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guys , i've tried several ics roms over few months and they are either buggy or laggy , so my question is : is there a rom for arc that doesn't laggg.
i've already tried JJ's in addition to some other roms , it always starts nice and smooth at first , but after a while it gets laggy
currently using JJ's Hybrid 3.1 with about 140 mbs on internal ram (using link2sd). and overclocked at 1.4 GHz
so is there anything that will work or should face the inevitable and revert back to Gingerbread
also : do you guys think , that jellybean roms , by any chance are(will be) smoother than ics
None, i tried all of them, from custom to stock. They seem fast and responsive at first, then i siwtch between a few apps then try to use the keyboard .... BAM, 10-20 secs lag.
All the ICS roms lag like hell in the moment when i need my phone the most (write a note, call a number, answer a call).
I am back to GB until CM10 goes a little stable, if it keeps the same lag as ICS then i will go back to GB forever on this device.
codestation said:
None, i tried all of them, from custom to stock. They seem fast and responsive at first, then i siwtch between a few apps then try to use the keyboard .... BAM, 10-20 secs lag.
All the ICS roms lag like hell in the moment when i need my phone the most (write a note, call a number, answer a call).
I am back to GB until CM10 goes a little stable, if it keeps the same lag as ICS then i will go back to GB forever on this device.
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yeah , that's what i thought :|
i feel you bro , i think i'll go ahead , switch back to GB and finally , .. admit that my single core arc is too crappy for ICS.
DAMN YOU sony ,if it weren't so sexy , i would never have bought it.
Oh THE IRONY , back when i bought it , the ugly S2 was like "70$ only" more expensive than the arc !!!!
I would never go for S2 over Arc S, if I could choose again. But yes, Gingerbread runs much smoother than ICS, but I think that new ICS update is not that terrible, and I never had any "few seconds" lag, no matter how many apps I start one after another...
@ningen90: lol at the "DAMN YOU SONY, if it weren't so sexy" haha sorry, i was also victimized by its sexiness I also tried to scout for an ICS candidate, but there are always comments that it lags, so im running GB at the moment. some people say its ok, but most of the replies are about lag damn you sexy arc... hahaha
Actually ICS wasn't optimized for performance ...it is going to lag from time to time even on A high end devixe ...try Jelly Bean ...it is the evolution of ICS to performance .
Sent from my Xperia Arc S using Tapatalk 2
Any of you tried arconium? I know some ICS roms lag, but with arconium im pretty happy
I got an S2 too btw
Try Jelly Sandwich, mate. With XArc kernel, of course.
Sent from my CM9'd Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
no chance of any smoothness of ICS on ARC
ICS was meant to run properly on devices with ram greater than 512mb. With only 512mb of ram it can only hold the necessary system applications of ANDROID. SO while running ICS on arc it RUNS SMOOTHLY FIRST but afterwards the apps get CACHED it starts lagging
REALLY LIKE HELL (with only 100-150mb ram gets left what do you expect its PERFORMANCE).SO i don't think that there is any possibility of running ICS smoothly forever on ARC.:crying:
JELLY BEAN on the other hand will also be requiring HIGH SPEC DEVICES..SO don't expect it also run without any lag on arc.
I don't know why SONY ERICSSON only put 512mb of ram in all it's 2011 xperia devices while also assuring to RUN OUT THE ICS UPDATE knowing the fact that ICS requires a higher RAM value.
I like the INTERFACE of ICS but to use it on the ARC IS TO GIVE UP the speed and performance.I used it for a month(tried every ics and cm9 rom)
but was too too UPSET. SO gone back to the GINGER BREAD ROM(it's best for the xperia arc).:good:
TO USE ICS SMOOTHLY I SUGGEST TO BUY ANOTHER DEVICE WITH HIGH END SPECS.
Jellybean
ningen90 said:
guys , i've tried several ics roms over few months and they are either buggy or laggy , so my question is : is there a rom for arc that doesn't laggg.
i've already tried JJ's in addition to some other roms , it always starts nice and smooth at first , but after a while it gets laggy
currently using JJ's Hybrid 3.1 with about 140 mbs on internal ram (using link2sd). and overclocked at 1.4 GHz
so is there anything that will work or should face the inevitable and revert back to Gingerbread
also : do you guys think , that jellybean roms , by any chance are(will be) smoother than ics
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Jellybean rom is far better than ICS. No laggy....butter smooth. :laugh:
I installed FXP's CM10. It was awesome experience. But the rom is in alpha stage....but we can use it as daily rom. :good:
Hope we will get jellybean stable version early.
Go thru this link for more details on FXP's Jelly bean - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780316
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The lagging is down to free memory - FYI I had terrible lag on GB too before I realised. You really need to be careful what you allow to run in the background.
Basically, you need to make sure there's somewhere around 100 MB free ram most of the time to guarantee a lag-free experience. You can use ES Task Manager to see what apps are consuming memory, and the 'running' tab in Manage Apps to see the services. Bear in mind widgets can be very memory hungry, particularly if you have 5 screens full of them; it's often best to use something like Beautiful Widgets which allows you to have various different widgets running, but they consume the same memory as one.
Just like on Windows, some apps pointlessly run at startup, consuming your system resources even when they're not being used - LivewareManager is one example. Worse still, these apps often restart automatically if killed. You can use SystemCleanup and/or Autorun Manager to stop this behaviour.
You may find alternatives to apps that need to run in the background also. For example, there's a taking caller ID app called eCID which needs to run all the time and consumes about 30 MB. I switched to a very similar app, Spoken Caller ID, and that just starts when the phone receives a call, and stops after it has done its job. The same is true of antivirus apps and others.
Some apps need to run as an "accessibility service", which is also always running in the background. Lightflow is an example of this, as is Tasker and some SmartWatch notification apps. Work out if you really need these. For example, I quickly realised that Tasker could effectively do the job my battery saver app and lightflow were doing all by itself.
If you use an alternative keyboard, the regular one keeps running in the background. Also, if you've replaced the TTS engine with one that sounds less robotic, it might be the case that one app is running for each installed voice. The solution here is to 'freeze' those using Titanium Backup or SystemCleanup.
I don't have any lag on my Arc, thanks to reducing what apps are running all the time to just the ones I actually want.
KartzXDA said:
Jellybean rom is far better than ICS. No laggy....butter smooth. :laugh:
I installed FXP's CM10. It was awesome experience. But the rom is in alpha stage....but we can use it as daily rom. :good:
Hope we will get jellybean stable version early.
Go thru this link for more details on FXP's Jelly bean - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780316
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yeah , i've been keeping my eyes on CM10 for a while now , but it's still far from complete , i think i'll wait a lil' bit more, thanx anyway
amankumar2508007 said:
ICS was meant to run properly on devices with ram greater than 512mb. With only 512mb of ram it can only hold the necessary system applications of ANDROID. SO while running ICS on arc it RUNS SMOOTHLY FIRST but afterwards the apps get CACHED it starts lagging
REALLY LIKE HELL (with only 100-150mb ram gets left what do you expect its PERFORMANCE).SO i don't think that there is any possibility of running ICS smoothly forever on ARC.:crying:
JELLY BEAN on the other hand will also be requiring HIGH SPEC DEVICES..SO don't expect it also run without any lag on arc.
I don't know why SONY ERICSSON only put 512mb of ram in all it's 2011 xperia devices while also assuring to RUN OUT THE ICS UPDATE knowing the fact that ICS requires a higher RAM value.
I like the INTERFACE of ICS but to use it on the ARC IS TO GIVE UP the speed and performance.I used it for a month(tried every ics and cm9 rom)
but was too too UPSET. SO gone back to the GINGER BREAD ROM(it's best for the xperia arc).:good:
TO USE ICS SMOOTHLY I SUGGEST TO BUY ANOTHER DEVICE WITH HIGH END SPECS.
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Totally Disagree.
just Have a Look on CM9 & CM10.
They Do not Lag.
Its A Problem Of Sony,Because Sony Did Not Optimised The ICS Rom.
So They Lagged.
Our Xperia Arc.Can Run It Smoother.:silly:
Only Thing It Requires A Good Rom Dev. Like Fxp.
Latest 587 firmware is far better, but yes, you always need to freeze unwanted services. It's not always Sony fault, when you use maps and quit the app, there is part of it that stay in background, like location service, same for the store.
Those Google apps are among the worse thing, they dont quit, stay in background, eating memory and cpu.
Another cause of laginess is the constant log writing, everything is log, i use CM7 on a Desire and there is much less logs. I don't know if there is a means to stop logging, i read a lot about logcat, but nothing useful.
And remember to always quit an application by the menu, if there is one or by return. using home simply put it on background.
ningen90 said:
i've already tried JJ's in addition to some other roms , it always starts nice and smooth at first , but after a while it gets laggy
currently using JJ's Hybrid 3.1 with about 140 mbs on internal ram (using link2sd). and overclocked at 1.4 GHz ...
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ram and internal storage are two very different things, you seem to be confusing them - link2sd gives you more free internal storage, it does nothing for your ram. I'd bet your problem is free ram.
now i'm using JellySandwich 3.3 with infamous kernel, with link2sd and a lot of apps installed, the HTC keyboard (i kind of love it), and the perfomance it's good, so as the battery life (about 10 hours with heavy usage, games, wifi browsing...) the only thing with this rom, it's the scrolling on some heavy web pages (like phonearena), it's not so smooth like stock rom, or another ones that i try.
My Xperia Arc has ~220MB free of ram with locked bootloader and it's un-rooted, and I'm on ICS 4.0.4 with firmware 4.1.B.0.578.
I use stock rom, and stock kernel, and I'm using Apex launcher
Did you try this??'
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Guys,
The Vendor folder exist on both devices, but on LT15 Firmware the vendor is a partition and include apps, different from LT18 where the folder is only for configuration and is inside SYSTEM partition.
Because of this is that LT15 has a small SYSTEM partition when flash the LT15 firmware.
What I did was flash LT15 firmware, make a backup of SYSTEM and VENDOR folder with ADB and TAR, and then flash LT18 SYSTEM and USERDATA partition only (with FlashTool). This remakes the partition table and resize SYSTEM and DATA partition to ~400mb.
Than after flash SYSTEM and USERDATA from LT18, I format the SYSTEM partition and restore both SYSTEM e VENDOR backup that I make, placing the configuration files of VENDOR partition in folder VENDOR of SYSTEM partition, and moving the APKs from APP folder in VENDOR to APP folder on SYSTEM root.
This worked perfectly, and now I have all APKs in SYSTEM/APP and the partition size of LT18 firmware with LT15 firmware.
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I did it on my arc and it runs fine and have 420 mb for apps, no llags, no frezess, and i think more batery life... try it!, but i didn't instal any tweak, or external widget manager or apps for beautify, i'm very happy with it.
Should i update my phone to ICS from Gingerbread??
Or its not a good idea?
Performance vs looks
IF you really want a beautiful experience(WITH LAG) of the interface(FOR A LITTLE WHILE) in lieu of the OVERALL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE then please UPDATE TO ICS.
BUT if you want to have a better experience(WITHOUT ANY LAG) with all of the phone's feature THEN STAY WITH THE GB.:angel:
I have tried almost every ICS ROM for the ARC and almost every ROM HAS A LAG(in the beginning it doesn't come into action but after some time when caching of system applications start it's the most HORRIBLE experience with the phone and sometimes you can't even use your phone for call or messaging (LIKE IT'S LAGGING LIKE HEELLL) ):crying:
SO it's upto you..what i think
I AM BACK TO GB FROM ICS
REST IS YOUR CHOICE:good:
plz hit thanks if i helped
ICS consumes more resources, there's no way round that, but a properly configured Arc can easily run ICS with ZERO lag. You do need to be careful what apps you have running in the background - see this post for more details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30809767&postcount=11
Personally, I would never go back to GB. My phone is so much more stable on ICS, you can run a number of tablet-only apps, battery life is significantly improved, etc.
I've not tried the latest Sony rom, but previous ones have not been great - too bloated and sluggish. Custom roms are IMHO definitely the way to go for ICS on the Arc.
Update?
Just Update to the latest .578 ICS and if you feel the device is slow/irresponsive use Bloatware Remover to make RAM consumption better
Xperia Arc Can Handle ICS , Great as GB.
It depends Upon the Developer Of it.
I say go for a try
If i install Sony's official ICS will i lose my root, and will i have to install different kernel? I am currently using doomLord's kernel.
Hi
To upgrade or not to upgrade…
Few days ago I come back to old GB 2.3.4 simply because I have some unfinished business with some games I didn’t finish while on GB – and also sort of compare to what was like to be on GB again comparing to ICS… (anyways it takes me @ 15min to switch to any Android ver. And with CWM backup it a matter of minutes to be back on favorite ROM…)
Man I felt like I was driving on handbrake all this time… you feel like flying fast… no LAG whatsoever it feels great again… speed wise.
From the moment ICS come out I already flashed it via flashtool and rooted, immediately I started to try out different kinds of ROM modes out there… tried like maybe 10 of them (could only use some as I need to stay with locked BootLoader… so no custom kernels.) Anyway after so many months of playing around – the only ROM which suited my needs was JJROM 3.1 – also the look of it is great for me… so I stayed with it… flashed XPERIA S Walkman port + some other little add-ons which made my ROM complete…
Now somebody wrote here that you need to be very careful what you run on ICS ROM in order to be sure it can run smoothly enough… and this is so true…
When buying originally the phone (ARC S) it was supposed to serve me like a little computer machine while I’m away – Internet, mail, GPS, banking, photos, music, movies, YouTube, FB… etc, etc… it supposed to be very flexible and have enough power to do many things with many programs as possible… now with GB I noticed that I’m able to do many more things at once while lag-free then with ICS… I didn’t buy phone just to make calls and SMS – as many users tent to use their smartphones for… for me it have to do some rather heavy duty stuff…
Unfortunately ICS is very memory hungry and I noticed that with time after installing all favorite apps it starts to lag… you don’t notice till you have some reference like trying again GB with the some programs… don’t fall into adverts of different ROM makes that their ROMs are so great and fast – lag free and have so much RAM free – and blah blah… they flash fresh ROM, take few screenshots of fresh install with so much RAM free (zero apps running), then upload some clips on YT so you are amazed at the smoothness… BUT the real life starts after somebody installs their 10+ favorite apps and then can test the ROM in real life… and most of the time you realize that the difference between “before and after” is like night and day… ROM becomes unusable… or lags terribly.
I will be going back to my beloved ICS JJROM3.1 (after I finish the games I can’t on ICS) but I realize that it will never be as fast as GB… I just love the HOLO layout and look of ICS… I miss already some of the ICS options and functions, but the speed of GB is just amazing so I will stay on it to enjoy a bit longer… ha. I guess someone needs to find this “in between” ROM, where he can use as many of his apps as possible and still have reasonable speed left. I have running all GG services, FB Firendcaster, Forum app, weather, RSS reader, maps, Email etc etc and no lag whatsoever – games load fast and run perfectly without any glitches… while playing NOVA, DeadSpace, Shadow Guardian etc I still receive mail and forum/FB/RSS notices in the background and games don’t stop or even shatter for a moment, you don’t feel like there is any problem with having all this background services going on… well with ICS is a bit different, I can still run the some games (exept SG)… with this services, apps etc but it will take longer to load and while receiving notifications games shutter for few sec…
I found GB ROM called JellyBreadV2Arc which is modified version of stock GB which is super for my needs (has removed all FB bloatware + other tweaks) runs really fast…
Anyway – don’t know why I started all this… I guess the question to flash ICS or not is very hard to answer – if you want to try something new and are willing to sacrifice some gaming and a little speed then try it out… there is always way back…
One thing I noticed immediately with GB is battery life, is not as good as on ICS and charging takes longer on GB… which bugs me a bit… I know that with different kernel would improve but I don’t want to unlock BL… so needs to be that way.
ics it's no so bad, i really never used GB too much, but is said that it's better for battery life. I'm happy with ICS.
When I bought my Arc S LT18i, the ICS update was already available. I started using it with gingerbread but then, when I already had the apps I wanted, I decided to update my phone to ICS (4.1.A.0.562). Everything was ok until I booted my phone for the second time after the update. Couldn't unlock my sim and it just freezed. Had this problem for a month. I was so mad! I booted into safe mode, restored using PC Companion but the problem didn't go away. But then came the 2nd ICS update (4.1.B.0.431) and it just fixed things. The 3rd update (4.1.B.0.587) didn't bring any changes as far as I can see. But I still recommend you update to ICS. Or just flash CM9 stable.
Let's just not ask people, try it and see if you like it. Don't get me wrong but we can't help you as we all see ICS differently so you must try it out and see if it suits your everyday life. Also if you don't like it, you can always flash back to GB. Getting the root is simple enough and to find it, Google. Right now I suggest getting ICS because in my point of view, ICS is fast, sleek and beautiful.
badboyofpersia said:
Should i update my phone to ICS from Gingerbread??
Or its not a good idea?
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Let me tell you now to get perfect ics. Once updated to ics, root using eroot toolkit n then install cwm using x-parts. Then go to cwm, flash odexed notification led fix, flash jb adreno drivers. Then boot phone. Now ul have a lot of smoothness and notification bug won't be there. U can then also install titanium backup n remove bloatware for even more speed. For the WiFi dropping problem, flash kernel of .13 firmware. Then ul have the ultimate ics experience. Sony's ics update is incomplete. Do all this n then it'll be a proper update!
Nice Review ,TNKS
What You Think ? Stock ROM Is THE BEST OR NOT ?
amankumar2508007 said:
IF you really want a beautiful experience(WITH LAG) of the interface(FOR A LITTLE WHILE) in lieu of the OVERALL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE then please UPDATE TO ICS.
BUT if you want to have a better experience(WITHOUT ANY LAG) with all of the phone's feature THEN STAY WITH THE GB.:angel:
I have tried almost every ICS ROM for the ARC and almost every ROM HAS A LAG(in the beginning it doesn't come into action but after some time when caching of system applications start it's the most HORRIBLE experience with the phone and sometimes you can't even use your phone for call or messaging (LIKE IT'S LAGGING LIKE HEELLL) ):crying:
SO it's upto you..what i think
I AM BACK TO GB FROM ICS
REST IS YOUR CHOICE:good:
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gius321 said:
What You Think ? Stock ROM Is THE BEST OR NOT ?
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Try it out yourself. Different people have different opinion on different ROMs.
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i had xperia x10 which lags too much due to short of ram then i shifted to desire hd as its have large ram but still it lags esp during games
i have almost 870 mb free internal memory and almost 380 free mb ram then why its lagging ?
Which games are you playing? And which ROM are you on?
Many CPU intensive games nowdays are built for multi-core CPU's and since our DHD is only a single core device it has some performance issues..
I think it depend on type of game you play and type of rom you use. If you use official rom of DHD and play some games built for, there's no lags.
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kamso said:
I think it depend on type of game you play and type of rom you use. If you use official rom of DHD and play some games built for, there's no lags.
Sent from my Light Tab 2 using xda premium
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i am using official rom android ver 2.2 and games like racing moto. temple run infect in temple run when i close the game my phone is just like dying i have to restart it again
Why are you using Android 2.2 froyo? You have to upgrade your rom to 2.3.x gingerbread. I think with this you'll have a better RAM management and be able to play easily game like racing moto. It's my opinion.
kamso said:
Why are you using Android 2.2 froyo? You have to upgrade your rom to 2.3.x gingerbread. I think with this you'll have a better RAM management and be able to play easily game like racing moto. It's my opinion.
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coz my phone belongs to united arab emirates region and for uae htc didnt release ota update when i mannually check for update it says your phone is uptodate. my phone is also not rooted as i am not advanced user and dont have knowledge of rom etc thatswhy not able to update through root etc
Aïe Aïe!! Sorry for you. I think you have to root your DHD and flash some custom roms to benefit for all your phone can do. Go and see the topics for that.
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i am using official rom android ver 2.2 and games like racing moto. temple run infect in temple run when i close the game my phone is just like dying i have to restart it again
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Well, our desire hd isn't that bad now that it won't run temple run, in fact it can play lots of games much more heavier much more efficiently.but you really need to root your phone first. Just go to android development section and read the sticky threads..
( before doing that, I would suggest you reset your phone once and install games and apps again and see..., the lag might be due to corrupt files too.....)
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda app-developers app
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Well, our desire hd isn't that bad now that it won't run temple run, in fact it can play lots of games much more heavier much more efficiently.but you really need to root your phone first. Just go to android development section and read the sticky threads..
( before doing that, I would suggest you reset your phone once and install games and apps again and see..., the lag might be due to corrupt files too.....)
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda app-developers app
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problem resolved .. basically it was task killer which was killing the games i have added all games to ignore list after that its run fine.
about rooting. i have tried z4 and visionary for temp root both gave successful message at the end but when i checked my phone it was not rooted.. however for permanent root the procedure is very difficult for me as i am not a advanced user all the procedures gone over my head so i decided not to take risk.. if you have any easy one click root method then please share with me.
regards
komalsaeed said:
problem resolved .. basically it was task killer which was killing the games i have added all games to ignore list after that its run fine.
about rooting. i have tried z4 and visionary for temp root both gave successful message at the end but when i checked my phone it was not rooted.. however for permanent root the procedure is very difficult for me as i am not a advanced user all the procedures gone over my head so i decided not to take risk.. if you have any easy one click root method then please share with me.
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Well good your problem got resolved, congrats .. And given your situation, you being a girl, well the only thing that you would be doing after rooting is flashing newer and fancy roms some with bugs and some with less bugs, and I don't quite see a girl doing that on her phone all the time, girls got lots of other stuff to care for.. So my advice, stay away from rooting as long as you don't really run into some functional problem with official Rom which is very less likely, so switch on your Desire HD, click Temple run, and start Running and enjoy your cell
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Well good your problem got resolved, congrats .. And given your situation, you being a girl, well the only thing that you would be doing after rooting is flashing newer and fancy roms some with bugs and some with less bugs, and I don't quite see a girl doing that on her phone all the time, girls got lots of other stuff to care for.. So my advice, stay away from rooting as long as you don't really run into some functional problem with official Rom which is very less likely, so switch on your Desire HD, click Temple run, and start Running and enjoy your cell
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As a girl who flashes daily, I could be insulted, or I could just laugh...I think I will pick the latter.
Hey guys, I've had my play for just over a year, I've installed countless roms and had a ball doing it. Unfortunately I think the old girl is struggling to keep up with the last couple of custom roms, cm9.1 and mark phyton's un/official ICS rom. The latter is the one I am running now and even after a reinstall it is nearly unusable, it's extremely laggy and freezes on apps like facebook, kindle and youtube. Ram sits at 30-40mb free, I have link2sd running to free up internal memory and am overclocked to 1.2ghz with setcpu. I know ICS is pushing the limits of the play's capabilities but I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be this bad can anyone suggest anything to try to get better performance please?
ICS roms are not suitable for the play. If u want better performance use a GB rom instead
hypestylez said:
ICS roms are not suitable for the play. If u want better performance use a GB rom instead
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facebook uses alot of resources...also markphytons unofficial rom is quite good I use to have around 130 mb free ram...the rom comes with a very nice app called pimp my rom which it has a good few options into speeding up the rom very handy....
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use my signature as a reference.
I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!
I'm running PA 3.65 on lk 7. Oc'd to 1.3 ghz. Phone seems pretty fluid to me. Definitely there is a difference between my phone and say, a Galaxy s3, but it's not to where it makes me feel my phone is obsolete. Plus, the gnex has a great development base with not only Roms but kernels as well. This extends the lives of our devices greatly. I plan to stick and wait it out a while longer myself.
My advice, delve deeper into your gnex and try some more combinations and tweaks. See if there's something you could do. Currently I've been on a governor binge--trying all the various governors, looking for the best for me, battery-wise and performance. Overall I'm happy.
Hope this helps.
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lourivellini said:
I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!
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I'm on stock 4.2.2 which is rooted and I've modified certain elements using Paul O'Brien's MoDaCo Toolkit (which uses the Xposed Framework Mod). I think about upgrading from time to time but never because I feel I need to. I am more than happy with my Galaxy Nexus (bearing in mind I don't play intensive games).
I would wait a bit longer and see what the LG Optimus G2 is like and maybe upgrade early 2014. The next Nexus might be released in November anyway.
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if u want the S4, go for the Snapdragon version coz it has more development goin on
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My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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mrgnex said:
My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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+1 to that
maybe time slowed down for him xD
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"Upgrade" to android 4.1 and your phone will suddenly seem like less of a bag.
Seraz007 said:
+1 to that
maybe time slowed down for him xD
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At least he can try
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mrgnex said:
My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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I don't think the phone is really slow, it's just that the amount of memory available is starting to be a problem. When you have plenty of memory the phone is fine, but between the OS, Chrome, the new Hangouts, the new Music player, and whatever else you have running you can quickly run out of memory and when all your background apps are restarting the phone is definitely not smooth.
Since 4.2.2 the Gnex started to be more laggy. If you use a custom rom and kernel (i.e. CM 10.1 based rom and fancy or franco or ak kernel) you can indeed tweak it up so it feels quite fast again, then again, the battery drains like crazy, a solution for this is buy an extended 3800mAh battery (I've one in my Nexus and it at least doubles the battery life, means you EASILY get through the day, even with overclocked settings and heavy use).
Imo it's still a very nice device.. But don't expect quad core performance from a 2011 dual core phone
My Note 2 with AOSP 4.2.2 rom absolutely is a beast and battery life is awesome (stock 3100mAh battery).
So long story short, if you overall still like your nexus: install CM 10.1 and i.e. fancy kernel, overclock it to about 1.4GHz, get the extended 3800mAh battery and it will make a big difference already to stock.
If you have enough money aside and feel like having something new, get a SGS4 or HTC One (awesome design), or if you like a big screen on top of that like me, I definitely recommend the Note 2 (it's considerably cheaper than the SGS4 and in terms of performance with irl use the difference is not really noticeable), or wait for the Note 3 .
When is a downgrade an upgrade?
lourivellini said:
I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!
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Before you write your phone off, try going back to 4.1.2. I've been using MiNCO v5 (which was my favourite 4.1.2 ROM, comes with franco's milestone 6 and is super stable and minimal.) Just flash v2.1 of this transformation pack as if it were a gapps package (actual gapps are already built into the ROM)
Your phone will have all the 4.2.2 goodies (except toggles and LS widgets, but there's an app for that) with none of the slow sluggish feel.
Try it. I promise you won't be disappointed.
P.S This mod and crossbreeder are the only 2 additions I'd STRONGLY reccomend. The first unifies the "holo" theme of stock JB (read the thread, it's awesome!) and the second does some amazing things which include system wide adblocking and smooth DNS caching just for starters.
P.P.S If you go back to 4.1.2 just make sure you have the latest radio for your region and DON'T RESTORE SYSTEM APPS FROM TITANIUM BACKUP.
thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.
lourivellini said:
thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.
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Try greenify instead of faffing about with freeze and unfreeze in TB. Also, this might be the radio you want, I'm not sure if you're gsm or cdma on AT&T (I'm from the UK) so the best way is to check in your settings on your current setup:
Settings>About phone>Baseband version
Though I'd highly recommend reading the thread just to check, it's amazing how big the change is when using an out of date radio.
pfmiller said:
I don't think the phone is really slow, it's just that the amount of memory available is starting to be a problem. When you have plenty of memory the phone is fine, but between the OS, Chrome, the new Hangouts, the new Music player, and whatever else you have running you can quickly run out of memory and when all your background apps are restarting the phone is definitely not smooth.
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I'm no expert but it seems to me that Android devices are similar to Windows in respect to slowing down over time. I think the complexity of today's apps contribute greatly to a phones alitity to keep up but not as much as you may think. I uses chache cleaner ng to get rid of a good portion of garbage on a regular basis and once in awile a fresh flash really speeds things up again. Don't forget about all those apps we think we need but never use. Get rid of them.
I ran errands today Streaming Slacker Radio, running navigation, and answering and making phone calls and my phone never game me a reason to think it was time to a new one.
Here is my solution - I suffered the same problem like you.
First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
The problem is that the storage is not trimmed properly. You can use Lagfix to trim storage. Try it, it will work.
But the real solution is to factory reset your mobile (I mean wiping everything, restore the original system and root again). This way the storage will be trimmed too and it will be blazing fast again. If you leave at least 3GB free storage, the slowdown won't happen too soon again. Although a 4.2.2 ROM will then be fast too, the real speed you will only get with 4.1.2 (I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
That's my experience and I won't change my ROM until Android 5 is out... :fingers-crossed:
I get where you're coming from, but the GNex has a dual-core processer, with 1gb of RAM, if its feeling slow because you've been playing with you're friends quad-core phones with twice the RAM, then its definitely time to upgrade because no matter what ROM or Kernel you use, you're going to notice the difference. IMO I love my GNex, I'm running AOKP 4.2.2 and I couldn't be happier for the moment. However, when the Nexus 5 comes out I'll be the first in line.
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(I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
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Do you have a download link? I can only find that ROM for other devices than GNex.
I'm coming from Liquid Smooth 2.5 and running CM 10.0 since a few days. So far so good, but I'm missing a few features of Liquid Smooth and would love to give it a try again... Thanks!!
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First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
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I know how Android memory management works, and that's exactly what I'm taking about. When apps get stopped it makes the phone slower because the apps need to be started again when you go back to them.
hudl said:
Here is my solution - I suffered the same problem like you.
First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
The problem is that the storage is not trimmed properly. You can use Lagfix to trim storage. Try it, it will work.
But the real solution is to factory reset your mobile (I mean wiping everything, restore the original system and root again). This way the storage will be trimmed too and it will be blazing fast again. If you leave at least 3GB free storage, the slowdown won't happen too soon again. Although a 4.2.2 ROM will then be fast too, the real speed you will only get with 4.1.2 (I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
That's my experience and I won't change my ROM until Android 5 is out... :fingers-crossed:
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Trimming /data trims the storage as well as storage is /data/media. I don't think every phone is affected by this trim problem as they don't all use the same emmc (see the trim thread in this forum).
I also agree with you 100% that 4.1.2 performed a lot faster for me than 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus. I don't think the hardware of the Galaxy Nexus or even the Nexus 7 fully handled Android 4.2 smoothly. Software optimizations could improve that. Actually on my HTC One on the GE (AOSP like) version of 4.2.2, the UI could get a little jittery.
While I agree with you that Android killing apps is normal when it runs low on memory, I can confirm CM10 killed apps a lot less often than CM10.1. Even with the memory leak patches implemented earlier this year into CM10.1, my RAM would get low enough that the lowmemorykiller would kick into gear a lot more often than CM10. I don't think this is the only cause of slowness in Android 4.2 but it can contribute. The most likely candidate is systemUI which Google changed how it works as in 4.2 it shows the background on the launcher in recents instead of overlaying recents on top of your current app. As that has to load the wallpaper from the launcher it may slow down if it has to pull it from memory.
PS. You say you won't change your ROM until Android 5 is out but 4.3 may fix a lot of the issues in 4.2 and the updated bluetooth support is a must have for users with Low Energy devices.
lourivellini said:
thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.
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U live in the US? then u should've no problem gettin the snapdragon version
Snapdragon version is the quad core one not exynos( Octa core)
More devving for the Quad Core one since samsung didn't release exynos source code
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