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Thinking of jumping ship?

So, had the One X since release date, always had HTC before this. But after having all the issues that have been described here on xda, I spoke to my network (3 uk) and they have said that so long as its within 28 days of the 4/4/12 that they will either replace it for a new one or any other model that they stock.
Now, I'm a flashaholic. I do not want to use the HTC unlock method, always relied on the very clever peeps here for "alternative" ways of s-off. But as it seems the biggest team of Revolutionary aren't working on the One X. I'm considering leaving the HTC brand and moving to the Galaxy Note?
Have any of you guys left the note to come here? It looks the part on paper at least?
Anyone else from 3 UK willing to take the plunge if the offer was sat there?
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I think you shouldn't switch to the Note...
Sooner or later there will be a S-OFF tool.
The NOte is IMO too big, but that's your decision. The other reasons why I dodn't get the note:
- DPI is not as high
- the PenTile thing, this means the display has 33% red and blue subpixels. some people don't notice, but I do: there's not a single straight line. it appears as if every other row of pixels was shifted by 0.5 pixels; I just can't stand it.
I highly recommend you to check if that's a problem for you before getting it. Just saying
P.S: Even though the One X isn't perfect, it's the phone the closest to perfect I ever had.

Iff i waz you id go for Gnexus over note the note is ridiculously big my sister has it as a work phone
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see the thing is i am on Three UK as well. and i had the choice for my two replacements i had so far to go for a different handset. and both times i got close going for the gnexus. now all this hype about quadcore for me i am sorry i really did not notice it so far with the HTC one x...yeah apps load faster than ever but 50% of the apps stuck in loading phase...anyways still a great phone i say and i am more than likely to stick with it because i am really liking stock Sense now
but i do miss overclocking and undervolting and also using an AOKP rom...tough decisions to make one thing i do hate about this phone is though why HTC locked the bootloader..why not just unlock it..
Note no way man stay clear of that huge thing..no no no

Hmmmm? Thanks for the replies folks. As for the size issue (that's what she said!) Im not thay concerned, saying that I've never held one! But I currently have a Advent Vega, that if the Note could replace might be a good thing? Kinda streamline my tech, save me carrying 2 devices?
But aswell as a flashaholic, I'm a sucker for POWER! 1.5ghz quad core vs 1.4ghz dual core? I feel in a real dilemma, I love HTC, always have, but the ONE X has, so far, let me down.
@Dobbi, I will look into the red/blue pixel issue, I have now been spoilt by the quality of the one x screen! It is nice.
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x5starguerillaa said:
Hmmmm? Thanks for the replies folks. As for the size issue (that's what she said!) Im not thay concerned, saying that I've never held one! But I currently have a Advent Vega, that if the Note could replace might be a good thing? Kinda streamline my tech, save me carrying 2 devices?
But aswell as a flashaholic, I'm a sucker for POWER! 1.5ghz quad core vs 1.4ghz dual core? I feel in a real dilemma, I love HTC, always have, but the ONE X has, so far, let me down.
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all honesty mate...it is like cameras..more megapixels does not mean you are going to get better picture. same with the quadcores..so far i would say and yes i know i might get flamed for this my s2 dual core felt bit more snappier at times compare to the one x. so if you are really a flashaholic then maybe the phone to go for is the gnexus...the development for that phone is crazy...but at this moment of time i still will go as to say i will stick with the one x..this must be the longest time i gone without flashing

In all honesty too........my Sensation felt better than my One X.
Please don't go mad at me people. I not a massive sense fan, so that was always the first thing that went once s-off was achieved and all the roms about seem to be sense based or desensed. Not AOSP. I respect all our Devs massively and I am not clever enough or do I have time enough to even begin to learn how to build roms from the ground up using AOSP. But even the sensation was lacking in these roms.
Oh man. I may have to have a long hard think about if I'm ready to leave HTC.
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Note is excellent don't let anyone put you off it, I've played with it many times and the size is a sweet spot. I've had the S2 before the HOX and don't find the HOX that much of a jump in size. It's nice the 4.7" but the 5.3" of the note gives you some more real estate.
You get use to the size after a while.
I'm holding ship with the HOX for the time being the only phone that can sway me away will be the SGS3 only if it excels the HOX but for me it'll be down to the software side and not hardware. Sense > TouchWiz.

I'm in a similar situation only that I've not ordered my HOX yet and I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus. My biggest issue is to be frank all the problems you guys seem to be having with the htc , i dont care what people say you should NOT be having these sort of issues with a final retail handset. I jumped to samsung with the galaxy s2 after years of htc handset (android & wm) and looking back I'm glad I did. How can anyone defend this locked bootloader policy? seems like the days of simply plugging the phone in and flashing straight from the box are gone for htc which brings me onto samsung.... everything is geared towards flashing there phones, hell Ive even got a £2 clip which unbricks your samsung should anything go wrong With all that said I always a space in my heart for htc just a shame this whole mess may have put me off this time round.
Come next week when I can upgrade I'm 90% sure I'll order the samsung note partly for the reasons above and partly because it is such a sweet device despite the PenTile display which is not noticeable, trust me
oh and dont go for the gnexus if you use any games what so ever the gpu is crap and the main reason I switching (missing my psx gaming fun)

ratcom said:
I'm in a similar situation only that I've not ordered my HOX yet and I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus. My biggest issue is to be frank all the problems you guys seem to be having with the htc , i dont care what people say you should NOT be having these sort of issues with a final retail handset. I jumped to samsung with the galaxy s2 after years of htc handset (android & wm) and looking back I'm glad I did. How can anyone defend this locked bootloader policy? seems like the days of simply plugging the phone in and flashing straight from the box are gone for htc which brings me onto samsung.... everything is geared towards flashing there phones, hell Ive even got a £2 clip which unbricks your samsung should anything go wrong With all that said I always a space in my heart for htc just a shame this whole mess may have put me off this time round.
Come next week when I can upgrade I'm 90% sure I'll order the samsung note partly for the reasons above and partly because it is such a sweet device despite the PenTile display which is not noticeable, trust me
oh and dont go for the gnexus if you use any games what so ever the gpu is crap and the main reason I switching (missing my psx gaming fun)
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so you saying the nexus is not worth swapping this one for then?

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so you saying the nexus is not worth swapping this one for then?
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No way mate ..... dont get me wrong the nexus is very nice and there's more custom roms than you can shake a stick at but the camera is well.... **** and the gpu is shameful I found games really struggle to the point i dont bother now as much pity really .........

I game on my gnex and it doesnt lag??? And the camera is decent aswell especialy video www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePfy25sS0Yo&feature=player_embedded
And at the min gaming on the ox isnt awesome YET just see the genral section thread created already

Best thing to do is go to a shop and test the devices and decide.
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well i am sticking with my htc one x for now...the more i hold it the more i am falling in love with it....it was the same when i had my galaxy s2..was scared to root it in the start but once it was done i could not stop flashing..same with the HOX. once i get my grey replacement that would be it for me...hate it or love it this phone does grow on you and no matter what flaws i still would recommend it

snowwhite007 said:
I game on my gnex and it doesnt lag??? And the camera is decent aswell especialy video www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePfy25sS0Yo&feature=player_embedded
And at the min gaming on the ox isnt awesome YET just see the genral section thread created already
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What about GTA for starters? Id say anything thats abit better than the norm and your screwed :/

Right. I'm going to go into the 3 store to play with a galaxy note, along side my One X and compare them in real life usage tomorrow.
Real life usage, not stats on paper, not benchmarks, just what feels best. C'mon HTC don't fail me after 4 years of brand dedication.
Report back tomorrow peeps.
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Let me know how that goes. If my One X replacement still has issues I might swap for a Note too.

I've used both nexus and note. Of the two the note is far better. After a day, the size is no issue. Plus the screen looks great, battery from what I've seen is good, but there is noticeable scrolling lag when compared to the one x.
That being said, the slight lag is not bad enough to deter someone. My dad loves his note
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Galaxy note or Gnexus..

x5starguerillaa said:
Right. I'm going to go into the 3 store to play with a galaxy note, along side my One X and compare them in real life usage tomorrow.
Real life usage, not stats on paper, not benchmarks, just what feels best. C'mon HTC don't fail me after 4 years of brand dedication.
Report back tomorrow peeps.
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Isn't the Note still running Gingerbread. So performance might not be as smooth as iCS.
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Going to get an HTC One X, some questions

Hello, a guy proposed me to swap my iPhone 4S for a HTC One X.
I think the One X is a really good phone, but i wanted to know impressions by someone who has got it.
Mainly, i have two questions:
- I really like the retina display, but it seems that One X's DPI value is also very high. Is the screen quality similiar?
- I've read something about custom ROMs and root. I'm used to custom ROMs, but i don't want to loose my warranty, so probably i wont' flash any of them for a while.
What about root? There isn't any way to get a rooted stock system keeping warranty?
I got a Galaxy S2 and a Note, it seems like Samsung made things easy about warranty, but i suppose the locked bootloader makes things harder.

Cero92 said:
Hello, a guy proposed me to swap my iPhone 4S for a HTC One X.
I think the One X is a really good phone, but i wanted to know impressions by someone who has got it.
Mainly, i have two questions:
- I really like the retina display, but it seems that One X's DPI value is also very high. Is the screen quality similiar?
- I've read something about custom ROMs and root. I'm used to custom ROMs, but i don't want to loose my warranty, so probably i wont' flash any of them for a while.
What about root? There isn't any way to get a rooted stock system keeping warranty?
I got a Galaxy S2 and a Note, it seems like Samsung made things easy about warranty, but i suppose the locked bootloader makes things harder.
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Hay mate!
The screen is, for me, the best thing about this phone, I can't even look at another phone now lol. The dpi just falls short of the iPhone, only by a few per inch, nothing that your eyes are really not to notice, I think any thing over 300dpi gets called retina. As for root, there is currently no way of rooting without unlocking the bootloader, witch will void your warranty. Lots of people trying, so who knows! Give it a few months I'm sure it will happen . Oh, if you do get one, make sure the handset is NOT made in China, seems to be more problems are found with them, odd I know... but its a great phone, and well worth a buy
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Rageypeep said:
Hay mate!
The screen is, for me, the best thing about this phone, I can't even look at another phone now lol. The dpi just falls short of the iPhone, only by a few per inch, nothing that your eyes are really not to notice, I think any thing over 300dpi gets called retina. As for root, there is currently no way of rooting without unlocking the bootloader, witch will void your warranty. Lots of people trying, so who knows! Give it a few months I'm sure it will happen . Oh, if you do get one, make sure the handset is NOT made in China, seems to be more problems are found with them, odd I know... but its a great phone, and well worth a buy
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Ok thanks a lot, i'm still not sure about value: iPhone 4S, in a few months, will have an higher value so i'll be able to get an One X + some money
If not made in China, where's made? Taiwan (like first HTCs)? :O

I'd put the One X's screen as the best, no doubt.
You have to take into account the One X's pixel density falls not far short of the 4S even though the screen is 1.2inches larger

Cero92 said:
Ok thanks a lot, i'm still not sure about value: iPhone 4S, in a few months, will have an higher value so i'll be able to get an One X + some money
If not made in China, where's made? Taiwan (like first HTCs)? :O
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I think it was Taiwan, not 100%. The iPhone 4s only has about 10-20 dpi more, you eye can't see that level of detail, also the phone is sooooooo small
Also the raw power of the hox blows the iPhone out of the water, the second reason to get this phone. The 3rd the price, why pay so much more for a iPhone, is the extra 10-20 dpi worth the mega contract fees? Not really, in my books any way.
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Cero92 said:
Ok thanks a lot, i'm still not sure about value: iPhone 4S, in a few months, will have an higher value so i'll be able to get an One X + some money
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IMO I'm not sure if iphone 4s will have higher resell value than One X since the new iphone will be out then.
The screen on the One X is one of the best on the market, I don't think you will notice any quality differences. The One X have lower dpi, but it is a larger screen with higher resolution, so web browsing, watch HD video and typing are much more enjoyable on the One X.

Rageypeep said:
I think it was Taiwan, not 100%. The iPhone 4s only has about 10-20 dpi more, you eye can't see that level of detail, also the phone is sooooooo small
Also the raw power of the hox blows the iPhone out of the water, the second reason to get this phone. The 3rd the price, why pay so much more for a iPhone, is the extra 10-20 dpi worth the mega contract fees? Not really, in my books any way.
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I don't have a contract
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IMO I'm not sure if iphone 4s will have higher resell value than One X since the new iphone will be out then.
The screen on the One X is one of the best on the market, I don't think you will notice any quality differences. The One X have lower dpi, but it is a larger screen with higher resolution, so web browsing, watch HD video and typing are much more enjoyable on the One X.
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Yes, but i can see that the iPhone 4's value is still higher than Galaxy S2's or Note's for example, even if 4S is out and S3 isn't yet.
Maybe here, in Italy, people are crazy about iPhones.

Ok, great, he said me that it's made in Taiwan.
He doesn't have a cover, i'll be buying one, but is it solid, scratch resistent?
I mean, can i use it without a cover and without ruining that the firts day?

Cero92 said:
I don't have a contract
Yes, but i can see that the iPhone 4's value is still higher than Galaxy S2's or Note's for example, even if 4S is out and S3 isn't yet.
Maybe here, in Italy, people are crazy about iPhones.
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Galaxy S2 and Note are last year's phones, the One X is released this year and apart from the SIII, i don't see any Android phone will topping it this year.
Iphone 4S is selling £200 off the retail price on ebay, this will only goes down when iphone 5 comes out in 4 to 5 months time. So if you are going to sell both iphone 4s and One X in 5 months time, they both probability sell for around £300 on ebay in the UK.
P.S. the body of the phone is very tough, but the camera lens is exposed and the front scree/glass is flash. I''ve used the phone for 3 weeks naked without any issues, but I was super careful. A cheap case from ebay can protect both the camera lens and front screen by adding few mm lip on both side.
I'm now using a screen protector for both the screen and camera together with a tpu/hard plastic case.

Cero92 said:
Ok, great, he said me that it's made in Taiwan.
He doesn't have a cover, i'll be buying one, but is it solid, scratch resistent?
I mean, can i use it without a cover and without ruining that the firts day?
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You can get covers for it, however its pritty solid in its construction, I don't use a cover and I have no marks on my phone even after dropping it from off a table
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Ok, so i think i'm going to get it today

[Q] Should I buy the HOX or wait for HOX+

Hi guys,
I am in dilema between keeping the HOX International or waiting for the HOX+ that is coming up shortly. I really like the form factor and the design of the One X series. I abandoned my "religion" in iOS just to convert to Android for my sake.
As we all know that the HOX+ is slightly better than the HOX S720e (more battery and CPU is a bit faster). However, if they both run on JB, do the new changes make any different?
I also hesitate to deal with the defective hardwares of the original HOX. I have checked it carefully, but I am not sure if other issues will come later. I am using it on Straight Talk and love the service. I haven't experienced any slow down during the peak time in Minnesota.
Please help me to weight my decision. Thank you

I really don't think there is going to be a lot of difference between them in real world usage.
Might be worth waiting for the +, and then buying the 'standard' one as the price is bound to take a dive.

Depends if you want a white phone as the One X+ only comes in black (booo!!). There isn't a lot of difference but the increase in battery might be worth a go...

If i were you i would definitely go for HOX+, but it aint worth the price difference.(approx 200$ without packages)
Im actually thinking of exchanging my HOX for HOX+ (dont tell anyone)

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If i were you i would definitely go for HOX+, but it aint worth the price difference.(approx 200$ without packages)
Im actually thinking of exchanging my HOX for HOX+ (dont tell anyone)
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I have ordered X+, is new, is Super Quick, is JB and maybe all teething cured.

X+ would definitely be the better phone, if only for the bigger battery and better front camera. But I doubt that developers will buy yet another iterative phone to develop on.

I would wait only if you need LTE and the band is right for your network.

Kinda surprised the One X+ isn't LTE but as there is the One XL I'm not surprised

Hey guys, I am intrested in purchasing the HOX depending on how good the updates for the One X are.
*I wanted to know what is the camera like with the 4.1 update or even better still jelly bean
*Also has the video recording frame rate been improved over the rather dull 24fps.
*Finally the battery life how does it fair now with the updates
I was considering the HOX+ but I am concerned about the audio not being as good as or as loud as the orginal HOX for some reason and also I really like the White HOX but things that do appeal to me in the HOX+ are the 64gb memory considering the HOX has 26gb user availble and on my S3 my 32gb card has more than that, plus the built in storage aswell.
Also the fact the battery is bigger on the HOX+ and it uses a slightly newer version of the processor.
Despite this the price of the HOX is tempting as it is £380 on amazon or expansys while the HOX+ is £474 at Clove

wait for the HOX+ . much faster ang more battery.

If I was buying a new phone now, I would probably choose the One X+. But you have to remember that the original One X is likely to get cheaper when the One X+ is released. And to be honest, the real world difference between the One X and the One X+ is really minimal. Maybe the biggest advantage over the original One X is the LTE support but this is only relevant, if you live in the US or parts of Europe where LTE is supported. The processor is just slightly faster and the battery is a bit bigger so they won't give you a significant difference. I would go as far as to say that it would be completely pointless upgrade if you already have the original One X.

Thank you all for your inputs. I admit that I love the white color of the HOX. The "so-so" battery life is not a big problem to me because I have developed a habit to charge the phone whenever I have available access to it.

So saying that, I would like to know how the camera performs on 4.1 update or even jelly bean update
has the video recording been boosted from 24fps and
battery life how good has it got since update I think these will lead me to my decision of which one to purchase tbh.

EddyOS said:
Kinda surprised the One X+ isn't LTE but as there is the One XL I'm not surprised
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I reread the press release and checked wikipedia and yeah, they've done it again; made the models confusing by having LTE and not LTE but with the same name. Maybe. Or whatever.
Oh well, given that LTE is gonna be on different frequencies everywhere, looks like 4G is going to be a bit of a fail for roaming. Probably a good thing considering what they charge for roaming data

I think LTE is the only cheeseburger for ATT subscribers. For those who use Straight Talk, it may not be an option. Correct me if I am wrong

It is funny that a seller already lists HOX+ on sale on eBay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200827411296?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
The price is a bit unattractive

I would wait for the One X+... the significant difference on the larger battery, and the improved front camera really fix the issues I've had with the One X.. regardless of having my One X rooted with custom rom & kernel. You just can't hack a battery to make it larger. =P Plus I've found that though the front camera is 'good enough' for video chat & photos IF there is enough light.. it really does need to be upped - which they did for the One X+. Everything else is the same, but it is nice to have LTE with the Tegra 3 chip - as long as your network provider has good coverage.

They are about the same just tweaked abit but i would wait just for the 64 gb of memory iv nealy filled my hox with just games and theres more coming out and dont wont to delete anything
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A new phone?

hey Guys here at HTC..im just from the other door here from the galaxy phone
Been using and modding s1 and s2 for long...but i was Always an ericsson user before that, and im kinda in love with the new xperia display and everything else...
So over to the s2, i want to replace also being tired with galaxy,so far i was checking the reviews and found the ONE-X..
So what are your thoughts...should I go for the htc one x,x+ or S or the acro S?
or any other thoughts?

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hey Guys here at HTC..im just from the other door here from the galaxy phone
Been using and modding s1 and s2 for long...but i was Always an ericsson user before that, and im kinda in love with the new xperia display and everything else...
So over to the s2, i want to replace also being tired with galaxy,so far i was checking the reviews and found the ONE-X..
So what are your thoughts...should I go for the htc one x,x+ or S or the acro S?
or any other thoughts?
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I've got the One X and it's brilliant! but if I didn't I would be going for the One X+ ....I still might!

Definitely wait for the One X+. If you liked the Xperia display you'll like SLCD2 probably in my eyes the best screen so far this year. Sure blacks are not as deep as on AMOLED but everything else is top notch.
64gb on the One X+ ample space, very good camera for a phone probably behind the great of Nokia but still good.
It's a good phone and Jellybean does make it improve a lot more than it did when the HOX first came out.
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im currently using a moto defy right now, and im planning an upgrade. im hesitating between the x and the x+. 32gb is quite wnoigh for me, especially when usb otg is working, so i wouldnt miss the 64gb version. my only concern is the battery, but i was thinking that i could underclock the one x to 1.2ghz (i dont need gaming performance, and a 1.2ghz tegra3 can still handle the ui without lags), so the battery wouldnt be a big problem either, right?
i mean, i can get the x for around 415 euros, and the x+ will launch for 595 euros... its not worth the money, is it?
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I Have One X a week before One X+ was introduced, little bit dissapointed, but it's One X it's still the superphone, so i just had a little disappointed no problemo. But if you had not bought it, i think waiting & buy One X+ would be nice..
One X+ has larger battery capacity, maybe due to it's increase in procie specification, but HTC said it has longer battery so it must be right

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I Have One X a week before One X+ was introduced, little bit dissapointed, but it's One X it's still the superphone, so i just had a little disappointed no problemo. But if you had not bought it, i think waiting & buy One X+ would be nice..
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Me also, I was a bit disappointed when I had already had bought the phone, was reading and watching reviews comparing it to the S3 and the Samsung always winning, battery life being the biggest problem.
BUT I got the phone already with the 4.0.4 ICS and the Sense 4.1 upgrade. It makes it a totally different phone from what it was when it was first released. I think it's lightning fast and the battery lasts me more than a day, easily. There aren't many reviews comparing it to the S3 with this upgrade but the ones that exist show that they are very close matched nowadays.
I guess it depends on the kind of use you give your phone. I don't play games so I don't eat tones of battery life that way. 32GB of storage are more than enough for me as I don't use it to listen to music and I can upload photos and videos from the phone and then delete them, so I don't need the 64GB of the OneX+.
So, in my opinion, the extra money that the One X+ is going to cost is not something I would find worth it. Essentially I would be paying for a bigger battery when I feel mine is just fine, extra storage that I don't really need and the novelty factor that I don't care about. Coming to the One X from a Galaxy S, the extra money would make me consider the S3 that already has a huge battery (and the possibility of a back up) and virtually infinite storage space because you do get to use external SD cards. Honestly, now that I own the HOX, I don't regret one bit not having bought the S3. The HTC feels much better, the screen is amazing and the Sense software might be less intuitive than Samsung's but it's a lot more down to earth and direct.
Oh, and you'll probably be getting a few good deals on the HOX when the One X+ is released, as that is going to be the flagship and the latest thing.

i must egree with you, but reading the forums around here i see that quite many people have problems with the wifi adapter in the hox, and thats fixed in the hox+. i dont wanna end up bringing my phone back for repair every week or two, and i certainly dont want to disassemble it (at first ). how common are these wifi issues?
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Get the One X if you use it moderatley, I mean, I use my phone all the time, and I NEVER go a day where the battery dies, its always still green when I get into bed and put it on charge. You said you don't need gaming graphics etc, so I guess you don't play much games.
THE ONE X WOULD DEFFO BE THE BEST FOR YOU, AND IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY

oh well i need all of them
I need a good music phone, good graphic for some vdos and a few games may be, good battery too and internet...
So many great posts you guys made and i felt homely and friendly
anything more? :good:

angry_machine said:
oh well i need all of them
I need a good music phone, good graphic for some vdos and a few games may be, good battery too and internet...
So many great posts you guys made and i felt homely and friendly
anything more? :good:
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I suggest you wait a little longer and buy hox+!
Bigger battery, faster (1.7ghz) and bigger space to store your stuff..
I have hox and I love it so much!
It's clearly you're in hox thread so probably you'll get biased review
but if this is what you're looking for an answer, then get hox or wait for hox+! Jyeah... :good::good::good:

I am also really stuck with this HOX vs HOX+ i mean is a extra £100 really worth it. I mean I dont think think I will ever use 64gb memory and I am hearing the HOX battery last more than a day.
What I want to know is the camera quality better on the HOX+ does anyone know.
Also has the 24fps video recording been improved to 29fps or is that under jelly bean.
I am not really thinking the HOX+ is worth the extra £100

I don't know how many phones have the wifi problem but I'm sure they are not many. I've read this before and it seems it's only a potential problem for models that were assembled in China.
Don't think this is a particular problem with HTC though, I was just looking at O2 forum yesterday regarding future ROM releases (unfortunately I'm stuck with a branded phone). They don't have a one device/one forum thing, it's an IPhone/Android forum. I've seen multiple threads about people complaining about problems with the S3 wifi.
In my case, the wifi signal is waaaaayyyy better than my previous Galaxy S. Camera also, it's an amazing piece of hardware. And I mean hardware because whatever might be a limit because of software, you can probably fix with an app or kernell or whatever. The HOX is powerful enough to record videos with 29fps... the S3 does it, so why not the HOX? It's probably one of the things that will be addressed on the Sense 4+ update that will come out with JB.
All in all, and for my kind of use, the HOX is wonderful. I wouldn't pay 100 quid more for the HOX+, even with the faster processor (I wasn't aware of that). I bought it from a friend that got one free from O2 and got a good(ish) deal on it. If not, and even now, I would be thinking about HOX vs S3. I would probably end up buying the S3 and I wouldn't even know what I've missed. No regrets at all. :good:

I didnt understand the last part of your post, are you planning on buying a s3 is that what your saying.

really my only problem with HOX is that wifi problem, but if its not that common after all, ill probably stick with it. if it has a good enough battery, and no wifi problems, than its perfect. ill probably underclock it anyway a bit, to squeeze a bit more juice out of the battery
and by the way, the HOX+ is not even released yet, and we already have a 100$ difference. i think we can expect a drop in HOXs price, so that gap may even get wider. so no, its not worth the extra money. thank you guys for helping me/us out, and see you soon on these forums!

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really my only problem with HOX is that wifi problem, but if its not that common after all, ill probably stick with it. if it has a good enough battery, and no wifi problems, than its perfect. ill probably underclock it anyway a bit, to squeeze a bit more juice out of the battery
and by the way, the HOX+ is not even released yet, and we already have a 100$ difference. i think we can expect a drop in HOXs price, so that gap may even get wider. so no, its not worth the extra money. thank you guys for helping me/us out, and see you soon on these forums!
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You'll love it. It's sexy, different and well getting better with each software update
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I didnt understand the last part of your post, are you planning on buying a s3 is that what your saying.
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Sorry, grammar mistake... I meant I would most likely have bought the S3 because of older reviews and less advertising from HTC. I didn't even knew about the HOX. Also because it would be a more logical upgrade... from an S to an S3. I've only looked into the HOX because that deal came up and I've saved 100 to 150 quid regarding the S3. I'm glad I did because the slightly better things on the S3 are not so important to me as the better things on the HOX (amazing display for example, like it a lot more than the led one on the S3).
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really my only problem with HOX is that wifi problem, but if its not that common after all, ill probably stick with it. if it has a good enough battery, and no wifi problems, than its perfect. ill probably underclock it anyway a bit, to squeeze a bit more juice out of the battery
and by the way, the HOX+ is not even released yet, and we already have a 100$ difference. i think we can expect a drop in HOXs price, so that gap may even get wider. so no, its not worth the extra money. thank you guys for helping me/us out, and see you soon on these forums!
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Good lad! I think it's a wise choice and trust me, you won't need an underclocking. I don't know how bad it was when it was first released but the current 4.0.4 gets you a lot of battery. I had three hours to kill today and spent most of that time browsing the internet. Made a few calls, replied to a few emails and sms. The phone was charged last night and was always on, wifi always on and at this hour (almost 24h later) I have 59% of battery left. Might not be the best but it's amazingly good in my book!

For me the HOX is the better phone, I mean I will miss the blue LED notification light but anyway. The HOX I will be able to watch videos whislt im in a call, take pics or videos whilst im in a call. Wont have restricted messages, where after 480 characters it turns my texts into mms, i also prefer HTCs keyboard, also when sending texts to multiple people i wont be restricted to 10 people at a time which is annoying.
Others features that are important to me on the HOX are beats audio sounds better than the S3s music player both on stock player and power amp.
Low light pictures are better, the HOXs screen is better. Also I like the fact that you can take pics in videos that you are watching. Tomorrow I am ordering my white HOX from expansys fro £380 I dont feel the HOX+ is worth a extra £94.

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For me the HOX is the better phone, I mean I will miss the blue LED notification light but anyway. The HOX I will be able to watch videos whislt im in a call, take pics or videos whilst im in a call. Wont have restricted messages, where after 480 characters it turns my texts into mms, i also prefer HTCs keyboard, also when sending texts to multiple people i wont be restricted to 10 people at a time which is annoying.
Others features that are important to me on the HOX are beats audio sounds better than the S3s music player both on stock player and power amp.
Low light pictures are better, the HOXs screen is better. Also I like the fact that you can take pics in videos that you are watching. Tomorrow I am ordering my white HOX from expansys fro £380 I dont feel the HOX+ is worth a extra £94.
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But you do have a led notification with the HOX... it's not blue though, it's red or green depending on what it is notifying you for ...
The camera is VERY good on low light conditions! That's what you get with that huge lens sticking out of the back of the case... much more light coming in.
Oh, one thing I'm not pleased so far is how low the external loudspeaker is on stuff like youtube. I think it's not the hardware's fault, I'm pretty sure that videos on the internet browser play much louder. I don't get a volume tab on youtube app and I suspect that's the problem... the default volume is too low for this phone.

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But you do have a led notification with the HOX... it's not blue though, it's red or green depending on what it is notifying you for ...
The camera is VERY good on low light conditions! That's what you get with that huge lens sticking out of the back of the case... much more light coming in.
Oh, one thing I'm not pleased so far is how low the external loudspeaker is on stuff like youtube. I think it's not the hardware's fault, I'm pretty sure that videos on the internet browser play much louder. I don't get a volume tab on youtube app and I suspect that's the problem... the default volume is too low for this phone.
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for all phones, even on iphone youtube is quiet... :/
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zakoo2 said:
for all phones, even on iphone youtube is quiet... :/
sent from my cm7 defy...
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I've compared both just last weekend. The iphone 5 is much louder! Maybe there's a difference on the apps and we don't get a volume level thing on dorid's youtube? At least I can't find one and I can't remember how it was on previous versions...

[Q] Should I buy this phone?

I am considering buying a used Optimus G Pro today for $260 shipped. Are you guys happy with this phone? Or do you think I can do better for $260?

I bought one a couple days ago for 240. Price isn't all that bad and it's still a. Very good phone. I had a G2 just a month or two ago. Made some trades and ended up with a Atrix HD and that thing was slooooow. So if your upgrading from something like that do it. Or you can wait a day or two and the market will be flooded with S4s and HTC Ones (M7)
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rquinn19 said:
Or you can wait a day or two and the market will be flooded with S4s and HTC Ones (M7)
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Yeah but what are the chances you'll find one of those phones for around $250? And on Amazon nonetheless (I'm paying completely in Amazon gift cards).

You might. The s5 and m8 will be in stores tomorrow.
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I bought mine for 270 and im happy with it but im a bit of a phome whore so ill get somwthing before too ling im sure.
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You might. The s5 and m8 will be in stores tomorrow.
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Yeah but at the same time it's the same cpu and ram, with a smaller screen... frankly the G Pro looks better IMHO.

220 Is a fair price on eBay. I bought mine for 150 and paid 25 for a screen

That was a great deal optimus. I paid $250 for mine off E-bay. But in all fairness, it was also in excellent condition as apposed to the one's being sold with scratched up screens and everything else for the same price. It's an excellent phone. One hell of a powerhouse too. If you have the chance to buy one Xad go for it. You won't be disappointed.

Mine costed me 400€ last year on august f240k version
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XadRav said:
I am considering buying a used Optimus G Pro today for $260 shipped. Are you guys happy with this phone? Or do you think I can do better for $260?
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I was happy enough with the operation and design of the phone to get another one used and in good shape off of e-bay. I cant afford this weeks primo phone, so getting "last years" worked out good.
Like everything though it depends on what you want.
it is large,
it does not have an amoled screen,
it has a slightly older but longer in action version of the OS as default.
it uses slimport ,
the screen is of good brightness, which also means the battery can get sucked down quick when turned all the way up.
It does not have an FM radio like some china stuff does.
the very high resolution screen means a lot of work for the GPU aspects of the phone, when playing 3d games.
It has a thermal protection routine that kicks in when out in the hot california sun with it working hard (led backlight lowers to reduce led junction temperatures.
The GPS works good.
Most of this stuff is what i wanted, cept the screen didnt need to be that high of res.

bought it for 270USD, and very very happy with that for those reason:
1./ having the same hardware as the nexus 7 2013. I have both of them (almost the same hardware). So everything is working pretty the same on both devices.
2./ For 270 USD, nothing comes close with LG E980 performance. You have 32gb storage on board (+MicroSD), Hardware as the HTC One and Galaxy S4, 3140 mah Battery, and the IR blaster, and the awsome LED light button and an amazing screen
3./ XDA and CM supports it

This phone's only real drawback is the lack of official updates and a locked bootloader... the bootloader can still be successfully bypassed by Freegee. Other than that, it offers immense value for money as stated in previous posts. Gorgeous looks and build quality and fast...fast...fast.