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leaving sensation for SGS2. need input

ok ive never liked samsung phones before till i got to play with this beast in the tmo store the other day ,ive already orderded mine and will be getting it in a few days.ive always i guess you could call it "hating" on samsung because i thought their build quality was poor and they tried to be too much like iphone. Well that was then and this is now.The sgs2 won me over instantly when i started playing with it and i even forgot i was looking at a screen with a lower resolution than my sensation because it was so clear and bright. i cant wait to root this thing and install custom roms .ive heard that samsung phones have data issues and reception issues. that didnt seem to be a problem with the demo i got to mess with .any info will be appreciated

that was only with the vibrant, so far that i know! My new sgs2 is fine with all that

I can't wait for root either. Coming from sensation, which is a big phone, this feels humongous. I am sure using different launcher we can utilize the screen size with 5x5 . Love it so far.
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yeah it looks massive. i had an HD2 which also was a little bigger than my sensation screen .i guess i just missed a big ol' screen to look at.I played som HD videos on both phones right next to each other and i really could not tell a difference aside from the samsung looked a little brighter. The camera on my sensation was probably a little better but i had the Amaze camera on it and its pretty good, but the camera on the S2 looked great as well so no loss there.Phone was snappy as hell and for people who judge by quadrants i was getting over 3300 on the Demo ,any how thanks for the replies

Like many people I've been eyeing the SGSII since last winter. I wanted it more than the Sensation. It just took the phone too long to drop here. I used a family upgrade on the Sensation in June and fell in love with it. The Sensation ruined me for this phone. I checked out the SGSII today and the 800 x 480 screen is a no-go for me. It's a personal thing for me as I like very tiny text on the screen and it is much easier to read on my Sensation. Plus there is a ton of ROM development for the Sensation. That and I'm perversely attracted to the feel on the Sensation.
The next family upgrade might still be with Sammy though as I'll be eyeing the Prime and even more resolution.
Other than that the SGSII is a beast internally. TouchWiz is lame IMHO but ROMs should fix that problem soon enough. I do like the phone a lot and don't want to say the Sensation is better, I just like it better. I had the wife try out the SGSII to see if she wanted one, but she just aggravated me. I tried to explain to her what a beast of a phone it is, but it was lost on her non-technical mind. That and she knew if she got it, I would be f'ing with it all the time.
Alas Sammy you guys took too long (probably US carrier's fault) and released this badboy here right before you drop the Prime? The delay cost you possible HTC converts (like me) and maybe Sammy fans with the Prime so close.
Is it just me thinking that way?
Sorry if I sound negative against the SGSII, the phone rocks so that's not my intent.

I can't stand vanilla android or small text, so no.

no offense here. main reason i got rid of my sensation is the damn dust under the screen issue . i dont know if i just hit a homerun in the bad luck dept. or what but i sent the phone back 4 times and the last return they sent me had the problem worse than any that i had. It didnt bother me at first but i just couldnt see paying that much for a phone with a repetitive defect so i decided to give samsung a try

tigerz0202 said:
no offense here. main reason i got rid of my sensation is the damn dust under the screen issue . i dont know if i just hit a homerun in the bad luck dept. or what but i sent the phone back 4 times and the last return they sent me had the problem worse than any that i had. It didnt bother me at first but i just couldnt see paying that much for a phone with a repetitive defect so i decided to give samsung a try
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I've gone through about 6 of them because of the same issue. The last one I got finally doesn't have any dust but the wifi keeps dropping no matter what rom I use
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Just out of curiosity. Has there ever been reports from older samsung phones that had dust in the screen issues?
I have a plug that I use for my aux 3.5mm but if I don't have to use it, then I rather not.

I do not know why HTC phones are so sluggish, although I love sense over everything else samsung or LG has to offer. But I will have to say, S2 is def a great pick. I got mine 2 hours ago and I was playing with it at work. Managed to do this -
now obviously its not rooted or overclocked. But getting a 3800 on quadrant on a snapdragon chip is pretty cool.
Thought i'd share it with people who are trying to make a choice between amaze and s2 like I was

Jjday7 said:
Just out of curiosity. Has there ever been reports from older samsung phones that had dust in the screen issues?
I have a plug that I use for my aux 3.5mm but if I don't have to use it, then I rather not.
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very very few compared to HTC
i have old HTC phones, and yes i do have lots of dust underneath the screen.
but in my case it's probably due the fact the phone shell cracked after too many falls
reason why plastic works better in that kind of scenario, at least it doesn't crack open like the aluminum body

Also, Samsung fuses their screens to the digitizer so there is no space for dust to get trapped in. That's also the reason why their screen seem so bright
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Very good to know and hear, Thanks guys.

I cant wait to get home and get mine. i work offshore so i wont be able to mess with it until the 26th when i get home. Dont get me wrong i liked my sensation and with custom roms and over clock i achieved over 3000 on quadrants with a sense rom, but that was over clocked at 1.78ghz and honestly it just isnt safe. seems this phone has that speed and more already stock cant wait to see where development goes for it. And honestly the stock sensation Rom was crap and it seemed like they just crammed it in the phone without any testing

Yeah I had a sensation and eventually got over it. I am not a big overclocked/root/mod person but I'd hand it to samsung for making snapdragon s3 somewhat capable in front of tegra, omap and exynos.

hiko007 said:
I do not know why HTC phones are so sluggish, although I love sense over everything else
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It's their damn Sense that makes it sluggish. Such a resource hog. Funny how ROM developers working for no money make Sense run very well but HTC cannot. My Sensation with stock Sense was sorta "meh" but with optimized Sense ROMs it's amazing. Personally I prefer MiUi though.

digiholic said:
It's their damn Sense that makes it sluggish. Such a resource hog. Funny how ROM developers working for no money make Sense run very well but HTC cannot. My Sensation with stock Sense was sorta "meh" but with optimized Sense ROMs it's amazing. Personally I prefer MiUi though.
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Yeah man, so far I am very happy with my S2 I have been able to play 1080p video in the browser w/o lag/crash. And I am getting 15 Mbits down in Northern Virginia, so I am satisfied in that department aswell. I do miss the HTC Sense, but oh well.

digiholic said:
It's their damn Sense that makes it sluggish. Such a resource hog. Funny how ROM developers working for no money make Sense run very well but HTC cannot. My Sensation with stock Sense was sorta "meh" but with optimized Sense ROMs it's amazing. Personally I prefer MiUi though.
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yea i hear that for me NRGZ28 had the best roms for sensation and best looking . id love for him to come over here and start cooking for this phone once it gets going

hiko007 said:
I do not know why HTC phones are so sluggish, although I love sense over everything else samsung or LG has to offer. But I will have to say, S2 is def a great pick. I got mine 2 hours ago and I was playing with it at work. Managed to do this -
now obviously its not rooted or overclocked. But getting a 3800 on quadrant on a snapdragon chip is pretty cool.
Thought i'd share it with people who are trying to make a choice between amaze and s2 like I was
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Awesome This is excellent.............

SGS2 vs Sensation
Hey tmobile brahs!
I've had my Vibrant for a good year and a half now, and have been long waiting an awesome 4g phone. For the most part, I've simply been waiting on the SG2, but only recently found out that we had another solid option, the Sensation.
I'm currently reading up reviews on both, but i figured I might as well ask you guys, since most of you I'm assuming already have the phone, and had made the decision over the Sensation for a reason/s.
According to my friend, they're both nearly identical, except the GS2 having a slightly better screen. My only worry with the GS2 is, coming from the Vibrant, Samsung not releasing drivers and all that stuff, making GPS for example damn near impossible to perfect with the latest roms (post froyo). Never had an HTC so can't speak on them as a brand.
Thanks guys!

Own a Galaxy Note but..

I'm a click away from buying this phone.
Anyone come from the Note? The One X worth it.

I have both since last week.
Note has bigger screen, which is better for e-reading, browsing, games.
One X fits better to the hand ('cause it's smaller); is faster in some very specific tasks (like indexing a stardict DICT to Fora dictionary), but overall in normal games and browsing, it's the same as Note; handle 1080p videos better than Note.
My One X has a yellowish screen, so take this thread I created yesterday with a grain of sault, since many One X's have normal white screens.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606636

myself11 said:
I have both since last week.
Note has bigger screen, which is better for e-reading, browsing, games.
One X fits better to the hand ('cause it's smaller); is faster in some very specific tasks (like indexing a stardict DICT to Fora dictionary), but overall in normal games and browsing, it's the same as Note; handle 1080p videos better than Note.
My One X has a yellowish screen, so take this thread I created yesterday with a grain of sault, since many One X's have normal white screens.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606636
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Thanks mate, sounds like I'm sticking to my Note then. Its only the size now and again that bothers me with the Note. Very tempted to buy the One X but the GSIII is around the corner but still fancy the One X :-/

recklesslife85 said:
Thanks mate, sounds like I'm sticking to my Note then. Its only the size now and again that bothers me with the Note. Very tempted to buy the One X but the GSIII is around the corner but still fancy the One X :-/
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stick with the note mate and then just sell that and go for the galaxy s3..one x is a gorgeous phone, beautiful screen and all round one hell of a beast of a phone. but my first android phone was the s2. for me was easier to root and basically i could do anything i wanted with my eyes shut..so far with the HOX is like running a marathon...probs would get easier when there is a one click root procedure but for now to many problems and hassles with warranty if you unlock and etc..
anyways wait till the s3 comes out and then compare and go for the one you want...i know which one i would be looking at though

NoobTerminator said:
stick with the note mate and then just sell that and go for the galaxy s3..one x is a gorgeous phone, beautiful screen and all round one hell of a beast of a phone. but my first android phone was the s2. for me was easier to root and basically i could do anything i wanted with my eyes shut..so far with the HOX is like running a marathon...probs would get easier when there is a one click root procedure but for now to many problems and hassles with warranty if you unlock and etc..
anyways wait till the s3 comes out and then compare and go for the one you want...i know which one i would be looking at though
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Sound advice. Thanks guys.

recklesslife85 said:
Sound advice. Thanks guys.
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I've had the one x since release and about 2 days later my wife got a galaxy note. To be perfectly honest, in the current state of both devices (both latest available releases) I can't find anything remotely better about the one x over the note. In fact I am quite embarrased to show my device to my wife after the build up I gave to her about it.
The only possible reason that I can think of for you to chose the one x right now is if all your trowsers have small pockets.

bobsie41 said:
I've had the one x since release and about 2 days later my wife got a galaxy note. To be perfectly honest, in the current state of both devices (both latest available releases) I can't find anything remotely better about the one x over the note. In fact I am quite embarrased to show my device to my wife after the build up I gave to her about it.
The only possible reason that I can think of for you to chose the one x right now is if all your trowsers have small pockets.
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Sell up and get the Note lol

Had the note which I was very happy with and now own the one x. I do prefer the one x over the note even with the issues because it suits my needs better. Also I hate tw and plastic feel to note. Personally if i were you i would wait for gs3 and then make a decision.
So I

recklesslife85 said:
Sell up and get the Note lol
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I'll swap with you!!
Second thoughts....I can't admit that my wife has a better device than me. I'll just have to pretend for the time being and hope things improve.

As others have said, stick with the Note and wait to see what the SGS3 has to offer, or for HTC to iron out all the software/build issues the One X has right now.

Yeah will stick to the Note. I'm running Stunner rom anyways so its near enough stock android. I'll check the Galaxy S3 and see if that's worth jumping ship.
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Gave my note to my son but am contemplating switching with him. Great device but the battery life simply is pathetic. Hopefully an update will solve the battery life issue but if it doesn't am going back to the note with the bigger screen and decent battery life.
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Get the HOX best phone I've had, no problems at all, had several android phones and tablets and this just obliterated all of them.
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Stick with the Note
recklesslife,
Stick with the Note and wait for the SGIII. Your a Samsung user and use to the TW. Further, its in the heads of the general public that Android's best phone is from Samsung (SGII). Therefore, the anticipation for the SGIII to best all smartphones including the IPhone is given. Even though HTC fans won't like it. The marketing Samsung has put into the SG line is great all over the world. HTC needs a more complete package in terms of marketing and reliability of their phones.

Most of you say keep the Note. So I guess that's what I'll do. Was tempted to buy the One X. Can't knock the note really so don't know why I want to get a different phone. One X does look nice..
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I owned a Note but as of about 5 mins ago I don't have it anymore but I would say go with the One X. I find the One X is far superior to the Note in every area except for pure screen size. For me I would rather have a better screen than a bigger screen. Oh and touchwiz isn't as heavy as sense nor as buggy as sense 4.0

Hate Touchwiz and hate phones with an overly plasticy finish. Why I ended up switching from a GSII to a Sensation.
I you plan to root though, doesn't really make much difference what phone you go for.

I was considering the G-Note also. I wanted something with a larger screen coming from a SGS2. My first choice was actually the Eluga Power. It has a much more modern processor, runs ICS out of the box, and has a smaller form factor than the G-Note. Unfortunately (for me), it only supports EU HSPA bands. But at the end of the day the G-Note really is older tech and just a gigantic SGS2 with S-Pen.
Here's a dimensions comparison:
Samsung Galaxy Note - 146.9x83x9.7mm, 178g
Panasonic Eluga Power - 136x70x9.6mm, 133g
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/1328692/samsung_galaxy_note_vs_panasonic_eluga_power.html
No offence to G-Note fans, but they look ridiculous when you hold them to your ear and you can't constantly wear a BT headset to avoid having to use it that way. I also have a 3G tablet so decided that 4.7ish" (HOX, GN, SGS3) was just more practical. Also, Samsung's release of ICS for the SGS2 has been a cluster so I can't imagine the G-Note's being any better.
Just some food for thought…

BarryH_GEG said:
I was considering the G-Note also. I wanted something with a larger screen coming from a SGS2. My first choice was actually the Eluga Power. It has a much more modern processor, runs ICS out of the box, and has a smaller form factor than the G-Note. Unfortunately (for me), it only supports EU HSPA bands. But at the end of the day the G-Note really is older tech and just a gigantic SGS2 with S-Pen.
Here's a dimensions comparison:
Samsung Galaxy Note - 146.9x83x9.7mm, 178g
Panasonic Eluga Power - 136x70x9.6mm, 133g
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/comparisons/1328692/samsung_galaxy_note_vs_panasonic_eluga_power.html
No offence to G-Note fans, but they look ridiculous when you hold them to your ear and you can't constantly wear a BT headset to avoid having to use it that way. I also have a 3G tablet so decided that 4.7ish" (HOX, GN, SGS3) was just more practical. Also, Samsung's release of ICS for the SGS2 has been a cluster so I can't imagine the G-Note's being any better.
Just some food for thought…
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Note was launched on Oct. Obviously it will be outdated in terms of specs. Were you expecting otherwise?
GN is even more outdated. HOX can't even better iP4s in terms of GPU (forget about new iPad). We have no clue SGS3 -- is it called SGS3 or something else??
Which company have been any better in terms of ICS update? How many HTC/Moto/SE phones have been updated? Most people here don't prefer OEM skins anyway. So if someone is going to root and ROM, why bother about OEM release? You are not going to use it anyway. I can understand for the general mass, but for most people in the XDA, I don't think it's a valid argument.
I would say stick to what you think is best for you. No point in forcing my views and preferences. I have seen people happier with their dumb phones compared to other guys with expensive smart phones.

You need to tell us what experiences you want from a mobile before we can advise one way or the other. I have both so can give you a realistic idea about how each stack up in the areas of importance for your use.
I'm going to be writing a review for the One X for the Telecom Tech blog, and will compare it a lot to the Note, which I already reviewed at my site here (the most comprehensive review on the internet at 17,000 words, well worth reading and a good backdrop to the incoming One X review).

Gnex to One X back to Gnex

Honestly, it's good to be back. The One X is a fine piece of hardware. Love the camera software, love the screen. Hate the placement of the power button, but that's another story.
The completely broken multitasking on the One X drove me back to my Gnex and I'm very glad to be using it again. Seriously, it's nice when the phone just works the way it's supposed to.
Too bad HTC didn't do a little better quality control before releasing the One X, unless they intended multitasking to work that way, which is even worse.
Anyway, I was never unhappy with my Gnex and now that I have seen that the grass is not greener on the One X side, I will be sticking with it.

Oh the button placement...when will HTC learn? Also, harware buttons....EW
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Welcome back OP
I heard that HTC heavily restricted the multitasking on the One X. Is that the problem why you come back?
I've only had a chance of playing around with the One X in store demo cases. I do agree with you on the screen though. It's gorgeous.
If someone could run vanilla ICS on the One X then it would be godsend.

I just ordered the nexus. Looks like I did the right choice. =)

Welcome back OP I was in the fence to get this or the Evo LTE but I like so much more AOSP that I prefer this over better screen or camera
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Yeah always hated power button on top, especially on these large phones, really hard for one handed operation.
And in the ICS age should be software buttons nit hardware anymore.
Only other phone that interests me besides the Nexus, is the Nexus-Four, but that beast is 6 months away.
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Nice to have you back on the WINNING team lol.
I've heard the one series is pretty disappointing. I played with the One S at T-Mobile the other day and I was disgusted... comparing it to my old sensation i dont see where the improvement is...
The screen sucks. Sense 4 sucks. Coolest thing about it was the recent apps window and we have that now through AOKP. Long story short I'm glad I got the gnex over any of the One series phones. I can't even believe I was considering the One X at one point... damn quad core
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So many ppl jumped on the one x bandwagon. I played with it and don't know what the hype is all about. Other than the attractive poly carbonate shell, nothing about it was that much better than the gnex.
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I think the only thing I'd ever abandon my Gnex for would be a Galaxy S III

Welcome back comrade
The only thing I really hate about my Nexus is the damn location of the headphone jack!
Why did they decide to put it at the bottom?!! it makes sense on the ipod but NOT a massive 4.6" screen phone!

I played with one the other day and it still had that sense lag and lack of smooth functioning. That's why I bailed on HTC. It's a shame since the hardware and screen are great.
What's the limitation of multitasking? How's it different from the gnex?
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Matt08642 said:
I think the only thing I'd ever abandon my Gnex for would be a Galaxy S III
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That was my thought, too, but after seeing more reports that the US version won't have the Exynos processor, I don't think its as appealing to me, anymore.

Matt08642 said:
I think the only thing I'd ever abandon my Gnex for would be a Galaxy S III
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No way would I do that...
But then again, I pre-ordered a Nokia 808, so anything's possible.
If I like Symbian (all over again) I'll keep the 808. If not, and I can deal with the microSIM adapter, I'll use both my GNEX and 808.
Interesting times we live in...but it's very hard to beat the GNEX for sure.

snubs said:
That was my thought, too, but after seeing more reports that the US version won't have the Exynos processor, I don't think its as appealing to me, anymore.
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I would never change my Gnexus for a SIII. Only chance is for the next Nexus. Pure AOSP is always awesome.

Sackboy11 said:
Welcome back OP
I heard that HTC heavily restricted the multitasking on the One X. Is that the problem why you come back?
I've only had a chance of playing around with the One X in store demo cases. I do agree with you on the screen though. It's gorgeous.
If someone could run vanilla ICS on the One X then it would be godsend.
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Restricted is not the word. It's completely broken. Like it kills everything you have running in the background, even streaming music. And it does not even save the states of the apps like iOS does. In its current state, it's completely unusable.

I also went through this cycle.. Despite the HTC ONE X having an amazing screen and good battery life, i still found my GN to be much better.. Non-hardware buttons FTW!
It was my first HTC, and i've got to say, I really do not like the UI. Don't mean to hate, just not for me. Also found that the UI kept re-drawing for some reason.. I used Apex Launcher and even removed all the widgets from HTC stock Sense Launcher and it kept re-drawing which was annoying.. Never happened to me on any other phones..
Ended up selling my ONE X.. and super happy with my GN still

So what was wrong with the multitasking? I haven't used one, but it seems to me that something with that much power under the hood should be better at multitasking than the GNex. Did it lag? Did it close apps so you had to start over when you jump back to them?

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So what was wrong with the multitasking? I haven't used one, but it seems to me that something with that much power under the hood should be better at multitasking than the GNex. Did it lag? Did it close apps so you had to start over when you jump back to them?
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It refreshes every time you reenter the app or Web Page, very annoying, sold my vzw gnex for this but now I'm considering ordering a gnex off Google play and returning my hox don't get me wrong the screen and camera are phenomenal but there are bugs which I'm sure will probably be addressed in the future ota.
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I never consider One S because:
1. non-removable battery
2. $600 no contract
3. less developer support
4. only quad HSPA

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I never consider One S because:
1. non-removable battery
2. $600 no contract
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Need help to decide: Galaxy Note or HTC One X

Hi guys,
I really need your help to decide on whether or not I should trade my Galaxy Note for the HTC One X. I currently have the international version of the Note but since last week I have been hating it for the following reasons:
1) I installed ICS update on it and it's really garbage. The Touchwiz skin really makes ICS update not apparent at all.
2) Buggy official ROM. As you might be aware, there is a currently superbrick bug on the Galaxy Note even for official ROM. The phone will be bricked permanently after a wipe in CWM. The one to be blamed for this is of course Samsung.
Because of these bad supports, I am kinda leaning toward trading in my Notes for the One X. However, I heard some bad points about the One X too such as bad battery life, bad multitasking (especially since last update) and being too hot and got throttled down.
Can you guys share your opinions on this ? I tried the One X out at the store and I quite like the feels of holding the One X. Just try to look for some advice before I decide.
Thanks and cheers for your help,

Well I traded my note for a one x and I'm so glad I did while I was impressed by the note the one x is such a beautiful phone
Yes the battery life isn't as great but what phone these days has a battery that will last forever lol
Nevertheless HTC are bringing updates out quite frequently so I expect this phone to improve in areas that people are complaining about I haven't had any problems so can't comment
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HTC One X why pay $200 extra for basically the same thing that next year will be out of date anyways. Plus the One X rocks! Use the search their are plenty of comparisons.
I have both Galaxy Note and One X I love the One X display compared to the note it really is an amazing looking screen the apps and widgets just sit on top like their floating on water and phones all around design is killer. Everyone that has saw it has been amazed. I can't see paying an extra $200 for the GS3, I just don't see much of a difference yeah the GS3 will probably beat the One X in benchmarks but not by that much that you are really going to be able to tell during everyday use.
The one X has handled everything I've thrown at it so far. and by the time it wont be able to run an app or game it will be time to upgrade anyways.
Its personal preference pay $200 more for the s3 or buy the One X and be happy with a phone that is amazing. 32GB with 25GB dropbox is enough for me I remember trying to fill 16GBs and it was hard and if I need to I can move things back and forth from my computer with a simple USB cord.

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HTC One X why pay $200 extra for basically the same thing that next year will be out of date anyways. Plus the One X rocks! Use the search their are plenty of comparisons.
I have both Galaxy Note and One X I love the One X display compared to the note it really is an amazing looking screen the apps and widgets just sit on top like their floating on water and phones all around design is killer. Everyone that has saw it has been amazed. I can't see paying an extra $200 for the GS3, I just don't see much of a difference yeah the GS3 will probably beat the One X in benchmarks but not by that much that you are really going to be able to tell during everyday use.
The one X has handled everything I've thrown at it so far. and by the time it wont be able to run an app or game it will be time to upgrade anyways.
Its personal preference pay $200 more for the s3 or buy the One X and be happy with a phone that is amazing. 32GB with 25GB dropbox is enough for me I remember trying to fill 16GBs and it was hard and if I need to I can move things back and forth from my computer with a simple USB cord.
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LOL, I was asking about the Note ha ha but thanks anyway. I currently have the Note and wondering if I should go HTC One X next. I am sick of how irresponsible Samsung are. The Note will be my last Samsung phone.

Hello
I too came from a note for a one x.
The beauty of the one x is far superior, over the years HTC have worked hard on presentation among other things, samsungs stock, im an oversized iphone look hasnt changed in years.
When it comes too stability browsing, the Note beats the HTC into submission im afraid, but this is because it runs a solid and stable GB os, far superior to the crappy versions of ics we run on the htc, and before anyone jumps in screaming ICS rocks, wake up, if you think ICS is bug free and the finished article then youre clearly not seeing the facts. GB is more stable, but there again, its been around a lot longer, i expect ics will be just as good when it is the polished article.
The note was way too clumsy as a phone, one of the reasons i gave up on it, the one x is much nicer in every design way possible, plus the one x has superior power over the note, and i wouldnt worry about battery, i get a day from my one x, thats no different to what my note gave me.
The main reason i left the note was because the custom development side of the note forum on here became a massive issue for me, too many releases were responsible for bricking peoples Notes beyond repair, it became unsafe to flash custom software from over there, not that im blaming anyone, great group of lads, but the minute that happened i lost all faith.
The development just became a Miui thread in the end practically, it was time to move on, ive had a htc before and i know on here, some of the developers and cooks have a very very good reputation, one of the reasons i chose HTC because i know when these lads finally get to grips with the s-on problem there will be no end to the development, and the note hasnt even had official ics yet, what a joke, i think with android 5.0 around the corner, the future of htc and one x is safe on this forum, youll get updates a lot faster than on samsung.
Horses for courses my friend, it is your choice, but i agree with toonarmy, HTC ONE X, bring it on, it can only get better from here on.

Read my post on the guys thread who was asking GSIII or One X Rom support

Thanks for your informative post. That's true though. I have the Galaxy S, S2 and now the Note and I feel they are pretty much the same. The Touchwiz skin turns out to be worse than I initially thought. To make it worse, they cover ICS native skin with this fugly skin and make it so fugly beyond repairs.
To top it off, because of the superbrick bug, I am so scared to flash any official ROM and to even update my device to official ICS ROM. This really killed the whole purpose of getting an Android phone, which is to do whatever you like with it.
Beside, I did some wipes when I was in ICS and according to the guys in the Galaxy Note forum, my eMMC might have been damaged. I really don't want to deal with all the warranty repair hassle so it might be the right time for me to get rid of my Note.

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Thanks for your informative post. That's true though. I have the Galaxy S, S2 and now the Note and I feel they are pretty much the same. The Touchwiz skin turns out to be worse than I initially thought. To make it worse, they cover ICS native skin with this fugly skin and make it so fugly beyond repairs.
To top it off, because of the superbrick bug, I am so scared to flash any official ROM and to even update my device to official ICS ROM. This really killed the whole purpose of getting an Android phone, which is to do whatever you like with it.
Beside, I did some wipes when I was in ICS and according to the guys in the Galaxy Note forum, my eMMC might have been damaged. I really don't want to deal with all the warranty repair hassle so it might be the right time for me to get rid of my Note.
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One thing i hate about Samsung, touchwiz 3 at sgs1 and they didn't update it to touchwiz 4, unlike dhd which one got updated from 2.0 to 3.6 and possibly even to 4.0. Samsung sucks at updates.
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I was thinking about buying one X too but reading this forum indicates so many problem with quality built. I just sit out for now because if I buy iy, it will be from Ebay or Amazon (live in US) and very difficult with warranty and stuff.

Take the One X and you won`t be sorry. I had the Note and i didn`t use the whole pen utility`s (notes and drawings). I just loved the big screen and the powerfull cpu. But the amount of pixels slowed it down quite heavily in performance.
The One X seems snappier and more direct imo.

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LOL, I was asking about the Note ha ha but thanks anyway. I currently have the Note and wondering if I should go HTC One X next. I am sick of how irresponsible Samsung are. The Note will be my last Samsung phone.
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My bad I'm so used to post saying should i get SG3 or One X, man that drives me crazy.... They both are good in their own rights. But anyways once again my bad just a little jumpy with all the SG3 or One X post I see. People need to search and their are already hundreds.................X10 SG3 or One X post.
I should have added some useful info since I own both. Here is how I see it the Note is a good PDA IMO. Its just doesn't have the feel of a phone to me, its not really good to carry around for everyday use. Its nice size screen for certain things I use mine like a tablet basically. I just needed something I could carry in my pocket and the note just didn't really fit right, I don't really like touch-wiz it feels like you are still on gingerbread, the way its designed. The display kills it when trying to watch a video it shows artifacts in the blacks, like really old .AVI videos. Thats just my personal opinion.

I think, htc one x. Sound is good, lighter and more compact than note.
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My friend has the note, and I did a quick comparison with my one X.
The one X is super smooth scrolling between homescreens etc, wheras there is a noticeable lag on the note, in nearly everything.
The screen is good on the note, but the one X is so much better, in both colour reproduction and of course pixel density
And the one X is really nice to hold and use on an everyday basis, whereas the note is unwieldy and too shiny, so really slippery in hand
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For me it's simples, build and feel quality. Samsung consistently produce sub-par products in the quality of materials department........and that's being kind.
HTC have always produced premium feeling hardware and the HOX is no exception.

Note or One X
Had my HTC one X for a week now and very happy with it. Previously had a Galaxy S and wasn't impressed with the Touch Wiz interface so that put me off the Note as did the size ,thought 5.3 inch was a little OTT.
Very happy with it so far. The stock Rom runs very smooth even with the Vodafone clutter installed. If it carries on as it is now i wont even look at custom ROM as there will be no point.
Only downer is the battery but as pointed out by someone earlier that's the deal with a smartphone . I charge once a day and although i would like it to last longer i can cope. Think those of us who have had a few smartfones now accept we have to manage the battery ourselves so if im at work and not using it i turn to 2g, brightness down and turn off auto sync and i can get from 9-6 with 91% left then i can go mad with all the bells and whistles on when im out and about with worry. Seems like a hassle altering the settings for different situations but it only takes 20 seconds in reality with a few well places shortcuts.
Love the feel as well, very hard to let slip in the hand unless some more plastic y phones.

Now I think HTC one x quality is perfect rather than the first batch of phones.. I got the first batch also with flaws but HTC swapped it with a perfect one.. ht24 serial rather than ht23.. by the way, I held the note side by side to my one x and the camera and screen of the one x is much superior than the note IMHO.. the guys posted before is right same old style, feel and interface with galaxy series nothing new just the size rather than sense UI..
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I could add that HTC One X has a super nice GPS - takes about 4s to get signal in buildings - that's just ridicules

I traded my Note for this bad boy. Well worth it my friend
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I have both and I like both.
I prefer One X cause it's more portable and has clearly a better screen. GNote has the advantage (while One X doesn't get S-OFF) of allowing to install custom roms without voiding warranty and of the bigger screen, which really makes a difference for e-reading.

I have both and I have ended up using the One X more. There are things that I really love about the note, but the updates and ICS on it are a let down. I for one really like sense and have since win mo days. To each his own

Should I get a one x ?

Hey guys ..... Just wanna take your advice about the one x ,since I want to get one...but want it to be as I want ....
1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
3.are games fast ?
Thanks in advance

donhashem.dh said:
Hey guys ..... Just wanna take your advice about the one x ,since I want to get one...but want it to be as I want ....
1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
3.are games fast ?
Thanks in advance
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1- you've never seen something faster than this
2- it depends on the usage
3-yes, it is good to play
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donhashem.dh said:
1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
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In stock ICS, yes. Apparently it's better (gone??) in JB, but I haven't got my update yet, so can't comment.
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
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Average. The standby (or sleeping) power consumption is really good, and things like browsing the Web and listening to music are pretty good too, but CPU intensive tasks can really drain the battery. I fairly easily get a whole day out of it with moderate to heavy usage.
3.are games fast ?
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My HOX is still pretty new, but yes, I think so. It's handled everything well so far.
Thanks in advance
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No problem.
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If your budget is big enough, I might advice you to look for the improved version of the phone, One X+ that is. It comes with JB, a faster processor and bigger storage (64GB). If budget is limited then get the One X. You can take a look at the Nexus 4 too and see if you like it or not, it depends on what you need.
Not trying to keep you from the One X or anything, its a great phone and its been working fine for me for the past 7 months and can definitely last more than 2 years. I'm just telling you to check the market for all the options so you are 100% confident with your decision.
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donhashem.dh said:
Hey guys ..... Just wanna take your advice about the one x ,since I want to get one...but want it to be as I want ....
1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
3.are games fast ?
Thanks in advance
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1. I found that on stock ICS, the One X did lag sometimes when multiple apps were open. If you are willing to flash a custom ROM, or when the stock Jelly Bean update is installed, it should have no lag because of project butter. I am on the CyanogenMod 10 ROM and it is lightning fast, and I have never noticed any lag at all.
2. The battery depends on the usage of the phone. I have found that after a usual day of usage, I have about 25-35% battery left, and this includes using power-hungry games.
3. Yes, the games are insanely fast, due to the Tegra 3 processor. Nvidia have a really strong background in gaming (due to all of their PC GPU's), and this really shows when playing any game.
Hope this helps

Defo get one root it and get ARHD on it , smooth as with zero lag

IMO, if you can afford it, go for the One X+ instead of the One X. That bigger battery is really something to consider however, I see no big difference apart from that (better GPU and higher CPU/GPU clocks are no big deal IMO). If you can't afford it or if you find the extras on the One X+ no big deal, get the One X w/o a moment's hesitation

Why is anybody still looking at a device with the locked down misery the is HTC bootloader when a Nexus 4 is better in just about every way and costs less?

Azurael said:
Why is anybody still looking at a device with the locked down misery the is HTC bootloader when a Nexus 4 is better in just about every way and costs less?
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Because the Nexus 4 has a much cheaper build quality, has glass on both sides which makes it more prone to smashing (Gorilla Glass 2 isn't unbreakable) and HTC Sense is really good for consumers that will keep the phone as it is (Sense does have a lot of great features), not to mention the worst fact that there are no capacitive buttons on the Nexus 4, which means that screen real estate is taken up by the on-screen buttons. Also, in my opinion, the device looks ugly, especially on the back with that awful looking camera and the weird sparkly effect.
Still, I do think that the wireless charging is really cool, and I can see why people buy the nexus devices to get stock android immediately. I also realise that it feels cheaper because it is cheaper.
I just think that the negatives of the Nexus 4, and the positives of the One X make the One X a much better phone, and if you want an unlocked bootloader, if you go to htcdev.com, they could not have made it simpler to do.

I just got my HTC One X last week.
I got it because I was really tired of the lag of my HTC Sensation XE (1.5 GHz Dual Core with 780+ MB of RAM).
I loaded all my previous apps on the One X (so I would have a fair comparison), I can tell you there is a HUGE difference in speed. It was really much more than I hoped for. The One X is very much faster and task switching is immediate.
Opening/browsing/closing the Google Play was a real pain on the Sensation XE, but on the One X it's really smooth and satisfying.
For the battery, it's about the same of my Sensation XE. But considering the One X has a bigger screen and a quad core, I was happy with the battery life (I was expecting a shorter battery life). I have the data on all day long (3G only, HSDA network) with many apps syncing and moderate usage (including watching youtube), I can survive a full day easily (7 AM - 12 midnight).
For games, I don't play games so I can't tell.
Hope this helps.
Edit: Forgot to mention that I'm still on ICS, as Jelly Bean is not out yet for my region. My old Sensation XE was on ICS too.
Also, my HTC One X is all stock, no roots or custom ROM. So if you want more speed (although I don't see why) you can put a stock JB ROM and other users say it will get smoother.
After more days spent with my new phone, still can say that I am in love with my One X.

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Because the Nexus 4 has a much cheaper build quality, has glass on both sides which makes it more prone to smashing (Gorilla Glass 2 isn't unbreakable) and HTC Sense is really good for consumers that will keep the phone as it is (Sense does have a lot of great features), not to mention the worst fact that there are no capacitive buttons on the Nexus 4, which means that screen real estate is taken up by the on-screen buttons. Also, in my opinion, the device looks ugly, especially on the back with that awful looking camera and the weird sparkly effect.
Still, I do think that the wireless charging is really cool, and I can see why people buy the nexus devices to get stock android immediately. I also realise that it feels cheaper because it is cheaper.
I just think that the negatives of the Nexus 4, and the positives of the One X make the One X a much better phone, and if you want an unlocked bootloader, if you go to htcdev.com, they could not have made it simpler to do.
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I think you have some good points, however I have both right next to me at the moment. I wouldn't say that either has better build quality. They're very different design philosophies. If you like the feel of the iphone 4s then the nexus will be better but if you like the lumia polycarbonate style then the one x for sure. For me I prefer the nexus simply because it makes it feel more like a grown ups phone as opposed to a toy so much.
Otherwise it's pretty night and day in terms of usability. The nexus 4 is a lot quicker and smoother and cooler. The one x does win on screen and camera though.
OP if you don't like lag this is a no brainer, the nexus is much better.
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Havoc2510 said:
Because the Nexus 4 has a much cheaper build quality, has glass on both sides which makes it more prone to smashing (Gorilla Glass 2 isn't unbreakable) and HTC Sense is really good for consumers that will keep the phone as it is (Sense does have a lot of great features), not to mention the worst fact that there are no capacitive buttons on the Nexus 4, which means that screen real estate is taken up by the on-screen buttons. Also, in my opinion, the device looks ugly, especially on the back with that awful looking camera and the weird sparkly effect.
Still, I do think that the wireless charging is really cool, and I can see why people buy the nexus devices to get stock android immediately. I also realise that it feels cheaper because it is cheaper.
I just think that the negatives of the Nexus 4, and the positives of the One X make the One X a much better phone, and if you want an unlocked bootloader, if you go to htcdev.com, they could not have made it simpler to do.
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Haha, just make sure you don't get an operator branded phone or be unlucky enough to get one with an uncommon CID, yes. But you've still got a device manufacturer telling YOU what YOU can do with the device YOU own. Which sucks.
If the HOX is so much better than the Nexus 4, then you'll have to show me the fields of people waiting to swap my immaculate HOX for one. I suspect they don't exist though.
Yes, different things appeal to different people, and the industrial design of the HOX is nice, but I suspect from what I've read the N4 could not really be considered to have 'inferior build quality'. I don't even like the idea of a dual-faced glass device, but I'd still have one to get that device at that price. Either way, given that the N4 should be just over half the price, there's simply no competition.

HTC One X or Nexus 7?
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Haha, just make sure you don't get an operator branded phone or be unlucky enough to get one with an uncommon CID, yes. But you've still got a device manufacturer telling YOU what YOU can do with the device YOU own. Which sucks.
If the HOX is so much better than the Nexus 4, then you'll have to show me the fields of people waiting to swap my immaculate HOX for one. I suspect they don't exist though.
Yes, different things appeal to different people, and the industrial design of the HOX is nice, but I suspect from what I've read the N4 could not really be considered to have 'inferior build quality'. I don't even like the idea of a dual-faced glass device, but I'd still have one to get that device at that price. Either way, given that the N4 should be just over half the price, there's simply no competition.
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Fair play, but if you read what you said again, you said:
'If the HOX is so much better than the Nexus 4, then you'll have to show me the fields of people waiting to swap my immaculate HOX for one. I suspect they don't exist though'
That just practically means that no-one is swapping a One X for a Nexus 4. Well done :laugh:
And in response to 'letom', I do like the Nexus 4, and the price together with the fresh OS is why a lot of people would choose to buy one. I'm just saying that if I had no phone again and I had to buy one, I would still probably get the One X. I just like the premium feel and the screens on HTC phones are unbeatable (I also really like the camera). And yes, running Sense and with all the apps that HTC forces upon you (like 7Digital), it is more laggy than the Nexus 4. All you have to do is root it and install CM10, and they both have zero lag.
And I think we can all agree, Android > iOS anyday
Actually no, if I had no phone, I would wait for the HTC M7 (rumoured to launch Q1 2013). The Droid DNA is just the warm-up phone in the build up to the M7. Although, it is still all rumours at the moment so we probably won't see or hear about it until MWC 2013.

The problem is I bet you the new HTC still won't be as smooth as the nexus 4. I have jelly Bean on my one x right now, and yes it's smooth but it's not up there with how smooth the nexus is. Look at the reviews of the DNA they're saying it's still bogged down by sense. You should only be getting a HTC phone is you like sense, and live by it.
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No, just don't haha