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I really like the vanilla version of Android with nothing skinned or running on top like Sense UI or TouchWiz. Just wanted to get a sense of what prospective buyers think about it.
Edit: This might give the devs an idea of what people want on their phones, if given the choice.
From what I've seen of TouchWiz, am looking forward to it. Am kinda bored of Sense now.
I actually like the customizable horizontal app list, even if its a copy of the iphone's menu.
The only thing I dislike about it is that you get the little square of colored background behind each application, instead of just black, it just feels wrong. Rest of the touchwiz looks ok.
Didn't try stock android yet (using HTC sense on Desire atm), but I presume you can use an alternative launcher to get it working?
I really like stock, but Sense UI is even nicer sometimes but not always, I prefer the white in the Stock with the orange.
However, the dialer and contacts are nicest on Sense UI, especially the dialer, and also the Keyboard.
I really like what I have seen from TouchWiz so far and I am really looking forward to it, I like the additions they added and I prefer a lot more a horizontal menu over vertical where I get lost quickly in the Sense UI (on my magic).
TouchWiz looks well optimized, however I read that many Singaporeans are experiencing a bit of slow launch when launching applications but other than that it's very smooth they say. I even noticed in the videos it takes time to quit or open some applications. But it can be fixed.
I must say i'm a bit shocked at the results so far, however few there are. In my experience with TouchWiz I've only had headaches. Again that is my personal experience.
When this phone goes out to the masses I'm sure there will be development to suit all our tastes. Looks like I'll be rooting for the CyanMod port lol.
Lenovo Lephone looks nice too >_>
hehe yeah not many have that.
Either way, are you going to sell N1 or keep it when you get the sammy?
I never tried Touchwiz btw, many said that before it was bad but in this new galaxy S it's much better and smoother... but arrg people are having problems in Singapore with cameras not launching lol "memory error" problems.. wow.. very sad..
Maybe that's the beginning of headaches?? such a powerful phone with a very nice camera, I hope it comes out optimized since they have until the 17th of June.
Not to mention,users are having major problems in syncing the phone to pc and especially on macs. That is one major issues considering that you have some 13gb of storage on the phone.
If the Galaxy S comes to Tmobile I will try it out for a bit since I'm up for an upgrade, so I'll be selling either one when I find which i'll be happier with. hopefully it comes out to 200 on contract.
As a side note, the Motorola Extreme is looking very nice, just wish it wasn't on Verizon, expensive plans.
Its About the content :
Widgets + Icons = Sense UI
Gallery + Menu + Launcher = Vanilla Android
Music Player + Social = Sony's X10 UI
TouchWiz have nothing expect the gesture (if you slide a contact right you'll make a call , left to message) , i hope i get the option to turn it off like Sense
Touchwiz looks like a hybrid between iphone UI and android UI and what i liked about it is that it did toke the most notable advantages of both
and if you look closely at the UI you'll see that it's not just UI be it is packed media player and photo Gallary so it's a whole package
I've ordered this phone because the TouchWiz adjustments look minimal.
The only huge difference i can see is the program launcher and the docked bar.
Obviously other things are going to be slightly different but things that are already good in Android are still there, for example the Picture gallery is pure Nexus One.
As i see it TouchWiz just wanted to be Android from the start, a widget based homescreen interface, and because of that the Galaxy S just becomes Android with some improvements. And if thats not true then a flagship phone is bound to get some developers working so there are going to be options anyway!
In terms of the feature tweaks of TouchWiz (stuff like horizontal app launcher scroll, slide left/right on contacts to call/text, etc) I pretty much like everything Samsung's added/changed with TouchWiz. But in terms of pure aesthetics and graphical style, it is simply not nearly as polished as HTC's Sense or Vanilla Android.
hmm i'm considering getting this for as my first android phone but the touchwiz interface doesn't really appeal to me. I'd rather use the Sense and its widgets. Tried a htc desire and thought it was really nice
I do not appreciate TouchWiz,it looks uncomfortable and not very convenient ！！！ that is my personal experience.A plain android is OK ！and I can use the launcher application to change the UI whenever I like！！but if anyone who can develop a UI which is more beautiful，I will have a try！！！
Can't you install something like launcher pro to have an original like launcher?
nomedor said:
Can't you install something like launcher pro to have an original like launcher?
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Yes we can (according to users who have the phone and have tried to..)
Touchwizz
touchwizz with ics look for sgs2 port xxlph for galaxy s
It's funny how in the forums you always see people complaining about TW and yet the poll shows that it is favoured over sense.
Anyway, comparing the ICS roms and stock Samsung roms I've used, I do like many aspects of touchwiz, like the notifications controls and the custamizable app drawer.
KnightMAREcrow said:
I really like the vanilla version of Android with nothing skinned or running on top like Sense UI or TouchWiz. Just wanted to get a sense of what prospective buyers think about it.
Edit: This might give the devs an idea of what people want on their phones, if given the choice.
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There are some things from Sense that I find myself missing. I am hoping that the masses can assist in getting my tweaking right. The reason I am really excited about it is the speed. It seems leaps and bounds faster than any Sense rom I have run.
I am currently running version v.0.12.11.1.
City ID: I assume this is what gives me the City and State info when a call comes through.
LauncherPro. I can't deal with the way MIUI does the home screens, and Launcher Pro seems to fit the bill for the most part.
Weather: I am totally in love with the weather widget in the clock on sense, how it gives you the weather effects over your home screen. Is there a way to get this without the clock? I am going for a clean home screen but would like that weather.
Facebook contacts:Whenever I tell facebook to connect with my contacts, and only with ones already in my phone book, it still adds people. I want it to import only with contacts already in my list. Is there a way to get this to work right?
The other MIUI features I guess are not a huge deal to me. The lock screen is pretty awesome, it comes with the FM radio app for my incredible which is great. I really hate not having the app drawer. Overall the speed is what got me.
Is there a fast sense rom out there I should use instead? I assume I could mod things like the dialer and lock screen if I wanted right?
Any opinions and suggestions are appreciated and welcomed. I just can't sit still on a rom!
Redemption 2.3 is a VERY nice Sense ROM
Shiftyshadee said:
Redemption 2.3 is a VERY nice Sense ROM
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I have used it before, but it just seems sluggish compared to something like MIUI. Could this be true?
Forgive the noobish questions, but are there different kernels you can run with a rom for more speed?
I believe MIUI is somewhat of an AOSP based ROM (someone correct me if I'm wrong) and Sense based ROMs will always feel slightly slower than those.
HeyItsLou has a few kernels that he made that work well with his ROMs try 'em out
Hi everyone,
I really like Aopk and I have used it on my old S2. I was really exited when it came out for the S4 and I flashed it right away but I was really disappointed when I saw that the S4 features were not there. Is there a rom that is very similar to Aopk and has all the S4 features or at least has a very similar lockscreen (very important to me)? I looked at a lot of ROMs that have the S4 features but they look almost the same way as the S4 original look (stock). I wan't it to be stable because I use it for work and for school and I can't have it doing weird things on me. If there isn't a ROM like that is there any way I can take the Aopk ROM and take another ROM that has all the S4 features and some how combine them?(my only complaint to Aopk is that it doesn't have the S4 features)
Oh and by the way, I have the T-Mobile S4
Thank You
If by 'S4 features' you mean the samsung apps and TouchWiz UI then no. Those are locked into the stock rom. There are roms that remove the carrier bloat of the original rom while leaving TouchWiz and samsung apps intact, which it sounds like you have found. But I dont think its possible to add the samsung apps to something like AOKP. AOKP and AOSP are by definition open source so using the closed source Samsung software wouldnt make sense. Thats my understanding, I may be misinformed.
futbolista169 said:
Hi everyone,
I really like Aopk and I have used it on my old S2. I was really exited when it came out for the S4 and I flashed it right away but I was really disappointed when I saw that the S4 features were not there. Is there a rom that is very similar to Aopk and has all the S4 features or at least has a very similar lockscreen (very important to me)? I looked at a lot of ROMs that have the S4 features but they look almost the same way as the S4 original look (stock). I wan't it to be stable because I use it for work and for school and I can't have it doing weird things on me. If there isn't a ROM like that is there any way I can take the Aopk ROM and take another ROM that has all the S4 features and some how combine them?(my only complaint to Aopk is that it doesn't have the S4 features)
Oh and by the way, I have the T-Mobile S4
Thank You
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Yea it's not really possible. The closest thing you would get is by taking one of the Google Edition ROMs and hacking in the features yourself since they do run on the TouchWiz Framework and Kernel, it's just stripped down to Vanilla Android.
By the features I mean NFC, S Beam, Air view, Motions and gestures, and stuff like that. Can you guys explain what you said in the previous posts a little more, because I have simple knowledge about ROMs but I am not all that advanced. Is there any way I can at least completely change the lockscreen to look like Aopk's if I can't have Aopk and the features?
Thank You
futbolista169 said:
By the features I mean NFC, S Beam, Air view, Motions and gestures, and stuff like that. Can you guys explain what you said in the previous posts a little more, because I have simple knowledge about ROMs but I am not all that advanced. Is there any way I can at least completely change the lockscreen to look like Aopk's if I can't have Aopk and the features?
Thank You
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Stock ROM runs on stock everything, as well as Touchwiz Launcher.
AOKP,CM10, and AOSP Roms Run on Trebuchet, Nova or Apex Launcher.
Stock ROM has al lthese features built in, as well as proprietary files that are made just for stock Touchwiz Period. The have been signed and designed to work with TouchWiz Roms only..
Now if you want Aokp type Lockscreen, there are plenty of Mods and Themes that Can help You with that, PLENTY, Look in the THEMES & APPS SECTION of t he International Galaxy S4 section or the T-Mobile Section. Spend a little more time on XDA as well and you'll find the answer to your question in little or no time at all.
But In simple form, NO , Those features you listed only work on touchwiz Roms, and just a small thing as changing the launcher can disable som of them permanently.
If I help. Please Hit the Thanks Button
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Stock ROM runs on stock everything, as well as Touchwiz Launcher.
AOKP,CM10, and AOSP Roms Run on Trebuchet, Nova or Apex Launcher.
Stock ROM has al lthese features built in, as well as proprietary files that are made just for stock Touchwiz Period. The have been signed and designed to work with TouchWiz Roms only..
Now if you want Aokp type Lockscreen, there are plenty of Mods and Themes that Can help You with that, PLENTY, Look in the THEMES & APPS SECTION of t he International Galaxy S4 section or the T-Mobile Section. Spend a little more time on XDA as well and you'll find the answer to your question in little or no time at all.
But In simple form, NO , Those features you listed only work on touchwiz Roms, and just a small thing as changing the launcher can disable som of them permanently.
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Thank you for the great info! and will the International Galaxy S4 section stuff work on the T-mobile phones?
futbolista169 said:
Thank you for the great info! and will the International Galaxy S4 section stuff work on the T-mobile phones?
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Unfortunately not. But The International Roms are feature packed my friend. Try The Omega Rom, and you can pretty much use the domination theme. P.M Me for more help buddy.
The closest you're going to get is to run Apex or Nova launcher and a AOSP based lock screen on the stock ROM. Not a bad solution and it will retain all of the S4 TW features.
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The closest you're going to get is to run Apex or Nova launcher and a AOSP based lock screen on the stock ROM. Not a bad solution and it will retain all of the S4 TW features.
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Can you please give me a link to exactly what you are talking about(or download link)? I really want a lockscreen with a slider and you slide to an app and then you put in your pattern to unlock and then you go you your application you've chosen or to your home screen.
futbolista169 said:
Can you please give me a link to exactly what you are talking about(or download link)? I really want a lockscreen with a slider and you slide to an app and then you put in your pattern to unlock and then you go you your application you've chosen or to your home screen.
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Lockscreen - Holo Locker Plus - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobint.locker.plus&hl=en
Launcher - Either Apex or Nova
I've been on CM for the last few years, but I've been running Wicked V4 on this new S4 and LOVE it. Since my OG droid in '09, this is one of my favorite ROMs. Performance-wise it's really really good. Best battery life I've every had on a phone (don't know how much of that is S4 and how much of that is ROM/kernel)
It's AOSP-ish in that it's fully debloated (no samsung or T-mo apps), and it's not themed. That being said, it runs on the TouchWiz framework, so you get all the S4's new hardware features.
It's also a little CM-ish in that there's some minor configurability with respect to the notification bar (clock colors, position, battery icons, etc)
Give it a try!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265998
I recommend either the infamous ROM or the Wicked ROM. 3minit settings (infamous) makes the phone very customizable. Wicked has (and is expanding) his own ROM control. I've tried both ROMs and honestly don't miss AOSP whatsoever.
It's easier to click "thanks" than type it.
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I recommend either the infamous ROM or the Wicked ROM. 3minit settings (infamous) makes the phone very customizable. Wicked has (and is expanding) his own ROM control. I've tried both ROMs and honestly don't miss AOSP whatsoever.
It's easier to click "thanks" than type it.
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Buddy i went to aosp and came right Back lol.. For Some reason though I haven't tried pure CM 10.1... OH well.
se1000 said:
Lockscreen - Holo Locker Plus - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobint.locker.plus&hl=en
Launcher - Either Apex or Nova
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Hi,
I really like Apex and I really like Holo Locker Plus so thank you for the suggestions but when I lock my screen and then press the power button 99% of the time Holo Locker Plus lockscreen does not appear it just goes to my home screen. How can I fix this? And how can I put a pattern lock on it?
Thanks
futbolista169 said:
Hi,
I really like Apex and I really like Holo Locker Plus so thank you for the suggestions but when I lock my screen and then press the power button 99% of the time Holo Locker Plus lockscreen does not appear it just goes to my home screen. How can I fix this? And how can I put a pattern lock on it?
Thanks
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Not sure about the power button issue. As far as the pattern lock, it should display after the holo screen. Stock would work this way too.
If you like asop looks and theme try this this theme on touchwiz rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2345408
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Thank You for all the suggestions, I have a quick question though. Is the OMega ROM good and stable and will it work on my T-Mobile S4?
Yes, it will. Just make sure you flash a T Mobile based kernel afterwards. Otherwise you'll boot loop.
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Yes, it will. Just make sure you flash a T Mobile based kernel afterwards. Otherwise you'll boot loop.
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can you give me a link to the kernel because I don't have any experience with kernels and I don't want to flash the wrong one?
futbolista169 said:
can you give me a link to the kernel because I don't have any experience with kernels and I don't want to flash the wrong one?
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Here's 3 of the most flashed kernels for our beloved phones. Use them all, and keep the one you like the most.
Ktoonsez kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289140
Faux kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2273440
Chronic kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2279099
Alright, here is the deal, I am currently running 4.3 Sabermod PA and I have Nova launcher installed and have had for quite sometime. I like to change things up from time to time so that I don't get burned out on an older phone and get the urge to upgrade/buy a new phone. My girlfriend has the S3 and I have played with it some and would not mind trying out a touchwiz launcher. Now here is my question: Is there a touchwiz launcher for my gnex that would support a 210-240 dpi? I have installed several from all over XDA and have to set my dpi to 320 and I find that very unappealing. (I know I am being a "diva", but I just like having a lower DPI.) I have done many searches over the last several days and tried 3-4 different touchwiz launcher/ports with no success of finding one that will let me change the DPI. So if anyone has any links/advice/answers I would greatly appreciate it. Also, if I would be better off trying a nova theme let me know that as well, I just wanted to use the weather widget and have a complete S3 like experience if possible. Thanks in advance.
Also, if someone has used the kit kat launcher let me know your experience with it. I am just looking for a new look without changing ROMs at the moment.
Ive been looking around a bit at roms... but they all seem to be stock based. i find stock ugly. i much prefer the touchwiz based compact notification drawer im using now. Not to mention custom fonts, separate lock screen adn home screen wallpaper, upon other things i cant think of right now.
Ive played around with my mothers pure stock phone and while i could figure it out just fine, it lacked much of any personalization.
That would be cool if someone adapted say the galaxy S4 mini or S whichever-number mini software to work with our devices, that way it would be an update for OS but it wouldnt end up lacking all the neat things im used to.
Unless ive just seen too basic of a version of stock... Moto G.
Im sure im alone in this as most people want rid of touchwiz and install themes to look like stock..... but its something i secretly hope for lol.