They say that 4.4 will be much more lite to be able to run on low end 512 devices, any devs having some cravings?
I'm still running flinnycm101_vision_22 (Android 4.2.2), and I'm looking forward to 4.4 as wel as you, especially because since 4.3 should include SELinux by default and because it uses less resources (which could make stuff easier for Devs).
4.3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2402643
I'll be visiting http://andromadus.flinny.org/ regularly, as wel as this forum.
I'm running the CM10.1 rom as well, and loving it. I think that KitKat will be ported over, or so I hope. I do have some of the features from it, such as the launcher and the new hangouts, running on it (You can search for a Nexus 5 rom rip on DroidLife to find them since I can't post links yet.) We will see -crosses fingers-
I say yes - if similar devices like Desire HD, Desire S get working kernel.
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I say yes - if similar devices like Desire HD, Desire S get working kernel.
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I do hope they release kitkat 4.4 for us but I hope the gpu performance will be better than in jb in which beta drivers were used. This my only concern, to be able to play games as good as in gingerbread
For me unfortunately not !
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Soon, 4.3 (CM10.2) will come and I think, it will be the last one..
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For me unfortunately not !
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Soon, 4.3 (CM10.2) will come and I think, it will be the last one..
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Which is exactly why I'm slowly researching into porting roms.
Related
Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
Android 4.1 will get interactive notifications, overhauled search results, faster touch-screen response, and a tool to tell people information they may want to know about what's going on nearby and what they might need to know.
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-4.1.html
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
I like it. Nice adjusments. Better than other i..OS-es in my opinion. Looking forward for the port.
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I like it. Nice adjusments. Better than other i..OS-es in my opinion. Looking forward for the port.
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If we get one. Ics is enough of a pain in the backside to get working with the defy.
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jelly bean on defy?
There may be a future development of android jelly bean for defy ? Or he does not have enough hardware?
froyo was best for defy
GB was compatible
ICS not so compatible
JB don't know if any possibilities
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froyo was best for defy
GB was compatible
ICS not so compatible
JB don't know if any possibilities
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i think a bit different
FROYO was the worst for defy
GB was very good
ICS is definitely the best ( some exceptions though )
JB - maybe it would be even better
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i think a bit different
FROYO was the worst for defy
GB was very good
ICS is definitely the best ( some exceptions though )
JB - maybe it would be even better
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I totally agree that Froyo was the worst, it's so slow and ugly :silly: Gingerbread was a huge improvement and Ice Cream Sandwich is an even bigger improvement, but at the moment not all the power of it can be harnessed by our DEFY, so I'd say that Gingerbread is the best. But Motorola is to blame for that, cause with those proper custom kernels, ICS would be flying So, if no way for custom kernels to run arises, I'm guessing that troubles with missing libraries will be even bigger with Jelly Bean, so we might just not even see a CM based on JB for DEFY
Found the Jellybean wallpapers and the new bootanimation over at Android authority!
>>>>>Android Jelly Bean Goodies<<<<<
Has anyone tried the new Jelly Bean VoiceSearch/GoogleQuickSearchBox on our ICS builds yet? I've been searching all over, no-one has yet to post it. You guys had any luck?
I've just tried Jelly Bean on Galaxy Nexus, it's way more faster than ICS because it has this Project Butter (newer hwa) which makes UI constant on 60FPS, so no more UI lags!
Jelly Bean is based on ICS so there won't be so much trouble about porting it because we already have ICS
I think the main question would be whether Project Butter will run with our Froyo/GB Kernel we have to stick with?!
This is one of Epsylon3's posts on Google+. He's just awesome!
Thats great !!
He can takes his time, we will apreciate it very much anyway.
defy developers are really making effort.
I didn't see that on any other device forums
The efforts have been fruitful since the long study made by our developers . They made it easy . since once you get to know how things work . and how the ideas are and what kernel functions and codes u shd be actually knowing . It becomes lots easy for implementation
The Best of The Best of the BEST Dev World
As said : Our defy Devs is the most talented and supportive in all thread with even an locked BL , Don,t know how to give them the deserved appreciation
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This is one of Epsylon3's posts on Google+. He's just awesome!
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Awesome..
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I want to know how ep3 it's going to manage the fact that chrome it's the default web explorer in jelly bean when it's not yet functional in ice cream sandwich...
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This is one of Epsylon3's posts on Google+. He's just awesome!
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it will awesome for all of us , if it happened some how , our developers are best of all others ,
we were just given eclair , we had froyo(modded roms) , GB roms ( best and great performance ) , and we had ICS all good , except some issues due to locked bootloaders, otherwise we at this time could had best ICS rom Available ....... developers are trying their best working day & night for us ,
I am sure that we all will have jelly bean ,( not fully functional though ), but our great developers will make it happen for us all .......
once this Bootloader thing gets solved some how , can't say how ,
we gonna have rocking roms with overall best performance than all the device present in this xda forum ...... and i can bet on this ......
atlast thanks to all the developers of DEFY & DEFY PLUS .......
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I know its kinda noob question but im really new to this scene (not to android) and had desire before so i really cant decide what custom rom to install. I need a close to stock custom maybe with some speed tweaks. Right now im leaning toward cm 10.0 and see a lot of other roms with similar options. Im asking here becouse besides the options the rom has for me its also important the stability and more to be from a trusted and active developer.
Just share your experience with the rom you use if u can i willl be thankfull just to get some orientation to the scene.
Do you also let people choose your favorite color or car manufacturer for you? Seriously, test drive some and see what works best for you?
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Do you also let people choose your favorite color or car manufacturer for you? Seriously, test drive some and see what works best for you?
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These threads should die a slow unanswered death.
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wow what an answers. i simply asked and if u mind u simply dont have to answer. as for test drive not everyone has the time to play that much with flashing nor the will to try every rom out there. this place is for people to share experiences and like u smart as.s idiots to curse to everyone who whod dare to ask a noob question. if i didnt had respect for this place i wouldnt asked in Q.A and would of used development sections as many do. so if u have no intention helping someone just bugg of and mind your bussines
Well, according to your first post, CM is probably the rom for you; i still agree that you should test drive available roms. Some have more customisation options, others adopt a more debloated approach like aosp itself, and you can even build aosp by yourself!
I run a modified build of aosp put together by myself.
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i guess ill start with cm thank you and ur right if its to bloated ill beter learn to build a custom AOSP i havent done it but read the guide it didnt seem to hard to do it i have a decent power pc i guess. thnxs for the input
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I know its kinda noob question but im really new to this scene (not to android) and had desire before so i really cant decide what custom rom to install. I need a close to stock custom maybe with some speed tweaks. Right now im leaning toward cm 10.0 and see a lot of other roms with similar options. Im asking here becouse besides the options the rom has for me its also important the stability and more to be from a trusted and active developer.
Just share your experience with the rom you use if u can i willl be thankfull just to get some orientation to the scene.
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Rasbean Jelly is an excellent ROM, close to stock. Check out the Trnity Kernel thread. Rasbean+ Trinity, ftw !
hi. I also came from desire and so far I love the Galaxy Nexus. There's a great variety of ROMs here. So far I have tried a few, but if you are looking for a fast, stable one I would recommend Atom. I am currently on v1.25 for the maguro & I'm expecting the next version with jellybean 4.2 to drop shortly. I'm also using the Zen series kernel v7. I'm having stunning performance and battery life. over 4 hours of screen-on time with the latest kernel. it's a bit different from the other cm / aosp / aokp ROMs around. worth a shot!
alternatively, if you like 'darkness' you can try xblack. if you want to have hybrid options I.e. tablet interface on your nexus you can always give paranoid android a go. they willprobably update to 4.2 intheirlatest build expected to drop tonight anytime.
ps: haters gonna hate! ignore the un-friendlies! we all got to start somewhere.
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I know its kinda noob question but im really new to this scene (not to android) and had desire before so i really cant decide what custom rom to install. I need a close to stock custom maybe with some speed tweaks. Right now im leaning toward cm 10.0 and see a lot of other roms with similar options. Im asking here becouse besides the options the rom has for me its also important the stability and more to be from a trusted and active developer.
Just share your experience with the rom you use if u can i willl be thankfull just to get some orientation to the scene.
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just tried them both rasbean and atom and i like atom more but rasbean not bad also. ill try few more till a stable custom 4.2 comes around. desire scene was good but contagious it was easy to get a flashing mania and i guess this scene is also dangerous to become flash maniac not that i mind to
Well I was a flashaholic on the desire, simply because we never quite really had a stable experience on ICS and JB. So, it was a never ending quest to find a ROM (or upgrade) that was really stable and useful. Not to mention the countless issues with regards to space/sdcard/partitioning/hboot and what not!!!
I am just glad to be on Galaxy Nexus. There are some insane number of ROMs available. I try to stick to one for a couple of weeks at least and only then switch. I am now near that phase where I am itching to try something new. So, I am keeping my fingers dropped that ATOM drops the latest version (4.2) for maguro ... I know the dev already released a toro version (few days ago).
PS: You can always bookmark/subscribe to the ROM/Kernel Index (in my signature)
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just tried them both rasbean and atom and i like atom more but rasbean not bad also. ill try few more till a stable custom 4.2 comes around. desire scene was good but contagious it was easy to get a flashing mania and i guess this scene is also dangerous to become flash maniac not that i mind to
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Bugless beast is my suggestion for essentially stock... CNA is my preference for a ROM with many customizations, but I don't believe either have a 4.2 build yet (could be wrong). Currently using MMuzzy's 4.2 ROM for my toro gnex and very pleased.
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I'm not sure if this is something that happens to a lot of you Nozomi users, but I can always ask for advice.
I skip from custom ROM from time to time just to know what my options are, either experimental or close-to-stock. And quite frankly it is bugging me, that my ROMs always feel sluggish, even when others say it should be quick or smooth.
I just want to have the smoothest, most stable, least sluggish ROM out there (I tend to demand a lot), and it should stay just that. Not that it's blazing fast to begin with, and decreases in speed in a matter of days.
Also, cleanest way to install said ROM? I want to rule out all possible factors.
I hope you can help me along with this,
rc_enzo
Almost all stock roms will eventualy slow down
All them error codes just gather up
Clearing your cache and dalvik fixes some of it
Also stock based roms will always be sluggish, it seems all stock kernels have a entropy issue
There are tonnes of other reason
If you want a smooth and stable rom, i dont necicarily recomend my rom, each device is slightly different, these nano diferences have a bigger effect
Just try out different roms till youn find one you like
If not that unlock your bootloader and install cm10 or aosp
Letamas aosp is about one of the quickest but its buggy and FXP cm10 is great in performance and feels great
BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW TO REPERCUSSIONS OF UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER
(Although unlocked bootloader = freedom)
If you need anything just ask, i didnt cover everything surrounding your point and question
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I know how stuff works, trust me.
Unlocked my bootloader pretty much the instant I got the phone, and I've run a great number already. I guess FXP works great, but I've read the weekly updates don't add that much anymore...
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I know how stuff works, trust me.
Unlocked my bootloader pretty much the instant I got the phone, and I've run a great number already. I guess FXP works great, but I've read the weekly updates don't add that much anymore...
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Hmmm...
You could try miui?
Or maybe the 4.4 project (once started and finished)
Letamas 4.3 is i think the faststest running rom on xperia s but there are some openGL issues which makes gaming a no no
And kitkat 4.4 is designed for devices with 512mb of ram, xperia s has 1gb but some for hardware and gpu as we know
I suggest either using letamas 4.3 (few not working things)
Or waiting for a 4.4 build
Im not to sure about opensemc, i dont realy remember not to sure about some others too
Conclusion:
Stock = always slugish
CM10-11 = Good but some builds are buggy
AOSP - amazing but buggy and no fully working builds ive seen yet
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I'll give letama's a shot then, and we'll see about KitKat. I have a hunch that we will be getting one fairly soon.
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I'll give letama's a shot then, and we'll see about KitKat. I have a hunch that we will be getting one fairly soon.
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RaymanFX i think he said he got it to boot already but he is a super dev like letama
Me and some other people are trying to get Official CM11 (4.4) for xperia s, (petitions blah blah blah)
Me and some other devs are working on AOSP 4.4
So you should see alot of 4.4
Also - read through the bug list of letamas 4.3 build and also notice there are some graphics bugs but everything else is fine as far as i remember
Using letamas 4.3 then going back to stock, stock felt like very slow
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I'm not sure if this is something that happens to a lot of you Nozomi users, but I can always ask for advice.
I skip from custom ROM from time to time just to know what my options are, either experimental or close-to-stock. And quite frankly it is bugging me, that my ROMs always feel sluggish, even when others say it should be quick or smooth.
I just want to have the smoothest, most stable, least sluggish ROM out there (I tend to demand a lot), and it should stay just that. Not that it's blazing fast to begin with, and decreases in speed in a matter of days.
Also, cleanest way to install said ROM? I want to rule out all possible factors.
I hope you can help me along with this,
rc_enzo
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You can always make a clean install.. Wiping everything, format everything and then flash.. That's the best way to avoid any sort of problems in any ROM.. As Envious_Data said, there are lots of advantages of unlocking the bootloader.. And btw if you are going with Stock based ROM, i would suggest u try eXistenZ Ultra and Trintity ROM first and when it comes to AOSP/CM ROMs you can try letama's AOSP 4.3 or RaymanFX's CM10.2 alpha3.. I am currently on CM10.2.. Its very smooth and fluid for an alpha.. I am getting better battery backup too.. Although i have to sacrifice 1080p recording for now, but the ROM is definitely a daily driver.. Go ahead and choose to flash any ROM.. Welcome to Xperia S section..
No offence guys, but I'm not new at the Xperia S, have had the device since november last year, running ROMs since early january.
Thanks for the advice anyway.
I've got the same, my phone runs smooth right after flashing the ROM, but then... I don't know, maybe its because of the way we use our phones?
I have compared my XS to my friends XS - his was very smooth and mine - you know. I have unlocked bootloader to make GTA III run smoothly.
And now - I just got used to this, but I hate my phone
Running letama's 4.3 AOSP, and @Envious_Data thanks for the suggestion, it feels truly rapid and it looks like it will do fine for me. That games and 1080p recording don't work properly, is no burden for me anyway.
Good luck on your developing endeavours, I hope 4.4 progress is good
(this is for future reference)
the Reason why our phones on the stock roms is the same reason why windows slows down
error codes build up and one way to fix half of it is to wipe your cache, (one advantage of apple IOS, does not generate error codes and thus can last a straight 2 months of constant running)
AOSP /CM10/11 are much cleaner then stock and will take alot more time to slow down, and the same goes with Stock ICS, it will slow down a bit but no more then that
GB was about the best, it was perfectly coded , no errors
JB was coded by Sony DEV team B and team B is the ones to F***ed up almost everything they have touched
although Xperia Z run almost the exact same firmware as xperia s it got messed up when they ported it
its why i discontinued my rom, i couldent fix alot of the errors that my self and sony had caused
Hello there. I'm using FXP CM10 since May 2013. I want to try something new, but as I read all ROMs seem buggy and messy. Is there anything 100% complete and working(like the CM10), that is Android 4.3 or 4.4? Recommend me a ROM please. I mean totally bug-less, I can't afford to tolerate reboots or battery drains.
Thanks!
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Hello there. I'm using FXP CM10 since May 2013. I want to try something new, but as I read all ROMs seem buggy and messy. Is there anything 100% complete and working(like the CM10), that is Android 4.3 or 4.4? Recommend me a ROM please. I mean totally bug-less, I can't afford to tolerate reboots or battery drains.
Thanks!
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The least buggy build is 4.2.2 CM by RaymanFX. I suggest you don't try 4.4/4.3 as you'll be very disappointed.
That's it for almost a year? Very disappointing development for XS
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That's it for almost a year? Very disappointing development for XS
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Quite a judgmental statement. There aren't many developers left for the XS. It's a miracle that RaymanFX has spent countless hours on his own on this device. If you're not happy, you should get a new phone or learn to develop ROM's yourself.
Probably a new device. Thanks for quick info!
I've been using several betas of CM11, Carbon ROM and now Paranoid Android 4.2/4.3 and i have to say PA works pretty well, a lot more stable than the first two. Except for screenshots and fuzzy images in recents bar I haven't encountered any problems so far in the newest beta 2 of Paranoid Android 4.3. It's fast, stable and battery life is good. deedwar said hes working on the screenshot thing if rayman doesn't beat him to it. Oh, and the xperia S has official legacy support including OTA updates. I can't say that its working 100% because all 4.4 roms lack things like hdmi (I never even used that once) and some other stuff, but for everyday use its ok. there's no harm in trying it out.
When will we have have the sweet lollipop release for our device ? Really impatient !! Looks so good ! Hope the developers gets their heads cracking on it after the sdk is released !!
Good Luck Developers !!
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When will we have have the sweet lollipop release for our device ? Really impatient !! Looks so good ! Hope the developers gets their heads cracking on it after the sdk is released !!
Good Luck Developers !!
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There isn't even quite a stable, 100% daily driver ready Jellybean rom, at least last I checked. My Galaxy Nexus struggles with KitKat. I think Lollipop for the Dinc is a bit over-enthusiastic, as good of a phone as it was.
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There isn't even quite a stable, 100% daily driver ready Jellybean rom, at least last I checked. My Galaxy Nexus struggles with KitKat. I think Lollipop for the Dinc is a bit over-enthusiastic, as good of a phone as it was.
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Cm10.1 ran quite well all things considering.
That said unless evervolv does a lollipop build I don't think we'll ever see lollipop on this device. Sometimes it's best to let things die.
What he said. ^^^^ The Evervolv project has been very quiet the past few months. Maybe they are just saving their energy for Lollipop - or maybe they have moved on. My Dinc's are no longer activated, (I'm running various CDMA Galaxy Nexus's), so I won't be able to do much to get data working like I did on kitkat. Nevertheless, if Evervolv does a Lollipop build for the Nexus One, it is very likely that we can get a build for the Dinc that is at least semi-functional.
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What he said. ^^^^ The Evervolv project has been very quiet the past few months. Maybe they are just saving their energy for Lollipop - or maybe they have moved on. My Dinc's are no longer activated, (I'm running various CDMA Galaxy Nexus's), so I won't be able to do much to get data working like I did on kitkat. Nevertheless, if Evervolv does a Lollipop build for the Nexus One, it is very likely that we can get a build for the Dinc that is at least semi-functional.
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That'd be great :laugh: I'd love to pull my old dinc out and see it running lollipop
lolipop on HTC Droid Incredible
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That'd be great :laugh: I'd love to pull my old dinc out and see it running lollipop
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I would like to see this happen as well.
What concerns me is the size of the /System partition(250MB) ...
3 KitKat roms have been created thus far(at least that i have found) and it is a super tight fit and Gapps barely fits if at all
(0KB remaining after installing Gapps onto cm11)
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Therefore i feel maybe the next goal we should be working on together is to resize all the partitions on the phone to a more practical standard. This would fix nearly all of out issues.(except RAM and Processor of course).
ive researched this a bit and it seems we'd need to do something with the bootloader, i am having some trouble finding documentation on this though.
the current layout is: better layout might be:
250MB for /system 1024M
150MB for /data/data 512M
750MB for /data 1024M
200MB for /cache 800M
6144MB for /emmc 4134M
If we get this fixed then i believe it would solve alot of the problems we are running into.
after that then maybe the goal should be to get a lolipop rom up and running?