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wat da fak sammy?
that phone have similar hardware configuration like our phone, just 800Mhz dual core cpu and 768Mb ram, I guess its about 500Mb because 268Mb
deserved for system, and mali-400MP GPU. Just a slight improvisation from our i8150.
damn you sammy
wat da fak sammy?
that phone have similar hardware configuration like our phone, just 800Mhz dual core cpu and 768Mb ram, I guess its about 500Mb because 268Mb
deserved for system, and mali-400MP GPU. Just a slight improvisation from our i8150.
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what da hell samsung? uour phone spec isn't low enough for ICS, your bull**** touchwiz blows everything down. crappy marketing strategies
Even Samsung Galaxy S Duos http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_duos_s7562-4883.php comes with ICS
Speechless as it is much weaker than our SGW, in term of CPU & GPU, the only thing it wins is the amount of RAM
There are a lot of ICS phones with 512MB RAM from HTC & Sony, if Samsung is willing to give us support, we would get ICS without problem for sure since Samsung got a big team to work it out, really quite a bad support from Samsung for our phone, luckily we got Arco and some developers who work hard to bring ICS to us really thankful to them!
MyDeSTiNaTe said:
Even Samsung Galaxy S Duos http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_duos_s7562-4883.php comes with ICS
Speechless as it is much weaker than our SGW, in term of CPU & GPU, the only thing it wins is the amount of RAM
There are a lot of ICS phones with 512MB RAM from HTC & Sony, if Samsung is willing to give us support, we would get ICS without problem for sure since Samsung got a big team to work it out, really quite a bad support from Samsung for our phone, luckily we got Arco and some developers who work hard to bring ICS to us really thankful to them!
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yes this is right. support al the dev!!
I always look at the bright side of this.
If sammy release update ICS or JB, then we will loose the excitement of custom ROM.
What I mean is like the waiting time of new custom ROM version, the moment when devs release new update and we download it and flash it to our beloved SGW. It's so exciting!!!
Here, we have many custom ROMs and every new release is getting better and better. To be honest, I might prefer custom ROM. Because even if sammy release update, I'm sure it will full with sammy's bloatware.
One day, I met other SGW user. He is just a regular user and don't know anything about flashing. He looked at my phone and say: whoaa..!!! how did you do that?? Can you do it to my phone??
My point is: I DON'T CARE if sammy release update or not. As long as there are custom ROMs, that's more than enough for me
maybe we are not worried about this because there are custom rom. but I feel sorry for those who use stock rom and hope about rom upgrade.
hotheabilly said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...786.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
wat da fak sammy?
that phone have similar hardware configuration like our phone, just 800Mhz dual core cpu and 768Mb ram, I guess its about 500Mb because 268Mb
deserved for system, and mali-400MP GPU. Just a slight improvisation from our i8150.
damn you sammy
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Seconded!!!!
And the salt into the wound is that the Galaxy Ace 2 is £70 cheaper on O2 Uk pay as you go than my Galaxy W was 10 months ago
ianfebriyanto said:
maybe we are not worried about this because there are custom rom. .
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Yes but surely ROMs like Cyanogen 9 would be much further along and have taken less time to develop and debug if an official Sammy ICS ROM for Galaxy W had been available as a starting point for modding/improving.
opexblue said:
I always look at the bright side of this.
If sammy release update ICS or JB, then we will loose the excitement of custom ROM.
What I mean is like the waiting time of new custom ROM version, the moment when devs release new update and we download it and flash it to our beloved SGW. It's so exciting!!!
Here, we have many custom ROMs and every new release is getting better and better. To be honest, I might prefer custom ROM. Because even if sammy release update, I'm sure it will full with sammy's bloatware.
One day, I met other SGW user. He is just a regular user and don't know anything about flashing. He looked at my phone and say: whoaa..!!! how did you do that?? Can you do it to my phone??
My point is: I DON'T CARE if sammy release update or not. As long as there are custom ROMs, that's more than enough for me
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you're not completely right, for example if we had official ics we would not reverse engineer camera and some other hw, so creating 4.x customs would be easier, but we had just to rely on our devs and huawei u8860 software
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opexblue said:
I always look at the bright side of this.
If sammy release update ICS or JB, then we will loose the excitement of custom ROM.
What I mean is like the waiting time of new custom ROM version, the moment when devs release new update and we download it and flash it to our beloved SGW. It's so exciting!!!
Here, we have many custom ROMs and every new release is getting better and better. To be honest, I might prefer custom ROM. Because even if sammy release update, I'm sure it will full with sammy's bloatware.
One day, I met other SGW user. He is just a regular user and don't know anything about flashing. He looked at my phone and say: whoaa..!!! how did you do that?? Can you do it to my phone??
My point is: I DON'T CARE if sammy release update or not. As long as there are custom ROMs, that's more than enough for me
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Developers would be able to customized ICS if a stock ICS is already available than creating from scratch. ICS is different from GB. Thats why devs are having difficulties in fixing stuffs like camera for phones that do not have ICS. Devs would love to use working libs for ICS phone-related components. Then porting JB would be much faster too since little is different from ICS.
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hotheabilly said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...786.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
wat da fak sammy?
that phone have similar hardware configuration like our phone, just 800Mhz dual core cpu and 768Mb ram, I guess its about 500Mb because 268Mb
deserved for system, and mali-400MP GPU. Just a slight improvisation from our i8150.
damn you sammy
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trueeeeeeeeeeeee
dimaka1256 said:
you're not completely right, for example if we had official ics we would not reverse engineer camera and some other hw, so creating 4.x customs would be easier, but we had just to rely on our devs and huawei u8860 software
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Developers would be able to customized ICS if a stock ICS is already available than creating from scratch. ICS is different from GB. Thats why devs are having difficulties in fixing stuffs like camera for phones that do not have ICS. Devs would love to use working libs for ICS phone-related components. Then porting JB would be much faster too since little is different from ICS.
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I realize that. But I also know that pissing off to sammy and curse them won't change anything.
What I mean is instead of pissing off to sammy, we should be grateful because we have devs that work very hard porting ICS for our phone.
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Jelly Bean comes to support phone with NFC device. I think that the cause of the making jelly Bean to Ace 2. Don't worry guys... We have development Forum, we have developers and we have Arco. Not to mention, but ace 2 has no their own thread. You check on search box, no ace 2 comes out. Lol. Probably that's why Sammy feel pity for them and make them a jelly Bean. LMFAO.
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azhiekurosaki said:
Jelly Bean comes to support phone with NFC device. I think that the cause of the making jelly Bean to Ace 2. Don't worry guys... We have development Forum, we have developers and we have Arco. Not to mention, but ace 2 has no their own thread. You check on search box, no ace 2 comes out. Lol. Probably that's why Sammy feel pity for them and make them a jelly Bean. LMFAO.
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+2 saki!!!
u hv d nutz..
azhiekurosaki said:
Jelly Bean comes to support phone with NFC device. I think that the cause of the making jelly Bean to Ace 2. Don't worry guys... We have development Forum, we have developers and we have Arco. Not to mention, but ace 2 has no their own thread. You check on search box, no ace 2 comes out. Lol. Probably that's why Sammy feel pity for them and make them a jelly Bean. LMFAO.
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Are u trying to bullying ace 2 ? LOL
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hotheabilly said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...786.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
wat da fak sammy?
that phone have similar hardware configuration like our phone, just 800Mhz dual core cpu and 768Mb ram, I guess its about 500Mb because 268Mb
deserved for system, and mali-400MP GPU. Just a slight improvisation from our i8150.
damn you sammy
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I really wish this was true, and I wish Sammy would bring this update out NOW!
Not because I have one of these phones, but because that firmware could be the base for the developers working on our Wonder. That means it's gonna be easier to port, and we'll have a stable CM10 in no time! :highfive:
why developers developing apps & mods for ics
gingerbread is so stable - so fast - have a lot of free RAM - have lot of İnternal then İCS ! :good:
but ics is seriously superBAD and superslow!
Why developers using İCS.. I may not Understand !
Why not port xperia™ T applications for gingerbread..(an example)
I Want To Understand this Game :laugh:
mesadbal said:
why developers developing apps & mods for ics
gingerbread is so stable - so fast - have a lot of free RAM - have lot of İnternal then İCS ! :good:
but ics is seriously superBAD and superslow!
Why developers using İCS.. I may not Understand !
Why not port xperia™ T applications for gingerbread..(an example)
I Want To Understand this Game :laugh:
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Thats because the people like to hav the latest stuffs on their phones. Even if it means sacrificing some performance for it
absurd
msc3169 said:
Thats because the people like to hav the latest stuffs on their phones. Even if it means sacrificing some performance for it
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Oh mann this is so absurd
There is must be another cause
mesadbal said:
why developers developing apps & mods for ics
gingerbread is so stable - so fast - have a lot of free RAM - have lot of İnternal then İCS ! :good:
but ics is seriously superBAD and superslow!
Why developers using İCS.. I may not Understand !
Why not port xperia™ T applications for gingerbread..(an example)
I Want To Understand this Game :laugh:
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lol...
lots of ppl like ICS because of its UI mods and many more..
ICS is almost fast as a GB now..
btw T apps are based on ICS api levels....porting it to GB no.
mesadbal said:
why developers developing apps & mods for ics
gingerbread is so stable - so fast - have a lot of free RAM - have lot of İnternal then İCS ! :good:
but ics is seriously superBAD and superslow!
Why developers using İCS.. I may not Understand !
Why not port xperia™ T applications for gingerbread..(an example)
I Want To Understand this Game :laugh:
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Some things like apps work best with ics than gingerbread. There are plenty of changes from gb to honeycomb to ics.
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sandy7 said:
lol...
lots of ppl like ICS because of its UI mods and many more..
ICS is almost fast as a GB now..
btw T apps are based on ICS api levels....porting it to GB no.
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Why not that UI mods and many more developing for gb ?
ICS is almost fast as a GB now.. Haa?? a joke ? İf you are serious about this, tell me how ?
and i thing, İf developers want, they may port them or creating....
Project Young said:
Some things like apps work best with ics than gingerbread. There are plenty of changes from gb to honeycomb to ics.
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ohh man They are a little problems
mesadbal said:
Why not that UI mods and many more developing for gb ?
ICS is almost fast as a GB now.. Haa?? a joke ? İf you are serious about this, tell me how ?
and i thing, İf developers want, they may port them or creating....
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i dont want to argue about this..and one more thing no one can force developers to this or that..
thread reported..
sandy7 said:
i dont want to argue about this..and one more thing no one can force developers to this or that..
thread reported..
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i dont force nobody.
ı said only if they want , they may do. So it seems like a sugesstion
ıf there is a must argue a thread, that thread is this thread !
another?
Another Answer ?
mesadbal said:
but ics is seriously superBAD and superslow!
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Not imo, sure it needs to be tweaked a little but no matter how fast GB is it's got an ugly U.I and I wouldn't dream of going back to it.
Just googled some stock gb benchmarks and average score was 4600/5000 on stock ics I've got about 5200 on CM10 JB 6200 and even more on "clean" just flashed ROM so stop talking bull**** and go play with yourself because nobody likes you in this thread.
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Forget Benchmarks. Be Honest Mann
We need more free ram, like as 230 200
we dont need high benchmark.We need stable - fast - lighting - Power !
If you want free ram then remove bloatware, i had 250 MB on tweaked, de-bloated ICS.
And learn about Android/Linux ram management. Used ram doesn't mean wasted ram, if they stay in ram they will start faster.
mesadbal said:
Forget Benchmarks. Be Honest Mann
We need more free ram, like as 230 200
we dont need high benchmark.We need stable - fast - lighting - Power !
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Are you high? Because you sound so. Right now i have 180mb of free ram on cm10 super smooth ui and nice performance in games. I would never go back to gb because its ancient and I think it kills android as an platform. Why? Because majority of current android devices runs on gb so developers cant fully use power of newer API's and they must keep backwards compatibility which I think is always some additional work and unnecessary code.
I think exactly the same. Gb is better than ICS in all ways.
Appearance? Yes, we have great themers, we could make the interface we wanted, with no doubt.
That apps run better in ICS than in GB? That is not true. Due to RAM consumption and other aspects, apps work really better in android 2.3 than in 4.x+ (for our phone).
We moved to ICS because its build number is 4.0, not because anything is better. The true reality is that ICS is a less stable than GB...
There are new API features and some apps will never work in GB.
ics looks better than gb, and I don't play games to notice much difference in performance
R: [Q] Why Developers Using İ.C.S !?
Ics have better battery backup:this is the most inportant thing in a phone.....
Inviato da me!
arcatarc said:
Ics have better battery backup:this is the most inportant thing in a phone.....
Inviato da me!
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Not in my opinion. With every gb battery would last at least 20h with moderate use. That doesnt happen in ICS
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In all honesty, I used to think exactly the same as you.
But, as stated earlier, ICS IS nearly as fast as GB now.
I used GB exclusively and occasionally used an ICS ROM just to see what they were like, I always went back.
But recently there has been some excellent work and I would never go back to GB now.
In the end its just personal preference, if you like GB - use a GB rom!!! There are plenty of good ones!
hi all developers
i have a request from developers
can you guys make LiquidSmooth rom for xperia play?
i have very limited bandwidth so i cant compile it my self
source of that rom : https://github.com/LiquidSmooth
Well that's 4.2.2 so it,d probably be better to wait for a stable 4.2.2 for our play and a stable kernel but it would be awesome to see that for out play
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But it was 4.1.2
Oh sorry I saw a different version that was 4.2.2
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Any thing higher than gingerbread requires the device to have a quad core. Single core wont cut it will be sluggishly slow rom.
chery2k said:
Any thing higher than gingerbread requires the device to have a quad core. Single core wont cut it will be sluggishly slow rom.
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Haha, yeah, I tried to run ICS a few times, and the result wasn't great. There were a couple that were put out that have great performance in the OS, but then all the apps and games are sluggish and laggy.
I've been wondering. I've tested at least 30 xperia roms. From GB to ICS to Jellybean. And while the developers on this site have done a excellent, the majority of the custom roms, in my experience start to lag after a few weeks. Yes I know apps like Facebook will cause that but somehow I've only experienced none/little lag with the stock rom. So I can't help but wonder, in the long run are the Stock Roms provided by Sony the best? When it comes to the stability factor.
Yes ofcourse, thats how sony made it and they know best for our device.
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Kevinkdc said:
I've been wondering. I've tested at least 30 xperia roms. From GB to ICS to Jellybean. And while the developers on this site have done a excellent, the majority of the custom roms, in my experience start to lag after a few weeks. Yes I know apps like Facebook will cause that but somehow I've only experienced none/little lag with the stock rom. So I can't help but wonder, in the long run are the Stock Roms provided by Sony the best? When it comes to the stability factor.
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try this..JB ROM even not yet tested.. no LAG and all the latest options.. way better than a GB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357756
and yes.. SONY made the software.. sony made the hardware.. they made it.. its their brain child.. they know best.. but Devs also have an almost identical twin Performance Roms.. lolz
saqibkhan said:
try this..JB ROM even not yet tested.. no LAG and all the latest options.. way better than a GB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357756
and yes.. SONY made the software.. sony made the hardware.. they made it.. its their brain child.. they know best.. but Devs also have an almost identical twin Performance Roms.. lolz
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Sorry to say man but none of JB ROMs can be stable. Even yours. You can only achieve smooth UI and partly smooth gaming (not in heavy games of course) but performance will never be same as GB. And the big pain in the ass is random rebooting when big workload. You're right that JB have better options but that's all.
""For what you have big shiny car when you have only small rusted engine""
Jecmenn said:
Sorry to say man but none of JB ROMs can be stable. Even yours. You can only achieve smooth UI and partly smooth gaming (not in heavy games of course) but performance will never be same as GB. And the big pain in the ass is random rebooting when big workload. You're right that JB have better options but that's all.
""For what you have big shiny car when you have only small rusted engine""
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I agree. A Question can kernels mess up the stability of a stock rom? Cause I've flashed a stock rom on a Lupus kernel mainly for overclocking and I think the stock kernel works better...
Is there a stock kernel available but only with overclocking added on it?
Kevinkdc said:
I agree. A Question can kernels mess up the stability of a stock rom? Cause I've flashed a stock rom on a Lupus kernel mainly for overclocking and I think the stock kernel works better...
Is there a stock kernel available but only with overclocking added on it?
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I dunno but LUPUS has no problems with stability. In what aspect stock kernel is better?
You can try DoomKernel. It's probably closer to stock than LUPUS and has overclocking ability of course.
They say that 4.4 will be much more lite to be able to run on low end 512 devices, any devs having some cravings?
I'm still running flinnycm101_vision_22 (Android 4.2.2), and I'm looking forward to 4.4 as wel as you, especially because since 4.3 should include SELinux by default and because it uses less resources (which could make stuff easier for Devs).
4.3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2402643
I'll be visiting http://andromadus.flinny.org/ regularly, as wel as this forum.
I'm running the CM10.1 rom as well, and loving it. I think that KitKat will be ported over, or so I hope. I do have some of the features from it, such as the launcher and the new hangouts, running on it (You can search for a Nexus 5 rom rip on DroidLife to find them since I can't post links yet.) We will see -crosses fingers-
I say yes - if similar devices like Desire HD, Desire S get working kernel.
coolos said:
I say yes - if similar devices like Desire HD, Desire S get working kernel.
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I do hope they release kitkat 4.4 for us but I hope the gpu performance will be better than in jb in which beta drivers were used. This my only concern, to be able to play games as good as in gingerbread
For me unfortunately not !
Because of the lack of Dev...
Soon, 4.3 (CM10.2) will come and I think, it will be the last one..
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For me unfortunately not !
Because of the lack of Dev...
Soon, 4.3 (CM10.2) will come and I think, it will be the last one..
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Which is exactly why I'm slowly researching into porting roms.