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Just wondering what people's opinions are with regards to their selected ROMS - Please Vote and state why
Sense because the user interface is so much better than non sense roms in my personal opinion. It seems to give a much better look and feel to the usage of the phone.
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Usability or Beauty.
Sense has things like teh beauty, the camera app, Rosie (which i never use), friend-stream, all of which are pretty great, and amazing usability.
while Android has the openness, the speed and stability, and allows you to do more things, but things can get ugly, like the borders of contact pictures, the camera app, and OJ death while it was an issue.
I find myself switching from OD to AuraxTSense and back about 3 times daily, because the camera can't take the pictures as sharp as I like, or because the sense is very bloaty and takes up half the screen on things like messages (reasons for today, tomorrow i think it's the theming for OD vs SYSRW in AuraxTSense)
The pros and cons of each are what is going to kill me. Can't wait for the new sense, and have realised I'm on a 16month plan so no instant Desire HD for me :'(
Which?
Hi
For me it's with Sense. The integration into Android is getting better since the early Windows Mobile days.
As long as Sense + the phone's operating system doesn't end up becoming so bloated that it brings about lag and problems (in an underpowered phone) then it will continue to be useful - in my eyes.
Cheers
Aussie
Non sense makes sense for me
i began with the nexus one using cyanogen and it was VERY fast. Sense however, seems to give it that certain polish giving a premium feel. Also, i have yet to see a more fluid flipping between homescreens than sense.
I'm on no sense now because many sense apps I don't use and no sense feels sharper.
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i'm staying with Sense cuz of camera and dialer app. Those 2 are the only reason. if CM got them i would gladly switch to it immediately.
I tried CM and OD and i love them both, cuz the devs and designers are using them a lot. and i want the REVOLution theme on my Sense-Desire!!! and they are on CM only~~
Sense. If I didn't want the Sense UI, why would I have purchased a HTC Desire? I could have gone for a Nexus One or... the Galaxy S
No sense for me cause it takes up extra ram and I don't like the black bubble browser menu and complexity of the UI as well as the lack of 3D effect like the launcher2 has. The simplicity of the AOSP nexus one like ROMS help work flow for me. After the new Desire HD rom is ported and provides better functionality, I may consider swapping
Again why is this in the dev section? And not general?
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Am I the only one using sence because of speed? I love launcherpro, but on every vanilla ROM I have been using, launcherpro has been extremely laggy. Even if all benchmarks tell me the phone is faster, it still feels terribly slow. MoDaCo to me feels so much quicker.
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Sense is good in a sense that it makes the whole android UI more easy to use, more manageable, and makes the whole thing more beautiful. People always tend to put different themes on their phone to make it as their own custom look and feel. So for me I like sense... either that or install launcher and download your own preferred theme right? I guess it all goes down to personal preference.
sense purly because I could not live without HTC Sense widgets
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Again why is this in the dev section? And not general?
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Ahem! The rules are, you need to vote and leave a comment please.
And this is in the Desire Q&A Section since it is a question.
Without Sense ... sense is slow
For easy klicking and social networks and so on its fine perhaps ... but i never need it ... so no need for sense. The Clock with weather is fine ... so i use Fency. For Calendar ... Purewidgets ... 3 Widgets replace the hole sense for me so enjoy the speed.
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Without Sense ... sense is slow
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I have two Desires which I regularly swap between - one is running CyanogenMod and the other MoDaCo's MCR8 Sense ROM.
I'm sure that in benchmarks CyanogendMod is "faster" but in my experience, in real world usage, there is no difference.
Actually, there is one difference - CyanogenMod is way *slower* when copying files to/from the devices in USB storage mode.
Regards,
Dave
As much as I love Sense UI, I'd rather have it optional, with a possibility to add/remove the components.
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As much as I love Sense UI, I'd rather have it optional, with a possibility to add/remove the components.
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Ditto. Thus I ditched Sense altogether. I didn't use more than half of the components of sense. most frustrating is that it doesn't completely replace the base process, just runs on top of it consuming resources.
I posted this on the CM thread but i might as well ask you guys.
A question to a sense user switching to CM/Stock rom, how do you live without htc camera and htc phone dialer?
i mean for those that bought their Desire or starting to use their phone with sense without knowing a vanilla UI exist(like me). i just felt somethings missing without the htc camera and dialer. I've flashed OD/CM a couple of times but returning back to Sense cuz of that. Otherwise i would stay on CM, it is such a good rom.
I'm buying a Cybershot Digital camera but thats not so soon so i would like to have a decent camera app before that. i mean, the resolution is not wide as htc camera when taking pictures. and if i wanted a wide one i need to lower the resolution to 4.5mp? or is there any trick to that? cuz everytime i capture a pic, i'll get this right and left bar beside the pic using the 5mp resolution.
as for dialer, dialer one doesnt feel quite right to replace the htc dialer, though i may accept it sooner or later if i got my digital camera after this.
Just wanted an opinion for a Sense starter, not from pure stock rom user cuz you know vanilla UI from the start so you dont know how i feel. but you may post your opinion as well.
last question, can someone give a thought bout the 720p video recording? is it good, or better than sense's 720p?
and does this support A2SD+,i mean in this CM6, cuz CM6 RC2 doesnt have this yet and i'm on OD cuz of this actually. i want A2SD+ cuz i cant live without it...
I'm on Modaco R8 self baked ROM btw.
Thanks!
I'm not trying to be lazy here, but due to being in school, two part time jobs, a family of four, etc...I was hoping to crowd source some recommendations or what to steer clear of for custom rooms and kernels for the Droid Incredible. I am rooted and have been for a while, and have attempted to do some custom cleaning up by way of root manager and titanium backup, etc., but to be honest, I don't have the time to get into the self management too much due to the life stresses I listed above.
Basically I am looking for something that is of good speed performance without sacrificing battery life and possibly improving it (I know, we don't live in a perfect world, but it's worth a shot) along with getting rid of the crapware that HTC shoves down your throat.
I am now on the stock froyo with HTC sense and of course I want good app compatibility too. I am also a sucker for eye candy, so it doesn't have to have the sense UI but I do like a bit of UI intuitiveness and pleasant to the eye.
Obviously I am on a Droid Incredible, rooted with stock froyo and sense UI, as I've already said.
Recommendations are greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Roger
Well, there really isn't anything to "steer clear" of. What I would recommend is trying a few sense roms, AOSP roms, and MIUI.
If you like sense roms, I would recommend
Warm 2.2 if you like the theme (though if you like MMS there's a problem about mms and wifi)
Uber Z if you like Z roms (pastel button in bottom right, also faster)
Nothing Special if you want to stay stock
Ziggy's 1/21 kernel with BFS (note that he makes new ones quite frequently)
If you like AOSP, I would definitely only recommend CM7 (CyanogenMod 7) with the stock kernel. I haven't tried any other kernels but I've found the stock kernel gives very smooth and snappy performance but still has good battery.
If you like MIUI, I would recommend the "real" MIUI. It's updated very frequently. I can't really recommend a good kernel because I don't like MIUI much (personal preference, some hate it but some like it). Just use your favorite AOSP kernel because MIUI is just a themed AOSP rom.
Hope this helps
Thanks for the insight.
I am thinking an AOSP, as you recommend Cyanogenmod 7, because I am interested in trying some different UI flavors. As I said, I am a sucker for eye candy, so if there is something really dazzling then all the better; however, my main concern is hopefully a little battery improvement, and getting rid of all the crapware bloat that they hold you hostage with. I don't Facebook AT ALL, I very seldom look at Twitter, and I could give a rat's ass about City ID, or Footprints, or Foursquare, and whatever else there is. I don't knock any of them and I know many do use them, but my theory is, if I want it then I'll install it, otherwise I want it the hell out of sight and out of mind! LOL
While I do agree the HTC Sense UI is the better of the market options for smart phones, but I've also heard from Leo Laporte that the straight Android OS features are also nice and allow for better streamlining, and I know there are others here too. So as I said, I'm always up for a new paint job on the Ole Hot Rod, but not if it is gonna make it where I can't pass a gas station anymore.
I appreciate the recommendations, and I'm probably gonna attempt this later this afternoon or this evening, so any other suggestions in the meantime are greatly appreciated. I just don't have the time to endless hours flashing and testing, and re-flashing and testing, blah, blah, blah.
Thanks Again,
Roger
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Hello, I am pretty new to ROMs however I have just started and am currently running warm z twopointtwo and so far I love it. The only problem I have had so far is not being able to set up the HTC account to see the new download options with the new sense. Other than that it is fast and smooth. I love the upgrade from sense 1.0.
I have also tried CM7. It was nice and smooth and fast, however at the time I was still in the mind set of loving the sense UI. I have also tried incredibly re-engineered. That was very nice as well but to me it wasn't a big enough change.
If some one can tell me how to get an HTC account for the warm z twopointtwo I would ukky recommend that. As far as installing ROMs I have done it through Rom manager and found it to be easy. I would recommend doing it through clockwork however as some roms didn't act right through a Rom manager install. Just make sure the Rom does not specify a different file for the different clockwork versions. In the case of warm z there is two versions to choose from depending on which CWM you are running.
Have fun
Edit: also do a Google search for incredible roms. There was a page that had a list of roms and mods and such. Something to look into.
Try warm z or inc re-engineered
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what do you like the most about sense? You can get most of the features from sense via Widgets if you look hard enough. I initially had trouble switching to an AOSP rom until I found the stuff to replace what i missed from sense.
I think what I like most is the extra widgets. For instance the calendar widget that is 4x1 i use on my home screen for a quick glance at what I have next on my schedule. It's not a feal breaker by anymeans. And the more I look at aosp roms the more I consider them.
Actually I don't use all the widget junk from the sense UI, like twitter and people and such. I guess what I meant was the phone dialer and multiple home pages, and in that sense (no pun intended) I could really stand to see a little better integration and design of the contacts portion.
However...aside from not being a Facebook'er, I would love to be able to utilize some fancy widgets if i were to be lucky enough to fall onto a rom and kernel that drastically improved on the existing sucky battery life.
Smooth calendar is free and gives you the same functionality. More customizable as well. I used it until I realized I never have anything on my calendar. I live through outlook at work and outside of work I dont really operate on a schedule.
Like I said, there are plenty of Widgets that will give the same function of any of the sense widgets. I've seen way, way better battery life out of cm7/incredikernel
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The only problem I have had so far is not being able to set up the HTC account to see the new download options with the new sense. Other than that it is fast and smooth. I love the upgrade from sense 1.0.
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You should be able to set up an HTC account in setup. That's what I did.
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As far as aosp, I believe Evervolv is a solid option. Not sure if its still actively being developed but I ran it for awhile not long ago and it seemed solid
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I've found this to be a pretty sufficient replacement for sense on AOSP:
Sense = AOSP + Lense or Rotary lockscreen + CM7 Sense Theme + ADW Sense Theme + Fancy Widget Pro + Smooth Calendar + Pure Calendar + Pure Grid Calendar + Pure Music (when it starts to work on CM7) + Phantom Music Control (until Pure Music is fixed) + Pure Messenger + Dialer One.
Quite a list. Some of the Pure widgets can be skipped if you don't use them (probably only choose one of the calendar widgets, maybe even neither if you like smooth calendar more for example). All in all this combo takes maybe half an hour to set up and costs a few dollars but all in all IMHO time and money well spent.
Stability is key
I'm big fan of constant flashing. It's hard to ever just choose one, but in the end battery life and stability is key. Eye candy is also a good thing. If you like Sense UI I would recommend Incredible Re-Engineered, it's a great little ROM, although it has some MMS issues, but that may be GVoice based and nothing more. Magnolia is also stable and I find myself constantly going back to it because of that.
As for an AOSP ROM I've never had much luck with any CM version, however UltimateDroid is nice and flashy and very customizable. It has some minor stability issues with data connections, but I've found that with most AOSP builds. I can't speak about the MIUI ROMs as I'm not a fan of the Apple interface, so I don't bother to test out the iDroid ROMs.
In the end, honestly their is no real winner because every phone is different. Your best bet is to use some prebuilt lists such as Android Candy or The Incredible List. ROMs and Kernels are ever evolving and the only one to find what works best is you. So spend an hour downloading ROMs one night and flash one a day and see what works best for you.
Well...looks like CM7 & Incredikernel are the show winners.
I'll be even more impressed when I can open &/save pics and attachments from my yahoo mail app.
In the meantime...this is pretty slick, the new UI and features are almost like getting a new phone. If I had the 4.3" screen then I would almost consider relinquishing my wife upcoming upgrade back to her. Lol
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I installed incredibly re-engineered 2.3.2 last night and I love all the tweeks. But, I still prefer the launcher pro launcher. Would I be better off going with a AOSP rom like CM7? Was thinking if I'm going to use the vanilla style launcher anyway it might be a better fit. Went with Incredibly Re-Engineered because of stability and speed. Have never had a vanilla rom installed so not sure what I'd get into. First flash went seamlessly so feeling a bit curious to try some more things out.
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I installed incredibly re-engineered 2.3.2 last night and I love all the tweeks. But, I still prefer the launcher pro launcher. Would I be better off going with a AOSP rom like CM7? Was thinking if I'm going to use the vanilla style launcher anyway it might be a better fit. Went with Incredibly Re-Engineered because of stability and speed. Have never had a vanilla rom installed so not sure what I'd get into. First flash went seamlessly so feeling a bit curious to try some more things out.
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You can desensitize (there's a script somewhere) the rom so that you can use Launcher Pro with the Sense overall feel.
I too love Incredibly Re-engineered. For eye candy, AOSP ROMs have always struck me as barren. Not to mention quirky. I've yet to lay finger on a version of CM that wasn't overtly quirky... kinda like a BlackBerry OS. And the concept of going stripped AOSP then spending time and MONEY to get it where a sense ROM is seems... senseless? If you've got a Ti Backup you'd like to restore whole or in part, plus just logging in, arranging your desktops, and tweaking setting, you're already putting in a decent time investment I know I don't relish repeating trying to find a ROM I like.
Gotta remember too that there are oodles of good kernels (and some real lousy ones) out there that can make a tight sense ROM as fast or faster and as good or better on the battery as an average AOSP ROM. Good choices, even with a stock ROM, would be Lou's, Chad's, Ziggy's (if you don't mind stupid-slow wake-up speeds), and my personal favorite, the Hydra Kernels.
You could also do something like ADW EX from the market. That's what I do because most of the time I prefer sense. Then there is the times I want to theme my phone and have more settings. That's where ADW comes in. Just a thought.
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IncrediblyRe-Engineered v-2.30 leave the kernel it comes with been through many this ones fastest and everything works for me its a Sprint-Evo port for Inc love the free hotspot feature and lots of different themes etc though blacklist on the boring cm7 is great if you've got creditors after you MIUI is awesome too especially if you like the iPhone display though charging your battery becomes all to frequent
So...I'm really liking CM7 with the different and extensive UI features, and though I'm not getting the battery life I thought I was, Incredikernel is alright, I suppose...at least there isn't any performance degradation.
Something that's got me confused though...I never paid any attention before, until I started playing with all this hacking, but everything, including the Rom and apps and everything is going onto the SdCard and I'm running out of storage after I download a couple podcast, let alone that I obviously want to keep exploring new apps.
I was under the assumption that all "installs" of any kind would hit the internal storage first by default and then the SdCard was just extra storage for the most part. Especially since I'm always seeing folks wanting to move an app to the card. Nevertheless, its an 8gb card so I wouldn't have thought it would fill that fast anyway.
So am I missing something here, or is there maybe a hiccup in something I've done? I have been searching the threads for some storage issues I seen when I first started lurking around here, but now of course I can't find them to save my life, and I unfortunately don't have the time to read threads for days on end. Can anyone point me in thebright direction?
Thanks,
Roger
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Hey guys,
So I'm getting a little impatient with waiting for Gingerbread on my DHD and was thinking of going to CM7 now that its Final. Previous Custom ROMS so far havn't really done it for me. I kinda like the reliablility and battery life etc of the stock build.
Has anyone tried CM7 on the DHD who could maybe give a little account of how it worked out (battery life etc)?
Thanks
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Hey guys,
So I'm getting a little impatient with waiting for Gingerbread on my DHD and was thinking of going to CM7 now that its Final. Previous Custom ROMS so far havn't really done it for me. I kinda like the reliablility and battery life etc of the stock build.
Has anyone tried CM7 on the DHD who could maybe give a little account of how it worked out (battery life etc)?
Thanks
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Battery life is superb on CM7 and much better than the Gingerbread Sense ROMs. I take it you have tried the latest Desire S builds? I recommend RCMix if you haven't. If you are wanting the pure Google experience though, you have nothing to fear with CM7.
Regards.
Stock rom offers a better connection between all the social networks, better stock widgets and htc sense camera app. hmmm i did have CM7 for while and i loved it but its just the camera app that did it for me, i guess im just too used to HTC sense !
I had no problems with CM7 either. Very nice rom. Camera App is nice. Audio is great. Having or not having HTC Sense is a big decision maker. Once or if you get bored of Sense, then you will really enjoy a rom like CM7 for all its other differences. If it could have the Sense Weather animations and clock, Touch Input keyboard and HTC Reader 2.0 - it could be my ideal rom at this point.
Although I'm a relative noob with trying the many Android roms.
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I had no problems with CM7 either. Very nice rom. Camera App is nice. Audio is great. Having or not having HTC Sense is a big decision maker. Once or if you get bored of Sense, then you will really enjoy a rom like CM7 for all its other differences. If it could have the Sense Weather animations and clock, Touch Input keyboard and HTC Reader 2.0 - it could be my ideal rom at this point.
Although I'm a relative noob with trying the many Android roms.
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The clock, albeit not with the flip function, can be found all over the internet. Search for Fancy Widget (Sense Clock) to find it. If you can't and desperately need it, I will pm you the apk upon request, although will have to dig it out first. Keyboard? I'm confused as to exactly what you mean, but you can use the HTC keyboard on CM7 as well as numerous other replacements. HTC Reader??!! No way! Aldiko and Laputa both make HTC's attempt look poor. Not to mention Kindle.
Personally, the slight nuances of pure Android are what I find hard to resist. The transition animations, which were present on the Donut Sense UI but inexplicably left out since 2.1, are a big one. I know you can find ROMs which include the different animations or use Launcher Pro, but they never operate 100% and stutter/glitch at random moments. Even the way the keyboard bounces onto the screen rather than just "appearing" gives a more polished feel. The clean simple UI, which lacks the clutter and plethora of menu's that Sense incorporates is a dream to navigate, and the overall speed of the OS is unrivalled. I guess for the "average user", Sense is a comfortable, intuitive blanket which makes Android accessible for the masses. In the Windows Mobile days and arguably when Cupcake/Donut were still in use, it was a necessity. Since 2.1 however, I feel it is no longer needed as the Android UI has evolved to a point where it should appeal to anyone.
Regards.
EDIT: Just seen your website Grant! Forgive the app recommendations, I see you are already well versed in alternatives.
Thanks guys!!
Im still not sure! I wasn't the interface i was worried about! I've given the customs a whirl and its been more the reliability and performance that have brought me back to the stock ROM. I've downloaded the CM7 zip! might give it a chance over the weekend before the week starts over! Ill always have my back-up for when HTC decide to give us an official release of 2.3.3.
Maybe ill never go back once i try CM7!
cheers
if your a gameloft gamer, i suggest sticking with a sense 2.2 rom. if your a audiophile, cm7.
So using it now! Love the look and feel except I find that its a big sticky when swiping between homescreens. Any suggestions?
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So using it now! Love the look and feel except I find that its a big sticky when swiping between homescreens. Any suggestions?
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Try a different launcher. Launcher Pro is one of the smoothest.
Regards.
The Regina 3D Launcher is one I've only just heard of - thanks to Pocketnow.com.
For anyone who hasn't tried CyanogenMod 7 - there are some screenshots here.
I've only tried 3 Roms so far on Android. It would be nice to have an ongoing poll based on member's records or vote or something to see which ones are the most popular.
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For anyone who hasn't tried CyanogenMod 7 - there are some screenshots here.
I've only tried 3 Roms so far on Android. It would be nice to have an ongoing poll based on member's records or vote or something to see which ones are the most popular.
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One thing I found missing is the ability to hide certain albums within the gallery. A nice feature when you've lots of crap on you SD card! Also having the GPS issue that seems pretty widespread.
Other than that, battery life = more awesome than Stock!
Does anyone else feel like it's like wrong to run other looks/UIs, like stock Android, or like TouchWiz look on an HTC device. Whenever I try to, I always restore back to sense as soon as I remember that it's an HTC device that's supposed to have sense. Maybe I'm just weird.
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Does anyone else feel like it's like wrong to run other looks/UIs, like stock Android, or like TouchWiz look on an HTC device. Whenever I try to, I always restore back to sense as soon as I remember that it's an HTC device that's supposed to have sense. Maybe I'm just weird.
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Nah. Even when I was stock w/Sense, I used ADWLauncher and tried to make it feel like plain android.
Lol nah. I was just running Adw ex on rls 1.1 for an ics look. It went with the theme. I personally love sense, but don't like all the gloss and crap. I want it all matte.
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I love stock Android too, and I'll probably run ICS when camera is fixed, but stock feels like something is missing. But, I don't feel that way on a Nexus device, only my HTC phone.
AgalychnisCallidryas said:
I love stock Android too, and I'll probably run ICS when camera is fixed, but stock feels like something is missing. But, I don't feel that way on a Nexus device, only my HTC phone.
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Well cuz you know what to expect from both. On htc you know they get fancy
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I don't want to start a Sense vs AOSP debate, but IMO Sense is really starting to feel like it's own OS. With each update it seems to feel less like an android. I may be biased because I hated it from the time I had the Eris. Sense was very laggy back then lol.
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I don't want to start a Sense vs AOSP debate, but IMO Sense is really starting to feel like it's own OS. With each update it seems to feel less like an android. I may be biased because I hated it from the time I had the Eris. Sense was very laggy back then lol.
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I have to agree about it coming into its own os feel. I know when I was running the SE X10 everyone asked for a sense port of some kind. I can't stay away from it. I might run GOLauncher from time to time but I flip back to sense.
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I don't want to start a Sense vs AOSP debate, but IMO Sense is really starting to feel like it's own OS. With each update it seems to feel less like an android. I may be biased because I hated it from the time I had the Eris. Sense was very laggy back then lol.
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We see eye to eye allot lol.
I loved sense for a while lol but it hot heavy and bloated to me...and no 5 column app drawer....lame..
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3rd party roms are always too buggy or lack features for me to justify using them. that includes cm7,miui and all of the sense roms.my phone just seems to perform more consistently with the rooted stock roms and sense launcher, that is the only reason i use it.
of course i hate sense and probably won't be buying another htc phone next go around because of it.
never liked Sense, TouchWiz,etc. TagHome is what i've always run.
Yeah kinda feels weird when u go back to sense, but sense isn't for me when we can root and do anything
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sense is the best out of touchwiz, motoblur, etc.
I really enjoyed sense 3.5, plus i love the power saving features. However, I don't like being stuck on one single UI. Its the only reason, why I would never buy an Iphone. Also, I prefer MIUI because i can change customizations as often as i want. Also, I'm thinking some of our dev's will have a complete ICS port way before HTC has a working Sense ICS version.
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I really enjoyed sense 3.5, plus i love the power saving features. However, I don't like being stuck on one single UI. Its the only reason, why I would never buy an Iphone. Also, I prefer MIUI because i can change customizations as often as i want. Also, I'm thinking some of our dev's will have a complete ICS port way before HTC has a working Sense ICS version.
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Something I'd love to see, and would probably keep me using only that is a hybrid between sense and MIUI similar to MIUIwhiz from TSM.
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I always restore back to sense as soon as I remember that it's an HTC device that's supposed to have sense. Maybe I'm just weird.
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I thought I'd love Sense until I got the Inc2, and pretty much immediately disliked it. I didn't like the launcher - dedicating the entire bottom dock to phone, apps and customize buttons, to me, is just stupid, especially the customize button - once I get things set how I like it, why would I ever use that button again. I know it can be modded to be something else, but we're talking about stock Sense. Also, most of the widgets are useless to me - I don't use Facebook, Twitter or any other social network BS, and I don't schedule anything on a calendar. The e-mail and SMS widgets are OK, but would have been better if they were combined into a catch-all messaging widget like Pure Messenger.
So I ended up using ADW EX (which I had been using since my Fascinate). Went back and forth between CM7, Sense and MIUI for a while until I realized I don't care for the overall aesthetics of Sense, and CM7 is just a little too spartan. I don't like MIUI's lack of an app drawer, but I like how it looks/works otherwise, so I've been using MIUI with ADW EX and it suites me just fine. Never once thought that, being an HTC phone, it HAD to run Sense.
Just my 2 cents.
ChrisDDD said:
I thought I'd love Sense until I got the Inc2, and pretty much immediately disliked it. I didn't like the launcher - dedicating the entire bottom dock to phone, apps and customize buttons, to me, is just stupid, especially the customize button - once I get things set how I like it, why would I ever use that button again. I know it can be modded to be something else, but we're talking about stock Sense. Also, most of the widgets are useless to me - I don't use Facebook, Twitter or any other social network BS, and I don't schedule anything on a calendar. The e-mail and SMS widgets are OK, but would have been better if they were combined into a catch-all messaging widget like Pure Messenger.
So I ended up using ADW EX (which I had been using since my Fascinate). Went back and forth between CM7, Sense and MIUI for a while until I realized I don't care for the overall aesthetics of Sense, and CM7 is just a little too spartan. I don't like MIUI's lack of an app drawer, but I like how it looks/works otherwise, so I've been using MIUI with ADW EX and it suites me just fine. Never once thought that, being an HTC phone, it HAD to run Sense.
Just my 2 cents.
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I feel like you're spot on. I feel like that is the beauty of Android, we have so many choices, and no one can tell you what you have to run or what has to be done with your looks. I used to love MIUI, but for some reason I restored to it today after being on sense for a while, and it just didn't do it for me. I'm kinda curious about lefty's cm7.2 kang build. I love this phone and how many choices there are and how diverse we have it here. To each there own, I love sense, but I also love AOSP. I love Android. Haha
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I just came to the DInc2 from OG D1, and I've actually really taken to the Sense UI. To me, coming from custom froyo then GB Roms, then a few HC and ICS themed Roms, the Sense feels so much more polished and intuitive.
I'm running Skyraider with dres' OC kernel, but even stock didn't seem laggy, just crazy bloated.
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There are a lot of Sense features I like, but the only thing I end up using really is the Ring-Pull and shortcut Sense lockscreen. Dedicating valuable screen space is not cool, especially with how little you can change it (skins only for stock). I think HTC does a good job with it, it just isn't for me. I'm liking ADW ex right now on rls1.1, but I'm just biding my time for MIUI to put out their ICS build like I'm sure a lot of people are.
TheAtheistReverend said:
There are a lot of Sense features I like, but the only thing I end up using really is the Ring-Pull and shortcut Sense lockscreen. Dedicating valuable screen space is not cool, especially with how little you can change it (skins only for stock). I think HTC does a good job with it, it just isn't for me. I'm liking ADW ex right now on rls1.1, but I'm just biding my time for MIUI to put out their ICS build like I'm sure a lot of people are.
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Have you tried the CM7 "rings" lockscreen? It gives you the option to put any app shortcuts on the screen.
JAS_21 said:
Have you tried the CM7 "rings" lockscreen? It gives you the option to put any app shortcuts on the screen.
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I haven't. Operation is smooth? And I assume these can be used with MIUI?
And lastly, where do I find these?
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me, I think it's a big step up from my previous HTC EVO, while I still like that phone more than what I am using (htc t328w with Sense 4), I always found Sense 3 a bit laggy and crunchy, it always felt like it chugged a little on my phone. However, I absolutely loved the widgets and clock and everything. This however, basically takes all that, makes it sexier and smoother... it's refreshing! On my other androids, I almost always used a 3rd party launcher (Launcher Pro), but out of all the launchers I've tried right now, Sense 4 just seems to do everything better (save for some limitations...like not being able to change the number of homescreens). I like it ^-^, vanilla ICS is obviously much better, but this is one of the better UI's I've used (better than touchwiz and blur, easily)
What about you????
I hate it. It's not better at anything I find, and in some places it just looks bad because Sense clashes so much with the default UI.
I liked the idea of Facebook contact intergration but it does a worse job at it than my Palm Pre did.
The only thing I really like about it is the weather clock.
salamanderjuice said:
I hate it. It's not better at anything I find, and in some places it just looks bad because Sense clashes so much with the default UI.
I liked the idea of Facebook contact intergration but it does a worse job at it than my Palm Pre did.
The only thing I really like about it is the weather clock.
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Do you mean like how one screen it's all sense like but then on the next it goes to to that minimalistic ICS blue and black???
Yes, that is a bit....odd indeed
It's crap. Ugly, doesn't add any features worth having (for me at least...), and it runs slow... Wish they'd release source, so we could get vanilla ICS. It annoys me that Google went to the trouble of making a good UI, and manufactures overlay stuff like this on top of it for no apparent reason...
tehpwnerer said:
It's crap. Ugly, doesn't add any features worth having (for me at least...), and it runs slow... Wish they'd release source, so we could get vanilla ICS. It annoys me that Google went to the trouble of making a good UI, and manufactures overlay stuff like this on top of it for no apparent reason...
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How is it slow for you? Menu's load up fast, scrolling between homescreens and in the app drawer is smooth. The only thing that's a bit slow is the actual HTC menu's like settings, or in messages. The scrolling is a bit choppy, but it seems it was intended that way as it always stays the same (the speed)
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Do you mean like how one screen it's all sense like but then on the next it goes to to that minimalistic ICS blue and black???
Yes, that is a bit....odd indeed
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No kidding right? Like when uninstalling an app?
Having vanilla ICS would be cool, but honestly I'm not a huge fan of the ICS UI design either. I don't mind Sense too much. I do wish HTC would release more skins though. Like, a lot more. It bothers me that they have a simple, built-in theme system, and don't really use it.
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No kidding right? Like when uninstalling an app?
Having vanilla ICS would be cool, but honestly I'm not a huge fan of the ICS UI design either. I don't mind Sense too much. I do wish HTC would release more skins though. Like, a lot more. It bothers me that they have a simple, built-in theme system, and don't really use it.
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Yes, that would be so badass if the Personalize app actually let you...PERSONALIZE your phone
Changing the colors of menu's and status bars and so forth.....that would be amazing
I really, truly hate it.
After using a Nexus One for 2 years, and then a Nexus S, the One V lags so much with better hardware that it's not even funny. Even the N1 with ICS after 2 years of use was way more snappy than my one v straight out of the box.
Thankfully MCR Vanilla makes it bearable, but it's still sense underneath, settings menus are different for no reason, the lockscreen is stupid (you cannot disable the lockscreen even if you add a pattern or pin, requiring two "unlocks"), and so on.
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CM9 cannot arrive soon enough for me
Hulk love vanilla. Hulk hate sense. Hulk smash phone.
Hulk sad.
Dislike it
In my opinion its a downgraded version of ics.. its to plain. Also if you havn't noticed sense.. just totally slows down the phone, its like Htc just tweaked the older versions of sense and never bothered finishing it.
I hate it it use too much RAM so my phone is to slow to play Games, i have de-sensed the myOnev Rom v3.0 and is much more faster und you have al least 140 mb free RAM with Sense i had 80 mb free RAM
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I hate it ,because it use too much RAM so my phone is to slow to play Games :thumbdown:, i have de-sensed the myOnev Rom v3.0 and is much more faster und you have at least 140 mb free RAM with Sense i had 80 mb free RAM
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I like Sense a lot actually. my biggest problem is the load it puts on the ram for the phone. Friend stream is probably my biggest draw to Sense. The integration of facebook and twitter is done in a way that I really really like. I also like the integrated mail thread that shows you mail from all your accounts at once. I guess to sum it up I like sense for the widgets, and although you can get some sense widgets on other ui's/launchers, you cant get friend stream without sense. Im running CM9 now and I miss friend stream. but I agree with the general feeling that sense is bulky and puts too much strain on virtual memory to be a great ui
Idk what you guys are complaining about I love Sense.
I just got my one V on Friday and I like this phone....alot. My Nexus S was Sh**ty and I hated stock Android.
Sense makes the phone more attractive in my opinion and adds more flare to the phone...I still hate Stock Android
on ICS but it does look loads better than Cupcake-Gingerbread.
I have 80 Apps total
253 MB of my 708 Internal Storage used
Currently about 181 MB ram used and 181 MB free
and it is working fine.
HTC Sense is sexy
For power users it will obviously suck.....for average users the sense ui is just perfect...better than the stock android
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cybervibin said:
For power users it will obviously suck.....for average users the sense ui is just perfect...better than the stock android
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+1
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I love Sense so much, I rooted and installed cm9 two days after I bought this phone. As soon as the backlight issue is resolved, I'll be flashing cm10.
I think it doesn't look that bad, but sometimes is super laggy, and the stock android ui made by Google completely blows it away(that's why I'm on cm10 )!
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Dude you just totally posted on a 4 month old thread. Leave it dead please lol.
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