefer to release a sequel device instead.
Besides Grand's main market is for ordinary people in developing countries... And ordinary people doesn't really care about Kitkat anyway, as long as the apps they want work well on their devices. Vast majority of apps still work on JB 4.2.2. And it will be for a few years ahead. Hell, there are even some people who still uses Froyo.
The choice to not update our device makes sense (economically) for Samsung. All companies are built for profit, not for loss, and because of the nature of Samsung itself (a mainly hardware company, not software company i.e. Google) they only get the money from selling as many devices as they can.
You probably should've bought a Nexus device.
And btw, this should be in the general section.

Am totally agreeing with u.Sure u can file a complaint throug samsung official website its simple and it's all what we could do to get atleast 4.3 or a fix for performance. Till recent 4.2udate device is laggy so it's a nice idea

By the way Google havnt updated its Galaxy Nexus to KiTKaT
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simplyanin said:
By the way Google havnt updated its Galaxy Nexus to KiTKaT
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It won't get Kitkat... at least officially. Google said so.

Guyz samsung will be soon giving us de 4.4 update....
I hav read it on net....

nrathod3 said:
Guyz samsung will be soon giving us de 4.4 update....
I hav read it on net....
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We can not rely on random sites brothr...
If its not on samsung site....it's nt true ..
BTW.. Evn if 4. 4 comes...unless and untill it has really diffrnt stuffs and features.....i dont think i ll be using it..
I ll still stick to AOSP ports by our devs ..kudos
Or try for debloted rom with some extra features by balliboxer ..that guy really is a gun #respect ...
N till 4.4.2 comes on our device... Maybe a new android will be introduced by that time
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raghavsharmaxda said:
We can not rely on random sites brothr...
If its not on samsung site....it's nt true ..
BTW.. Evn if 4. 4 comes...unless and untill it has really diffrnt stuffs and features.....i dont think i ll be using it..
I ll still stick to AOSP ports by our devs ..kudos
Or try for debloted rom with some extra features by balliboxer ..that guy really is a gun #respect ...
N till 4.4.2 comes on our device... Maybe a new android will be introduced by that time
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Who cares........there is nothing fancy in kitkat

tharmor said:
Who cares........there is nothing fancy in kitkat
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Well..if officially we get kitkay.. then our current roms will be updated too(maybe)..
Drivers and all cud be used to fix several bugs and significantly performance cud b increased...
Many ppl arent able to use custom roms because they don't have dual sim..but this one will have.. Not to forget the process load will be lesser and so over all it will be good!
Sorry if i m wrong
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tharmor said:
Who cares........there is nothing fancy in kitkat
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Exactly.
AOSP and its derivations of Kitkat are just plain JB 4.3 with minor features (ART, printing, white interface, etc.). Most of the Google features are already updated via Google Play Store. So nowadays there's really no reason to rush the upgrade to Google's latest and greatest, because we already have almost all of Google's Kitkat features distributed via Play Store. These are i.e. Google Keyboard, Camera, Photos, Calendar, Hangouts, etc.
It has some upsides:
- People who are stuck in earlier Android versions can taste some of Google's latest features without upgrading the Android version.
- People who are tied to carrier restrictions can now bypass that and get the latest Google features
- These apps will be updated more frequently than the Android version.
- It will be more lawsuit-proof. All of these apps are now copyrighted by Google and closed source, meaning no other companies can copy any of the apps features without asking Google. It was different in the past when it was all open source, everybody can copy and derive (with author credits of course)
And the downsides is that this is bad for developers community because we're now more dependent to Google Apps than ever before...

vinay_kumar said:
When the kitkat is compatible even on 512mb ram devices, our grand has got such a good ram and it has pretty large user's, why can't we..! This is not fair by the Samsung...! When our competitor micromax canvas 2 is getting kitkat(micromax has announced the list) why can't we.? Samsung look towards only its high end devices like s3,s4, note2 and note3.. its partial towards their high end customers...! Samsung is looking only to increase their sales not continued support for their customers, so it has launched grand lite/neo..!
So this is the petition to upgrade our firmware to 4.4 kitkat.. who are all with me.?
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Do you know anything about marketing?
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donnie.darko said:
Do you know anything about marketing?
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Nope, why.?
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Do you know anything about marketing?
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Mahn..if u think that this all new releases of lite/grand 2 is marketing ..then i would laugh at samsung for its poor marketing ..
Stats shows that their sales last year were 18-23% less then last to last year..
S4 didnt sell that well..and making bunch of less powerful phones rather then making one powerful mobile is worst strategy ever...people who live in developing countries (like india) ended up purchasing these poor performance mobiles rather than waiting and saving for a big one (and that's why many good handsets didnt set record as they were supposed to)..giving my example :|..
I was thinking to save so that i could take a good mobile...waited, so that can take a cool sammy phone (coz they are powerful)..
I ended up taking this mobile coz it had released and was in Budget ,rather then saving and getting good one(that was a way too far road )..
So marketing word..is something turns out Samsung has forgot..
Just 1 exynos chip dual core in grand and 720p resolution for 5" screen was 100times better then what they made today... It was okay then if device was a bit costlier too..(at least ppl wudnt hav ended up taking a cell with not that grt power ).. Alot alot of thanks to developers out there who gave there sooo precious time just so that i didnt sold my grand ...all thanks to them mahn..
Yea..so u were telling something about marketing ..
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+1

raghavsharmaxda said:
Mahn..if u think that this all new releases of lite/grand 2 is marketing ..then i would laugh at samsung for its poor marketing ..
Stats shows that their sales last year were 18-23% less then last to last year..
S4 didnt sell that well..and making bunch of less powerful phones rather then making one powerful mobile is worst strategy ever...people who live in developing countries (like india) ended up purchasing these poor performance mobiles rather than waiting and saving for a big one (and that's why many good handsets didnt set record as they were supposed to)..giving my example :|..
I was thinking to save so that i could take a good mobile...waited, so that can take a cool sammy phone (coz they are powerful)..
I ended up taking this mobile coz it had released and was in Budget ,rather then saving and getting good one(that was a way too far road )..
So marketing word..is something turns out Samsung has forgot..
Just 1 exynos chip dual core in grand and 720p resolution for 5" screen was 100times better then what they made today... It was okay then if device was a bit costlier too..(at least ppl wudnt hav ended up taking a cell with not that grt power ).. Alot alot of thanks to developers out there who gave there sooo precious time just so that i didnt sold my grand ...all thanks to them mahn..
Yea..so u were telling something about marketing ..
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+1 too...!

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+1 too...!
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Companhies are filling the market with mid-end mobiles like xperia models, motoX from motorola, and others are coming to Brazil for a fraction of a High end device and still good qualities, exactly as said before.
The only one thing bothers me on Grand Duos is lacking of memory management. Even maintaining a controlled number of applications, sometimes I have to close the active ones so the phone can become slower or unresponsive. I´m using 4.2.2 from TIM carrier, Brazil.
I greenified some applications but still a little laggy sometimes, so Kitkat seems a hope for me, but I need dual sim funcionallity, so I need to wait the update, or change for another nexus based model.

I also think our phone will not get kitkat
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Only regret i have on this device is its screwn resolution and broadcomm chipset...which are the main reasons why we dont get official custom roms/high quality game support....thats the main reason whyy...!
I ll keep thia device anyway for few months more and will take moto g or something!..
Abt the petition... Lets see what happens..
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my first phone ill always keep it...and why not if we get such awesome roms!

[Q] When is it released? The Kitkat for Note 8.0

I'm really looking forward to KITKAT..

Nobody knows when or even if KitKat will be released for this tablet. Samsung does not provide timelines, the only way we know is through leaks. There haven't been any to my knowledge.

I doubt we will get it since we didn't get 4.3. Last time I buy a Samsung tablet
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Samsung already forgot this machine.
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I think you guys are being a bit melodramatic. You have a perfectly functional tablet that doesn't have any outwardly obvious bugs or other problems. I bet you use it with no problems. Sure, it's nice to have the latest update, but it's not like you have significantly outdated software that limits your usage of the tablet. And should 4.4 land on this tab (for the record, I think it will), you guys will be happy for all of about 5 minutes and move on with your day. And of course as soon as a new minor update drops, the *****fest will begin again.
I am running custom build 4.4.2 on my Galaxy S4. Outside of some UI tweaks and ART, it brings nothing significant to the table.

Thats the attitude HTC had just before they started losing tons of money
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Thats the attitude HTC had just before they started losing tons of money
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There are many reasons why HTC is failing, but if this is even a reason, it's an insignificant one. Samsung has never been truly up to date on updates, yet they are second only to Apple in the amount of high-end devices sold. Most people, myself included don't really care whether we are on the latest version. We just care that our devices perform well and do what we need them to do. I only complain if an update screws something up.
And lets be honest here: you are running the latest version of all of the Google Apps. It's not like you are stuck on Gingerbread and being on Jelly Bean does not limit you in any way. KitKat will not boost your battery life, will likely not make your device faster, and does not add any significant features that would make a difference in your usage of the device. So what's the real issue? Because it's not that you are unhappy with your tablet.

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I think you guys are being a bit melodramatic. You have a perfectly functional tablet that doesn't have any outwardly obvious bugs or other problems. I bet you use it with no problems. Sure, it's nice to have the latest update, but it's not like you have significantly outdated software that limits your usage of the tablet. And should 4.4 land on this tab (for the record, I think it will), you guys will be happy for all of about 5 minutes and move on with your day. And of course as soon as a new minor update drops, the *****fest will begin again.
I am running custom build 4.4.2 on my Galaxy S4. Outside of some UI tweaks and ART, it brings nothing significant to the table.
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I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.

esoh said:
I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.
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I fully understand your concern. I have the Wifi-only tab and am on 4.2. I did not experience your issues with 4.1 but I do know that others have. The thing is, problems have to get fixed, and it's a shame that you are still dealing with them. I don't know if it's AT&T or Samsung in your case that's at fault though. My point was more to the effect that I don't care for software updates just for the sake of having a slight bump in version number.

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I wish that was the case but it's not. I'm on the AT&T variant, and I'm still on 4.1.2. I have screen freezes (real and documented) and battery life isn't great. With that said, I haven't piled on the *****fest. But no matter what, this device really needs to get upgraded. I blame AT&T more than Sammy, but there is no reason why I should still be on 4.1.2 with a device that was announced in June 2013 with absolutely no word on when we'll get an update (either to 4.2, 4.3, or KK). That's pretty shameful. And with no releases of any kinds of source code or device info, we have no unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs. So, I'm basically on 2013 hardware with 2012 code.
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Agreed. I am on the At&t Note 8.0 variant also and I too have freezes and lag. With that being said I know that At&t and Samsung don't have the best business relationship dye At&t loyalty to Apple. So an update may or may not come. If it does let's hope that At&t don't block or rip it up like they do with all Samsung updates
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I got wifi only and I get freezes. The way to unfreeze is to turn the orientation of the note to landscape from horizontal and vice versa. I really wish for an update to fix that. And Yes htc has tons of problems but I believe the slow ass updates were the biggest driver of their customers (at least those who root their devices) to Samsung. Those people are also quite influential with their peers on recommendations
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Lollipop CONFIRMED for the Note 2

http://phandroid.com/2014/12/23/samsung-galaxy-note-2-android-5-0-lollipop-update/
Thought everyone would like to know.
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Ahh. All this time I have resisted updating. Now, I may give this old phone one last shot. That is if at&t or some nice devs do thier work..
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Facts, it all depends on AT&T if they want to do any damn work. We may not see Lollipop until maybe mid 2015, if at all.

There are quite a few CM12 Lollipop builds for the Note 2 as of right now. However, there still needs to be some ironing of bugs. The only bug that is critical for me is netflix

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There are quite a few CM12 Lollipop builds for the Note 2 as of right now. However, there still needs to be some ironing of bugs. The only bug that is critical for me is netflix
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Probably just me, but I like running stock, with a few mods and debloated

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Probably just me, but I like running stock, with a few mods and debloated
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cm12 5.0.2 is just like Nexus 4 , 5 , 6 Rom , clean and working perfect , No Touchwiz
I disliked 4.4.2 TW rom because id have to charge my phone every 5 hours , with a GPE or Pure Android Rom i get 25 + on one charge

Joshua Mr PC Repair said:
cm12 5.0.2 is just like Nexus 4 , 5 , 6 Rom , clean and working perfect , No Touchwiz
I disliked 4.4.2 TW rom because id have to charge my phone every 5 hours , with a GPE or Pure Android Rom i get 25 + on one charge
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I have the Laza battery so I don't have that problem lmao. I also do get 2 days worth of charge on TouchWiz. It's all on how you use it compadre.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/samsun...-update-device-confirmed-get-new-build-454655
We'll see. I'l believe it when I see it

Are they saying they are going to update the LTE variants?

Where's my update ???....
Oh...I've got AT$T....so that means I'll be dead before they ever drop an update. ...lol...g

I was thinking of upgrading to a note 4 or mega but I think I'll just stop buying Samsung phones if att Note 2 doesn't get Lollipop or a leak within 6-12 months. Or atleast know for sure it will come.. because I keep hearing conflicting info... like it's still up in the air whether we will get it.
I might get an LG flex or Sony ultra z next....basically anything that isn't Samsung.

Like I said, I'll believe i when I see it.

The Note 2 is passed the 18-month updates requirement by Google. If it gets it, it will be a bonus but don't bet your money on it.

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The Note 2 is passed the 18-month updates requirement by Google. If it gets it, it will be a bonus but don't bet your money on it.
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Google updates don't apply to Samsung flagships since, well, the Note 2 isn't a Google phone (Nexus). And that 18 month thing is arbitrary. Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 still had the update despite passing that update window.