One of the main things I noticed on the other builds is that they wouldn't play flash videos from full websites well at all. It would play them in slow motion. It seems as though, however, that they fixed that issue with fb27..... sort of. We can now watch the flash videos, but no browser can open them in full screen without crashing.
If you guys can, please try a few out and lemme know your findings. This would be a good bug to inform people about so everyone know what to look out for in the next builds.
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Odd, but flash videos on full websites has worked for me since FB17 (I use Dolphin HD browser)...though you're right, the full screen bug has also been present since then -_-
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One of the main things I noticed on the other builds is that they wouldn't play flash videos from full websites well at all. It would play them in slow motion. It seems as though, however, that they fixed that issue with fb27..... sort of. We can now watch the flash videos, but no browser can open them in full screen without crashing.
If you guys can, please try a few out and lemme know your findings. This would be a good bug to inform people about so everyone know what to look out for in the next builds.
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I have a fix for this but it is for the Galaxy S port of ICS. It's because the ICS browser is not "fully" HTML5 enabled. It can only deal with mobile optimised versions of flash sites. You need to flash the full Adobe flash drivers and module. If you send me your current build.prop details I will make you a flashable zip that will enable all flash sites to play in both mobile AND desktop modes
also Samsung are a long way off with a fix gathering by the look of their latest framework.jar file. It still doesn't have all of the classes for HTML5
Why anybody would EVER use flash for anything ever is beyond me
I just redesigned a furchtbar site that used flash objects and other junk and via asp.net (unfortunately the server was IIS ) and thanks to CSS3 and HTML 5 flash is a thing of the past.
An HTML 5 video player with flash fallback is a good choice. For everything else PHP,JavaScript,html , flex, etc no need for flash.
Its 2012 the best way to design a site is with the latest technologies of PHP HTML 5 , etc. Fall backs for older browsers is not that much extra work.
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Damn, you guys are wayyy beyond me. I never thought of flash and html5 of being inter-related that way. I always assumed that flash and html5 were like Pepsi and Coke (similar but made by different companies to establish a competition and offer a variety).
And i never thought of flash as something of that past. How it html5 more superior than flash?
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I only hear iPhone fanboys talk like that because iPhones don't have flash. So nobody should use it.
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Damn, you guys are wayyy beyond me. I never thought of flash and html5 of being inter-related that way. I always assumed that flash and html5 were like Pepsi and Coke (similar but made by different companies to establish a competition and offer a variety).
And i never thought of flash as something of that past. How it html5 more superior than flash?
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Well, for one thing it's a standard supported directly by the browser, while Flash is a proprietary add-on made by Adobe. HTML5 has the potential to be faster and more secure, plus standard across any devices that support HTML5 standards. It IS considered the future and is definitely the direction everyone's shifting. Even Adobe's shifting focus to HTML5 tools over Flash ones.
Flash finally works in fb27 for me. I also notice that when the browser is done rendering it wontt show the whole webpagee until I start scrolling down.
One of the big differences is the modem, it's great. Where I currently am I've never gotten more than 1mb, tested this morning and got this!
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** EDIT for new info **:
Flash for Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich will be out before the end of 2011. There will be no Flash support for Android 5.0:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43152/flash-for-android-4-end-2011-no-flash-for-android-5
The main reason why I switched to Android was it's Flash support. Finding out recently that ICS did not support Flash and that Adobe was discontinuing Flash development was very discouraging.
Google has confirmed that Flash is not yet operational in ICS, but Google is also confirming that Adobe will support Flash in ICS.
“Flash hasn’t been released for ICS yet. So as far as we know, Adobe will support Flash for ICS.” – Google
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http://www.slashgear.com/google-con...e-cream-sandwich-for-the-time-being-19196702/
Although discouraging and disappointing at first, there is now hope.
So Flash Player doesn't even show up in the Android Market on the Galaxy Nexus but I thought that one can install the apk on the phone. It seems that this doesn't work either, according to other users who've already got theirs. e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351167
Half the bloody web uses Flash. How are we supposed to view those sites?
To be honest I'm glad there is no support at the moment and wish that it wouldn't come. I haven't missed it since upgrading to the Nexus and if anything browsing is faster!
has anyone tried side loading it
Flash is going to die in mobile platforms, and we should be pressing video stream websites to use html5, instead of crying about flash's death. Damn memory/cpu hog.
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i dont know about you guys, but for me, more then half the web uses flash. The only reason im not getting iphone because of flash. The stream i always go to, uses flash. gonna wait a month, if they dont support flash on nexus, im getting sgs2
SGS2 will eventually get ICS and will have similar "problem"
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To be honest I'm glad there is no support at the moment and wish that it wouldn't come. I haven't missed it since upgrading to the Nexus and if anything browsing is faster!
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It's no problem at all to set the flash settings to "on demand " so you have the fast browsing experience and flash if you need it.
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i her simple apps like tweecaster and facebook do not work! is this true? wtf is going on?. not having flash is a bummer. at least we should have the option. volume issues, no flash, simple apps not working.. this is getting really discouraging
Because they aren't updated for ics I would say. And because the Nexus is the only ics device at the moment they are probably to lazy to do so.
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Because they aren't updated for ics I would say. And because the Nexus is the only ics device at the moment they are probably to lazy to do so.
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yea the apps issue i expected..same happened with nex 1 and nex s.. but the no flash and volume issue are real bummers
Who gives a s$&@ about Flash? DOA.
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Who gives a s$&@ about Flash? DOA.
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you keep running the Apple party line. the rest of us would prefer to have the option for when we need it.
Adobe Flash is currently #24 in the top (free) apps for Android. and the majority of the low reviews are from idiots using 50 dollar Cricket android phones.
don't like it? don't use it. no reason to come in here and spout nonsense.
Hopefully this will shut up the people who keep going on about no Flash support on the GN. It's a brand new hardware running a brand new software; of course there are going to be compatibility issues for early adopters.
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There are allways apps that don't work with newer OS versions. Happens with iOs, too.
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Several people have reported trying to sideload the latest flash apk for Honeycomb - it didn't work.
About the apps issue, how long is it before they usually get sorted out and ready for the latest OS (right now ICS). I know that the main reason I use my phone for is Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Browsing.
I'm not guessing too long right?
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Several people have reported trying to sideload the latest flash apk for Honeycomb - it didn't work.
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has anyone tried it on ICS, honycomb is for tablets, whiles ICS is for both tablets and smartphones, hopefully it works.
Faz20 said:
About the apps issue, how long is it before they usually get sorted out and ready for the latest OS (right now ICS). I know that the main reason I use my phone for is Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Browsing.
I'm not guessing too long right?
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If those 4 things are your main concerns it shouldn't be a problem. As far as I know Twitter works fine. Official Facebook app has always been pretty ass on the Android so if you can live with it before you can probably live with it now. YouTube is natively supported and apart from not having Flash the browser is blazing fast.
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yea the apps issue i expected..same happened with nex 1 and nex s.. but the no flash and volume issue are real bummers
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Lack of flash is Adobe's fault, not Google's.
I am new GNex user, had been using stock 4.0.4 and now I am on latest AOKP. I have installed many browsers and tested the latest Flash plugin from Market. Tested with Opera, Stock browser and Dolphin HD. No matter what website,/brower when I get a page with a flash video, the video works fine, it plays nice. When I switch the video to full screen the problem is I can't seek in video. So if I'm watching a tv episode and have to do something else, when I come back I can't resume from the point I left it as I can't seek to the time I want. This is very annoying considering that on my previous Galaxy S1 flash worked fine in any browser. Any fix for this ? How is it working on your side ?
Flash is just very very poorly implemented on mobile platforms unfortunately. Its very hit or miss for me. Most of the time I come across Flash content, I just wait until I'm at a computer to watch...
Yeah I have the same problems too freeze or always seeking in full screen!
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A world without Flash is a better place—boycott any site that requires it.
flash is dead, long live the future.
This thing with flash is dead is a ****ty remark. It's not dead... just look around the web... just look around all sites that provide video. How many are flash based ? When will they be converted ? Flash will be here of at least a couple of years. I boght a Android phone because I wanted flash support for a desktop-ish browsing experience. Looking on the browser on my BB Playbook, the ICS browser is miles behind. Both in terms of speed and not to mention flash support, flawasly on Playbook, crap crap crap on Android.
It's curious that Adobe said they will not support flash anymore... but then in December they released an update which made it compatible... now I see the last update was in March... I really hope they will make a working version for at least GNex as it's the ICS reference device.
flash has had it's day.... open standards are the way forward.
Adobe have realised the way forward is HTML5 and is concentrating it's efforts on that field moving forward.
A lot of sites that provide video already have HTML5 alternatives...
I work in web design and development and the general movement by clients is to make a responsive design that works across all platform, flash is normally excluded and replaced with open platforms such as HTML5, JS and CSS3
Most of the time I zoom in to the point where I can easily seek, then I go full screen.
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This thing with flash is dead is a ****ty remark. It's not dead... just look around the web... just look around all sites that provide video. How many are flash based ? When will they be converted ? Flash will be here of at least a couple of years. I boght a Android phone because I wanted flash support for a desktop-ish browsing experience. Looking on the browser on my BB Playbook, the ICS browser is miles behind. Both in terms of speed and not to mention flash support, flawasly on Playbook, crap crap crap on Android.
It's curious that Adobe said they will not support flash anymore... but then in December they released an update which made it compatible... now I see the last update was in March... I really hope they will make a working version for at least GNex as it's the ICS reference device.
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It IS dead for mobile platforms. Fact.
Adobe said they will update flash to ICS and provide security updates, but no newer versions or improvements.
Well, I can't really say that Adobe did the update of flash to ICS... with very little tweaking they could have done it right... as it is now, I preffer to uninstall it and consider myself running a WP7 or iOS device in terms of browsing experience.
Thanks you all for confirming it wasn't an issue only on my phone.
Flash is dieing. HTML5 is the future.
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You guys don't even need to hit my thanks button because this helps no one.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406507,00.asp
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Old knews but still very unfortunate Flash works quite well on Android and html5 still isn't ready for the big time and there is a lot of flash still out there on the web
godutch said:
Old knews but still very unfortunate Flash works quite well on Android and html5 still isn't ready for the big time and there is a lot of flash still out there on the web
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I don't understand when companies do stuff like this. I try to keep my company in as much as possible. I even endorse upcoming projects and products just for advertisement.
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pretty stupid... but I'm sure, there will be another app, that will run flash things..
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pretty stupid... but I'm sure, there will be another app, that will run flash things..
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On linux there where a few alternatives but they just sucked....slow, buggy, missing many flash features etc...
When you upgrade to JB from ICS if you had flash installed you still had it. Or you could sideload the app.
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When you upgrade to JB from ICS if you had flash installed you still had it. Or you could sideload the app.
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probably yes but I have seen flash break many times even after minor android point releases, so by 4.1.2 it could be even, reduced to iPhone level
Its not the worst thing ever. I never have had a need for flash on my iPhone (obviously) or my android devices.
It's very old news, there's no flash in Chrome for android. This is actually very good news imo. Web developers, myself included, spent years creating crazy hacks to make things work in ie6. About 4 years ago a small group realized that as long as that happened there was no incentive for ie6 users to upgrade. Slowly it became more common to display a warning to ie6 users only using...
<!--[if lte ie6]-->
This has resulted in a huge reduction in use of ie6.
Flash is as dead as ie6 but as long as browsers keep supporting it people will keep using it. Advancement in web development technology has always been hampered by the idea that we must keep supporting old technologies.
Adobe are leading the way in html5 authoring tools and feel the alternative already exists, I agree.
HTML5 is absolutely ready for primetime. The W3C's definition that it isn't has to be seen in context, it's not fully defined so officially it is not ready, real world usage is effective though as most elements are defined and it adequately replaces flash and xhtml. So far, all browsers with no flash support are pretty good with HTML5 so its simple enough to code fall backs both ways so some see flash and some see html5 depending on capability. I recently created a video gallery for a client that does this, as a result the video player falls forward (as it were) to HTML5 when the browser is capable, thus videos can be viewed on iDevices and Android.
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You guys don't even need to hit my thanks button because this helps no one.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406507,00.asp
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Like has been said, old news, but still pretty damn awesome! *dances anti-flash dance*
Hope flash can now finally go and die.
somehow i agree with adobe dropping flash. flash doesnt run well on mobile phones, and it's laggy even if it does run.
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somehow i agree with adobe dropping flash. flash doesnt run well on mobile phones, and it's laggy even if it does run.
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But html5 is even laggier, try for yourself on your desktop with youtube videos. You can enable html5 or flash in the "try something new"(or something like that, mine is in dutch( menu all the way at the bottom of the main page
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But html5 is even laggier, try for yourself on your desktop with youtube videos. You can enable html5 or flash in the "try something new"(or something like that, mine is in dutch( menu all the way at the bottom of the main page
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Not true, as a programming language html5 is way more efficient than flash (or actionscript). But just because it is a good language doesn't mean you can't write bad code in it.
Also, I for one have not had any issues with the implementation at YouTube.
Html5 working great on my pc on youtube.
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Html5 working great on my pc on youtube.
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That's cause youtube converted over to HTML5 but so many other sites didnt
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So I know that flash doesn't work on JB which is just retarded and honestly sucks because I used to hold it over my iFriends all the time. Also I know there is a work around to install flash player but it seems to only work on the default browser. The point being that I use Pulse and Cracked Lite pretty often and sometimes there are articles which have videos embedded in them (usually YouTube), with the absence of flash its impossible to view them. My question is how are people getting around this issue? I'm sure I'm not the only person who uses Pulse or Cracked and I'm sure there's other apps with the same issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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So I know that flash doesn't work on JB which is just retarded and honestly sucks because I used to hold it over my iFriends all the time. Also I know there is a work around to install flash player but it seems to only work on the default browser. The point being that I use Pulse and Cracked Lite pretty often and sometimes there are articles which have videos embedded in them (usually YouTube), with the absence of flash its impossible to view them. My question is how are people getting around this issue? I'm sure I'm not the only person who uses Pulse or Cracked and I'm sure there's other apps with the same issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't really have much of a solution, but my first phone was a LG Optimus One which couldn't even run flash. So I was stoked when I got my Galaxy Nexus with Jellybean so that I could finally watch tv shows on my phone. Then I found it that it had no flash. So basically what I did was use stock browser (Since I installed flash anyways) to watch things with flash with stock browser and use Chrome/Opera/Dolphin for everything else. Eventually I got tired of doing that I just stuck with the stock browser and realised how much faster and smoother it is. Sorry that I couldn't really help you at all, but that how I get around my issue.
It is my understand ing, tar if you push the app, it will work
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Flash works fine on my Gnex using the stock Browser. Just download and install the APK file avalable here on XDA and your good to go.
honestly, it sucks. flash, i mean.
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Like I said on the title, is there a way to use flash player on 4.4?
I know where to get the flash player.apk and how to install,
but chrome and firefox beta doesn't work.
No real need for flash on mobile is the site is properly configured
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No real need for flash on mobile is the site is properly configured
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Your argument is pretty ignorant and really only applies to Google and NOT real users.
Let's say that 1% of all sites on the internet is "not configured properly" and still uses flash. Google may not make a lot of money from 1% of the internet and that's may be the reason they don't want to continue to support flash.
But that 1% of websites may still be essential for users that frequent those sites. I don't need flash often, but 100% of the websites that broadcast "live sport" uses flash; so it is essential for me to have working flash on my phone. I don't care if it is buggy or not.
Google has be very heavy handed in their new service policies this year. Killing exchange active sync for gmail made me completely switch to Outlook.com. And now THIS!!!
Unfortunately, I think Android has peaked. They are no different from iOS now and in some ways, Google apps on iOS may even be better.
So guess what, my next phone/tablet/phablet will probably not be Android based.
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No real need for flash on mobile is the site is properly configured
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I believe you miss-typed and meant to say....."if the site is properly configured"
That is all well and good in theory and such.....but in the real world it is still a long way off as millions of webpages still use flash only for audio and video streaming content.
At this point it seems that if you have 4.4 installed, using Puffin browser with server flash regurgitation is the only possible way to see or hear flash based content. And using Puffin for flash is a horrible experience especially for video with low resolution and choppy output. Some audio only streams I listen to on several sites have been fairly decent from my one day test.
So now after testing the Puffin browser to see what it's like if I allow the 4.4 update......I am glad I did not update as I use many flash based content pages/sites on a daily basis and most all of them do not revert to HTML5.
I am all for advancement into a unified video and audio content accessibility throughout webpages on various platforms....just wish it would happen more completely soon. Interesting times we are dealing with now as far as this technology goes.
Photon browswer also has server based flash and some sites that don't work on Puffin will work on Photon.
I completely agree that Android is useless without ability to stream flash one way or another.