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(Q) Rooted , boot loader unlocked now what ?

I have had a good look around the forums but still feel like a small fish in a big pond
I would like my play to be lean without all the bloat do I need to flash a new rom / kernel for this ? would like it to run faster , I am into games had a stack of emulators before I rooted and unlocked what benefits can I expect now and what programs / mods should I be doing in general ?
I apologise I know this has probably all been asked before but this is the first time I have messed with a phone and every thread I look at confuses me more .

i found that the stock rom works for me the best in terms of gaming and even normal use. i have .58 rom + Samsung Galaxy SII theme on it and it works smooth for me for now i also using Rom Toolbox to uninstall bloatware and block ads in programs. whenever i installed some custom roms, they were great, have awsome functionality, but i always back to a stock one where i had no problems with compatibility in hardware or software...

Ok, thats what many are asking right now!
If you are a hardcore pro gamer and you only use your play solely for play games using the PS certified pads then don't bother coming here. Cause I can tell you you are gonna have a bad time trying to find a decent hack, Custom ROM and ICS firmware with a stable and optimised Game pad compatibility. True i can say some are better and some are worse. Many ROMs fully suppor emulators. However No Custom ROM has a proper working driver where all those HD games by gamloft can run on.
So now i said all the disadvantages then here are some pf the pros
Rooting, unlocking your phone opens many capabilities. You can flash ICS which is the latets android operating system on the market and not available throguh offical update on Xperia play. You can learn more about how the phone works and everyday you get the chance to try out cool features that the devs around here make or implement. ICS is fast and smooth. Not so nice with the gamepads. But fast! Performance on it is excelllent. Battery life sometime an issue though. Unlocking bootloader and rooting would mean you can flash complex kernals that can allow you to Over Clock your CPU safely to 1.8ghz which is almost double the speed you would get on stock firmware. Some say it's useless when you can't use that speed to play hardcore games but thats not true. The OC speed has given me personally faster video playback and most points and All the normall games on the pla market generally load much faster,
I hope this gave you what you were looking for.
Good luck and happy rooting

Cheers I am not concerned about the HD games the only marketplace one I play is GTA 3 I am more concerned about emulators , so can you point me in the direction of a good kernel and rom to accomplish this and give me a few pointers of how to change them , i have flash toll but I am kind of lost at this point .

Try Gin2Ics, emulators work, it's stable and unarguably the best Gingerbread rom there is, in my opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631144

Well i am going to give it a go , wish me luck

Which files do i need from the repository the rom and what else ?

So I am rom and Kernel successful but now my wifi does not turn on

I've tried many of the ROMs and kernel combinations but so far gin2ics with stock seems the most enjoyable. You don't need an unlocked bootloader for this.
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[Q] Are the relatively newer ROMS too heavy for Desire Z ?

Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !

Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!

demkantor said:
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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Task Killer is not the issue, as I only installed it the other day .. The condition was same before as well ..

d_gkal said:
i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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I dont think it will make any difference .. I've tried many different ROMs, and its always the same condition with all ... Sometimes my phone become *so* unresponsive that I just feel like smashing it on the ground ! (When I really get upset!)
Also, on another note, when I open Advanced Task Killer, it shows me the amount of free RAM on the top .. Most of the times this value is between 60 MB ~ 100 MB, and sometimes between 100 MB ~ 140 MB .. If never seen this value go above 135 MB or so ... And Desire Z is supposed to have 512 MB of RAM

just full wipe and reflash the rom

d_gkal said:
just full wipe and reflash the rom
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If I do that, it will initially be fast .. Even if I install all my apps on the first day, it will still be okay in terms of speed ... But give it a week, it eventually becomes slow .. very slow! .. And the odd thing is, during this week, I don't necessary install/uninstall anything .. the phone just ****s itself in somehow ... And then from then on, it remains slow, no matter what ...
I open Google Maps, takes like 15 seconds to open .. takes another 60 seconds to go to Google Navigation, and then further lags after that ..
Basically there's a lag in *everything* !
Is there a way I can see what is slowing down the phone ?!
Also, is it true or not whether an older phone, such as Desire Z, can or cannot handle a relatively newer Android version ROM ? Maybe this is why the latest Android versions are NOT officially available for phones many times, because the manufacturer knows the device cannot handle that newer Android version ?

If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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ahmadka said:
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
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i had a play with elitemod ics the other day & it was defiantly slower than the GB version... it was using more or less double the ram which i suspect is the real problem.....

Yes its true the newer versions are more hungry. We touched on it in one of the andromadus threads recently. I believe the issue to be the cpu. The nexus s has the same amount of ram as us and although its not as good on there as the gnex, its still good. Having bumped my lower cpu limit a notch, its much better. I also tried a few upper limits and found that 1200 to be best as it suffers with animation under that.
But then all dz's are different. Stay on your rom and bump up the lower limits a few clicks and let us know what you think.
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I've noticed the slowdowns happening with negligible CPU load and no memory constraints. I suspect a problem with the kernel. At the times it happens, the phone seems to be just doing *nothing*.

demkantor said:
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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Is there any other thing I can try apart from logcat ? I installed Watchdog a few hours ago, but so far it hasn't reported anything out of the way ..
What does have ext partitions do ? How does that speed up the OS ?
Also, I'm probably going to be re-flashing another ROM soon, so please suggest me a ROM ... I'm looking for maximum longterm stability and responsiveness here, so even if a ROM isn't the newest or the most feature-filled, I can still try it out ..
And what is Superwipe (read it in another thread) ?
Normally, when I restore stuff after installing a ROM, I download a fresh copy of the app from the Store, and only restore the app's data using titanium .. is this okay ?

For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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demkantor said:
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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I'm assuming you're referring to this thread: http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Well this is the ROM I'm currently using, which I flashed about 2 months ago, which is giving me all these performance issues ..
I went through the first few pages, but I didn't find any instructions on 4EXT ... The only thing I found was in the OP's FAQ in the start, which said that you should apply ext by downloading 4ext from Play Store, if you get lags ..
Anywhere else I can look ?

Look in general section, somewhere in the first page I posted a thread called dzhboot on g2 or something to that extent, one of the first few posts I eplain how to flash 4ext recovery.
One of the fastest roms I have used is elitemod cm7, maybe try that
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.

Ext4 worked really well for me to speed up my phone.. I highly recommend it.
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alexnh said:
I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.

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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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i superwipe, and i've been flashing roms since the g1. I am not seeing any particular process hogging resources. this current jb beta is pretty good but still get some lagging at random.
if that were the case I would love to try and find out what it is.
it seems to me that a minority of users report lags in rom threads and are dismissed without ever really getting to the root of the problem.
I would really like to try and get to the bottom of it. I am going to move to ext4 but if there are other troubleshooting steps to take I am all ears.

Ext4 alone will make a huge difference, and most of the rest of the slow downs will be do to apps/running services which can be seen with a logcat what is continually trying to use cpu resources
If only a minority report slowdowns then either that minority has a different idea of how the phone should run/ they use the phone in a completley different way/ or have different settings and apps then most have.
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Slow phone

I think my One V isn't working as fast as it should. Before buying it I saw a lot o videos and reviews and my phone is not close in performance to what i saw. The most useful proof is that when I play jetpack it lags a lot, and I play it with all apps closed in recent apps and the app installed in the phone memory. I have Android 4.0.3 rooted with Sense 4.0 and Software number 2.24.720.1. I updated the phone only once(before rooting) and was factory unlocked when I got it.
I see a lot of other phones with no more than 1Ghz processor and 512MB Ram that perform better with some open apps and I don´t get why my phone gets slow. I have considered updating to jelly bean but I don't know if it can help.

I had the same problem.... Get rid of sense and things will get better.
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F430gx said:
I think my One V isn't working as fast as it should. Before buying it I saw a lot o videos and reviews and my phone is not close in performance to what i saw. The most useful proof is that when I play jetpack it lags a lot, and I play it with all apps closed in recent apps and the app installed in the phone memory. I have Android 4.0.3 rooted with Sense 4.0 and Software number 2.24.720.1. I updated the phone only once(before rooting) and was factory unlocked when I got it.
I see a lot of other phones with no more than 1Ghz processor and 512MB Ram that perform better with some open apps and I don´t get why my phone gets slow. I have considered updating to jelly bean but I don't know if it can help.
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Do the videos you watched have Facebook or any other memory hogging app? My phone used to lag as well but I uninstalled everything I didn't need that used up memory and the performance improved.

Most of the video have facbook and other apps like that and running on Android 4.0.3 with a lot more apps than me. I just feel it too slow because I used to play on my ipod touch 2G. When I rooted the phone, the only app that installed was jetpack to see if it could run as it should, but it was like now. I have to manually liberate memory and close all apps to run simple games without lag.
If I get rid of Sense what features will I be missing?
Would you recommend me to get jelly bean without Sense or maybe with Sense?
I just use facebook, whatsapp and opera a few times.

F430gx said:
Most of the video have facbook and other apps like that and running on Android 4.0.3 with a lot more apps than me. I just feel it too slow because I used to play on my ipod touch 2G. When I rooted the phone, the only app that installed was jetpack to see if it could run as it should, but it was like now. I have to manually liberate memory and close all apps to run simple games without lag.
If I get rid of Sense what features will I be missing?
Would you recommend me to get jelly bean without Sense or maybe with Sense?
I just use facebook, whatsapp and opera a few times.
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Go on jelly bean and greenify your apps
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F430gx said:
I think my One V isn't working as fast as it should. Before buying it I saw a lot o videos and reviews and my phone is not close in performance to what i saw. The most useful proof is that when I play jetpack it lags a lot, and I play it with all apps closed in recent apps and the app installed in the phone memory. I have Android 4.0.3 rooted with Sense 4.0 and Software number 2.24.720.1. I updated the phone only once(before rooting) and was factory unlocked when I got it.
I see a lot of other phones with no more than 1Ghz processor and 512MB Ram that perform better with some open apps and I don´t get why my phone gets slow. I have considered updating to jelly bean but I don't know if it can help.
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Try using custom rom like Ignorance V4 and using titanium kiss or charm kiss kernel...the combination give me no lags and great performance for my one v:good:

I would like to get Jelly Bean, any custom ROM that is like the stock JB with Sense 4.0?
Or a final version of a cRom that have almost everything working.

Gaming on ICS ROMs

Hi guys, I have a problem playing games such as GTA III on my Xperia Play with any ICS ROM: everytime I launch the game, it freezes after a few seconds and I have to pull out the battery since the device stops responding.
Do you have this problem too ? Is it possible to solve it ? And...games aren't supposed to work better on newer versions of Android ? I know that ICS leaves less free RAM but there's are ICS ROMs like Krisdee's hybrid rom that leaves 200mb of free RAM like GB ROMs so I don't know what could be the problem...I've tried overclock to 1,6 GHz too, problem persists.

WhiteWashed said:
Hi guys, I have a problem playing games such as GTA III on my Xperia Play with any ICS ROM: everytime I launch the game, it freezes after a few seconds and I have to pull out the battery since the device stops responding.
Do you have this problem too ? Is it possible to solve it ? And...games aren't supposed to work better on newer versions of Android ? I know that ICS leaves less free RAM but there's are ICS ROMs like Krisdee's hybrid rom that leaves 200mb of free RAM like GB ROMs so I don't know what could be the problem...I've tried overclock to 1,6 GHz too, problem persists.
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Not sure if you still have this problem but you should know that just because some android versions (ICS, JB etc) are newer, it doesn't necessarily make performance better. This will be the case when it comes to the Xperia Play, since this 2011 phone has never received an official upgrade to ICS (due to performance issues). When it comes to our phone, Gaming and Battery will always be better on Gingerbread since it is more battery friendly and less laggy performance wise.
If you want to stay on ICS then your best bet will be installing some mods such as Ice Cream Speed or PurePerformancesX however like i said if you're the gaming type then stay on GB for your phones full potential
Good luck

That's the deal gta3 on ics.. btw have u tried asphalt 8 on ics yet?. pls share ur results

eddynoob said:
That's the deal gta3 on ics.. btw have u tried asphalt 8 on ics yet?. pls share ur results
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Asphalt 8 isn't compatible with the Xperia Play hardware so even if you have JB or ICS you can't even download the game from the Play Store it just says that the phone isn't compatible.
Anyways, I've tried it with a JB rom (downloading directly the apk+obb file) and the game installed succesfully but it was crashing during the loading before the first race so isn't playable.

Xplay21 said:
Not sure if you still have this problem but you should know that just because some android versions (ICS, JB etc) are newer, it doesn't necessarily make performance better. This will be the case when it comes to the Xperia Play, since this 2011 phone has never received an official upgrade to ICS (due to performance issues). When it comes to our phone, Gaming and Battery will always be better on Gingerbread since it is more battery friendly and less laggy performance wise.
If you want to stay on ICS then your best bet will be installing some mods such as Ice Cream Speed or PurePerformancesX however like i said if you're the gaming type then stay on GB for your phones full potential
Good luck
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I completely agree with you, it's a shame that an unique phone like the Xperia Play has such "ancient" hardware...

WhiteWashed said:
Asphalt 8 isn't compatible with the Xperia Play hardware so even if you have JB or ICS you can't even download the game from the Play Store it just says that the phone isn't compatible.
Anyways, I've tried it with a JB rom (downloading directly the apk+obb file) and the game installed succesfully but it was crashing during the loading before the first race so isn't playable.
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hmm.. I dont know why it didn't worked on your x play at all .. but it ran some what fine on mine ... although crashed on Tokyo and London tracks.. even after using swap 256mb.. on true ancestors ics at very low graphics settings..

WhiteWashed said:
I completely agree with you, it's a shame that an unique phone like the Xperia Play has such "ancient" hardware...
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True... I hope they make a newer version with better hardware.
Still, I managed to run GTA San Andreas on Fusion ICS. You can use the buttons and analog touchpad with gamekeyboard.
Overclocked at 1.5 GHZ and swap of 512MB it won't crash. sometimes I get 30 fps, but most of the time I get a crappy 10 fps...

Htc 616 too slow!!

Hey guys. I have this mobile and im so pissed right now. Its so laggy and slow. Even though its octa core but performance wise it look like dual core. Do you guys also have the same lagg issue ? Please tell me your experience and share some tips.
thanks.

waqas409 said:
Hey guys. I have this mobile and im so pissed right now. Its so laggy and slow. Even though its octa core but performance wise it look like dual core. Do you guys also have the same lagg issue ? Please tell me your experience and share some tips.
thanks.
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Its a bit laggy sometimes, especially if you have too many apps/games installed or have installed a 3rd party launcher/shell. Best way to speed up is to root, remove bloatware and install a custom rom. I am currently using CYAN rom by v_singh (find in Desire 616 Development), its pretty fast with Nova Launcher.

samrat_castle said:
Its a bit laggy sometimes, especially if you have too many apps/games installed or have installed a 3rd party launcher/shell. Best way to speed up is to root, remove bloatware and install a custom rom. I am currently using CYAN rom by v_singh (find in Desire 616 Development), its pretty fast with Nova Launcher.
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Thank you so much for the reply, i thought this forum is dead now, anyways can you please tell me or give me a link to root and change the rom because i havent done this before, another thing, is it safe to root( as if i sell this in the market someday) will the new root effects the price or anything like that?
PS: you talked about the Nova launcher, believe me if i installed any launcher from google store, it makes my mobile complete dead or slowly, so i have to bring battery out and have to reset. My internal rom only have 2 apps thats it, rest of them are in external card but still it lags, i thought its octa core it will work fast but it is worst the quad core.

waqas409 said:
Thank you so much for the reply, i thought this forum is dead now, anyways can you please tell me or give me a link to root and change the rom because i havent done this before, another thing, is it safe to root( as if i sell this in the market someday) will the new root effects the price or anything like that?
PS: you talked about the Nova launcher, believe me if i installed any launcher from google store, it makes my mobile complete dead or slowly, so i have to bring battery out and have to reset. My internal rom only have 2 apps thats it, rest of them are in external card but still it lags, i thought its octa core it will work fast but it is worst the quad core.
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If its lagging too much with only a few apps, first try resetting the phone to factory settings and then start using it again. If it still lags, you need to take it to service centre as it may be the problem with the device hardware.
Anyways, rooting will only create a problem if the device is still under warranty, as HTC will not reapair or replace it in case anything goes wrong, Not free of charge at least. Otherwise, rooting is very easy and the best solution to your problem.
Below are some links to help you in rooting and making the phone faster than ever.
Root and Recovery
Xposed Module on Desire 616
CYNOCUSTOM Rom
MIUI Rom