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An ICS Rom that doesn't lag like hell !

guys , i've tried several ics roms over few months and they are either buggy or laggy , so my question is : is there a rom for arc that doesn't laggg.
i've already tried JJ's in addition to some other roms , it always starts nice and smooth at first , but after a while it gets laggy
currently using JJ's Hybrid 3.1 with about 140 mbs on internal ram (using link2sd). and overclocked at 1.4 GHz
so is there anything that will work or should face the inevitable and revert back to Gingerbread
also : do you guys think , that jellybean roms , by any chance are(will be) smoother than ics

None, i tried all of them, from custom to stock. They seem fast and responsive at first, then i siwtch between a few apps then try to use the keyboard .... BAM, 10-20 secs lag.
All the ICS roms lag like hell in the moment when i need my phone the most (write a note, call a number, answer a call).
I am back to GB until CM10 goes a little stable, if it keeps the same lag as ICS then i will go back to GB forever on this device.

codestation said:
None, i tried all of them, from custom to stock. They seem fast and responsive at first, then i siwtch between a few apps then try to use the keyboard .... BAM, 10-20 secs lag.
All the ICS roms lag like hell in the moment when i need my phone the most (write a note, call a number, answer a call).
I am back to GB until CM10 goes a little stable, if it keeps the same lag as ICS then i will go back to GB forever on this device.
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yeah , that's what i thought :|
i feel you bro , i think i'll go ahead , switch back to GB and finally , .. admit that my single core arc is too crappy for ICS.
DAMN YOU sony ,if it weren't so sexy , i would never have bought it.
Oh THE IRONY , back when i bought it , the ugly S2 was like "70$ only" more expensive than the arc !!!!

I would never go for S2 over Arc S, if I could choose again. But yes, Gingerbread runs much smoother than ICS, but I think that new ICS update is not that terrible, and I never had any "few seconds" lag, no matter how many apps I start one after another...

@ningen90: lol at the "DAMN YOU SONY, if it weren't so sexy" haha sorry, i was also victimized by its sexiness I also tried to scout for an ICS candidate, but there are always comments that it lags, so im running GB at the moment. some people say its ok, but most of the replies are about lag damn you sexy arc... hahaha

Actually ICS wasn't optimized for performance ...it is going to lag from time to time even on A high end devixe ...try Jelly Bean ...it is the evolution of ICS to performance .
Sent from my Xperia Arc S using Tapatalk 2

Any of you tried arconium? I know some ICS roms lag, but with arconium im pretty happy
I got an S2 too btw

Try Jelly Sandwich, mate. With XArc kernel, of course.
Sent from my CM9'd Galaxy Tab 2 10.1

no chance of any smoothness of ICS on ARC
ICS was meant to run properly on devices with ram greater than 512mb. With only 512mb of ram it can only hold the necessary system applications of ANDROID. SO while running ICS on arc it RUNS SMOOTHLY FIRST but afterwards the apps get CACHED it starts lagging
REALLY LIKE HELL (with only 100-150mb ram gets left what do you expect its PERFORMANCE).SO i don't think that there is any possibility of running ICS smoothly forever on ARC.:crying:
JELLY BEAN on the other hand will also be requiring HIGH SPEC DEVICES..SO don't expect it also run without any lag on arc.
I don't know why SONY ERICSSON only put 512mb of ram in all it's 2011 xperia devices while also assuring to RUN OUT THE ICS UPDATE knowing the fact that ICS requires a higher RAM value.
I like the INTERFACE of ICS but to use it on the ARC IS TO GIVE UP the speed and performance.I used it for a month(tried every ics and cm9 rom)
but was too too UPSET. SO gone back to the GINGER BREAD ROM(it's best for the xperia arc).:good:
TO USE ICS SMOOTHLY I SUGGEST TO BUY ANOTHER DEVICE WITH HIGH END SPECS.

Jellybean
ningen90 said:
guys , i've tried several ics roms over few months and they are either buggy or laggy , so my question is : is there a rom for arc that doesn't laggg.
i've already tried JJ's in addition to some other roms , it always starts nice and smooth at first , but after a while it gets laggy
currently using JJ's Hybrid 3.1 with about 140 mbs on internal ram (using link2sd). and overclocked at 1.4 GHz
so is there anything that will work or should face the inevitable and revert back to Gingerbread
also : do you guys think , that jellybean roms , by any chance are(will be) smoother than ics
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Jellybean rom is far better than ICS. No laggy....butter smooth. :laugh:
I installed FXP's CM10. It was awesome experience. But the rom is in alpha stage....but we can use it as daily rom. :good:
Hope we will get jellybean stable version early.
Go thru this link for more details on FXP's Jelly bean - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780316
Hit thanks if I helped you.
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Rooted/Unlocked BootLoader
Running JellyBean FXP132/CM10

The lagging is down to free memory - FYI I had terrible lag on GB too before I realised. You really need to be careful what you allow to run in the background.
Basically, you need to make sure there's somewhere around 100 MB free ram most of the time to guarantee a lag-free experience. You can use ES Task Manager to see what apps are consuming memory, and the 'running' tab in Manage Apps to see the services. Bear in mind widgets can be very memory hungry, particularly if you have 5 screens full of them; it's often best to use something like Beautiful Widgets which allows you to have various different widgets running, but they consume the same memory as one.
Just like on Windows, some apps pointlessly run at startup, consuming your system resources even when they're not being used - LivewareManager is one example. Worse still, these apps often restart automatically if killed. You can use SystemCleanup and/or Autorun Manager to stop this behaviour.
You may find alternatives to apps that need to run in the background also. For example, there's a taking caller ID app called eCID which needs to run all the time and consumes about 30 MB. I switched to a very similar app, Spoken Caller ID, and that just starts when the phone receives a call, and stops after it has done its job. The same is true of antivirus apps and others.
Some apps need to run as an "accessibility service", which is also always running in the background. Lightflow is an example of this, as is Tasker and some SmartWatch notification apps. Work out if you really need these. For example, I quickly realised that Tasker could effectively do the job my battery saver app and lightflow were doing all by itself.
If you use an alternative keyboard, the regular one keeps running in the background. Also, if you've replaced the TTS engine with one that sounds less robotic, it might be the case that one app is running for each installed voice. The solution here is to 'freeze' those using Titanium Backup or SystemCleanup.
I don't have any lag on my Arc, thanks to reducing what apps are running all the time to just the ones I actually want.

KartzXDA said:
Jellybean rom is far better than ICS. No laggy....butter smooth. :laugh:
I installed FXP's CM10. It was awesome experience. But the rom is in alpha stage....but we can use it as daily rom. :good:
Hope we will get jellybean stable version early.
Go thru this link for more details on FXP's Jelly bean - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780316
Hit thanks if I helped you.
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yeah , i've been keeping my eyes on CM10 for a while now , but it's still far from complete , i think i'll wait a lil' bit more, thanx anyway

amankumar2508007 said:
ICS was meant to run properly on devices with ram greater than 512mb. With only 512mb of ram it can only hold the necessary system applications of ANDROID. SO while running ICS on arc it RUNS SMOOTHLY FIRST but afterwards the apps get CACHED it starts lagging
REALLY LIKE HELL (with only 100-150mb ram gets left what do you expect its PERFORMANCE).SO i don't think that there is any possibility of running ICS smoothly forever on ARC.:crying:
JELLY BEAN on the other hand will also be requiring HIGH SPEC DEVICES..SO don't expect it also run without any lag on arc.
I don't know why SONY ERICSSON only put 512mb of ram in all it's 2011 xperia devices while also assuring to RUN OUT THE ICS UPDATE knowing the fact that ICS requires a higher RAM value.
I like the INTERFACE of ICS but to use it on the ARC IS TO GIVE UP the speed and performance.I used it for a month(tried every ics and cm9 rom)
but was too too UPSET. SO gone back to the GINGER BREAD ROM(it's best for the xperia arc).:good:
TO USE ICS SMOOTHLY I SUGGEST TO BUY ANOTHER DEVICE WITH HIGH END SPECS.
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Totally Disagree.
just Have a Look on CM9 & CM10.
They Do not Lag.
Its A Problem Of Sony,Because Sony Did Not Optimised The ICS Rom.
So They Lagged.
Our Xperia Arc.Can Run It Smoother.:silly:
Only Thing It Requires A Good Rom Dev. Like Fxp.

Latest 587 firmware is far better, but yes, you always need to freeze unwanted services. It's not always Sony fault, when you use maps and quit the app, there is part of it that stay in background, like location service, same for the store.
Those Google apps are among the worse thing, they dont quit, stay in background, eating memory and cpu.
Another cause of laginess is the constant log writing, everything is log, i use CM7 on a Desire and there is much less logs. I don't know if there is a means to stop logging, i read a lot about logcat, but nothing useful.
And remember to always quit an application by the menu, if there is one or by return. using home simply put it on background.

ningen90 said:
i've already tried JJ's in addition to some other roms , it always starts nice and smooth at first , but after a while it gets laggy
currently using JJ's Hybrid 3.1 with about 140 mbs on internal ram (using link2sd). and overclocked at 1.4 GHz ...
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ram and internal storage are two very different things, you seem to be confusing them - link2sd gives you more free internal storage, it does nothing for your ram. I'd bet your problem is free ram.

now i'm using JellySandwich 3.3 with infamous kernel, with link2sd and a lot of apps installed, the HTC keyboard (i kind of love it), and the perfomance it's good, so as the battery life (about 10 hours with heavy usage, games, wifi browsing...) the only thing with this rom, it's the scrolling on some heavy web pages (like phonearena), it's not so smooth like stock rom, or another ones that i try.

My Xperia Arc has ~220MB free of ram with locked bootloader and it's un-rooted, and I'm on ICS 4.0.4 with firmware 4.1.B.0.578.
I use stock rom, and stock kernel, and I'm using Apex launcher

Did you try this??'
adrianom said:
Guys,
The Vendor folder exist on both devices, but on LT15 Firmware the vendor is a partition and include apps, different from LT18 where the folder is only for configuration and is inside SYSTEM partition.
Because of this is that LT15 has a small SYSTEM partition when flash the LT15 firmware.
What I did was flash LT15 firmware, make a backup of SYSTEM and VENDOR folder with ADB and TAR, and then flash LT18 SYSTEM and USERDATA partition only (with FlashTool). This remakes the partition table and resize SYSTEM and DATA partition to ~400mb.
Than after flash SYSTEM and USERDATA from LT18, I format the SYSTEM partition and restore both SYSTEM e VENDOR backup that I make, placing the configuration files of VENDOR partition in folder VENDOR of SYSTEM partition, and moving the APKs from APP folder in VENDOR to APP folder on SYSTEM root.
This worked perfectly, and now I have all APKs in SYSTEM/APP and the partition size of LT18 firmware with LT15 firmware.
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I did it on my arc and it runs fine and have 420 mb for apps, no llags, no frezess, and i think more batery life... try it!, but i didn't instal any tweak, or external widget manager or apps for beautify, i'm very happy with it.

clean Gingerbread vs CM9 rc5

Can anyone please name the advantages of CM9 installed on our phone?
Currently i use Bagux 1.4 and I've noticed these pros against cm9:
Better battery,
No connectivity problems,
Camera works faster..

CM9 r5
I bought my Galaxy W has 8 days and I am already using the CM9, not sorry ...

Advantages:
1- It is ICS so it has more features and options. CM gives even more customizations to Android
2- It looks way better than stock GB
3- There are many custom kernels!
4- It has more attention from the devs, GB has WAY less attentions now.......
5- The theme option in setting, this means that you can change the colours of the rom just by installing an app
6- You will be upgrading to a rom that has been made by Sir Arco..........Enough said!
Disadvantages:
No FMradio

CM9!
arco68 is very good at it ... CM9 makes! The samsung is so ***** that left us in 2.3.6, but for that there XDA developers! : D: D
Excuse my English, I'm Brazilian.

7amada100 said:
Disadvantages:
No FMradio
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You can download Spirit Light, it's a FMRadio and it works greater than the original one for what I saw till now.. =)

i would say if you've used stock GB for a long time like me, you will find stock GB's interface to be more simple haha. But learning a new interface is never too hard so this is not much of a pro.
some even speculated that GB roms uses less battery than ICS/JB roms since well u know... GB has not much to offer xD! But I believe with more and more kernels developed within the ICS/JB frameworks, GB will also lose in the battery department.
So in conclusion, GB is outdated and should only be kept for preference purposes. (right now, I'm too lazy to migrate due to all the customization I have to redo and the ICS/JB rom still not finalized yet, yes I'm unreasonably demanding lol)

I've tried a lot of roms. Thought i will stick with CM9, but after experiencing wifi, data problems, battery drain, I've came back to GB Bagux rom, which runs smoothly for me and has no bugs or problems. I always change the interface with custom launchers, so looks of GB isnt an issue, since there is themes for its framework too. I think its better to have more free memory, than to run on the Edge of memory shortage like on CM9. And battery is definately better for example 1d16h on battery and 66% left. (didnt use phone much but still on cm9 it was 2-3% while deepsleep)

We can talk all day bout this topic. But in my opinion it really depends on what type of user you are.
In my case, i use camera a lot at work, i also use fm radio, and plays a lot of 3d games.
It's a mix feeling when you try those different roms. When i flashed CM10 i thought i was never gonna go back to GB.
JB brings new stuff, buttery smooth as they say, and it's the latest Android. But there are still bugs in the camera, and battery life isn't that good yet compared to GB. After using it for more than a month, i decided to try the latest GB update (2.3.6 dated December 2012).
I think i'm gonna stick with GB for the moment. Not until battery life is improved and those glitches in the camera are fixed.
To compensate the feeling of being outdated, i tried different launchers. I mean really different, like launcher 8 which totally mimics the windows phone interface. Looks can be easily achieved whether you are in GB or JB as there are plenty of launchers and customizations out there.
When it comes to performance, i managed to get the best of my current GB rom by carefully managing start ups and disabling apps which i do not really use. It plays all the 3d games i have with no lag at all. I do not overclock my phone, coz it will just eat up more battery.
Overall, i think my current setup is better and just what i need for daily use. It's quick, no bugs, reliable, and the battery can last 2 days with minimal use. So I'm satisfied and happy with it. For now..

Do High Def games work faster on Ginger Bread or CM9? I'm thinking of flashing F.A.W stock ROM... For the sake of gaming...
From my Wonder, trying to PORT Sense to this device!
1/10 Done.
Gamin'TheWonder CM10 ROM comin' soon...

TiTAN-O-One said:
Do High Def games work faster on Ginger Bread or CM9? I'm thinking of flashing F.A.W stock ROM... For the sake of gaming...
From my Wonder, trying to PORT Sense to this device!
1/10 Done.
Gamin'TheWonder CM10 ROM comin' soon...
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if you want to try gb for gaming install the latest euro update XXLMI (december 2012). i think it performs better.
install "autostarts" from market and disable auto starting apps to save memory.
u may want to freeze system apps you don't use also with link2sd. this is what i did basically, without any other tweaks and i'm happy with the result.

same here ,,, im a big fan of link2sd apps,, i used to link all my apps to my 32gb class 10 mmc,,, so that my phone memory never gets full,, whenever new game comes,,,,

klacenas said:
if you want to try gb for gaming install the latest euro update XXLMI (december 2012). i think it performs better.
install "autostarts" from market and disable auto starting apps to save memory.
u may want to freeze system apps you don't use also with link2sd. this is what i did basically, without any other tweaks and i'm happy with the result.
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Last question, does ShadowGun and GTA 3 work? TEEHEE
Sadly, i installed the XXLM8 one and it seems fine to me... So Ill go with that...
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Choosing the right ROM for Wildfire S: Slim or "full"?

Hi there,
I have just upgraded from a Wildfire S to a Nexus4. I would like to use the Wildfire S a secondary phone (for which right now I use a very old/crappy/non-android phone).
So far my experience with the Wildfire S hasn't been stellar (standard HTC rom): the lack of memory made it very hard to really enjoy it: every time an update popped up it was a struggle to get it to install properly.
So I would like to take the opportunity to clear up the phone and install a more ... "comfortable" rom.
I don't have huge requirements: some simple games for the kids to be entertained, some music, check the news ...
My absolute preference is to have a rom that uses very little memory in order to forget about all the headaches I had in the past ~2 years.
So, I started looking for the roms available. My oh my: talking about choice! It's great, of course, but choosing is not straightforward.
Looking here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068879) I see that there is such thing as a "Slim rom" which sound quite attractive from where I am sitting.
So the question is: SlimCM10 o "standard" CM10 (like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136011).
Roms like "ParanoidAndroi" don't seem too attractive to me, not on a screen as tiny as that of the wildfire S.
I would like someone's opinion on this. Perhaps I should look at totally different roms ...
Suggestions?
Thanks!

You have quite a few options.
If you want your kids to play games on, I wouldn't recommend even the SlimCM10 because all it does is removes certain unneeded alps in system. I'm on the normal CM10 and it does lag at times.
CM7 is a good alternative, since it is gingerbread, everything works.
If you want to do a little more work, you can check out the Customized stock ROMs by Crossfire77 and me. They're compatible with most tweaks including the famous v6 Supercharger. After you install this ROM you can install v6 Supercharger, Adrenaline Engine, Pimp my ROM tweaks and even an app called Seeder.
These tweaks and apps will work on all afore mentioned ROMs and will reduce lag by a lot.
Since just CM7 is a bit laggy, installing Seeder would do the trick and you can play games just fine.
You can also look at other sense based ROMs like Wildchild.
Good luck!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire™ S powered by Jelly King®
[HELP THREAD] Official Wildfire S Help Thread!

Hi Lt Win,
thanks for your input: they make sense to me.
Perhaps I'll give first a shot to CM10.* (I see you're on Jelly King, which is CM 10.0, if I understood correctly): do you have memory issues? (I am worried that newer versions of Android are more demanding, in terms of memory, than older ones).
The reason being that I would prefer keeping ICS/JB type of interface on all my phones, which would make it easier to maintain.
The Nexus 4 is on 4.2, I plan to update the HTC Sensation to the latest CM once I familiarize myself with the whole procedure using the Wildfire S as a guinea pig.
Lag is also not a huge issue: as it is today is acceptable (of course, less is better) as I don't plan on using it intensely.
I don't plan to install particularly taxing games: my kids are young so memory game, coloring stuff ... that's plenty.
I'll research more on what are the issues with JB on the Wildfire S and then I'll make the final decision. I can always go back to CM7 if I don't like how it "feels". In which case, I'll go for your custom rom.
Best regards.
Edit: love the jetpack avatar by the way. I like that game!

yankeeDDL said:
Hi Lt Win,
thanks for your input: they make sense to me.
Perhaps I'll give first a shot to CM10.* (I see you're on Jelly King, which is CM 10.0, if I understood correctly): do you have memory issues? (I am worried that newer versions of Android are more demanding, in terms of memory, than older ones).
The reason being that I would prefer keeping ICS/JB type of interface on all my phones, which would make it easier to maintain.
The Nexus 4 is on 4.2, I plan to update the HTC Sensation to the latest CM once I familiarize myself with the whole procedure using the Wildfire S as a guinea pig.
Lag is also not a huge issue: as it is today is acceptable (of course, less is better) as I don't plan on using it intensely.
I don't plan to install particularly taxing games: my kids are young so memory game, coloring stuff ... that's plenty.
I'll research more on what are the issues with JB on the Wildfire S and then I'll make the final decision. I can always go back to CM7 if I don't like how it "feels". In which case, I'll go for your custom rom.
Best regards.
Edit: love the jetpack avatar by the way. I like that game!
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Memory issues, well not so much. I get ~100mb free space on install, and a few apps would probably fill it up. I recommend partitioning your SD Card, flashing a script called INT2EXT so whatever size your partition is, your internal memory will be that much. Battery life is a bit of a problem, I must say. There's more on Mobile Data than WiFi, so you would want to use WiFi more.
Again, seeder, adrenaline engine and v6 Supercharger can nearly kill the lag. Of course, games will be a bit laggy. Heavy games, that is.
The issues on JB are:
*Panorama is weird.
*Camcorder has very low frame rate.
*No USB Tethering. (Using phone as a modem)
ICS issues:
*No camcorder - Wrong colour output.
* Panorama is weird / doesn't work. (I don't remember that well)
*No USB tethering.
CM7 issues:
*Slightly worse camera than stock.
*No USB Tethering.
This should help out on choosing.
P.S. I love Jetpack Joyride, its too much fun!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2

Man, you're a well of info. Thanks! (yes, I clicked the button too)
I plan on using almost exclusively WiFi. In fact, I may get rid of the data altogether (it's the secondary phone after all).
I won't need to use the camera much: mostly still photos for "work" related stuff, so I don't plan to use panorama or camcorder.
Also, no USB tethering.
Which clears me for both ICS and JB.
What I really need the phone for is:
- sync contact (this is actually quite crucial, even though it seems like a trivial feature)
- occasional mail check
- still photos in well lit environments
- listen to podcasts
- occasional gaming
- "portable" storage device
If I can ask one last question about the battery consumption: are you saying that it is especially bad on ICS/JB roms? As in, noticeably worse than with stock gingerbread?
If so, is this also a problem with custom gingerbread roms?
I get a fairly decent battery life with the stock rom, so this was not one of my primary concerns.
Thanks again.

yankeeDDL said:
Man, you're a well of info. Thanks! (yes, I clicked the button too)
I plan on using almost exclusively WiFi. In fact, I may get rid of the data altogether (it's the secondary phone after all).
I won't need to use the camera much: mostly still photos for "work" related stuff, so I don't plan to use panorama or camcorder.
Also, no USB tethering.
Which clears me for both ICS and JB.
What I really need the phone for is:
- sync contact (this is actually quite crucial, even though it seems like a trivial feature)
- occasional mail check
- still photos in well lit environments
- listen to podcasts
- occasional gaming
- "portable" storage device
If I can ask one last question about the battery consumption: are you saying that it is especially bad on ICS/JB roms? As in, noticeably worse than with stock gingerbread?
If so, is this also a problem with custom gingerbread roms?
I get a fairly decent battery life with the stock rom, so this was not one of my primary concerns.
Thanks again.
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The battery life is a problem with data on, so if you're using wifi you're good. However, battery life on standby is much better than stock but if you use data with screen on a lot, you'll get quite a good amount of battery drain.
Other than that, it's just fine. And I would recommend the following custom ROMs:
Gingerbread - Wildchild (based on stock) , CM7.2
ICS - CM9 Alpha 9.
JB - Jelly King, Speed Droid. Although I love jelly king. Ext partition is recommended on ICS and JB. Use INT2EXT.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using Tapatalk 2

I just installed Jelly King 2.0 .... So far it looks quite good. Time will tell.
Thanks again for your help and suggestions.

[Q] Xperia Arc S performance advice

So I'm stuck in a contract with my Xperia Arc S until next year but it has virtually ground to a halt. I have to wait 10+ seconds for my messages to open on a good day. Every app takes a long time to do anything and I've had to limit my app usage heavily due to this.
I close all non-essential apps through the Manage Applications option of the Settings regularly and still I only really have approx >20 MB RAM left at any point.
I also delete all my messages regularly and don't use any other message applications aside from the stock app.
I'm not running ICS, but rather the original Ginger Bread that came with the phone.
I've tried using a different Home Launcher app to reduce the number of home screens, but it had very little noticeable impact.
My question is what do I do? I'm happy to root, install custom roms etc at this point, I just want my phone to be useable until I upgrade next year.
I have some experience with Android phones but very little technical knowledge to do with hacking/rooting devices so you'll have to bear with me. Any advice will be much appreciated.
Cheers

If you are a casual user and you don't need high performance, I recommend upgrading to ICS. ICS update hasn't got the best performance (in fact the GPU is slower than in GB), but you'll get enough free memory for casual usage.
If you are looking a bit of both, I recommend either using CM or CM based roms. If you got used to Xperia look and feel, put this ROM, for better battery life put stock CM. But beware, unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty, so if you think that you will run into issues and can't fix them yourself, do not unlock it.

I've no experience with Ginger Bread, but maybe clearing app cache and rebooting the phone every one or two days could help?
If the performance once was better and you don't want to root: save your apps, messages and contacts and do a factory reset.

stay on gingerbread, root yout phone, remove useless system app and install greenify.

kaz93 said:
stay on gingerbread, root yout phone, remove useless system app and install greenify.
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This
Or try to install some custom rom, they have previusly removed all useless stuff.

I upgraded to ICS to give it a go before I did a factory reset, and I'm really surprised to say my phone has never been faster. Managed to unlock a lot more RAM, app management seems to be a lot less stunted and easier to implement. A few more stock apps than GB and I prefer the look. I'm a bit confused at all the posts saying ICS is worse. Maybe it will slow down over time, but just right now I feel like I got a new phone.

Pale_companion said:
I upgraded to ICS to give it a go before I did a factory reset, and I'm really surprised to say my phone has never been faster. Managed to unlock a lot more RAM, app management seems to be a lot less stunted and easier to implement. A few more stock apps than GB and I prefer the look. I'm a bit confused at all the posts saying ICS is worse. Maybe it will slow down over time, but just right now I feel like I got a new phone.
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If you do not notice the tiny details, you do not notice them.
When you open the phone pad, it does take a while to open it. The notification LED does not work (not performance related though) and some other issues.

Someguyfromhell said:
If you do not notice the tiny details, you do not notice them.
When you open the phone pad, it does take a while to open it. The notification LED does not work (not performance related though) and some other issues.
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....all this bugs(and many others) are fixed now
Inviato da me!

Someguyfromhell said:
If you do not notice the tiny details, you do not notice them.
When you open the phone pad, it does take a while to open it. The notification LED does not work (not performance related though) and some other issues.
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Compared to how my phone was the phone pad is lightning fast. I haven't actually noticed the LED thing but now that you mention it. Of course I'm aware of the CPU issues and other stuff, but I've spent the last few months getting really miffed at my phone because it was basically an expensive brick which took years to open a message and the really negative consensus about ICS put me off updating which has solved all my casual user issues.
Now that I know about this site, I'm going to get to know Android a bit better, but for now the tiny details are negligible for me at least.

Just checked my LED and it works fine for all the notifications I receive.

kaz93 said:
stay on gingerbread, root yout phone, remove useless system app and install greenify.
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Greenify is for HoneyComb and above... You can't install it on GB.

popthosegaskets said:
Greenify is for HoneyComb and above... You can't install it on GB.
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Oh, okay, my mistake then..sorry

Question about Xperia Play Z Ultimate Edition rom (apps closing).

Greetings.
In hopes of finding someone who's facing a similar problem, I'd like to ask you about a certain issue.
I've installed the Xperia Play Z Ultimate Edition rom on my Xplay r800i. It's running all cool and great, but there's one problem. The apps are closing for no reason. It's like, one moment you're playing a game, and all of a sudden the main screen appears, as if you pressed the home button, but the app is gone. It looks like they're crashing when the phone is under heavy load. It happens to literally everything. Even Messenger bubbles often disappear when there's a new heavy app starting.
I've searched the rom's thread, but didn't find any information about such problem.
If this matters, I've flashed the kernel that was supplied by rom creator - 480p DoomKernel.
This is the first rom I've seen which has an issue like that, and I don't think there's any alternative, as this is the only ICS rom I know that keeps all of Xplay's core features while significantly improving speed and functionality.
Please help. Does anyone know why this happens?

Update: out of frustration, I've changed to another ICS rom, Honami 2.1.3, together with switching to a Lupus V7 kernel (ram version)... and the same thing happens. Although with the new rom my phone's performance seems to have DRASTICALLY improved, apps are still closing for no reason. There's not even a popup or error, or anything like that - it just pulls the plug and suddenly kicks me to the main screen.
This problem renders heavy games literally UNPLAYABLE. It runs perfect for like 5 or 10 minutes, with high framerate even, then out of a sudden BAM - back to the main screen. No error, no nothing.
Browsing around Lupus settings I've found something called Low Memory Killer. From what I understand, this thing kills the apps when the device is on critically low memory. Maybe this is the cause? And if it is, why the heck is it "going rogue" and killing apps that I'm ACTIVELY USING? How do I configure this? I assume you can't just disable it...
Please help.

Seriously? No one has ANY IDEA what's happening? Please help! I literally have no clue what may be causing this.
Switched to YET ANOTHER rom and kernel - Nexplay, with bundled Lupus kernel, this time also changing the firmware to R800i_4.0.2.A.0.58_Enhanced. With this one, the phone runs definitely the fastest, but guess what... same thing happens as before. Games commit suicide when played for too long. Out of all I've tested, the only ones that don't shut down are OpenTyrian and Nes emulator. Gun Bros worked fine for like 5 minutes, and suddenly closed, working very slow for like 2 seconds before it happened. Same thing with Vendetta Online but this one outright REBOOTED THE PHONE! And these games supposedly are optimized for xplay, so it doesn't make any sense why there's such a problem going on...
I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's because I'm using ICS roms? But then, I've never seen anybody reporting such problems with ANY rom. This definitely isn't a common issue. I'm also using Link2SD, but again, I've never seen anyone mentioning it causing anything like that.

I can relate to your problem. I've experienced the same (apps randomly closing while in use) issues 1 or 2 years ago and to me the development on these roms are dead since the developers have moved onto newer devices. Currently my xperia play is dead (bricked) however with experience of using many of the roms i can safely say that ICS is not meant for the xperia play. Sony themselves didn't officially release ICS for this device due to the number of bugs and problems associated with it. I'd recommend you to use GB roms to bring out the best potential of your device. ICS lags some way or another whereas GB doesn't. All games run smooth on Gingerbread and they certainly do not have issues like ICS does. The best rom for this device is Gin2kitkat ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631144 ) and my personal favourite Xperia NXT 2 r1 (i've used this rom the longest). Here's the link for that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649368
From experience, as long as you use a Gingerbread rom you should be good to go as they are the most stable for our device. Good luck

Aaw, that's a real bummer. The problem with GB roms is that there's a lot of ICS apps and games that I really need. One of the main reasons I've decided to unlock bootloader on this device is because I wanted to get an upgrade to ICS. It's really strange. I've seen people play advanced games on this phone (example) and there are no signs of problems such as the one I'm experiencing.
Thanks a lot for your reply. I guess I'll use one more ICS rom, and if that fails, I'll give GB roms a try.
Btw, what do you think about NXT Gaming rom? I don't care much about flashy UI and widgets, and as long as everything in the phone works (camera, xLoud etc.) priority for me is gaming performance, and from description, this rom seems to be the most aggresive I've seen when it comes for optimizing performance for games.

I agree, from the vid the user is seen to be running the ROM "ICS Ultimate". Also i haven't tried the NXT gaming rom only the NXT 2r1 but regardless, with that rom i've been able to play emulator games and heavy intensive games such as Fifa 2012. I'd only imagine the 'NXT Gaming rom' is faster and better but since i haven't tried it, i'm unable to give you a direct response, sorry. Anyways Gingerbread will always be the best in terms of gaming performance and functionality, but if you're able to find a good ICS rom that is smooth when playing games such as GTA then it's entirely up to you whether you want to stay on ICS or not. Also correct me if i'm wrong but i remember GTA3 (not san andreas) being playable on gingerbread.

Correct, GTA3 DOES work on Gingerbread, but unfortunately only this one and Vice City do so. GTA San Andreas and Chinatown Wars will not work on anything lower than ICS. This is an example anyway, cuz there are few more things that I need and will work only on ICS.
Anyways, guess what. I've tried YET another Rom from a portuguese site (rom is Fusion ICS 2.4), and the problem stopped - apps no longer spontaneously shut down. There's another problem though... as this system is ridiculously unstable. Sometimes it's fast as lightning, then sometimes it slows down to a crawl for no reason - it has nothing to do with active apps; it often happens with no active apps running and with tons of free ram available. It's completely random. Even the interface sometimes crashes for no reason. Curiously though, all games run extremely fast and they never shut down on their own. Unfortunately, it's not worth using such a train wreck. Games running well while the rest of the system goes haywire defeats the purpose for me.
I'd give "ICS Ultimate" rom a try, but for some reason, I get virus alerts when trying to download or open the file. I guess I'll either wait until it's confirmed false alert, or go for GB roms finally.