while surfing I found this http://www.crazyengineers.com/threads/your-low-end-device-might-get-kit-kat-4-4-update.70812/
it says galaxy y night (it's only nominated) to get the update.
It was said that android 4.4 is optimized to consume little memory and work in low end devices
I an mot sure this is real but I aslso found it in another websites
1 .http://www.google.com.eg/url?sa=t&r...=z15BANBHOrnXjt-gIknHyQ&bvm=bv.53217764,d.bGE
2.http://crocksz.com/index.php/nominated-galaxy-devices-android-4-4-kitkat/
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this is advance joke for the new year 2014...
imElectronica said:
this is advance joke for the new year 2014...
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Mostly it is a joke but google said kitkat will be optimized to work in low end devices smoothly. so , let's just wait
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Nice joke by Google but if may it is real!! Then Samsung never give us that update!!
& I think kitkat also required 512 mb Rom !! Ok let 400 mb...... Ok low end device..... Lets take 300mb!!
But or phone have only 240 mb Rom !! So its very difficult to get that!! Coz I think Rom can't be increase by partition !! If it happens that every phone gets every update for latest android version.
Lets wait for our galaxy y / duos R.I.P 's day and then buy a high end device!! :'(
if this is not fake..then i am waiting for new update nd so exciated also.
imElectronica said:
if this is not fake..then i am waiting for new update nd so exciated also.
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Get excited about learning English too.
Ok!! Now I also view other two links!!
Dude!! There is far difference between y / y duos and young / young duos!!
Galaxy Young is a new series phone having 4.1 android , 756 mb ram , 512mb Rom, amrv7 processor!!
Not our y duos/y !! :'( :-[
So, please don't sit with any hope.... I don't wanna to disappoint u but...... What ever lets wait!!
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Nice joke by Google but if may it is real!! Then Samsung never give us that update!!
& I think kitkat also required 512 mb Rom !! Ok let 400 mb...... Ok low end device..... Lets take 300mb!!
But or phone have only 240 mb Rom !! So its very difficult to get that!! Coz I think Rom can't be increase by partition !! If it happens that every phone gets every update for latest android version.
Lets wait for our galaxy y / duos R.I.P 's day and then buy a high end device!! :'(
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Ok!! Now I also view other two links!!
Dude!! There is far difference between y / y duos and young / young duos!!
Galaxy Young is a new series phone having 4.1 android , 756 mb ram , 512mb Rom, amrv7 processor!!
Not our y duos/y !! :'( :-[
So, please don't sit with any hope.... I don't wanna to disappoint u but...... What ever lets wait!!
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Very realistic , but it is better than putting hope on something that may not happened , also , they said galaxy y (or young) whatever , is nominated to get the update but not confirmed , so I agree with with you bro :thumbup:
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Its for galaxy young dude...its packed with 4.1
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Btw why is the thread tagged with [update]?
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Get excited about learning English too.
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Ignore such spelling mistakes sir.........motivate the talent of a talented and not his mistakes......
Plz read this Article http://www.androidrootguide.com/2013/09/kit-kat-4-4-new-release-android-operating-system.html
There are written something that " the android 4.4 has Linux kernel 3.8 which support to low memory device below Ram 512".
Pardon me for typo, It's not Samsung Y (GT-S5360) which will get update of KitKat, as it is very low in memory : Just 289 MB.
New Samsung Young (S6312) which is shipped with 4.1.2 stock ROM, will get update of KitKat 4.4 .
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Knew it couldn't be our Galaxy Young but the new model (S6310/S6312) that recently came out.
I guess by saying that it will consume less menory google meant that more ram will be available for other apps. And comparing our device in the latest low end devices list we can find that its not comparable. Bitter Truth.
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finger crossed guys :fingers-crossed:
Its good to be optimistic but there are limits for everything.
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Face the facts. This WON'T happend.
A good analogy is: Trying to install windows 8 on a machine running Windows 95... End rant and bury this topic.
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JasoX said:
Face the facts. This WON'T happend.
A good analogy is: Trying to install windows 8 on a machine running Windows 95... End rant and bury this topic.
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The developers booted 4.2 on htc dream , nothing is impossible , don't compare windows and android , android is open source and highly customizable , we may get the update or no , but we can compile the new CM to our phone (theoreticaly possible) but we lack drivers.
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The developers booted 4.2 on htc dream , nothing is impossible , don't compare windows and android , android is open source and highly customizable , we may get the update or no , but we can compile the new CM to our phone (theoreticaly possible) but we lack drivers.
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The lack of drivers is due to the fact of the drivers it self being closed source. Eventhough you could get your hands on the drivers and getting 4.x booted up on a Y, it still does not mean that Google will make it run on legacy devices. My analogy was flawless, it was nothing to do with open or closed source, but the fact that trying to install a operating system on a device which clearly lacks the hardware to be able run the operating system. In other words, it is not possible. Sure the CM team or another hacker team might be able to incorporate some of the 4.x functions but it won't be the full 4.x.
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Possibilities are:
Low end devices like GT-S5360 will get Android 4.4 KitKat. I heard that Google is working to Android to eliminate OS fragmentation. So if they will be able to make the newer version of Android to be compatible with devices 5 or more years older, then that will help the adoption rate of newer Android versions faster.
We all know that Samsung does not have a good reputation (but not the worst as well) when it comes to giving updates to their devices. Even flagship devices have delays getting Android version updates. To cut it short, even if KitKat will be available for GT-S5360, we have a small chance of getting it from Samsung. We need individual developers to work on it to bring it to GT-S5360. Remember, Galaxy Young is just one in a hundred of low and mid ranged devices released by Samsung. They may not bother to make Android 4.4 available for GT-S5360, but there is still hope. Galaxy Young is only 2 years old. 3 more years before this device reach it's EOL (End Of Life).
Patience is a virtue but don't keep your hopes high. You better accept the fact that this device may never ever ever ever get any android update from Samsung. If they do, then rejoice. If they don't, at least you ain't gonna cry like a baby
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Possibilities are:
Low end devices like GT-S5360 will get Android 4.4 KitKat. I heard that Google is working to Android to eliminate OS fragmentation. So if they will be able to make the newer version of Android to be compatible with devices 5 or more years older, then that will help the adoption rate of newer Android versions faster.
We all know that Samsung does not have a good reputation (but not the worst as well) when it comes to giving updates to their devices. Even flagship devices have delays getting Android version updates. To cut it short, even if KitKat will be available for GT-S5360, we have a small chance of getting it from Samsung. We need individual developers to work on it to bring it to GT-S5360. Remember, Galaxy Young is just one in a hundred of low and mid ranged devices released by Samsung. They may not bother to make Android 4.4 available for GT-S5360, but there is still hope. Galaxy Young is only 2 years old. 3 more years before this device reach it's EOL (End Of Life).
Patience is a virtue but don't keep your hopes high. You better accept the fact that this device may never ever ever ever get any android update from Samsung. If they do, then rejoice. If they don't, at least you ain't gonna cry like a baby
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Nice explanation sir! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Hi guys!!! Happy New Year first!
I found something interesting. The devs from ubuntu are developing a new OS. It uses linux kernel and drivers for the specific device.Here are the requirements. I think i will run on our devices.
Watch the video.
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Hi guys!!! Happy New Year first!
I found something interesting. The devs from ubuntu are developing a new OS. It uses linux kernel and drivers for the specific device.Here are the requirements. I think i will run on our devices.
Watch the video.
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So great! Looking for an official release
It looks like the Desire is just at the minimum requirements for this, except that the Desire's Snapdragon system-on-chip is ARM Coretex A8 not the "required" A9.
I was under the impression it needs at least two cores, no?
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I was under the impression it needs at least two cores, no?
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You miss read it. Its not the mobile os that needs dual-core its the docking thing where it runs the full desktop.
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cool i'll wait for it
Thou were struggling to get the latest version of android.
People dream too much . Wake up and smell the coffee.
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well why not we have other choices for os on our phones ? i think it could be a new era on phones os and who knows even more ...
I think it will be awesome to choose our OS on the phone. This wil be perfect on phone that has no buttons - like galaxy nexus or nexus 4. The beta will be released in 3 or 4 weeks I think. I`ll try to port it but I'll need help
Edit: Read the official page. The beta for the nexus will be ready at 13 january ))
Yes we can hope that with both Ubuntu and Firefox OS will let us control our devices. The future of smartphone OS look bright :laugh: By the way I don't think canonical is planning to port ubuntu for old or low-range phones for now. Especially since they might encounter performance issues. The community might have to work hard to port it on devices like the HTC Desire
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I think it will be awesome to choose our OS on the phone. This wil be perfect on phone that has no buttons - like galaxy nexus or nexus 4. The beta will be released in 3 or 4 weeks I think. I`ll try to port it but I'll need help
Edit: Read the official page. The beta for the nexus will be ready at 13 january ))
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Good luck I hope it does eventually get ported to a usable fashion. Thou I am being realistic.
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Sadly by the time it's available to devs few people will have the phone so doubt it'll a developers time and effort. Never know though
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Sadly by the time it's available to devs few people will have the phone so doubt it'll a developers time and effort. Never know though
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It depends lets hope that we will have a version soon enough !!
Yes, lets get this to the Desire.
Or atleast an custom Android ROM with all the features and look.
i hope Ubuntu phone OS can run in htc desire....:laugh:
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i hope Ubuntu phone OS can run in htc desire....:laugh:
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Anything news about this?
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me too !!
i hope Ubuntu OS and Firefox OS can run in HTC DESIRE .....
htc desire only single core
i think ubuntu os phone can't support for desire ....
desire just single core...:crying:
It looks to me that our processor may just fall under the requirements, also it says the device will require 4gb internal storage. That may be a problem, as long as the system files are less than 250mb it should be possible using some sort of reverse mount with sd card
interesting. But I also suppose that our three years old smartphone won't be "fast" enough for it
Hello everyone ;
i just read an article stat that old phones with weak memory 512mg didnt get any new updates but this could be changed with new android !
it says that and i copy from it : ' One important feature will be the ability of low memory models to update to newer builds of Android. Low memory handsets made by Huawei, Samsung and ZTE that have 512MB of RAM inside, are at a major disadvantage to today's mid to high-range models that are packed with 2 to 3GB of the stuff. These low memory models usually are not updated to newer builds of Android. That could change with Android 4.4. '
idk but i guess if they did it it will be such a great news for old beloved old devices like my xperia ray !!:fingers-crossed:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-features-include-support-for-wearables-and-improved-performance-for-low-memory-devices_id48896
Unfortunately, not likely that older phones will get it, New but even mid and low-end phones might get it for sure.
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stinky dentist said:
Hello everyone ;
i just read an article stat that old phones with weak memory 512mg didnt get any new updates but this could be changed with new android !
it says that and i copy from it : ' One important feature will be the ability of low memory models to update to newer builds of Android. Low memory handsets made by Huawei, Samsung and ZTE that have 512MB of RAM inside, are at a major disadvantage to today's mid to high-range models that are packed with 2 to 3GB of the stuff. These low memory models usually are not updated to newer builds of Android. That could change with Android 4.4. '
idk but i guess if they did it it will be such a great news for old beloved old devices like my xperia ray !!:fingers-crossed:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.4-features-include-support-for-wearables-and-improved-performance-for-low-memory-devices_id48896
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I think 4.4 will just run good on low-end devices and it might be easier to port to those devices. But I'd wager quite a lot that Sony isn't going to bother with our phone anymore, 18 months have passed and they have dozens of other devices to support.
No Qualcomm support - no official 4.4 for our devices, get over it. We can only hope to get KitKat beacuse of Letama or Rayman.
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No Qualcomm support - no official 4.4 for our devices, get over it. We can only hope to get KitKat beacuse of Letama or Rayman.
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Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs
No KitKat 4.4 for Galaxy Nexus.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085
I don't really think there would be anymore support or anything as such for SXS.. SONY has and completely will abandon SXS.. Already as Envious said SXZ is also old now and will soon be obsolete in another year.. Tech keeps on moving guys, everything gets old.. U just gotta live with it..
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Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs
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Wow.. That's good to hear.. I thought letama was gonna continue building 4.3.. Good to hear u r gonna takeover his project.. :good:
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No KitKat 4.4 for Galaxy Nexus.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085
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Since Galaxy Nexus even is abandoned, then Why are there rumors in the first place.. Its so confirmed that they themselves have said its OLD and crossed 18 months.. So i guess old in their words mean basic low end budget devices.. Its like in "Pink Panther 2" where the HERO does both Good Cop Bad Cop Routine all by himself.. :silly: And still we gotta accept it..!!! Don't get any hopes up YET guys..
I dont think any old device will get 4.4 unless its a part of some new licence
I guess its good for old devices to run newer android , 4.3 is extremely smooth compared to 4.2 and 4.1 (on xs)
Speaking of which
The first thing im trying to fix with letamas 4.3 build is the HDMI and the graphics crashes and errors
Just waiting for source code
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Letama doesnt have a XS anymore however ,soon enough i will be taking over letamas 4.3 project and just maybe i may be able to port 4.4 to xperia s. I assume RaymanFX will build 4.4 via CM10 it seems like he always has
also sony has compltely abandoned these old devices, most of the contracts end next year but sony dont care enough to even look in this direction.
they dont even care about the Xperia Z and more, then again cant blame them, they are almost bankrupt again :/
try to keep your hopes up , although xperia S is a orphan we have got some great devs
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Lol almost bankrupt ??
No way and totally nonsense about that, they maked alot money with tv's/phones/laptops/ps3's etc like millions in 2012/13
Read better the news ;(
About kitkat 4.4, we shall see because we must also wait a year or longer on JB !!
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Pandemic said:
@Envious_Data
Lol almost bankrupt ??
No way and totally nonsense about that, they maked alot money with tv's/phones/laptops/ps3's etc like millions in 2012/13
Read better the news ;(
About kitkat 4.4, we shall see because we must also wait a year or longer on JB !!
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realy maybe i need to research more often
Xperia s was supose to get 4.2.2 , why i dony think any old xperia is going to be updated by sony
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i want kitkat its will make my xperia s faster,smoother,effecient and best of all battery life i want it.can anybody get me a kitkat bar :laugh:
Source code released
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/android-building/JVLaFRoJxFk
Someone please tag raymanfx.. I can't do it as I am on tapatalk app.
Kitkat is the way to go.. may be the best thing that can happen to xperia s and above all it features the much hyped screen recording feature out of the box as displayed by koush for CM.
Source code released
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/android-building/JVLaFRoJxFk
Someone please tag raymanfx.. I can't do it as I am on tapatalk app.
Kitkat is the way to go.. may be the best thing that can happen to xperia s and above all it features the much hyped screen recording feature out of the box as displayed by koush for CM.
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@RaymanFX This is the source to 4.4 already.. I hope this helps.. Thanks to @fundoozzz.. :good:
Not gonna happen guys. Xperia S is pretty much EOL. I will be getting my new phone tomorrow. So I'm ready to leave this place
4.4 Will not be given by sony as the phone is now classed as "discontinued" and is a archived sony phone. I don't know if the end of support for updates has been done yet if not they can update it but very unwilling because they have lots of newer phones.
Most likely a developer will port it over
The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.
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The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.
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It definitely should as according to google it will run smooth on devices with mere 512mb of RAM.
The major challenges is hacking the code for our soc as it has been discontinued by arm too..
If Google is not upgrading the Galaxy Nexus, why are you hoping Sony will not do the same?
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We'll know more next week.
This is from Sony Xperia News Tweet:
re. #Android @kitkat, we’re excited – next week our news on: 4.3, 4.4; products & more... #SonyXperia
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The only thing that I'm concerned of is, will it run smoother than other ported JB ROMs.
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4.3 is smooth as heaven no joke
So 4.4 is going to be a load better
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As always, XDA is up to some good stuff with a new release of Android now available. Some developers are finding what appears to be updated binaries for the GPU that’s inside the Galaxy Nexus. KitKat was announced last week, and surprisingly, Google decided to drop support for the Galaxy Nexus. It’s surprising because KitKat can run on devices with 256MB of RAM, which the Galaxy Nexus has a full gigabyte of RAM available. We’ve already seen numerous custom ROMs flowing out for KitKat on the Galaxy Nexus. And it’s not just for the GSM Galaxy Nexus, but also the Verizon (Toro) and Sprint (Toroplus) versions.
It appears that Texas Instruments have updated the GPU binaries for the Galaxy Nexus. Now, Google may not have known that TI was going to update it or Google may not have told TI that they had given up on the two-year old device. But either way, developers are hard at work building an updated kernel that might help solve some of the graphical issues with KitKat on the Galaxy Nexus.
If you’re one of those many people out there still rocking the Galaxy Nexus, and not wanting to give it up just yet. It looks like you might get Christmas a bit early. As the new GPU binaries should definitely help out the Galaxy Nexus. Although, if you’ve held onto it this long, you’re probably due for an upgrade, since the device was released in November 2011. Hopefully this will help people get a long a bit more until the device finally chokes.
This is another reason why we love the developer community around Android. You won’t find a developer community like this behind the iPhone or anything iOS related. Back before I started here at AH, I had a couple of devices in which the manufacturer had given up on the device, but developers had continued to support it for years. Which was quite nice.
Is it real? It would be a big deal !
Do any ROM developers confirm it yet?
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Is it real?
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I sure hope its real!
Haven't heard much lately on this just what hashcode said and he didn't sound too promising. One ROM developer I seen tried it but was beyond his skills
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Nothing is impossible ...
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I'm still very much active on this , its true its beyond my skill but that's how I learn . I'm hands on all the way , my nexus stays with the battery cover off 50% of the time lol , so don't fret , there might be hope yet .......
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Will they solve glitches totaly?
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Will they solve glitches totaly?
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No one knows that
I would like to thank everyone that is working to make this happen!
this is outdated news
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...possibly-aid-galaxy-nexus-kitkat-development/
please read the hashcode's reply
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47160722&postcount=309
new drivers are for Jellybean and not for KitKat
Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update
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Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update
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I would prefer updated Jellybean with updated drivers and with no WiFi/GPS/connectivity issues... hope Google will release a more stable Jellybean
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Well, even if it's only for Jelly Bean, i would want that. An Update is better than no-update
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I was thinking same thing.
Even of they ARE only good for4.2/4.3 improvements, I'd love to see them incorporated
When the kitkat is compatible even on 512mb ram devices, our grand has got such a good ram and it has pretty large user's, why can't we..! This is not fair by the Samsung...! When our competitor micromax canvas 2 is getting kitkat(micromax has announced the list) why can't we.? Samsung look towards only its high end devices like s3,s4, note2 and note3.. its partial towards their high end customers...! Samsung is looking only to increase their sales not continued support for their customers, so it has launched grand lite/neo..!
So this is the petition to upgrade our firmware to 4.4 kitkat.. who are all with me.?
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When the kitkat is compatible even on 512mb ram devices, our grand has got such a good ram and it has pretty large user's, why can't we..! This is not fair by the Samsung...! When our competitor micromax canvas 2 is getting kitkat(micromax has announced the list) why can't we.? Samsung look towards only its high end devices like s3,s4, note2 and note3.. its partial towards their high end customers...! Samsung is looking only to increase their sales not continued support for their customers, so it has launched grand lite/neo..!
So this is the petition to upgrade our firmware to 4.4 kitkat.. who are all with me.?
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Haha....well LOL brother..its really decent of u who thinks that way and just for that started a new thread....but its not gonna make samsung change there mind...
1st. The samsung giving kitkat only to those four phones is not completely true...
Yes first they will release for those devices...obvious it would be really weird for all those people who purchased there s4 or note 3 ,and samsung gives kitkat not to them first but us ..
2. Its just first installment lets say...its nothing like only these devices will get kitkat...many more devices will get but in later future...they will get the priority as they are flagships...
3.. Any way its universal truth that samsung updates are always late ...google releases kitkat and many devices gets it, still it takes months for Sammy's devices to get the same (bcoz OEMs takes time)...
So just wait and wait if Samsung declares the confirmed list with names of devices which will get kitkat ,after these flagships....
Though its a good gesture u are concerned about it, but starting a new thread just for poll is not required ..
No offence buddy..i am with u...
But lets start developing by ourselves rather than waiting for these companies to do for us..
If pawitp , xenon92 and k2wl would have thought the same , and if they would have just sit on there homes and just make a thread like this one and vote, then i dont think we would have got all these kitkat roms (kudos to all )....
Hope u get what i am saying...
No offense ...
With your cause xD ..
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When Grand 2 will get Kitkat (and it will) we will only get JB 4.3... I think. Developing updates is a money loss for all companies and they prefer to release a sequel device instead.
Besides Grand's main market is for ordinary people in developing countries... And ordinary people doesn't really care about Kitkat anyway, as long as the apps they want work well on their devices. Vast majority of apps still work on JB 4.2.2. And it will be for a few years ahead. Hell, there are even some people who still uses Froyo.
The choice to not update our device makes sense (economically) for Samsung. All companies are built for profit, not for loss, and because of the nature of Samsung itself (a mainly hardware company, not software company i.e. Google) they only get the money from selling as many devices as they can.
You probably should've bought a Nexus device.
And btw, this should be in the general section.
Am totally agreeing with u.Sure u can file a complaint throug samsung official website its simple and it's all what we could do to get atleast 4.3 or a fix for performance. Till recent 4.2udate device is laggy so it's a nice idea
By the way Google havnt updated its Galaxy Nexus to KiTKaT
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By the way Google havnt updated its Galaxy Nexus to KiTKaT
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It won't get Kitkat... at least officially. Google said so.
Guyz samsung will be soon giving us de 4.4 update....
I hav read it on net....
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Guyz samsung will be soon giving us de 4.4 update....
I hav read it on net....
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We can not rely on random sites brothr...
If its not on samsung site....it's nt true ..
BTW.. Evn if 4. 4 comes...unless and untill it has really diffrnt stuffs and features.....i dont think i ll be using it..
I ll still stick to AOSP ports by our devs ..kudos
Or try for debloted rom with some extra features by balliboxer ..that guy really is a gun #respect ...
N till 4.4.2 comes on our device... Maybe a new android will be introduced by that time
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raghavsharmaxda said:
We can not rely on random sites brothr...
If its not on samsung site....it's nt true ..
BTW.. Evn if 4. 4 comes...unless and untill it has really diffrnt stuffs and features.....i dont think i ll be using it..
I ll still stick to AOSP ports by our devs ..kudos
Or try for debloted rom with some extra features by balliboxer ..that guy really is a gun #respect ...
N till 4.4.2 comes on our device... Maybe a new android will be introduced by that time
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Who cares........there is nothing fancy in kitkat
tharmor said:
Who cares........there is nothing fancy in kitkat
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Well..if officially we get kitkay.. then our current roms will be updated too(maybe)..
Drivers and all cud be used to fix several bugs and significantly performance cud b increased...
Many ppl arent able to use custom roms because they don't have dual sim..but this one will have.. Not to forget the process load will be lesser and so over all it will be good!
Sorry if i m wrong
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tharmor said:
Who cares........there is nothing fancy in kitkat
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Exactly.
AOSP and its derivations of Kitkat are just plain JB 4.3 with minor features (ART, printing, white interface, etc.). Most of the Google features are already updated via Google Play Store. So nowadays there's really no reason to rush the upgrade to Google's latest and greatest, because we already have almost all of Google's Kitkat features distributed via Play Store. These are i.e. Google Keyboard, Camera, Photos, Calendar, Hangouts, etc.
It has some upsides:
- People who are stuck in earlier Android versions can taste some of Google's latest features without upgrading the Android version.
- People who are tied to carrier restrictions can now bypass that and get the latest Google features
- These apps will be updated more frequently than the Android version.
- It will be more lawsuit-proof. All of these apps are now copyrighted by Google and closed source, meaning no other companies can copy any of the apps features without asking Google. It was different in the past when it was all open source, everybody can copy and derive (with author credits of course)
And the downsides is that this is bad for developers community because we're now more dependent to Google Apps than ever before...
vinay_kumar said:
When the kitkat is compatible even on 512mb ram devices, our grand has got such a good ram and it has pretty large user's, why can't we..! This is not fair by the Samsung...! When our competitor micromax canvas 2 is getting kitkat(micromax has announced the list) why can't we.? Samsung look towards only its high end devices like s3,s4, note2 and note3.. its partial towards their high end customers...! Samsung is looking only to increase their sales not continued support for their customers, so it has launched grand lite/neo..!
So this is the petition to upgrade our firmware to 4.4 kitkat.. who are all with me.?
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Do you know anything about marketing?
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donnie.darko said:
Do you know anything about marketing?
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Nope, why.?
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Do you know anything about marketing?
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Mahn..if u think that this all new releases of lite/grand 2 is marketing ..then i would laugh at samsung for its poor marketing ..
Stats shows that their sales last year were 18-23% less then last to last year..
S4 didnt sell that well..and making bunch of less powerful phones rather then making one powerful mobile is worst strategy ever...people who live in developing countries (like india) ended up purchasing these poor performance mobiles rather than waiting and saving for a big one (and that's why many good handsets didnt set record as they were supposed to)..giving my example :|..
I was thinking to save so that i could take a good mobile...waited, so that can take a cool sammy phone (coz they are powerful)..
I ended up taking this mobile coz it had released and was in Budget ,rather then saving and getting good one(that was a way too far road )..
So marketing word..is something turns out Samsung has forgot..
Just 1 exynos chip dual core in grand and 720p resolution for 5" screen was 100times better then what they made today... It was okay then if device was a bit costlier too..(at least ppl wudnt hav ended up taking a cell with not that grt power ).. Alot alot of thanks to developers out there who gave there sooo precious time just so that i didnt sold my grand ...all thanks to them mahn..
Yea..so u were telling something about marketing ..
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raghavsharmaxda said:
Mahn..if u think that this all new releases of lite/grand 2 is marketing ..then i would laugh at samsung for its poor marketing ..
Stats shows that their sales last year were 18-23% less then last to last year..
S4 didnt sell that well..and making bunch of less powerful phones rather then making one powerful mobile is worst strategy ever...people who live in developing countries (like india) ended up purchasing these poor performance mobiles rather than waiting and saving for a big one (and that's why many good handsets didnt set record as they were supposed to)..giving my example :|..
I was thinking to save so that i could take a good mobile...waited, so that can take a cool sammy phone (coz they are powerful)..
I ended up taking this mobile coz it had released and was in Budget ,rather then saving and getting good one(that was a way too far road )..
So marketing word..is something turns out Samsung has forgot..
Just 1 exynos chip dual core in grand and 720p resolution for 5" screen was 100times better then what they made today... It was okay then if device was a bit costlier too..(at least ppl wudnt hav ended up taking a cell with not that grt power ).. Alot alot of thanks to developers out there who gave there sooo precious time just so that i didnt sold my grand ...all thanks to them mahn..
Yea..so u were telling something about marketing ..
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+1 too...!
mounee_69 said:
+1 too...!
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Companhies are filling the market with mid-end mobiles like xperia models, motoX from motorola, and others are coming to Brazil for a fraction of a High end device and still good qualities, exactly as said before.
The only one thing bothers me on Grand Duos is lacking of memory management. Even maintaining a controlled number of applications, sometimes I have to close the active ones so the phone can become slower or unresponsive. I´m using 4.2.2 from TIM carrier, Brazil.
I greenified some applications but still a little laggy sometimes, so Kitkat seems a hope for me, but I need dual sim funcionallity, so I need to wait the update, or change for another nexus based model.
I also think our phone will not get kitkat
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Only regret i have on this device is its screwn resolution and broadcomm chipset...which are the main reasons why we dont get official custom roms/high quality game support....thats the main reason whyy...!
I ll keep thia device anyway for few months more and will take moto g or something!..
Abt the petition... Lets see what happens..
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my first phone ill always keep it...and why not if we get such awesome roms!
so do you think that samsung 8.4 tab will get android M??? or you think they will not update it anymore?
Monster212 said:
so do you think that samsung 8.4 tab will get android M??? or you think they will not update it anymore?
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Considering we're still only on 5.0.2 and 5.1.1 has been out for many months I'd feel there is little chance this year if ever. A custom ROM will be our best bet. Also be careful what you wish for as you still see many posts from people reverting to KitKat while Lollipop has been great for me.
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Let first hope that we will get 5.1.1 first then think about android M
One day, when we've moved on to other devices, Samsung may release M for the Tab S
they might just be skipping 5.1.x and going directly to M...
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they might just be skipping 5.1.x and going directly to M...
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Did Samsung say that?
i read on another web site that has a list confirmed from samsung that will get the update to M, this site posted this info yesterday... they also say that more will be added to the list, not sure if i am allowed to post links to other sites on here so i will post the site... buts its on a site with Samsung in it.. google is your friend... if i am allowed to post links i will add the link..
List of Samsung devices that will get Official Android M updates:
- Samsung Galaxy S6
- Samsung Galaxy S6 Duos
- Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
- Samsung Galaxy Note 4
- Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Duos
- Samsung Galaxy Note Edge
- Samsung Galaxy ALPHA
- Samsung Galaxy Tab A
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Did Samsung say that?
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no, pure speculation
but I just wonder the point of devoting energy into 5.1 when M is on the horizon.
who knows how it works though.
I dont think tab s can run android m properly
If we wont get the android M update from samsung maybe we will get a a port like cm13 who knows
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I dont think tab s can run android m properly
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M is supposed to be optimized and with several improvements in comparison to LP.
So if it can run LP than it will fly with M.
It's Samsung obligation to provide Android M, because of the 2 year firmware support. No excuses are accepted!
Being fed up with all my Samsung devices firmware sluggish and dated updates, I'm considering in the future moving to Nexus or Apple.
Samsung, please don't ask premium prices, and then provide the cheapest support.
I agree @pacc I think I will move on to one plus LG and nexus my next device wont be samsung
I read the other day that galaxy tab 4 is receiving android 5.1.1 around now , so I'm hoping the tab S will get it too...anything else doesn't make sense; both devices released around the same time, and tab S is the premium one...
As for M, that just wild speculation. My money is on "no, we won't get that"
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IMHO, and I'm no expert just an end user, Android and Apple bite. Not ONE Android based device I have is capable of browsing the internet with the same functionality as Chrome, Firefox or IE. Facebook apps are lame at best and I prefer the interface we are given with a browser over any of the apps. I'm not going to buy any future Android based devices. I totally refuse to purchase anything from Apple after being stung buying an iPOD years ago.
So IF I ever buy another tablet, and that's pretty doubtful, it will be Windows based, cell phone too.
Samsung, Asus, Rockchip devices using Android....no more of my money....
Samsung suckered me in with a great price for awesome hardware but I am more educated now I would never buy a Samsung these days. I originally installed a custom ROM because I got tired of all the lag and bugs of Tab S stock kitkat. Expensive lesson as now my knox is tripped.. Samsung probably isn't excited to release software because everyone is wiping to get rid of lag then never reporting into their service. I lasted two months.. I would type a sentence then wait as it slowly came out, it was epic bad lag.
I lasted 2 days and tjen wiped and flashed a custom rom lol I guess thats the reason why they dont update
fred_be9300 said:
I read the other day that galaxy tab 4 is receiving android 5.1.1 around now , so I'm hoping the tab S will get it too...anything else doesn't make sense; both devices released around the same time, and tab S is the premium one...
As for M, that just wild speculation. My money is on "no, we won't get that"
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They may be using Tab 4 as a test before putting their eggs in the basket with the Tab S.
I must have lower expectations of my tab than you guy`s, I am still on kitkat and apart from rooting to get full microsd access i have had no problems at all, I don't care about updates they seem to cause more problems than they are worth.
John.
Great devices totally ruined by that crappy samsung software