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This is my first time owning a phone with Sense on it. I have played with other peoples phones with the older version and did not like it much.
I have to say I actually like this version!
My problem is the lag sense has. Load up a bunch of widgets like mail and such and there is annoying lag.
Its definitely not the phone itself. I have tried Apex laucher with widgets on every screen and its as smooth as butter. I like the look of Sense so much better though so Im trying to figure out if which I want to use.
I came from a nexus one which served me well for 2 years so this is a big upgrade for me.
Has HTC addressed these type of issues on other phones? Im really hoping they do as I think its kinda embarrassing that there flagship phone has this much lag because of there software. You would think they would address this asap.
Im already rooted with android revolution and it helped a little but not much. I guess I could not use a bunch of the widgets but there there to use and Im trying to get away from having a zillion app icons on my screens.
Also - in the future do most of the Roms eventually address this issue as they mature?
Thanks!
For starters use the advice on the following thread (credir to OP )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599214
Secondly, sense will always be heavier/laggier then AOSP but for sure custom sense roms will be much smoother in the future.
Patience is a virtue as this is a new device/processor and the devs need time to make it as smooth and stable as possible
I tried the above and it helped slightly but not much.
Im fully loaded with Apex now and running smooth. So smooth I can scroll as fast as possible with wigets on every screen and no lag.
Now that I have it set up to my liking Im really enjoying apex.
jfrock25 said:
I tried the above and it helped slightly but not much.
Im fully loaded with Apex now and running smooth. So smooth I can scroll as fast as possible with wigets on every screen and no lag.
Now that I have it set up to my liking Im really enjoying apex.
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Apex launcher as in Leedroid rom?
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I have been using Go Launcher EX almost as long as I've had my phone, running it on the Gingerbread ROM (stock).
I'm still using Go Launcher EX since upgrading to the stock ICS rom. I'm not happy with performance and numerous other things, but I'm troubleshooting that independently. Just wiped my Dalvik cache, and ran Fix Permissions. Could be just update bugs everyone is experiencing.
However, I'm noticing something that's made me wonder...
On GB threads going back even to my prior phone, lots of people were using Go Launcher.
On ICS threads... I haven't seen mentions of ANYONE using Go Launcher. Seems like Nova Launcher and Apex launcher are the two big ones named... which oddly seem stripped compared to Go Launcher.
What's the deal? Are there known issues running Go Launcher on ICS? Why else would there seem to be a sudden abandonment of it on ICS?
geolemon said:
I have been using Go Launcher EX almost as long as I've had my phone, running it on the Gingerbread ROM (stock).
I'm still using Go Launcher EX since upgrading to the stock ICS rom. I'm not happy with performance and numerous other things, but I'm troubleshooting that independently. Just wiped my Dalvik cache, and ran Fix Permissions. Could be just update bugs everyone is experiencing.
However, I'm noticing something that's made me wonder...
On GB threads going back even to my prior phone, lots of people were using Go Launcher.
On ICS threads... I haven't seen mentions of ANYONE using Go Launcher. Seems like Nova Launcher and Apex launcher are the two big ones named... which oddly seem stripped compared to Go Launcher.
What's the deal? Are there known issues running Go Launcher on ICS? Why else would there seem to be a sudden abandonment of it on ICS?
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No, it just seems a lot of folks enjoy something closer to the "pure" ICS experience. I couldn't be tempted...love Go Launcher. Plus we still have scrolling wallpaper...
Nova and Apex will only work on 4.0. They are designed to look like ics and have some of the same transition, effects and what not. That's what I noticed at least.
The stock theme for GO is clean but it isn't going to be confused with ICS and everyone wants the latest and greatest.
I'm personally not impressed by apex or nova because in order to experiment with themes, options, or effects, I have to start with my wallet. I would like access to some of the goodies to see what it can do, and what the themes really look like before I start squandering my lunch money.
I'm using Go launcher + , with no problems, I'm on the latest ICS update..:good:
I used it exclusively until more recently when I made what I think is an awesome setup in ss launcher.
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Go launcher seems fat and bloated compared to the other options for ICS. There were very few good GB launchers so Go was more popular.
I agree go launcher has a heavy feel to it. And it wasn't friendly to my battery at all.. I use apex and it has been more battery friendly and light... Go launcher is nice but they need to strip some stuff from it
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I'd like to recommend mihome miui home launcher 4.0
if you are on a gingerbread rom you could always use hollo launcher, just like apex, nova launcher but for gingerbread!
When i was running on ics, i tried noca and apex but ended up going back to go launcher. I love the way of its customizations and it works plenty fast for me.
So since the upgrade to jellybean I have continued to use Apex since I was used to it from ICS. However, today I started using the stock JB launcher and find it more smooth and fast than apex. I wonder if the new launcher is even faster due to the project butter enhancements.
so my question is this, Do we even need a custom launcher anymore?
assuming I dont care about the bells and whistles of gestures, grid size and whatnot. I just want a fast launcher without redraws.
need? no. It is about having options and that is one of the best things of android. You may not have a desire for it, but plenty of others use custom launchers. I personally like having more control that apex allows me.
Darunion said:
need? no. It is about having options and that is one of the best things of android. You may not have a desire for it, but plenty of others use custom launchers. I personally like having more control that apex allows me.
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i totally agree with you, there are many other things i do on android to customize. but extra launcher features is not a desire for me, but speed and fluidity is. i was just wondering what others thought about the new speed of the JB launcher, is it as good as the customs?
I aks this becuase on ICS I always found the APEX faster than stock ICS so i used it.
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i totally agree with you, there are many other things i do on android to customize. but extra launcher features is not a desire for me, but speed and fluidity is. i was just wondering what others thought about the new speed of the JB launcher, is it as good as the customs?
I aks this becuase on ICS I always found the APEX faster than stock ICS so i used it.
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why dont you try it? simple. decide for yourself.
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I would use the stock launcher if I could use custom icons.
Sent from my AOSP Android 4.1.1 Galaxy Nexus.
Use Nova, its the tits
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I would use stock, if I could hide icons, reduce amount of homescreens and "untie" the app and widget section in the app drawer
Personally I hate the Google search bar, no way to dump it without a launcher.
I also love the Homescreen in landscape, again, not an option with stock.
Holo launcher is light and smooth.
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thanks for all your inputs keep it coming. For the trolls at the top. you dont have to bash the thread. Im not asking for advice, I am happy with either stock or Apex. i was making an observation and I wanted others' opinions.
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thanks for all your inputs keep it coming. For the trolls at the top. you dont have to bash the thread. Im not asking for advice, I am happy with either stock or Apex. i was making an observation and I wanted others' opinions.
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that's great, then this thread is for discussion. then why it's on Q&A? "do we need a custom launcher?" - maybe you should have made this a poll to see which is the "best" launcher. in general.
and we're not bashing nor trolling, we're saying that these threads are all over these forums.
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Aren't Apex / Nova launches simply forks of the stock launcher with the developers added features / options? I'd be really surprised if they were all not sharing much of the exact same code.
I use them b/c I like to hide apps from the app drawer, lock my desktop, have unread counts and separate my apps into groups in the drawer and I don't think I can do that just yet with stock.
just flash the newest CNA Rom its the sheeeyat so much customization wit the launcher and everything else with great possibility to change dpi
Until the JB launcher can rotate the homescreen, yes you're going to need a new launcher. Can't believe that feature made it past google.
Hi everyone,
I really like Aopk and I have used it on my old S2. I was really exited when it came out for the S4 and I flashed it right away but I was really disappointed when I saw that the S4 features were not there. Is there a rom that is very similar to Aopk and has all the S4 features or at least has a very similar lockscreen (very important to me)? I looked at a lot of ROMs that have the S4 features but they look almost the same way as the S4 original look (stock). I wan't it to be stable because I use it for work and for school and I can't have it doing weird things on me. If there isn't a ROM like that is there any way I can take the Aopk ROM and take another ROM that has all the S4 features and some how combine them?(my only complaint to Aopk is that it doesn't have the S4 features)
Oh and by the way, I have the T-Mobile S4
Thank You
If by 'S4 features' you mean the samsung apps and TouchWiz UI then no. Those are locked into the stock rom. There are roms that remove the carrier bloat of the original rom while leaving TouchWiz and samsung apps intact, which it sounds like you have found. But I dont think its possible to add the samsung apps to something like AOKP. AOKP and AOSP are by definition open source so using the closed source Samsung software wouldnt make sense. Thats my understanding, I may be misinformed.
futbolista169 said:
Hi everyone,
I really like Aopk and I have used it on my old S2. I was really exited when it came out for the S4 and I flashed it right away but I was really disappointed when I saw that the S4 features were not there. Is there a rom that is very similar to Aopk and has all the S4 features or at least has a very similar lockscreen (very important to me)? I looked at a lot of ROMs that have the S4 features but they look almost the same way as the S4 original look (stock). I wan't it to be stable because I use it for work and for school and I can't have it doing weird things on me. If there isn't a ROM like that is there any way I can take the Aopk ROM and take another ROM that has all the S4 features and some how combine them?(my only complaint to Aopk is that it doesn't have the S4 features)
Oh and by the way, I have the T-Mobile S4
Thank You
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Yea it's not really possible. The closest thing you would get is by taking one of the Google Edition ROMs and hacking in the features yourself since they do run on the TouchWiz Framework and Kernel, it's just stripped down to Vanilla Android.
By the features I mean NFC, S Beam, Air view, Motions and gestures, and stuff like that. Can you guys explain what you said in the previous posts a little more, because I have simple knowledge about ROMs but I am not all that advanced. Is there any way I can at least completely change the lockscreen to look like Aopk's if I can't have Aopk and the features?
Thank You
futbolista169 said:
By the features I mean NFC, S Beam, Air view, Motions and gestures, and stuff like that. Can you guys explain what you said in the previous posts a little more, because I have simple knowledge about ROMs but I am not all that advanced. Is there any way I can at least completely change the lockscreen to look like Aopk's if I can't have Aopk and the features?
Thank You
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Stock ROM runs on stock everything, as well as Touchwiz Launcher.
AOKP,CM10, and AOSP Roms Run on Trebuchet, Nova or Apex Launcher.
Stock ROM has al lthese features built in, as well as proprietary files that are made just for stock Touchwiz Period. The have been signed and designed to work with TouchWiz Roms only..
Now if you want Aokp type Lockscreen, there are plenty of Mods and Themes that Can help You with that, PLENTY, Look in the THEMES & APPS SECTION of t he International Galaxy S4 section or the T-Mobile Section. Spend a little more time on XDA as well and you'll find the answer to your question in little or no time at all.
But In simple form, NO , Those features you listed only work on touchwiz Roms, and just a small thing as changing the launcher can disable som of them permanently.
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Stock ROM runs on stock everything, as well as Touchwiz Launcher.
AOKP,CM10, and AOSP Roms Run on Trebuchet, Nova or Apex Launcher.
Stock ROM has al lthese features built in, as well as proprietary files that are made just for stock Touchwiz Period. The have been signed and designed to work with TouchWiz Roms only..
Now if you want Aokp type Lockscreen, there are plenty of Mods and Themes that Can help You with that, PLENTY, Look in the THEMES & APPS SECTION of t he International Galaxy S4 section or the T-Mobile Section. Spend a little more time on XDA as well and you'll find the answer to your question in little or no time at all.
But In simple form, NO , Those features you listed only work on touchwiz Roms, and just a small thing as changing the launcher can disable som of them permanently.
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Thank you for the great info! and will the International Galaxy S4 section stuff work on the T-mobile phones?
futbolista169 said:
Thank you for the great info! and will the International Galaxy S4 section stuff work on the T-mobile phones?
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Unfortunately not. But The International Roms are feature packed my friend. Try The Omega Rom, and you can pretty much use the domination theme. P.M Me for more help buddy.
The closest you're going to get is to run Apex or Nova launcher and a AOSP based lock screen on the stock ROM. Not a bad solution and it will retain all of the S4 TW features.
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The closest you're going to get is to run Apex or Nova launcher and a AOSP based lock screen on the stock ROM. Not a bad solution and it will retain all of the S4 TW features.
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Can you please give me a link to exactly what you are talking about(or download link)? I really want a lockscreen with a slider and you slide to an app and then you put in your pattern to unlock and then you go you your application you've chosen or to your home screen.
futbolista169 said:
Can you please give me a link to exactly what you are talking about(or download link)? I really want a lockscreen with a slider and you slide to an app and then you put in your pattern to unlock and then you go you your application you've chosen or to your home screen.
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Lockscreen - Holo Locker Plus - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobint.locker.plus&hl=en
Launcher - Either Apex or Nova
I've been on CM for the last few years, but I've been running Wicked V4 on this new S4 and LOVE it. Since my OG droid in '09, this is one of my favorite ROMs. Performance-wise it's really really good. Best battery life I've every had on a phone (don't know how much of that is S4 and how much of that is ROM/kernel)
It's AOSP-ish in that it's fully debloated (no samsung or T-mo apps), and it's not themed. That being said, it runs on the TouchWiz framework, so you get all the S4's new hardware features.
It's also a little CM-ish in that there's some minor configurability with respect to the notification bar (clock colors, position, battery icons, etc)
Give it a try!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265998
I recommend either the infamous ROM or the Wicked ROM. 3minit settings (infamous) makes the phone very customizable. Wicked has (and is expanding) his own ROM control. I've tried both ROMs and honestly don't miss AOSP whatsoever.
It's easier to click "thanks" than type it.
nbeebe24 said:
I recommend either the infamous ROM or the Wicked ROM. 3minit settings (infamous) makes the phone very customizable. Wicked has (and is expanding) his own ROM control. I've tried both ROMs and honestly don't miss AOSP whatsoever.
It's easier to click "thanks" than type it.
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Buddy i went to aosp and came right Back lol.. For Some reason though I haven't tried pure CM 10.1... OH well.
se1000 said:
Lockscreen - Holo Locker Plus - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobint.locker.plus&hl=en
Launcher - Either Apex or Nova
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Hi,
I really like Apex and I really like Holo Locker Plus so thank you for the suggestions but when I lock my screen and then press the power button 99% of the time Holo Locker Plus lockscreen does not appear it just goes to my home screen. How can I fix this? And how can I put a pattern lock on it?
Thanks
futbolista169 said:
Hi,
I really like Apex and I really like Holo Locker Plus so thank you for the suggestions but when I lock my screen and then press the power button 99% of the time Holo Locker Plus lockscreen does not appear it just goes to my home screen. How can I fix this? And how can I put a pattern lock on it?
Thanks
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Not sure about the power button issue. As far as the pattern lock, it should display after the holo screen. Stock would work this way too.
If you like asop looks and theme try this this theme on touchwiz rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2345408
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Thank You for all the suggestions, I have a quick question though. Is the OMega ROM good and stable and will it work on my T-Mobile S4?
Yes, it will. Just make sure you flash a T Mobile based kernel afterwards. Otherwise you'll boot loop.
omegajester said:
Yes, it will. Just make sure you flash a T Mobile based kernel afterwards. Otherwise you'll boot loop.
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can you give me a link to the kernel because I don't have any experience with kernels and I don't want to flash the wrong one?
futbolista169 said:
can you give me a link to the kernel because I don't have any experience with kernels and I don't want to flash the wrong one?
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Here's 3 of the most flashed kernels for our beloved phones. Use them all, and keep the one you like the most.
Ktoonsez kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289140
Faux kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2273440
Chronic kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279099
I was browsing on 4chan's wallpaper board and I came across this guy's homescreen and I really want to achieve this look on my phone with hopefully something like a Paranoid Android ROM for my S2 because of it's high customizability. I want to keep it all lightweight and performant since the S2 isn't necessarily powerful. I have a newer S2 model and it's from rogers but T-Mobile ROMs seem to work fine on it. Right now my model number with this carbon rom is SGH-T989, I want to change ROM as fast as possible since it's really unstable and generally slow/glitchy so I want to overhaul my phone into something almost identical to the picture attached.
Thank you for your time!
Does anyone know what launcher that is?
Oh wait.
I found mostly everything on that
He uses the latest Nova launcher prime to do the folders
And the he has widget locker lockscreen