I have had a good look around the forums but still feel like a small fish in a big pond
I would like my play to be lean without all the bloat do I need to flash a new rom / kernel for this ? would like it to run faster , I am into games had a stack of emulators before I rooted and unlocked what benefits can I expect now and what programs / mods should I be doing in general ?
I apologise I know this has probably all been asked before but this is the first time I have messed with a phone and every thread I look at confuses me more .
i found that the stock rom works for me the best in terms of gaming and even normal use. i have .58 rom + Samsung Galaxy SII theme on it and it works smooth for me for now i also using Rom Toolbox to uninstall bloatware and block ads in programs. whenever i installed some custom roms, they were great, have awsome functionality, but i always back to a stock one where i had no problems with compatibility in hardware or software...
Ok, thats what many are asking right now!
If you are a hardcore pro gamer and you only use your play solely for play games using the PS certified pads then don't bother coming here. Cause I can tell you you are gonna have a bad time trying to find a decent hack, Custom ROM and ICS firmware with a stable and optimised Game pad compatibility. True i can say some are better and some are worse. Many ROMs fully suppor emulators. However No Custom ROM has a proper working driver where all those HD games by gamloft can run on.
So now i said all the disadvantages then here are some pf the pros
Rooting, unlocking your phone opens many capabilities. You can flash ICS which is the latets android operating system on the market and not available throguh offical update on Xperia play. You can learn more about how the phone works and everyday you get the chance to try out cool features that the devs around here make or implement. ICS is fast and smooth. Not so nice with the gamepads. But fast! Performance on it is excelllent. Battery life sometime an issue though. Unlocking bootloader and rooting would mean you can flash complex kernals that can allow you to Over Clock your CPU safely to 1.8ghz which is almost double the speed you would get on stock firmware. Some say it's useless when you can't use that speed to play hardcore games but thats not true. The OC speed has given me personally faster video playback and most points and All the normall games on the pla market generally load much faster,
I hope this gave you what you were looking for.
Good luck and happy rooting
Cheers I am not concerned about the HD games the only marketplace one I play is GTA 3 I am more concerned about emulators , so can you point me in the direction of a good kernel and rom to accomplish this and give me a few pointers of how to change them , i have flash toll but I am kind of lost at this point .
Try Gin2Ics, emulators work, it's stable and unarguably the best Gingerbread rom there is, in my opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631144
Well i am going to give it a go , wish me luck
Which files do i need from the repository the rom and what else ?
So I am rom and Kernel successful but now my wifi does not turn on
I've tried many of the ROMs and kernel combinations but so far gin2ics with stock seems the most enjoyable. You don't need an unlocked bootloader for this.
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Should i update my phone to ICS from Gingerbread??
Or its not a good idea?
Performance vs looks
IF you really want a beautiful experience(WITH LAG) of the interface(FOR A LITTLE WHILE) in lieu of the OVERALL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE then please UPDATE TO ICS.
BUT if you want to have a better experience(WITHOUT ANY LAG) with all of the phone's feature THEN STAY WITH THE GB.:angel:
I have tried almost every ICS ROM for the ARC and almost every ROM HAS A LAG(in the beginning it doesn't come into action but after some time when caching of system applications start it's the most HORRIBLE experience with the phone and sometimes you can't even use your phone for call or messaging (LIKE IT'S LAGGING LIKE HEELLL) ):crying:
SO it's upto you..what i think
I AM BACK TO GB FROM ICS
REST IS YOUR CHOICE:good:
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ICS consumes more resources, there's no way round that, but a properly configured Arc can easily run ICS with ZERO lag. You do need to be careful what apps you have running in the background - see this post for more details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30809767&postcount=11
Personally, I would never go back to GB. My phone is so much more stable on ICS, you can run a number of tablet-only apps, battery life is significantly improved, etc.
I've not tried the latest Sony rom, but previous ones have not been great - too bloated and sluggish. Custom roms are IMHO definitely the way to go for ICS on the Arc.
Update?
Just Update to the latest .578 ICS and if you feel the device is slow/irresponsive use Bloatware Remover to make RAM consumption better
Xperia Arc Can Handle ICS , Great as GB.
It depends Upon the Developer Of it.
I say go for a try
If i install Sony's official ICS will i lose my root, and will i have to install different kernel? I am currently using doomLord's kernel.
Hi
To upgrade or not to upgrade…
Few days ago I come back to old GB 2.3.4 simply because I have some unfinished business with some games I didn’t finish while on GB – and also sort of compare to what was like to be on GB again comparing to ICS… (anyways it takes me @ 15min to switch to any Android ver. And with CWM backup it a matter of minutes to be back on favorite ROM…)
Man I felt like I was driving on handbrake all this time… you feel like flying fast… no LAG whatsoever it feels great again… speed wise.
From the moment ICS come out I already flashed it via flashtool and rooted, immediately I started to try out different kinds of ROM modes out there… tried like maybe 10 of them (could only use some as I need to stay with locked BootLoader… so no custom kernels.) Anyway after so many months of playing around – the only ROM which suited my needs was JJROM 3.1 – also the look of it is great for me… so I stayed with it… flashed XPERIA S Walkman port + some other little add-ons which made my ROM complete…
Now somebody wrote here that you need to be very careful what you run on ICS ROM in order to be sure it can run smoothly enough… and this is so true…
When buying originally the phone (ARC S) it was supposed to serve me like a little computer machine while I’m away – Internet, mail, GPS, banking, photos, music, movies, YouTube, FB… etc, etc… it supposed to be very flexible and have enough power to do many things with many programs as possible… now with GB I noticed that I’m able to do many more things at once while lag-free then with ICS… I didn’t buy phone just to make calls and SMS – as many users tent to use their smartphones for… for me it have to do some rather heavy duty stuff…
Unfortunately ICS is very memory hungry and I noticed that with time after installing all favorite apps it starts to lag… you don’t notice till you have some reference like trying again GB with the some programs… don’t fall into adverts of different ROM makes that their ROMs are so great and fast – lag free and have so much RAM free – and blah blah… they flash fresh ROM, take few screenshots of fresh install with so much RAM free (zero apps running), then upload some clips on YT so you are amazed at the smoothness… BUT the real life starts after somebody installs their 10+ favorite apps and then can test the ROM in real life… and most of the time you realize that the difference between “before and after” is like night and day… ROM becomes unusable… or lags terribly.
I will be going back to my beloved ICS JJROM3.1 (after I finish the games I can’t on ICS) but I realize that it will never be as fast as GB… I just love the HOLO layout and look of ICS… I miss already some of the ICS options and functions, but the speed of GB is just amazing so I will stay on it to enjoy a bit longer… ha. I guess someone needs to find this “in between” ROM, where he can use as many of his apps as possible and still have reasonable speed left. I have running all GG services, FB Firendcaster, Forum app, weather, RSS reader, maps, Email etc etc and no lag whatsoever – games load fast and run perfectly without any glitches… while playing NOVA, DeadSpace, Shadow Guardian etc I still receive mail and forum/FB/RSS notices in the background and games don’t stop or even shatter for a moment, you don’t feel like there is any problem with having all this background services going on… well with ICS is a bit different, I can still run the some games (exept SG)… with this services, apps etc but it will take longer to load and while receiving notifications games shutter for few sec…
I found GB ROM called JellyBreadV2Arc which is modified version of stock GB which is super for my needs (has removed all FB bloatware + other tweaks) runs really fast…
Anyway – don’t know why I started all this… I guess the question to flash ICS or not is very hard to answer – if you want to try something new and are willing to sacrifice some gaming and a little speed then try it out… there is always way back…
One thing I noticed immediately with GB is battery life, is not as good as on ICS and charging takes longer on GB… which bugs me a bit… I know that with different kernel would improve but I don’t want to unlock BL… so needs to be that way.
ics it's no so bad, i really never used GB too much, but is said that it's better for battery life. I'm happy with ICS.
When I bought my Arc S LT18i, the ICS update was already available. I started using it with gingerbread but then, when I already had the apps I wanted, I decided to update my phone to ICS (4.1.A.0.562). Everything was ok until I booted my phone for the second time after the update. Couldn't unlock my sim and it just freezed. Had this problem for a month. I was so mad! I booted into safe mode, restored using PC Companion but the problem didn't go away. But then came the 2nd ICS update (4.1.B.0.431) and it just fixed things. The 3rd update (4.1.B.0.587) didn't bring any changes as far as I can see. But I still recommend you update to ICS. Or just flash CM9 stable.
Let's just not ask people, try it and see if you like it. Don't get me wrong but we can't help you as we all see ICS differently so you must try it out and see if it suits your everyday life. Also if you don't like it, you can always flash back to GB. Getting the root is simple enough and to find it, Google. Right now I suggest getting ICS because in my point of view, ICS is fast, sleek and beautiful.
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Should i update my phone to ICS from Gingerbread??
Or its not a good idea?
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Let me tell you now to get perfect ics. Once updated to ics, root using eroot toolkit n then install cwm using x-parts. Then go to cwm, flash odexed notification led fix, flash jb adreno drivers. Then boot phone. Now ul have a lot of smoothness and notification bug won't be there. U can then also install titanium backup n remove bloatware for even more speed. For the WiFi dropping problem, flash kernel of .13 firmware. Then ul have the ultimate ics experience. Sony's ics update is incomplete. Do all this n then it'll be a proper update!
Nice Review ,TNKS
What You Think ? Stock ROM Is THE BEST OR NOT ?
amankumar2508007 said:
IF you really want a beautiful experience(WITH LAG) of the interface(FOR A LITTLE WHILE) in lieu of the OVERALL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE then please UPDATE TO ICS.
BUT if you want to have a better experience(WITHOUT ANY LAG) with all of the phone's feature THEN STAY WITH THE GB.:angel:
I have tried almost every ICS ROM for the ARC and almost every ROM HAS A LAG(in the beginning it doesn't come into action but after some time when caching of system applications start it's the most HORRIBLE experience with the phone and sometimes you can't even use your phone for call or messaging (LIKE IT'S LAGGING LIKE HEELLL) ):crying:
SO it's upto you..what i think
I AM BACK TO GB FROM ICS
REST IS YOUR CHOICE:good:
plz hit thanks if i helped
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gius321 said:
What You Think ? Stock ROM Is THE BEST OR NOT ?
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Try it out yourself. Different people have different opinion on different ROMs.
僕のLT18iから送られてきた
Hey guys, I've had my play for just over a year, I've installed countless roms and had a ball doing it. Unfortunately I think the old girl is struggling to keep up with the last couple of custom roms, cm9.1 and mark phyton's un/official ICS rom. The latter is the one I am running now and even after a reinstall it is nearly unusable, it's extremely laggy and freezes on apps like facebook, kindle and youtube. Ram sits at 30-40mb free, I have link2sd running to free up internal memory and am overclocked to 1.2ghz with setcpu. I know ICS is pushing the limits of the play's capabilities but I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be this bad can anyone suggest anything to try to get better performance please?
ICS roms are not suitable for the play. If u want better performance use a GB rom instead
hypestylez said:
ICS roms are not suitable for the play. If u want better performance use a GB rom instead
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facebook uses alot of resources...also markphytons unofficial rom is quite good I use to have around 130 mb free ram...the rom comes with a very nice app called pimp my rom which it has a good few options into speeding up the rom very handy....
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use my signature as a reference.
I have a problem with both games installed, I need to install chainfire3d so that NFS MW would work (black screen problem), but when I install chainfire3d, TDKR shows graphical problems, I tried messing with the per-app setting but still no progress
What should I to so I can keep both games without switching chainfire3d on and off? thanks in advance
In case you need my device's details:
R800i
ROM: NXT 1.3 LE
Kernel: DooMKernel
VergiL09 said:
I have a problem with both games installed, I need to install chainfire3d so that NFS MW would work (black screen problem), but when I install chainfire3d, TDKR shows graphical problems, I tried messing with the per-app setting but still no progress
What should I to so I can keep both games without switching chainfire3d on and off? thanks in advance
In case you need my device's details:
R800i
ROM: NXT 1.3 LE
Kernel: DooMKernel
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You are using a very good gaming rom and one of the best kernels out there. I dont think there is a need for chainfire. When you enable chainfire it tries to reduce the graphics for better performance but in TDKR it will only mess it up.
I dont really know what the problem is. Have you tried overclocking??
I use chainfire so that I can play NFS most wanted, I'm getting the black screen problem (only UI and taillights are visible) if I don't use chainfire with the powerVR plugin
Solution? Use de-bloated stock ROM. Nuff said.
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Solution? Use de-bloated stock ROM. Nuff said.
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Excuse me, is there a MORE debloated stock rom than NXT LE???
I admire the talents of our devs but I just don't trust custom ROMs. Debloated as they may be, devs usually add features that are not to my liking. If you ask TLRTheory, he'll tell you the same... That the best ROM is stock ROM. My point here is that to be able to properly play games without having to add mods and tweaks time and again is to play using a stock ROM debloated to the brim so as to boost performance.
narflynn619 said:
I admire the talents of our devs but I just don't trust custom ROMs. Debloated as they may be, devs usually add features that are not to my liking. If you ask TLRTheory, he'll tell you the same... That the best ROM is stock ROM. My point here is that to be able to properly play games without having to add mods and tweaks time and again is to play using a stock ROM debloated to the brim so as to boost performance.
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As much as I respect tlrtheory an like his viedeos on YouTube I would have to disagree with you both nxt le is the fastest rom I've ever used more so than a debloated stock
But tbh it does all come down to personal opinion
And the joy of of being able to tweak stuff to get Better performance and even messing up really bad and having to start over again is good learning but again everything comes down to opinion and preference
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I really would appreciate some help
I have an Xperia Play R800i, I have unlocked the Boot Loader and I am using a stock 4.0.2.A.0.42, which sucks ...
I want to use flashtools to install a custom ROM, but the thing is ... I am not a developer, I am a begginer in Android ... And unfortunately I dont have the time to test several custom ROMS to see what I like.
So, here is what I am looking for:
1. I primarily use my phone for retro gaming, emulators and stuff. I have very little interest in recent android games.
2. I use a lot of its basic functions as a smartphone, such as GMail, Maps, whatsapp and 3G.
3. I prefer something light, that wouldnt compromise gaming performance.
4. Being pretty and shiny isnt a necessity. (could be a bonus, though)
5. Here is the catch: I am really interested in the progress PPSSPP is making, since I loved my PSP. I understand that it will probably just run some basic games, but I really think it is cool. If there is any custom ROM that works better with this particular app...
6. Overclocking capabilities. Again, because of PPSSPP.
7. Something that looks and feels close to the stock ROM, if possible.
I tried to go into specifics so that you can help me find exactly what I need! Thanks a lot!
NXT Light Rom is nice. It's the Rom I'm currently on. I have tried different roms but they all seem to work the same for me. I settled on NXT Light because It simply allowed me more space for installation of apps, it looked nice and I got a battery percentage thingy in notification bar along with alot other very useful features.
Should take a look at it.
As for kernal LuPuSv6-GB is pretty good, with a 1.6 GHz profile already set.
My daughter (13) being a playstation fan....saw the "playstation phone" somewhere and had a fit for it. I had to look up what she was talking about and strangely....I had never seen or heard of the Xperia Play. I found an unopened brand new Verizon (r800x) and bought it for her. Her birthday is next month and I am wanting to get this thing set up for her. I didnt realize that Sony had stopped support for this phone...so I cant even update from the stock android version This will be her first phone, and I think she will absolutely love it....but I need some help getting it updated please.
I have the phone set up and activated on Page Plus. I have read and read and read on the different roms and kernels etc. and TBH...it is all greek to me lol. I have never rooted a phone...used a custom rom or kernel etc. So I am hoping that some of you awesome peeps could help me out a little and help put a huge smile on my little girls face .
I noticed that several roms overclock the processor and up the screen res to 720p. That would be awesome to have since she will game the crap out of it lol. Of course I want all of the functions of the slide out controller to work...like the touch sensors etc. and also the wifi, camera etc. because well...shes a teenager. I also have Themer on my S3 and she LOVES messing with it and I am not sure if its possible for it to work on the Play even with a custom rom etc.
If any kind soul would mind telling me which rom etc would be the best to use for this, and also help me with getting it all installed and set up etc. I would GREATLY appreciate it!! Thanks so much!
HBD to your daughter
Hi, it's amazing, our loved xplay will never die .
First of all, if you have your bootloader unlocked then you are ready to choose (see point #2) then flash a rom (see point #3), if not then give a look to THIS for web unlocking for R800x (may work) or THIS it should work for R800x too but roms must be for R800x, you can search on each rom post to see if that rom are compatible.
Lets think about gaming and stuff, if you think your daughter will use it to play heavy games instead social stuff and multitask is not a problem then GingerBread is the best option, if you think she will be a casual gamer and will want multitask and other cool "new" stuff then ICS, Jellybean is not an option since you said that you want touchpads and jellybean has no functional touchpads.
In both GB and ICS you will able to record on 720p and Overclock your device and i recommend to O.C up to 1.6GHz with a Lupus Kernel.
Now, i have tested a several roms and kernels and i'll list those which i think are the best.
GINGER BREAD
Gin2KitKat very good UI, good for gaming and social
AuroraPlay simple UI, very good for gaming (the best i think)
ICE CREAM SANDWICH
GAMING HYBRID simple UI, light and good for gaming
ICS Original original Sony Ericsson UI, good for gaming and social
Xperia Play ZXperia Z UI(the best i think), very good for gaming and social
As i said before, you must see if the rom is compatible for R800x since almost all of them are for R800i.
As a matter in fact i'm using Xperia Play Z with DoomKernel at 1.6GHz and i think its the best of the best :laugh:
Hope i was helpful, i'm sorry for my bad english. Good luck. :fingers-crossed:
Thanks SO much for your help She will game of course but I think the ICS would suit her better. After writing this...i read some more....and some more lol....anyway I found the sony unlocking website...and unfortunately I dont have the "bootloader status" option so it says I cant unlock it
I would love to set it up exactly like yours is, since it seems you really like it . Is there a workaround for the bootloader problem?
Thanks again for your help!
Well...I got the bootloader unlocked
I wanted to use the Xperia Play Z rom that you mentioned...but it doesnt seem to be a r800x rom Can anybody recommend a ICS rom and kernel for the r800x please?
Try Hybrid
GAMING HYBRID has a CDMA (r800x) version :highfive:.
Actually you can flash any R800i ICS ROM but you will not have network but wifi, just to try maybe .
May you should pm Markphyton to know if the Xperia Play Z rom will be ported ro r800x in near future, meanwhile try Hybrid Gaming its UI is not as ugly as you may think, is stable and light, give it a chance.
kidtransam said:
Well...I got the bootloader unlocked
I wanted to use the Xperia Play Z rom that you mentioned...but it doesnt seem to be a r800x rom Can anybody recommend a ICS rom and kernel for the r800x please?
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if r800x is not the only option that would work in you area.. then you really made a mistake by buying the x version.,. should have bought the r800i.
Want Controller in Minecraft
I am setting up an Xperia Play for my daughter as well, and two more for my sons, only we have the CDMA version. So far I have tried CyanogenMod 9.1 and Xperia Play Z. In both of them, the controller functionality is just junk in Minecraft. Both Softsticks operate the same functions as the D-Pad on the left, leaving no good way to get around without constantly touching the screen. Additionally, on both ROMs, the only way I could get the option to play worlds locally was to copy them over from other devices, only then did the New and Edit buttons show up, and they still go missing most of the time.
So my question: Would anyone like to give an example of a specific custom ROM which gives them good controller performance in Minecraft? I would prefer Android 4.0 or better so I could recover from the kids changing the PIN(also, using PINs) to something they don't remember, and using phone location from within the Play store, otherwise I might have stuck with Stock in the first place.
Update: After trying Gaming Hybrid, I am mystified as to how it made the recommended list at all, and... I'll stop right there because that's the most positive thing I have to say about it. ICS Original gave me no controller love in Minecraft either, but even though it tried to set default language to Chinese it was at least stable during its four-minute eval.