Is The Stock Rom The Most Stable Rom? - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been wondering. I've tested at least 30 xperia roms. From GB to ICS to Jellybean. And while the developers on this site have done a excellent, the majority of the custom roms, in my experience start to lag after a few weeks. Yes I know apps like Facebook will cause that but somehow I've only experienced none/little lag with the stock rom. So I can't help but wonder, in the long run are the Stock Roms provided by Sony the best? When it comes to the stability factor.

Yes ofcourse, thats how sony made it and they know best for our device.
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Kevinkdc said:
I've been wondering. I've tested at least 30 xperia roms. From GB to ICS to Jellybean. And while the developers on this site have done a excellent, the majority of the custom roms, in my experience start to lag after a few weeks. Yes I know apps like Facebook will cause that but somehow I've only experienced none/little lag with the stock rom. So I can't help but wonder, in the long run are the Stock Roms provided by Sony the best? When it comes to the stability factor.
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try this..JB ROM even not yet tested.. no LAG and all the latest options.. way better than a GB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357756
and yes.. SONY made the software.. sony made the hardware.. they made it.. its their brain child.. they know best.. but Devs also have an almost identical twin Performance Roms.. lolz

saqibkhan said:
try this..JB ROM even not yet tested.. no LAG and all the latest options.. way better than a GB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357756
and yes.. SONY made the software.. sony made the hardware.. they made it.. its their brain child.. they know best.. but Devs also have an almost identical twin Performance Roms.. lolz
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Sorry to say man but none of JB ROMs can be stable. Even yours. You can only achieve smooth UI and partly smooth gaming (not in heavy games of course) but performance will never be same as GB. And the big pain in the ass is random rebooting when big workload. You're right that JB have better options but that's all.
""For what you have big shiny car when you have only small rusted engine""

Jecmenn said:
Sorry to say man but none of JB ROMs can be stable. Even yours. You can only achieve smooth UI and partly smooth gaming (not in heavy games of course) but performance will never be same as GB. And the big pain in the ass is random rebooting when big workload. You're right that JB have better options but that's all.
""For what you have big shiny car when you have only small rusted engine""
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I agree. A Question can kernels mess up the stability of a stock rom? Cause I've flashed a stock rom on a Lupus kernel mainly for overclocking and I think the stock kernel works better...
Is there a stock kernel available but only with overclocking added on it?

Kevinkdc said:
I agree. A Question can kernels mess up the stability of a stock rom? Cause I've flashed a stock rom on a Lupus kernel mainly for overclocking and I think the stock kernel works better...
Is there a stock kernel available but only with overclocking added on it?
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I dunno but LUPUS has no problems with stability. In what aspect stock kernel is better?
You can try DoomKernel. It's probably closer to stock than LUPUS and has overclocking ability of course.

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[Q] rom for Pure gaming device.

god day all you happy xperia play owner.
i will soon getting a new phone and i wont have any need for the xperia play as a actual phone. so this will be only a gaming device.
what im looking for is the perfect kernel and rom to give me as much quality gaming as possible.
currently on ICS++ and a ICS beta kernel from doom and am realy happy with it. only downside is emulators not working to a 100% (SNesoid. gameoid, n64oid and nesoid.) the issue is sound on = lagg and n64oid lags / reboots phone.
so what im looking for is a ICS rom (for the touch pads working) that gan give a good gaming experience.
I decided to go back to a stock 2.3.4 on my r800x. All custom roms and any that are ICS gave me lag in games, and low fps for some reason.
JokaWild
kingston951 said:
JokaWild
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Jokawild isn't ICS.
I think that if you want everything to work like it should, you should go back to stock.
ICS seems to be more demanding overall over Gingerbread from what ive seen.
Xperia play is pretty dated Hardware wise so a really trimmed down version of Gingerbread might be the best option for gaming
Ive seen a few threads point to use either DiXperia, Jokawild, or TruAncestor
I'm using the Xperia S Style ROM and man games run faster than they did before. V6 Supercharged of course.
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I'm using the Xperia S Style ROM and man games run faster than they did before. V6 Supercharged of course.
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I can confirm this!
I just swithed to DiXperia (on of the many Xperia S roms) and i have seen a huge boost in performance with a full 200MB of Ram free while running.
The nice thing about DiXperia so far is that its completely barebones and you add what you want to it.
Definetely get on the Xperia S Roms
Agreed with above, im actually switching my phone over to an xperia S rom.
JokaWild is the best custom ROM that I know.. definetly great!
touch?
i can live with going back to GB since SE are not releasing official ICS. but is there anyway to have GB with touch pad support on emulators?
DarkForest Roms is a not bad options
jensenjr said:
i can live with going back to GB since SE are not releasing official ICS. but is there anyway to have GB with touch pad support on emulators?
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I second this.

[Q] Switching to ICS

Hi, I have been reading the Xperia Arc Android Development fourms for the past few hours trying to decide which Custom Rom / Firmware to go with. I'm simply looking for a method to update my Arc towards a light/speedy phone with ICS.
I have had a few names shout out at me but currently its
Acronium 4.0 -> Trinity Kernal v1.6 or a recommended one he suggests.
I've seen that Trinity is created by the same author as MooDeD ICS.
Pretty much what I'm trying to say is its pretty hard to differentiate which custom rom would be better than the other ...
If I could be directed in the right direction, I would very much appreciate it.
-Sincerely
Steven
Hey, the combination you already wrote is the fasted ICS combination at the moment. Flash Arconium 4.0, Trinity Kernel v1.6 and the new Xperia S apps. You wont really find a faster combination than this right now.
As I know, Trinity kernel has incompatibility to some apps. I use ArcKnight 3.3 which is very good in battery life.
for the ROM, arconium 4 still the best for now.
Regreted changing to ICS
I regreted changing to ICS
Almost all custom ICS ROMs out there don't perform as promised and they are somewhat laggy
I've double-wiped before installing the ROMs so I believe it's not my problem
And GB can give me the smoothness and responsiveness that no other ICS ROMs can
azuremaroon said:
I regreted changing to ICS
Almost all custom ICS ROMs out there don't perform as promised and they are somewhat laggy
I've double-wiped before installing the ROMs so I believe it's not my problem
And GB can give me the smoothness and responsiveness that no other ICS ROMs can
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Well try only 4.0.4 based ROM, for speed and responsiveness, I can recommend CM9, AOKP, and JJ Hybrid. Many others claimed Acronium is the fastest, but I've not try it.
My 2 cents
anteloop said:
Well try only 4.0.4 based ROM, for speed and responsiveness, I can recommend CM9, AOKP, and JJ Hybrid. Many others claimed Acronium is the fastest, but I've not try it.
My 2 cents
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Arconium icS v4.
fAST LIKE hELL.
If u really care about your battery life, U should choose arconium...
Arconium with stock kernal has the best battery life....
I mean the best batery life...!!!!!!!
its pretty smooth aswell...
Thanks for the reply guys, it was very helpful.

Best rom for now?

Hi i want to know what is the best rom for now? Because i want to change my rom i cant decide which one is good.
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There's not a lot of active rom right now. So kinda hard to giv u some suggestion.
Kindly Hit Thanks Button if i've help u in anyway.
I've used a LOT of the XP roms and first let me say this: there is no truly "best" rom, it all boils down largely to a matter of preference.
I'm currently running TrueAncestor 1.6 and I really like it, but I do miss certain things about ICS. The thing with ICS that's worth understanding is there is no truly stable or complete ICS rom for the Xperia Play. Every ICS rom has bugs or missing features. Some are worse than others. MANY ICS roms drop support for the touchpads in major games (EA Games, Gameloft Games, Rockstar Games) due to a colossal screwup on Sony's part. You can sort of regain the touchpad functionality using things like USB BT Joystick 6 or GameKeyboard, but those are hacks and they eat system resources.
Speaking of resources, ICS roms are also much more system intensive. Your phone will run slower, games will run less well, and your overall performance will be less snappy than GB roms. It's not *terrible* for sure, but Overclock is practically necessary for ICS roms to help make up for that performance loss. The XP's hardware is dated (it was dated when it launched, technically) and it's starting to show. The paltry amount of RAM and single core processor really hurt it's ability to run ICS and still kick ass at games.
Overall though, as far as ICS roms go I'd recommend AOKP, though the dev has gone dark and not updated it in a while. It was pretty good and had a lot of nice features. I hear CM9 is also nice, and it continues to get active support and development, and will eventually be superceded by CM10. Even then though, I still ran into moderate bugs on both of them - AOKP had a persistent problem where the WIFI would stop working due to a bug in the Settings dialog, so turning on/off your Wifi could cause it to stop working altogether, and the only fix was a reflash. It was a major pain in the ass. Other ICS roms will just randomly crash or reboot, or programs won't work or will crash that should otherwise work in ICS. Overall, be prepared for instability and don't expect 100% from your phone with virtually any ICS rom installed. Blame Sony for only releasing a beta of ICS and then dropping support.
There are other good ICS roms, such as ICS++, Ice Cream Sony, and KA, but some or all of those might have lost dev support (it's been a while since I checked) and none of them really did much in terms of feature changes/support, so they've stagnated compared to more active roms.
Honestly, I realize now that there wasn't a ton in ICS that I needed, and having switched back to GB last week I'm very happy I did - performance is better, battery life is tolerable (slightly worse than AOKP was), and games run great, plus I have full touchpad support again. It looked nice, but it didn't really add anything, and the bugs and missing features finally pushed me away from it after almost a year of running it (I've been running ICS since the first ICS ports hit the XP).
As for GB roms - TrueAncestor is good. I was running JokaWild for a bit, and it was ok, but it didn't blow me away, TA's theme is more preferrable to me. I'm running DoomKernel v14 which seems ok - it's also a bit dated though and Doom could probably do some updates to improve it a bit more if he had the time, but I'm sure he's quite busy.
I hope this helps - and good luck.
Also, if you aren't Fastboot enabled, get that done - it's worth the money and you'll need it in the hunt for the best rom, otherwise your selection will be very limited.
I have been using ICS roms and they are my favourite, there is a developer called secho I use many of his ports along with the kernel he recommends my favourite so far
True ancestor with my bloatware remover is my choice
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Also its not Sony's fault about the touchpads its ea gameloft etc
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Thanx guys.. I think i will switxh to gb instead of ics
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illuminerdi said:
I've used a LOT of the XP roms and first let me say this: there is no truly "best" rom, it all boils down largely to a matter of preference.
I'm currently running TrueAncestor 1.6 and I really like it, but I do miss certain things about ICS. The thing with ICS that's worth understanding is there is no truly stable or complete ICS rom for the Xperia Play. Every ICS rom has bugs or missing features. Some are worse than others. MANY ICS roms drop support for the touchpads in major games (EA Games, Gameloft Games, Rockstar Games) due to a colossal screwup on Sony's part. You can sort of regain the touchpad functionality using things like USB BT Joystick 6 or GameKeyboard, but those are hacks and they eat system resources.
Speaking of resources, ICS roms are also much more system intensive. Your phone will run slower, games will run less well, and your overall performance will be less snappy than GB roms. It's not *terrible* for sure, but Overclock is practically necessary for ICS roms to help make up for that performance loss. The XP's hardware is dated (it was dated when it launched, technically) and it's starting to show. The paltry amount of RAM and single core processor really hurt it's ability to run ICS and still kick ass at games.
Overall though, as far as ICS roms go I'd recommend AOKP, though the dev has gone dark and not updated it in a while. It was pretty good and had a lot of nice features. I hear CM9 is also nice, and it continues to get active support and development, and will eventually be superceded by CM10. Even then though, I still ran into moderate bugs on both of them - AOKP had a persistent problem where the WIFI would stop working due to a bug in the Settings dialog, so turning on/off your Wifi could cause it to stop working altogether, and the only fix was a reflash. It was a major pain in the ass. Other ICS roms will just randomly crash or reboot, or programs won't work or will crash that should otherwise work in ICS. Overall, be prepared for instability and don't expect 100% from your phone with virtually any ICS rom installed. Blame Sony for only releasing a beta of ICS and then dropping support.
There are other good ICS roms, such as ICS++, Ice Cream Sony, and KA, but some or all of those might have lost dev support (it's been a while since I checked) and none of them really did much in terms of feature changes/support, so they've stagnated compared to more active roms.
Honestly, I realize now that there wasn't a ton in ICS that I needed, and having switched back to GB last week I'm very happy I did - performance is better, battery life is tolerable (slightly worse than AOKP was), and games run great, plus I have full touchpad support again. It looked nice, but it didn't really add anything, and the bugs and missing features finally pushed me away from it after almost a year of running it (I've been running ICS since the first ICS ports hit the XP).
As for GB roms - TrueAncestor is good. I was running JokaWild for a bit, and it was ok, but it didn't blow me away, TA's theme is more preferrable to me. I'm running DoomKernel v14 which seems ok - it's also a bit dated though and Doom could probably do some updates to improve it a bit more if he had the time, but I'm sure he's quite busy.
I hope this helps - and good luck.
Also, if you aren't Fastboot enabled, get that done - it's worth the money and you'll need it in the hunt for the best rom, otherwise your selection will be very limited.
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Hi thanks for the info and suggestion but what is fastboot enabled? What it can do? Sorry for newbie question im only new at cfw world..
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[ROM] DiXperia 2 'Everlasting' | Performance. Stability. Experience. | 13.08.2012
Xperia NXT 1.2
ICS sucks btw. This custom ROM is smooth and touchpads arent buggy as hell as on ICS..
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Better kernels for Galaxy W

Hi,
just sharing a thought. In our galaxyW we experience reboot issues while playing heavy games like "waking mars" in stockROM, while we do not experience this random reboots in CM9/CM10.. but still if you check, the default memory consumption is somewhat same.. somewhere around 210-240MB in both StockROM and CM9 based ROM (remixICS). Why are we not experiencing reboots while playing the same heavy games in ICS? ICS is heavier than GB, still we do not get random reboots.
So, i think this reboot issues has something to do with the kernel. We still don't have a decent kernel for GB based ROM's/Stock Roms. Now, you may ask why sticking with stockROMs while we can use ICS. The reason is camera quality. I find camera in GB much better than CM9. Is there any good developer who can give us a decent modded GB kernel for our beloved Galaxy W?
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Try using Cyanogenmod 9 the latest build. Thats what I'm using and if anything the cameras bettter. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576874
Hope this helps
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until now i can't feel the difference between using kernel or not
coolbuy said:
Hi,
just sharing a thought. In our galaxyW we experience reboot issues while playing heavy games like "waking mars" in stockROM, while we do not experience this random reboots in CM9/CM10.. but still if you check, the default memory consumption is somewhat same.. somewhere around 210-240MB in both StockROM and CM9 based ROM (remixICS). Why are we not experiencing reboots while playing the same heavy games in ICS? ICS is heavier than GB, still we do not get random reboots.
So, i think this reboot issues has something to do with the kernel. We still don't have a decent kernel for GB based ROM's/Stock Roms. Now, you may ask why sticking with stockROMs while we can use ICS. The reason is camera quality. I find camera in GB much better than CM9. Is there any good developer who can give us a decent modded GB kernel for our beloved Galaxy W?
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ICS in fact is slightly heavier than GB. But more stable too, in fact, our device is more perfectly fit for ICS than GB in some ways.
ICS's stability itself is much more worth than GB. And most games are now optimized for ICS not GB or JB(yet).
As for kernels, different kernels allow different hardware acceleration and processes, such as our RAM and how our CPU works. Custom Kernels have better governors(as suggested by most) compared to the original. These kernels allow better gamings, and different resource allocation for our device to better fit needs.
I hope my explanation helped a little, do press thanks if it does.

[Solved] Xperia S: need some advice

I'm not sure if this is something that happens to a lot of you Nozomi users, but I can always ask for advice.
I skip from custom ROM from time to time just to know what my options are, either experimental or close-to-stock. And quite frankly it is bugging me, that my ROMs always feel sluggish, even when others say it should be quick or smooth.
I just want to have the smoothest, most stable, least sluggish ROM out there (I tend to demand a lot), and it should stay just that. Not that it's blazing fast to begin with, and decreases in speed in a matter of days.
Also, cleanest way to install said ROM? I want to rule out all possible factors.
I hope you can help me along with this,
rc_enzo
Almost all stock roms will eventualy slow down
All them error codes just gather up
Clearing your cache and dalvik fixes some of it
Also stock based roms will always be sluggish, it seems all stock kernels have a entropy issue
There are tonnes of other reason
If you want a smooth and stable rom, i dont necicarily recomend my rom, each device is slightly different, these nano diferences have a bigger effect
Just try out different roms till youn find one you like
If not that unlock your bootloader and install cm10 or aosp
Letamas aosp is about one of the quickest but its buggy and FXP cm10 is great in performance and feels great
BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW TO REPERCUSSIONS OF UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER
(Although unlocked bootloader = freedom)
If you need anything just ask, i didnt cover everything surrounding your point and question
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I know how stuff works, trust me.
Unlocked my bootloader pretty much the instant I got the phone, and I've run a great number already. I guess FXP works great, but I've read the weekly updates don't add that much anymore...
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I know how stuff works, trust me.
Unlocked my bootloader pretty much the instant I got the phone, and I've run a great number already. I guess FXP works great, but I've read the weekly updates don't add that much anymore...
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Hmmm...
You could try miui?
Or maybe the 4.4 project (once started and finished)
Letamas 4.3 is i think the faststest running rom on xperia s but there are some openGL issues which makes gaming a no no
And kitkat 4.4 is designed for devices with 512mb of ram, xperia s has 1gb but some for hardware and gpu as we know
I suggest either using letamas 4.3 (few not working things)
Or waiting for a 4.4 build
Im not to sure about opensemc, i dont realy remember not to sure about some others too
Conclusion:
Stock = always slugish
CM10-11 = Good but some builds are buggy
AOSP - amazing but buggy and no fully working builds ive seen yet
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I'll give letama's a shot then, and we'll see about KitKat. I have a hunch that we will be getting one fairly soon.
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I'll give letama's a shot then, and we'll see about KitKat. I have a hunch that we will be getting one fairly soon.
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RaymanFX i think he said he got it to boot already but he is a super dev like letama
Me and some other people are trying to get Official CM11 (4.4) for xperia s, (petitions blah blah blah)
Me and some other devs are working on AOSP 4.4
So you should see alot of 4.4
Also - read through the bug list of letamas 4.3 build and also notice there are some graphics bugs but everything else is fine as far as i remember
Using letamas 4.3 then going back to stock, stock felt like very slow
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rc_enzo said:
I'm not sure if this is something that happens to a lot of you Nozomi users, but I can always ask for advice.
I skip from custom ROM from time to time just to know what my options are, either experimental or close-to-stock. And quite frankly it is bugging me, that my ROMs always feel sluggish, even when others say it should be quick or smooth.
I just want to have the smoothest, most stable, least sluggish ROM out there (I tend to demand a lot), and it should stay just that. Not that it's blazing fast to begin with, and decreases in speed in a matter of days.
Also, cleanest way to install said ROM? I want to rule out all possible factors.
I hope you can help me along with this,
rc_enzo
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You can always make a clean install.. Wiping everything, format everything and then flash.. That's the best way to avoid any sort of problems in any ROM.. As Envious_Data said, there are lots of advantages of unlocking the bootloader.. And btw if you are going with Stock based ROM, i would suggest u try eXistenZ Ultra and Trintity ROM first and when it comes to AOSP/CM ROMs you can try letama's AOSP 4.3 or RaymanFX's CM10.2 alpha3.. I am currently on CM10.2.. Its very smooth and fluid for an alpha.. I am getting better battery backup too.. Although i have to sacrifice 1080p recording for now, but the ROM is definitely a daily driver.. Go ahead and choose to flash any ROM.. Welcome to Xperia S section..
No offence guys, but I'm not new at the Xperia S, have had the device since november last year, running ROMs since early january.
Thanks for the advice anyway.
I've got the same, my phone runs smooth right after flashing the ROM, but then... I don't know, maybe its because of the way we use our phones?
I have compared my XS to my friends XS - his was very smooth and mine - you know. I have unlocked bootloader to make GTA III run smoothly.
And now - I just got used to this, but I hate my phone
Running letama's 4.3 AOSP, and @Envious_Data thanks for the suggestion, it feels truly rapid and it looks like it will do fine for me. That games and 1080p recording don't work properly, is no burden for me anyway.
Good luck on your developing endeavours, I hope 4.4 progress is good
(this is for future reference)
the Reason why our phones on the stock roms is the same reason why windows slows down
error codes build up and one way to fix half of it is to wipe your cache, (one advantage of apple IOS, does not generate error codes and thus can last a straight 2 months of constant running)
AOSP /CM10/11 are much cleaner then stock and will take alot more time to slow down, and the same goes with Stock ICS, it will slow down a bit but no more then that
GB was about the best, it was perfectly coded , no errors
JB was coded by Sony DEV team B and team B is the ones to F***ed up almost everything they have touched
although Xperia Z run almost the exact same firmware as xperia s it got messed up when they ported it
its why i discontinued my rom, i couldent fix alot of the errors that my self and sony had caused

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