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One of the main things I noticed on the other builds is that they wouldn't play flash videos from full websites well at all. It would play them in slow motion. It seems as though, however, that they fixed that issue with fb27..... sort of. We can now watch the flash videos, but no browser can open them in full screen without crashing.
If you guys can, please try a few out and lemme know your findings. This would be a good bug to inform people about so everyone know what to look out for in the next builds.
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Odd, but flash videos on full websites has worked for me since FB17 (I use Dolphin HD browser)...though you're right, the full screen bug has also been present since then -_-
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One of the main things I noticed on the other builds is that they wouldn't play flash videos from full websites well at all. It would play them in slow motion. It seems as though, however, that they fixed that issue with fb27..... sort of. We can now watch the flash videos, but no browser can open them in full screen without crashing.
If you guys can, please try a few out and lemme know your findings. This would be a good bug to inform people about so everyone know what to look out for in the next builds.
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I have a fix for this but it is for the Galaxy S port of ICS. It's because the ICS browser is not "fully" HTML5 enabled. It can only deal with mobile optimised versions of flash sites. You need to flash the full Adobe flash drivers and module. If you send me your current build.prop details I will make you a flashable zip that will enable all flash sites to play in both mobile AND desktop modes
also Samsung are a long way off with a fix gathering by the look of their latest framework.jar file. It still doesn't have all of the classes for HTML5
Why anybody would EVER use flash for anything ever is beyond me
I just redesigned a furchtbar site that used flash objects and other junk and via asp.net (unfortunately the server was IIS ) and thanks to CSS3 and HTML 5 flash is a thing of the past.
An HTML 5 video player with flash fallback is a good choice. For everything else PHP,JavaScript,html , flex, etc no need for flash.
Its 2012 the best way to design a site is with the latest technologies of PHP HTML 5 , etc. Fall backs for older browsers is not that much extra work.
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Damn, you guys are wayyy beyond me. I never thought of flash and html5 of being inter-related that way. I always assumed that flash and html5 were like Pepsi and Coke (similar but made by different companies to establish a competition and offer a variety).
And i never thought of flash as something of that past. How it html5 more superior than flash?
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I only hear iPhone fanboys talk like that because iPhones don't have flash. So nobody should use it.
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Damn, you guys are wayyy beyond me. I never thought of flash and html5 of being inter-related that way. I always assumed that flash and html5 were like Pepsi and Coke (similar but made by different companies to establish a competition and offer a variety).
And i never thought of flash as something of that past. How it html5 more superior than flash?
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Well, for one thing it's a standard supported directly by the browser, while Flash is a proprietary add-on made by Adobe. HTML5 has the potential to be faster and more secure, plus standard across any devices that support HTML5 standards. It IS considered the future and is definitely the direction everyone's shifting. Even Adobe's shifting focus to HTML5 tools over Flash ones.
Flash finally works in fb27 for me. I also notice that when the browser is done rendering it wontt show the whole webpagee until I start scrolling down.
One of the big differences is the modem, it's great. Where I currently am I've never gotten more than 1mb, tested this morning and got this!
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I am new GNex user, had been using stock 4.0.4 and now I am on latest AOKP. I have installed many browsers and tested the latest Flash plugin from Market. Tested with Opera, Stock browser and Dolphin HD. No matter what website,/brower when I get a page with a flash video, the video works fine, it plays nice. When I switch the video to full screen the problem is I can't seek in video. So if I'm watching a tv episode and have to do something else, when I come back I can't resume from the point I left it as I can't seek to the time I want. This is very annoying considering that on my previous Galaxy S1 flash worked fine in any browser. Any fix for this ? How is it working on your side ?
Flash is just very very poorly implemented on mobile platforms unfortunately. Its very hit or miss for me. Most of the time I come across Flash content, I just wait until I'm at a computer to watch...
Yeah I have the same problems too freeze or always seeking in full screen!
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A world without Flash is a better place—boycott any site that requires it.
flash is dead, long live the future.
This thing with flash is dead is a ****ty remark. It's not dead... just look around the web... just look around all sites that provide video. How many are flash based ? When will they be converted ? Flash will be here of at least a couple of years. I boght a Android phone because I wanted flash support for a desktop-ish browsing experience. Looking on the browser on my BB Playbook, the ICS browser is miles behind. Both in terms of speed and not to mention flash support, flawasly on Playbook, crap crap crap on Android.
It's curious that Adobe said they will not support flash anymore... but then in December they released an update which made it compatible... now I see the last update was in March... I really hope they will make a working version for at least GNex as it's the ICS reference device.
flash has had it's day.... open standards are the way forward.
Adobe have realised the way forward is HTML5 and is concentrating it's efforts on that field moving forward.
A lot of sites that provide video already have HTML5 alternatives...
I work in web design and development and the general movement by clients is to make a responsive design that works across all platform, flash is normally excluded and replaced with open platforms such as HTML5, JS and CSS3
Most of the time I zoom in to the point where I can easily seek, then I go full screen.
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alinescoo said:
This thing with flash is dead is a ****ty remark. It's not dead... just look around the web... just look around all sites that provide video. How many are flash based ? When will they be converted ? Flash will be here of at least a couple of years. I boght a Android phone because I wanted flash support for a desktop-ish browsing experience. Looking on the browser on my BB Playbook, the ICS browser is miles behind. Both in terms of speed and not to mention flash support, flawasly on Playbook, crap crap crap on Android.
It's curious that Adobe said they will not support flash anymore... but then in December they released an update which made it compatible... now I see the last update was in March... I really hope they will make a working version for at least GNex as it's the ICS reference device.
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It IS dead for mobile platforms. Fact.
Adobe said they will update flash to ICS and provide security updates, but no newer versions or improvements.
Well, I can't really say that Adobe did the update of flash to ICS... with very little tweaking they could have done it right... as it is now, I preffer to uninstall it and consider myself running a WP7 or iOS device in terms of browsing experience.
Thanks you all for confirming it wasn't an issue only on my phone.
Flash is dieing. HTML5 is the future.
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You guys don't even need to hit my thanks button because this helps no one.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406507,00.asp
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Old knews but still very unfortunate Flash works quite well on Android and html5 still isn't ready for the big time and there is a lot of flash still out there on the web
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Old knews but still very unfortunate Flash works quite well on Android and html5 still isn't ready for the big time and there is a lot of flash still out there on the web
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I don't understand when companies do stuff like this. I try to keep my company in as much as possible. I even endorse upcoming projects and products just for advertisement.
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pretty stupid... but I'm sure, there will be another app, that will run flash things..
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pretty stupid... but I'm sure, there will be another app, that will run flash things..
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On linux there where a few alternatives but they just sucked....slow, buggy, missing many flash features etc...
When you upgrade to JB from ICS if you had flash installed you still had it. Or you could sideload the app.
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When you upgrade to JB from ICS if you had flash installed you still had it. Or you could sideload the app.
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probably yes but I have seen flash break many times even after minor android point releases, so by 4.1.2 it could be even, reduced to iPhone level
Its not the worst thing ever. I never have had a need for flash on my iPhone (obviously) or my android devices.
It's very old news, there's no flash in Chrome for android. This is actually very good news imo. Web developers, myself included, spent years creating crazy hacks to make things work in ie6. About 4 years ago a small group realized that as long as that happened there was no incentive for ie6 users to upgrade. Slowly it became more common to display a warning to ie6 users only using...
<!--[if lte ie6]-->
This has resulted in a huge reduction in use of ie6.
Flash is as dead as ie6 but as long as browsers keep supporting it people will keep using it. Advancement in web development technology has always been hampered by the idea that we must keep supporting old technologies.
Adobe are leading the way in html5 authoring tools and feel the alternative already exists, I agree.
HTML5 is absolutely ready for primetime. The W3C's definition that it isn't has to be seen in context, it's not fully defined so officially it is not ready, real world usage is effective though as most elements are defined and it adequately replaces flash and xhtml. So far, all browsers with no flash support are pretty good with HTML5 so its simple enough to code fall backs both ways so some see flash and some see html5 depending on capability. I recently created a video gallery for a client that does this, as a result the video player falls forward (as it were) to HTML5 when the browser is capable, thus videos can be viewed on iDevices and Android.
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You guys don't even need to hit my thanks button because this helps no one.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406507,00.asp
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Like has been said, old news, but still pretty damn awesome! *dances anti-flash dance*
Hope flash can now finally go and die.
somehow i agree with adobe dropping flash. flash doesnt run well on mobile phones, and it's laggy even if it does run.
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somehow i agree with adobe dropping flash. flash doesnt run well on mobile phones, and it's laggy even if it does run.
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But html5 is even laggier, try for yourself on your desktop with youtube videos. You can enable html5 or flash in the "try something new"(or something like that, mine is in dutch( menu all the way at the bottom of the main page
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But html5 is even laggier, try for yourself on your desktop with youtube videos. You can enable html5 or flash in the "try something new"(or something like that, mine is in dutch( menu all the way at the bottom of the main page
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Not true, as a programming language html5 is way more efficient than flash (or actionscript). But just because it is a good language doesn't mean you can't write bad code in it.
Also, I for one have not had any issues with the implementation at YouTube.
Html5 working great on my pc on youtube.
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Html5 working great on my pc on youtube.
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That's cause youtube converted over to HTML5 but so many other sites didnt
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How can we run gingerbread on the galaxy note 2
We can't there are no drivers or kernel to make it work.
I like to break stuff!
Ewwww. Gingerbread...it ran like crap.
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Ewwww. Gingerbread...it ran like crap.
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El29 on the S2 epic touch was a great iteration if GB. Prob the most solid OTA i've used. It wasn't all bad
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El29 on the S2 epic touch was a great iteration if GB. Prob the most solid OTA i've used. It wasn't all bad
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Calks ROM all the way. I still play with that on my wifes phone once in a while.
I am working on a Symbian port.
I just had a flash back reading this :what:
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
-Galaxy Note II Edition
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I just had a flash back reading this :what:
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
-Galaxy Note II Edition
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Drugs will do that to you.....
What's wrong with the beans of jelly?
and what exactly can you do with GB that you cant with JB?
websites becoming restricted
w7excursion said:
What's wrong with the beans of jelly?
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The newer updates as of late December some websites have become mainly flash is like the browser refuses to accept the site no matter what browser you use. I've used macks 3.6, and jelly bombed
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The newer updates as of late December some websites have become mainly flash is like the browser refuses to accept the site no matter what browser you use. I've used macks 3.6, and jelly bombed
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I use flash just fine all you have to do is sideload it and use a 3rd party browser and flash works just like it did on ICS and websites didn't suddenly decide to use flash most sites are actually migrating to html5 and have the option to choose the flash version or html5 version of the site. Be glad you don't have an iFail they've never had flash and you can't even sideload it to get it working:thumbdown:
I like to break stuff!
Flash works just fine on stock browser. For most sites I visit anyway. Pm me for the flashplayer.apk I use.
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I like to watch alot of anime and when I updated the rom I found out I couldnt get into sites like Novamov, bc with them i can play the anime on mxplayer instead of using a web based player. I went back to 3.5 and it works perfectly fine, does morphology have anything to do with messing with the browser and I do have flash installed the issue happens on the stock browser as well
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And what I mean about the websites is the page doesnt load its as if my internet cuts out but then I goto a different site and it works perfectly fine.
Maybe when key lime pie releases it will fix apps2sd for our phone.
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One annoyance that ics caused is the inability to play my notification AND music at the same time, without pausing my music and taking temporary focus.
I have to turn my notification sounds off because of this and it annoys me.
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sounds more like a flash player issue than an Android one. You can side load Flash Player as at least one person has stated; one even offered to send APK.
The problem, flash player hasn't really been updated for ICS and beyond. It will work. In my experience, how well it works on sites is very dependent how that particular site encoded their flash content. I've had where video plays fine until I go full screen, the picture disappears but I have audio. And Adobe is no longer giving any support for the mobile flash player; maybe if there is some critical security issue to fix it.
What you can try to do is trying using different browsers that can use Flash Player such as Boat or Dolphin. I use Boat for flash sites. I only go to limited sites for those needs. I couldn't get Dolphin to open, but on the Evo 4G is was most flash friendly (gave the least problem in regards to flash player). There are a couple others browsers. Too bad Google didn't want do it for Chrome since I like how it works on the desktop version.
I'm not familiar with any of the aninme sites. There may be altermatives to use. You could trying use Plex and book marking the videos you want to see on the desktop. Then later you can load the Plex Android app to watch it; works well unless there are commercials and they use a different feed; it doesn't switch back to the main video. You could see if the sites lets you downlaod the video and play through a media such a Google Play, BS Player, Mobo Player and so on.
As for Gingerbread, you're going to need custom rom that someone will probably need to make from the ground up since no variant was released with it. Then there are the carrier specifics for drivers and radios. It's a lot of work that I don't think many users would be interested in using, which can have a major influence on developers taking the challenge. People want the upcoming Android, not stuff from two years ago.
Hmm Ok Thanks
m4xwellmurd3r said:
One annoyance that ics caused is the inability to play my notification AND music at the same time, without pausing my music and taking temporary focus.
I have to turn my notification sounds off because of this and it annoys me
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I dont have this issue anymore. used to on stock but not on macks rom 4.0...now the music volume temporarily fades when the notification comes in but continues to play and resumes normally
Edit: I take this back. Also have the same issue still. Thought the issue was gone until I tried listening thru headphones...very annoying. Phone won't even ring through a headset?!
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I like to watch alot of anime and when I updated the rom I found out I couldnt get into sites like Novamov, bc with them i can play the anime on mxplayer instead of using a web based player. I went back to 3.5 and it works perfectly fine, does morphology have anything to do with messing with the browser and I do have flash installed the issue happens on the stock browser as well
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And what I mean about the websites is the page doesnt load its as if my internet cuts out but then I goto a different site and it works perfectly fine.
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I've noticed an issue on stock TW (LK8) where flash sites cause it to fail loading and then crashes the browser. Restarting the browser get the page to load.
But keep in mind that's not the direction that the internet standard is going. Flash as a video tool is being phased out as HTML5 standards now support most of the content that Flash used to - without Adobe having to absorb costs of development and support for Flash Players across the spectrum. Some sites will take longer than others to make the transition... but there are always other sites out there.
And for general info - whether it's TV, Anime, etc. - I recommend downloading a (legal) copy over streaming whenever possible. Sure it takes a little longer to plan and get the files... but then you get a better quality viewing experience and no lag - no matter how many times you watch it!
Looking and searching for days on this topic. Could not find word on anybody working on it.
It is pretty heavy handed for Google to issue an update that reduces to functionality to their device. I use Adobe flash may be 5% of the time on my phone, but still, if I don't use it at all, I will just use an iPhone. No point in letting Google make money from my searches.
It's not Google job to keep Adobe Flash Player updated.
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It's not Google job to keep Adobe Flash Player updated.
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Adobe flash player doesn't have to be updated. Out dated versions work fine on Android 4.3. But compatibility is completely gone on Kitkat.
Yes, because Adobe is no longer updating it.
This is what Dolphin says on the developer's website (https://dolphinbrowser.desk.com/cus...id-4-4-how-do-i-enable-flash-player-?b_id=317) --
The Adobe Flash Player is no longer compatible with Android 4.4 Kitkat devices. Some critical APIs have been removed from Android 4.4 Kitkat that all browser cannot activate the flash player. We are working on to provide better video playing experience.
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This is what Dolphin says on the developer's website (https://dolphinbrowser.desk.com/cus...id-4-4-how-do-i-enable-flash-player-?b_id=317) --
The Adobe Flash Player is no longer compatible with Android 4.4 Kitkat devices. Some critical APIs have been removed from Android 4.4 Kitkat that all browser cannot activate the flash player. We are working on to provide better video playing experience.
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Right, but is anyone working on this at the rom level?
which APIs and why are they removed?
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which APIs and why are they removed?
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Website rendering is no longer done by AOSP(which renders flash). Now it's done by chromium (which doesn't render flash)
Lolento said:
Adobe flash player doesn't have to be updated. Out dated versions work fine on Android 4.3. But compatibility is completely gone on Kitkat.
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As someone else already said, it's not Google's job to keep Adobe's app updated.
You're basically relying on old technology that should have been gone for a long time already. If you think about it that way, ask yourself, why doesn't Windows rely on MS-DOS anymore (it was there in older versions, so why isn't it there now)?
And I don't see how switching to iPhone would help in any way, you can't sideload apps or have Flash at all actually. Do you really want to go from a 7" screen to a 4" one? And wouldn't you use Google on iOS too?
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As someone else already said, it's not Google's job to keep Adobe's app updated.
You're basically relying on old technology that should have been gone for a long time already. If you think about it that way, ask yourself, why doesn't Windows rely on MS-DOS anymore (it was there in older versions, so why isn't it there now)?
And I don't see how switching to iPhone would help in any way, you can't sideload apps or have Flash at all actually. Do you really want to go from a 7" screen to a 4" one? And wouldn't you use Google on iOS too?
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Your argument is exactly why I will not longer consider Android as my next whatever device. Even when MS no longer base windows on DOS, the underlying DOS commamds are still supported.
Google is pretty heavy handed in trying force users to move away from flash. There are better tech available, I agree, but there asre still tons of websites using flash exclusively. These websites are completely essentially to the people who use it.
I also want to ask, aside from flash, objectively, what makes Android better iOS. Nothing, imo.
I believe App vs App, the quality of Apps on iOS is better than Android, even the Google one. I dont really sideload anything aside from flash, which i use to access sports websites.
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Your argument is exactly why I will not longer consider Android as my next whatever device. Even when MS no longer base windows on DOS, the underlying DOS commamds are still supported.
Google is pretty heavy handed in trying force users to move away from flash. There are better tech available, I agree, but there asre still tons of websites using flash exclusively. These websites are completely essentially to the people who use it.
I also want to ask, aside from flash, objectively, what makes Android better iOS. Nothing, imo.
I believe App vs App, the quality of Apps on iOS is better than Android, even the Google one. I dont really sideload anything aside from flash, which i use to access sports websites.
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Android gives you customization where as iPhone pretty much tells you how your layout is going to be. A lot more freedom on Android, that is the biggest difference for me. You're definitely on the wrong forums to start an iOS vs Android debate though.
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Even when MS no longer base windows on DOS, the underlying DOS commamds are still supported.
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Last time I checked the 16-bit subsystem was no longer there in 64-bit Windows.
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Google is pretty heavy handed in trying force users to move away from flash.
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I don't understand why you keep blaming Google and not Apple, who ceased development on Flash for mobile devices 2 YEARS AGO
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Your argument is exactly why I will not longer consider Android as my next whatever device. Even when MS no longer base windows on DOS, the underlying DOS commamds are still supported.
Google is pretty heavy handed in trying force users to move away from flash. There are better tech available, I agree, but there asre still tons of websites using flash exclusively. These websites are completely essentially to the people who use it.
I also want to ask, aside from flash, objectively, what makes Android better iOS. Nothing, imo.
I believe App vs App, the quality of Apps on iOS is better than Android, even the Google one. I dont really sideload anything aside from flash, which i use to access sports websites.
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So your willing to go pick up a new over priced device which gives you next to no freedom on it for customization, for a old, out dated, inefficient system of flash? Even though that device also has no flash support ? Glad we settled that.
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Joppykid said:
Android gives you customization where as iPhone pretty much tells you how your layout is going to be. A lot more freedom on Android, that is the biggest difference for me. You're definitely on the wrong forums to start an iOS vs Android debate though.
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This is not even an iOS or Android debate, I can pick up a Windows device, who knows.
Google removing flash support is the last straw for me. And I am surprised that no else see it as getting escalatingly worse.
Here are a few things that Google did this year.
1. Gmail exchange active sync support removed
2. Youtube comment ties to Google+
3. Google dropping voice support for third party apps
4. And now removal of the killer app, adobe flash, that brought me over from iOS in the first place
Also, i have been using android for the past three years. The level of customization on Android is more of a toy box than anything else. With the removal of adobe flash support, the core functionality is identical and i would even give Windows Phone an edge over both iOS and Android.
Lastly, btw, this thread is about whether any dev is working to bring adobe flash back to 4.4. I didnt start this debate.
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This is not even an iOS or Android debate, I can pick up a Windows device, who knows.
Google removing flash support is the last straw for me. And I am surprised that no else see it as getting escalatingly worse.
Here are a few things that Google did this year.
1. Gmail exchange active sync support removed
2. Youtube comment ties to Google+
3. Google dropping voice support for third party apps
4. And now removal of the killer app, adobe flash, that brought me over from iOS in the first place
Also, i have been using android for the past three years. The level of customization on Android is more of a toy box than anything else. With the removal of adobe flash support, the core functionality is identical and i would even give Windows Phone an edge over both iOS and Android.
Lastly, btw, this thread is about whether any dev is working to bring adobe flash back to 4.4. I didnt start this debate.
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Couldn't agree more... If only iOS have a 5" phone, I'd have jump ship.
The customization advantage is getting lesser by the day...
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This is not even an iOS or Android debate, I can pick up a Windows device, who knows.
Google removing flash support is the last straw for me. And I am surprised that no else see it as getting escalatingly worse.
Here are a few things that Google did this year.
1. Gmail exchange active sync support removed
2. Youtube comment ties to Google+
3. Google dropping voice support for third party apps
4. And now removal of the killer app, adobe flash, that brought me over from iOS in the first place
Also, i have been using android for the past three years. The level of customization on Android is more of a toy box than anything else. With the removal of adobe flash support, the core functionality is identical and i would even give Windows Phone an edge over both iOS and Android.
Lastly, btw, this thread is about whether any dev is working to bring adobe flash back to 4.4. I didnt start this debate.
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How is comparing pros and cons of two competing operating systems not a debate?
You asked "what makes android better than iOS, nothing IMO" I told you what I liked about Android over iOS. And you only mentioned iOS and Android in all of your posts, nothing about windows.
I understand that flash is a big deal for a lot of people. I am unaware of any devs working on it. Sounds like it may be tough with Google removing the framework needed for flash. I doubt many devs want to put time in to developing something that is starting to get phased out. Good luck in your quest to find flash.
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I understand that flash is a big deal for a lot of people. I am unaware of any devs working on it. Sounds like it may be tough with Google removing the framework needed for flash. I doubt many devs want to put time in to developing something that is starting to get phased out. Good luck in your quest to find flash.
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Not just starting to get phased out. As far as Google is concerned, you aren't supposed to keep using an app that hasn't been updated for 2 years (and if the only app using the framework was pretty much abandoned a long time ago why would they have to keep supporting it?)
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Even when MS no longer base windows on DOS, the underlying DOS commamds are still supported.
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How does that compare? Want me to list the hundreds of programs that no longer work in modern Windows incarnations? How about most Creative sound cards? Is that MS' fault? I wouldn't say that, but you probably would.
Google is pretty heavy handed in trying force users to move away from flash. There are better tech available, I agree, but there asre still tons of websites using flash exclusively. These websites are completely essentially to the people who use it.
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So Adobe is moving away from Flash for mobile and you are saying it's Google's fault for not making sure every outdated app works on their newest OS version?
I also want to ask, aside from flash, objectively, what makes Android better iOS. Nothing, imo.
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"objectively" - "imo". 'Nuff said.
I believe App vs App, the quality of Apps on iOS is better than Android, even the Google one.
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And that's your right, but don't spin it as anything other than your own biased opinion. Also, I'm pretty sure those sports websites never worked on iOS devices, ever.
I think its a good move by Google, the faster website developers will realize flash is outdated the better for everyone, less users using flash content because its incompatible will force them to switch to html5, sooner or later.
Homever Adobe should stop supporting desktop version too, it would fasten up the process alot.
Again, I was not inviting a debate in my OP. But if it needs to continue, it can.
Firstly, on Windows platform, in every modern iteration, there is a compatibility mode that maintains (to a certain extent) backwards compatibility. This is how MS does business, they dont go out of nowhere to drop support for a key piece of software. My windows 7 setup is backward compatible to software back to Windows 95.
Google, on the other hand, drops third party support for anything that they have a market share strangle hold on. Mark my word on this. It started with exchange sync support for gmail, then google voice, it will not stop there.
I think everyone hopes that web devs will realize flash player is dead. This is wishful thinking. Just like I wish voice call and sms should be dead.
Fact is, there are still millions of websites that are still dependent on flash player. They are still essential to people who uses these websites. I really dont care if Google supports or not, my OP asked if anyone else is working on it.
I switched from iPhone to Android years ago because Steve Job's Apple is a bully in their vision of technology. I see google as going down the same path.
Google doesn't really make anything that blow people's mind. They make things that are cheap and are good enough. I can easily and happily switch. In fact, I already made up my mind to test out the Dell Venue 8 Pro with Win 8.1 since the holiday deals look pretty good.
Lastly, I think someone misunderstood the diff between 'objective' vs 'subjective'.