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Stock vs custom: huge dilema.

I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.

stupidslow02gt said:
I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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try stock, try custom.. then let us know whats best for you. choice, my friend, is a wonderful thing

it wont hurt anything to try a custom rom, you can always go back to stock

Have you guys tried the Gummy ROM or lean kernel? Any tips to avoid any of the problems I mentioned such as shutter lag or UI lag?

I had this issue with the GNEX. I have kept it stock so far. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and made a few UI changes and a differnt kernal.
I'm happy with it for now. Who knows what future will hold.

did the stock thing (with a few root mods like battery, menu button, brightness) for a couple months, then loaded up AOKP + leankernel and love the customization and battery life
will not go back to stock

If your device does what you want it to RIGHT NOW, then stay stock. If there are features that you want and only a custom rom can provide, then try a ROM, but be aware that custom kernels and ROMS can break some functions on your phone.
I was using CM7 on my previous android phone and lost the ability to receive voicemail notifications because of it.
Decide if you need "more", but accept any risks that come up because of it.

I suggest you try out AOKP ROM for the additional features and GUI settings. I also use franco. kernel for superior battery life and a noticeable speed increase.
It's a fantastic combo.
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DaF1974 said:
I suggest you try out AOKP ROM for the additional features and GUI settings. I also use franco. kernel for superior battery life and a noticeable speed increase.
It's a fantastic combo.
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+1 for aokp + franco , they are awesome.

Excuse my noobyness but isnt AOKP just a stock untouched firmware? Or is that AOSP.
Just looked up the franco kernel and have read nothing but good things.

Nadroid - flash = see for yourself. I also recommend AOKP M3. And stock has bugs also. The only ROM that ever rebooted on me, was stock. So. Nothing is perfect that is why we like to change everything.

I'm using stock still, but rooted and using a modified status bar transparent. I plan to switch to custom but just taking my time. You can easily just nand backup your stock rom, flash custom for testing, then restore your stock backup if need be. There are lots of enhancements in the custom roms that is worthwhile.

I only got my Galaxy Nexus yesterday, however i think the stock rom is great to be honest.
There was always some problem with custom roms on the Desire.
If i was going to use a custom rom on my Galaxy Nexus i would wait for the stable release of CM9 or MIUI (if there ever is a stable one).
For now stock is fine for me personally, only thing i really miss is all the settings in the notification tray, but rooted stock is working perfect for me and its nice to have a perfectly working phone for once

well well.. flashing phones like samsung jet, omnia II, galaxy s, wave or htc touch diamond or sensation was my life..till i met the sony xperia s.. Now its too hard to decide what to do. Stay on stock or flash the new roms, kernels, mods..again and again. I am on stock now because of few lags..I hadnt expected. I am not gonna explain what was it but I wanna have fully function device on my own and that is why I made the decision to sty on stock. And of course I am still waiting for original upgrade. That is my opinion.

stupidslow02gt said:
I cant decide on whether or not I want to load a custom rom on this phone!
I know this is XDA and everyone will say GO CUTSOM of course, but this is the first device I actually havent considered it. I feel like with every android phone Ive owned
And the hundreds of ROMs Ive used, Ive always experienced negatives that have come along with the positives that a custom ROM brings.
For example ill load up a ROM and it will come with the "best" kernel available, which turns out to cause 69% Android OS drain by the end of the day. Or from searching around here the custom ROM will cause shutter lag or other snall annoying things that I wouldnt be able to tolerate. I just dont know if the trade off is worth it this time as stock ICS works wonderfly for me.
I am however very interested in the 4.0.3 ROMs (even though I have no clue what 4.0.3 offers over 4.0.2) and the best kernel (lean) overclocks, undervolts, AND OC the gpu which i think are all awesome benefits.
Then I go search around about lean and find out that some people are experiencing lag.... Its like why go through all the trouble if im going to get 5 benefits as well as 4 negatives? AND cant get OTA.
Im just wondering if there is anyone out there (not you flashaholics) that feel it is better to stay stock this time around to live in peace so to say lol Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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I know what you mean. I kept mine stock for months, which is longer than any other phone I've had. But I finally bit the bullet and went custom and I'm glad I did. You just gotta try for your self and see which you prefer.

frow86 said:
it wont hurt anything to try a custom rom, you can always go back to stock
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Laird_Attwood said:
I had this issue with the GNEX. I have kept it stock so far. Unlocked bootloader, rooted and made a few UI changes and a differnt kernal.
I'm happy with it for now. Who knows what future will hold.
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after doing whatever you want to your phone, if youre not going to flash anything, relock bootloader
stupidslow02gt said:
Excuse my noobyness but isnt AOKP just a stock untouched firmware? Or is that AOSP.
Just looked up the franco kernel and have read nothing but good things.
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A(ndroid)O(pen)S(ource)P(roject).
A(ndroid)O(pen)K(kang)P(project) is a custom rom by TeamKang, based on AOSP releases from Google.
Search tags: kang, aosp, source.android.com
@OP, i say just go with whatever you feel is working for you. If you feel stock is better, stick with it. I run my nexus bone stock (even with stock recovery, i use fastboot to boot cwm once, flash zip with a different font, just tired of roboto) from time to time, to get a grip of how things are going with official releases. I have no issues.
And there's no more Android OS bug. Use better battery stats (here in xda) to see whats causing wakelocks, which drains battery more than usual. If you have lte device you'll have considerably worse runtime on battery, if you on gsm then you'll get around 1d15h with 3h40 screen on with stock, when all is optimal. Lets face it, current battery technology blows.
Read a lot before flashing anything, till the point you are able to help others when they face issues without having really tested it yourself, to know possible advantages/disadvantages of x software/mod, if its user error, apps, or custom rom, or stock.
This is android as its supposed to be, some have even got bored of how easy it gets to play with this device.
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sillverdj said:
well well.. flashing phones like samsung jet, omnia II, galaxy s, wave or htc touch diamond or sensation was my life..till i met the sony xperia s.. Now its too hard to decide what to do. Stay on stock or flash the new roms, kernels, mods..again and again. I am on stock now because of few lags..I hadnt expected. I am not gonna explain what was it but I wanna have fully function device on my own and that is why I made the decision to sty on stock. And of course I am still waiting for original upgrade. That is my opinion.
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Hey thanks for reviving a 3 month old thread to talk about your Sony phone in the nexus forum LOL
Also I would like to point out that I went AOKP then CM9 then LS all with the Franco kernel and wouldn't think about going back to stock. I would consider the phone unusable compared to what it is now lol

stupidslow02gt said:
Hey thanks for reviving a 3 month old thread to talk about your Sony phone in the nexus forum LOL
Also I would like to point out that I went AOKP then CM9 then LS all with the Franco kernel and wouldn't think about going back to stock. I would consider the phone unusable compared to what it is now lol
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Yea LiquidSmooth is what I'm running on. Very fast and loads of features while being easy on the battery.

Everyone claims their 'insert rom' is easier on battery, but with the exception of those who have actively coded something like AOKP's battery saver, or BAMF Paradigm's tasker support in their LTE widget, its a bunch of BS.
Someone please show me, aside from the above, source code for a rom that saves battery. I'll settle for a github commit.
Most battery savings will come from lack of bugs that cause resource leaks and wake locks, or kernels.
All these claims are ranking right up there with statements like "deodexed for performance" or "ribbed for her pleasure".

I did flash a rom early on (Apex I believe it was) and I forget the reasoning behind me going back to stock but I am completely happy with staying on stock (& rooted) yakju. I will probably go to a rom sometime again in the future but for now I am good.
The good thing about flashing stock is that it is so easy to do it with fastboot so at any time you arent happy with roms you can just go back to stock.

Best rom for now?

Hi i want to know what is the best rom for now? Because i want to change my rom i cant decide which one is good.
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There's not a lot of active rom right now. So kinda hard to giv u some suggestion.
Kindly Hit Thanks Button if i've help u in anyway.

I've used a LOT of the XP roms and first let me say this: there is no truly "best" rom, it all boils down largely to a matter of preference.
I'm currently running TrueAncestor 1.6 and I really like it, but I do miss certain things about ICS. The thing with ICS that's worth understanding is there is no truly stable or complete ICS rom for the Xperia Play. Every ICS rom has bugs or missing features. Some are worse than others. MANY ICS roms drop support for the touchpads in major games (EA Games, Gameloft Games, Rockstar Games) due to a colossal screwup on Sony's part. You can sort of regain the touchpad functionality using things like USB BT Joystick 6 or GameKeyboard, but those are hacks and they eat system resources.
Speaking of resources, ICS roms are also much more system intensive. Your phone will run slower, games will run less well, and your overall performance will be less snappy than GB roms. It's not *terrible* for sure, but Overclock is practically necessary for ICS roms to help make up for that performance loss. The XP's hardware is dated (it was dated when it launched, technically) and it's starting to show. The paltry amount of RAM and single core processor really hurt it's ability to run ICS and still kick ass at games.
Overall though, as far as ICS roms go I'd recommend AOKP, though the dev has gone dark and not updated it in a while. It was pretty good and had a lot of nice features. I hear CM9 is also nice, and it continues to get active support and development, and will eventually be superceded by CM10. Even then though, I still ran into moderate bugs on both of them - AOKP had a persistent problem where the WIFI would stop working due to a bug in the Settings dialog, so turning on/off your Wifi could cause it to stop working altogether, and the only fix was a reflash. It was a major pain in the ass. Other ICS roms will just randomly crash or reboot, or programs won't work or will crash that should otherwise work in ICS. Overall, be prepared for instability and don't expect 100% from your phone with virtually any ICS rom installed. Blame Sony for only releasing a beta of ICS and then dropping support.
There are other good ICS roms, such as ICS++, Ice Cream Sony, and KA, but some or all of those might have lost dev support (it's been a while since I checked) and none of them really did much in terms of feature changes/support, so they've stagnated compared to more active roms.
Honestly, I realize now that there wasn't a ton in ICS that I needed, and having switched back to GB last week I'm very happy I did - performance is better, battery life is tolerable (slightly worse than AOKP was), and games run great, plus I have full touchpad support again. It looked nice, but it didn't really add anything, and the bugs and missing features finally pushed me away from it after almost a year of running it (I've been running ICS since the first ICS ports hit the XP).
As for GB roms - TrueAncestor is good. I was running JokaWild for a bit, and it was ok, but it didn't blow me away, TA's theme is more preferrable to me. I'm running DoomKernel v14 which seems ok - it's also a bit dated though and Doom could probably do some updates to improve it a bit more if he had the time, but I'm sure he's quite busy.
I hope this helps - and good luck.
Also, if you aren't Fastboot enabled, get that done - it's worth the money and you'll need it in the hunt for the best rom, otherwise your selection will be very limited.

I have been using ICS roms and they are my favourite, there is a developer called secho I use many of his ports along with the kernel he recommends my favourite so far

True ancestor with my bloatware remover is my choice
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Also its not Sony's fault about the touchpads its ea gameloft etc
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Thanx guys.. I think i will switxh to gb instead of ics
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illuminerdi said:
I've used a LOT of the XP roms and first let me say this: there is no truly "best" rom, it all boils down largely to a matter of preference.
I'm currently running TrueAncestor 1.6 and I really like it, but I do miss certain things about ICS. The thing with ICS that's worth understanding is there is no truly stable or complete ICS rom for the Xperia Play. Every ICS rom has bugs or missing features. Some are worse than others. MANY ICS roms drop support for the touchpads in major games (EA Games, Gameloft Games, Rockstar Games) due to a colossal screwup on Sony's part. You can sort of regain the touchpad functionality using things like USB BT Joystick 6 or GameKeyboard, but those are hacks and they eat system resources.
Speaking of resources, ICS roms are also much more system intensive. Your phone will run slower, games will run less well, and your overall performance will be less snappy than GB roms. It's not *terrible* for sure, but Overclock is practically necessary for ICS roms to help make up for that performance loss. The XP's hardware is dated (it was dated when it launched, technically) and it's starting to show. The paltry amount of RAM and single core processor really hurt it's ability to run ICS and still kick ass at games.
Overall though, as far as ICS roms go I'd recommend AOKP, though the dev has gone dark and not updated it in a while. It was pretty good and had a lot of nice features. I hear CM9 is also nice, and it continues to get active support and development, and will eventually be superceded by CM10. Even then though, I still ran into moderate bugs on both of them - AOKP had a persistent problem where the WIFI would stop working due to a bug in the Settings dialog, so turning on/off your Wifi could cause it to stop working altogether, and the only fix was a reflash. It was a major pain in the ass. Other ICS roms will just randomly crash or reboot, or programs won't work or will crash that should otherwise work in ICS. Overall, be prepared for instability and don't expect 100% from your phone with virtually any ICS rom installed. Blame Sony for only releasing a beta of ICS and then dropping support.
There are other good ICS roms, such as ICS++, Ice Cream Sony, and KA, but some or all of those might have lost dev support (it's been a while since I checked) and none of them really did much in terms of feature changes/support, so they've stagnated compared to more active roms.
Honestly, I realize now that there wasn't a ton in ICS that I needed, and having switched back to GB last week I'm very happy I did - performance is better, battery life is tolerable (slightly worse than AOKP was), and games run great, plus I have full touchpad support again. It looked nice, but it didn't really add anything, and the bugs and missing features finally pushed me away from it after almost a year of running it (I've been running ICS since the first ICS ports hit the XP).
As for GB roms - TrueAncestor is good. I was running JokaWild for a bit, and it was ok, but it didn't blow me away, TA's theme is more preferrable to me. I'm running DoomKernel v14 which seems ok - it's also a bit dated though and Doom could probably do some updates to improve it a bit more if he had the time, but I'm sure he's quite busy.
I hope this helps - and good luck.
Also, if you aren't Fastboot enabled, get that done - it's worth the money and you'll need it in the hunt for the best rom, otherwise your selection will be very limited.
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Hi thanks for the info and suggestion but what is fastboot enabled? What it can do? Sorry for newbie question im only new at cfw world..
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[ROM] DiXperia 2 'Everlasting' | Performance. Stability. Experience. | 13.08.2012

Xperia NXT 1.2
ICS sucks btw. This custom ROM is smooth and touchpads arent buggy as hell as on ICS..
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My sig. Best from for me.

What Rom do you use?

What rom do you use? OR willing to use?
I wonder what roms are needed to keep runing. I hope this poll makes it clean what rom worth our time, what we should concentrate.
Thanks your vote.

LiteROM
but love CM

I used to have official PAC-MAN, more complet and usefull.
But some problems with the UI (fc) force me to change to unnofficial cm10.2 (bubors).

Cm10.1
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Just vote top of the page. Hard to count, when people post instead of vote.

No vote on xda app
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Using CM10.1.3.
For me, stock lacks smoothness and RAM, CM10.2 lacks network traffic indicator (@bubor, why isn't it corrected after so long?), PACman lacks stability and a proper launcher.
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AndyYan said:
Using CM10.1.3.
For me, stock lacks smoothness and RAM, CM10.2 lacks network traffic indicator (@bubor, why isn't it corrected after so long?), PACman lacks stability and a proper launcher.
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Nobody had decent bug report. Hard to fix a feature what I've never used.
Fixed in 20131110, try it, and report back.

It might create a lot of poll options, but perhaps you should ask which ROM people use, and also which ROM they wish/want to use. A single option could be phrased thusly:
Use LiteROM 0.9 / Want PAC-Man 4.3
Which would be my option, will vote from a PC later to cast my vote in the current poll.
I'm suggesting this because I think the majority here would like to use a different ROM, if only 'X' worked, or 'Y' wasn't unstable. Alternatively, the poll could just be about which ROM people want to use. Saves all the possible use/want combinations.
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Evil Alex said:
It might create a lot of poll options, but perhaps you should ask which ROM people use, and also which ROM they wish/want to use. A single option could be phrased thusly:
Use LiteROM 0.9 / Want PAC-Man 4.3
Which would be my option, will vote from a PC later to cast my vote in the current poll.
I'm suggesting this because I think the majority here would like to use a different ROM, if only 'X' worked, or 'Y' wasn't unstable. Alternatively, the poll could just be about which ROM people want to use. Saves all the possible use/want combinations.
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Single vote serves me. We have 4 android 4.3 rom, and many 4.2. Too few people use glide to have that much roms. Users are fragmented. My cm-10.2 topic is full with useless posts. I have to waste time to confirm a bug, what should be done by others.
It's simple I wouldnt maintain a rom what's used less then 20 people.

Used several
So, im currently on my 4th day using [PORT][ROM][UNOFFICIAL][4.1.2]LiquidSmooth-JellyBean Glide by Ninthsense. So far I cant complain, i dont use BT or Voip services, so I really dont care so much about those issues, at first I used LiteROM the latest one from the greatergood didnt convince me, as it had several issues; after that I flashed CM 10.1 by Spyke555, it was really good and stable but some toggles came out automatically, for example data and, or GPS, meh... went back to stock ICS rooted, with litekernel, wasnt happy due to my battery life, and ram availability. Also my files on the SD card becamekind of unstable, some images were not shown, music couldnt be played... now Im using liquid smooth JB 4.1. Which so far feels really good. Is there another ROM you could reccomend me to use?

bubor said:
Single vote serves me. We have 4 android 4.3 rom, and many 4.2. Too few people use glide to have that much roms. Users are fragmented. My cm-10.2 topic is full with useless posts. I have to waste time to confirm a bug, what should be done by others.
It's simple I wouldnt maintain a rom what's used less then 20 people.
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Good point, I understand and agree. My point is that when you ask which ROM people USE, you're not getting a list of ROMs most worthy of maintaining. You'll get a list of ROMs people use, without knowing why. My guess is that many of the Captivate Glide owners here use a ROM for it's stability, while hoping to be able to switch to another ROM that has more features and is newer, but not stable enough yet.
I use LiteROM because it's stable and has good battery-life. However, if you ask me which ROM I'd really want to use, it's a 4.3 PAC-man.
In short, I think it would be better to poll which ROM people want to see stable.

Evil Alex said:
Good point, I understand and agree. My point is that when you ask which ROM people USE, you're not getting a list of ROMs most worthy of maintaining. You'll get a list of ROMs people use, without knowing why. My guess is that many of the Captivate Glide owners here use a ROM for it's stability, while hoping to be able to switch to another ROM that has more features and is newer, but not stable enough yet.
I use LiteROM because it's stable and has good battery-life. However, if you ask me which ROM I'd really want to use, it's a 4.3 PAC-man.
In short, I think it would be better to poll which ROM people want to see stable.
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PAC-man is a feature rich rom, dont expect same speed/battery usage as a clean rom.
Ppl started to post why, but I dont really care.
I can see how much user download my roms, and they are too few to keep continue my work. At the moment I make more room (cm 10.1, cm 10.2 , pacman, omnirom), but I've got only one vote so far. More room then user(s)

Evil Alex said:
Good point, I understand and agree. My point is that when you ask which ROM people USE, you're not getting a list of ROMs most worthy of maintaining. You'll get a list of ROMs people use, without knowing why. My guess is that many of the Captivate Glide owners here use a ROM for it's stability, while hoping to be able to switch to another ROM that has more features and is newer, but not stable enough yet.
I use LiteROM because it's stable and has good battery-life. However, if you ask me which ROM I'd really want to use, it's a 4.3 PAC-man.
In short, I think it would be better to poll which ROM people want to see stable.
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Of course JB needs more power than ICS. As the number of features rises, energy consumption rises accordingly, dampened by how optimised each feature is. I don't expect the same battery life from a more feature-rich ROM.
But, I do dislike it when a newer ROM consumes twice the energy, whilst I do not make use of all the new features. However, it is unfair to compare a stable ROM to any other that still suffers (seemingly) random reboots. A reboot, it seems to me, is a short period of high CPU use. The more often a ROM reboots, the more the battery is drained.
Anyway, I just want a stable PAC-man 4.3. I voted for LiteROM, because it is has insane battery-life, more than I need(hence my desire for a more stable 4.3 PAC). I think the votes to this poll will reflect with which ROM people are most satisfied with. And I think their satisfaction is strongly related to how stable it is, which I think is inversely related to how much work there is left to do. Which is related to the work required in maintaining it.
Having said all this, I should mention how grateful I am to all developers. Development is no easy task, and not too often a rewarding one either. Dealing with users that just want stuff and expect it to be done yesterday seems very demotivating to me, so I really appreciate all the work done by the developers here. Including you, bubor!
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Evil Alex said:
Of course JB needs more power than ICS. As the number of features rises, energy consumption rises accordingly, dampened by how optimised each feature is. I don't expect the same battery life from a more feature-rich ROM.
But, I do dislike it when a newer ROM consumes twice the energy, whilst I do not make use of all the new features. However, it is unfair to compare a stable ROM to any other that still suffers (seemingly) random reboots. A reboot, it seems to me, is a short period of high CPU use. The more often a ROM reboots, the more the battery is drained.
Anyway, I just want a stable PAC-man 4.3. I voted for LiteROM, because it is has insane battery-life, more than I need(hence my desire for a more stable 4.3 PAC). I think the votes to this poll will reflect with which ROM people are most satisfied with. And I think their satisfaction is strongly related to how stable it is, which I think is inversely related to how much work there is left to do. Which is related to the work required in maintaining it.
Having said all this, I should mention how grateful I am to all developers. Development is no easy task, and not too often a rewarding one either. Dealing with users that just want stuff and expect it to be done yesterday seems very demotivating to me, so I really appreciate all the work done by the developers here. Including you, bubor!
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Actually newer roms uses less cpu, and roms are faster.
Of corse I want to get official android 4.4 from google to i927 We have too few users, and they are seperate to diffrent roms, what makes much more harder to go forward.
Literom has litkernel, right? Litekernel has many power drain improve, but it costs many issue too ( broken wifi tethering, long wake etc)
Anyway you can use litekernel with newer roms with all its feature.

Did I just catch you contradicting yourself...? You can't say newer ROMs use more CPU (due to being more feature-rich), and then turn around and say newer ROMs use less CPU and are faster. Which is it? I'm thoroughly confused, now... It doesn't really matter, not the point.
Anyway, since you're the developer, I'd say it's your call. Most users here basically want the same: Something post-ICS, as stable as possible, and preferably as close as possible to the latest and greatest.
So, if you decide to focus on that and ditch the rest, I think you'll still have plenty of users willing to test whichever ROM you choose. Of course, people will whine about their ROM not being chosen, but that is unavoidable.
I'll stop now, it's getting way off-topic
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Evil Alex said:
You can't say newer ROMs use more CPU (due to being more feature-rich)
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You really misunderstand me, never said that. MAybe I wasnt clear enought. Dont expect same performance between Feature rich and clean rom, but same services are faster in 4.3.
You shouldnt post like this, its not forward at all. You just troll that topic, what is made to search Interesting. I see, you enjoy troll better then work for solution.
I dont wanna waste you time, I stop here too.

Bubor,I use your cm 10.2 latest and haven't had any problems with it at all!(well one no way to turn on hotword detection on Google now)not a biggie though
I know it would probably be a hard task but hope to see a kitkat rom on our captivate I think it would run great!

please vote if you didnt do yet.

i'm on the offical pacman but i will change soon to cm10.2 or back to literom if i don't have a choice.
but if you want to focus on one or two roms, i think you should focus of cm10.2 and omnirom 4.4, i will flash eiter one as long its stable enugh.

Looking for new ROM?

Hello there. I'm using FXP CM10 since May 2013. I want to try something new, but as I read all ROMs seem buggy and messy. Is there anything 100% complete and working(like the CM10), that is Android 4.3 or 4.4? Recommend me a ROM please. I mean totally bug-less, I can't afford to tolerate reboots or battery drains.
Thanks!

G.Trenchev said:
Hello there. I'm using FXP CM10 since May 2013. I want to try something new, but as I read all ROMs seem buggy and messy. Is there anything 100% complete and working(like the CM10), that is Android 4.3 or 4.4? Recommend me a ROM please. I mean totally bug-less, I can't afford to tolerate reboots or battery drains.
Thanks!
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The least buggy build is 4.2.2 CM by RaymanFX. I suggest you don't try 4.4/4.3 as you'll be very disappointed.

That's it for almost a year? Very disappointing development for XS

G.Trenchev said:
That's it for almost a year? Very disappointing development for XS
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Quite a judgmental statement. There aren't many developers left for the XS. It's a miracle that RaymanFX has spent countless hours on his own on this device. If you're not happy, you should get a new phone or learn to develop ROM's yourself.

Probably a new device. Thanks for quick info!

I've been using several betas of CM11, Carbon ROM and now Paranoid Android 4.2/4.3 and i have to say PA works pretty well, a lot more stable than the first two. Except for screenshots and fuzzy images in recents bar I haven't encountered any problems so far in the newest beta 2 of Paranoid Android 4.3. It's fast, stable and battery life is good. deedwar said hes working on the screenshot thing if rayman doesn't beat him to it. Oh, and the xperia S has official legacy support including OTA updates. I can't say that its working 100% because all 4.4 roms lack things like hdmi (I never even used that once) and some other stuff, but for everyday use its ok. there's no harm in trying it out.

So is Oxygen still the fastest alternative?

Broke my current phone and will have to use my old Desire for a couple of weeks. Last time I used it I remember Oxygen based roms were the fastest by far. Is this still true, or is the new kitkat a true contender?
I tĥink I used a rom called nicks phone.. anyone still use it? Although when I booted up the phone a few minutes ago it had Mildwild on, but totally unconfigured so I dont think ive really used it. Seems a bit sluggish though so i will want to install something else.
So I guess super fast and snappy are my only wishes. Old or new version of android, extra features, etc doesnt matter.

As a general rule, gingerbread AOSP ROMs were 'fastest' and most stable for Desire
As a more universal rule however, it's better to try different ROMs for your usage and preferences. Others can only really give their experiences with different setups etc, and their definition of fast, stable, "amazing battery" will differ massively.
- Nandroid backup
- Full wipe install new rom
- Test
- (Optional: repeat/restore backup)
- Make up mind

I used to care about getting the latest android version, but ICS and beyond the camera was unusable and everything was just laggy. I moved back to gingerbread and have been using mildwild's rom based on oxygen for over a year. It doesn't contain very much customization, but its stable and as snappy as we're going to get on such an old phone. No one's really developing for the desire anymore so I've decided to just stop playing around with other roms since this one doesn't give me any problems. Here's a link to the rom

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I used to care about getting the latest android version, but ICS and beyond the camera was unusable and everything was just laggy. I moved back to gingerbread and have been using mildwild's rom based on oxygen for over a year. It doesn't contain very much customization, but its stable and as snappy as we're going to get on such an old phone. No one's really developing for the desire anymore so I've decided to just stop playing around with other roms since this one doesn't give me any problems. Here's a link to the rom
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Thanks, just the kind of input I was looking for. Just flashed the rom and the update andit seems Lightning fast. But I cannot start Play store as it crashes. Did you experience this issue?
Could I just flash latest gapps on this install?

Had to remove the Mildwild rom because there was no way to fix Play store. Ended up installing the rom Nicks Phone instead. Blazing fast and everything works perfect. Its also based on Oxygen and I really recommend it.
Link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521514

I have no problems with the playstore

_jonte said:
Broke my current phone and will have to use my old Desire for a couple of weeks. Last time I used it I remember Oxygen based roms were the fastest by far. Is this still true, or is the new kitkat a true contender?
I tĥink I used a rom called nicks phone.. anyone still use it? Although when I booted up the phone a few minutes ago it had Mildwild on, but totally unconfigured so I dont think ive really used it. Seems a bit sluggish though so i will want to install something else.
So I guess super fast and snappy are my only wishes. Old or new version of android, extra features, etc doesnt matter.
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Try a stock rooted rom with a2sd. E.g Gingerbread 2.3.3, there are many available and everything works.
Cheers

I'm using official oxygen ROM and it's still by far the fastest. Kk Roms all slow down and become unstable after a few days.
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Someone can give me link to oxygen rom i cant find working mirror

I can't remember where I found it. I had to search a bit. Took me even longer to find the track pad to wake mod.
I would upload a copy but I don't have a home internet plan and am really low on data right now.
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I'm using official oxygen ROM and it's still by far the fastest. Kk Roms all slow down and become unstable after a few days.
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For me, evervolv has done a great job. Here is the link
It is almost as snappy as oxygen and plus it has the latest android technology. No added lag after a few days whatsoever.
If Nikez fixes the kernel to be a 3.x one I think we will have a winner.
So for me, Oxygen comes first and Evervolv's KitKat comes second in terms of performance.
But I still have updated to Evervolv since Desire is now a good backup device for me that I use as a GPS etc.

I'm still on oxygen. Weeks now as my daily driver work phone and it's fast and stable. Leaving my n5 at home to keep it safe.
Unless someone can honestly say that stability has changed leaps and bounds in the past couple months then I see now point in going through the frustration of any regularly crashing kk rom on the desire. I think it's come as far as possible and just can't run the new stuff.
I'm really hoping the newer stuff like my n5 will be different and able to work reliably in a couple more years on up to date software. Hardware wise my desire is holding up like new after almost 4 years. I hate to toss it while its still good.
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