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[Q] Gingerbread vs Froyo

Hello
So recently Ive been wondering if its worth to install the Gingerbread over the 2.2 Defrost mod, I cant say im unhappy with it, cuz its awesome but just bored recently and maybe gingerbread runs even smoother and battery is better and has some more functions?
thinking about oxygen rom or villain rom
what do you guys think? also will all the apps work on the gingerbread? cuz heard something like launcher pro doesnt work on gingerbread?
thanks

I am using LauncherPro to write this, all apps work fine. Nandroid and try it out if you don't like it restore Froyo, not that there is anything to dislike.

Launcher Pro works great on Redux too.
I agree with @Kalavere - many of the Gingerbread ROMs are reliable enough for everyday use - give a couple a run and see whether you like it or not. You probably won't go back.

thanks guys for the info, could you just tell me of some visible advantages over froyo? well apart from the different graphics, like any new features etc etc?
just looked at some reviews and dont really see a point of upgrading to gingerbread unless theres some improvements on smoothness, and battery life?

cez10 said:
thanks guys for the info, could you just tell me of some visible advantages over froyo? well apart from the different graphics, like any new features etc etc?
just looked at some reviews and dont really see a point of upgrading to gingerbread unless theres some improvements on smoothness, and battery life?
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Just flash and see, there are screen on and off visualizations, better battery graph logging, new RAM, internal and external memory graphs. And a few other features and bits and bobs.

Using Oxygen for some time now.... Try Gingerbread.... NEVER GO BACK!
Try it > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734

On oxygen v2 rc5 battery lasted longer than now on latest miui (froyo). It wasn't pronounced that much on full load, but with screen turned off, i could get to first night with 80%. On miui, at best, 40-50%.
All the options were the same, and same apps were installed.
I went back to miui because on every other Tom i missed something.
On oxygen v2 rc5 3d didn't work, but that wasn't such a deal breaker for me.

borowatz said:
On oxygen v2 rc5 battery lasted longer than now on latest miui (froyo). It wasn't pronounced that much on full load, but with screen turned off, i could get to first night with 80%. On miui, at best, 40-50%.
All the options were the same, and same apps were installed.
I went back to miui because on every other Tom i missed something.
On oxygen v2 rc5 3d didn't work, but that wasn't such a deal breaker for me.
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That's really bad battery life no offence. Try a different kernel and radio. In 6 hours idle I go down to 90-95%

Is it advisable to update to ICS from Gingerbread on Arc S...?

Should i update my phone to ICS from Gingerbread??
Or its not a good idea?

Performance vs looks
IF you really want a beautiful experience(WITH LAG) of the interface(FOR A LITTLE WHILE) in lieu of the OVERALL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE then please UPDATE TO ICS.
BUT if you want to have a better experience(WITHOUT ANY LAG) with all of the phone's feature THEN STAY WITH THE GB.:angel:
I have tried almost every ICS ROM for the ARC and almost every ROM HAS A LAG(in the beginning it doesn't come into action but after some time when caching of system applications start it's the most HORRIBLE experience with the phone and sometimes you can't even use your phone for call or messaging (LIKE IT'S LAGGING LIKE HEELLL) ):crying:
SO it's upto you..what i think
I AM BACK TO GB FROM ICS
REST IS YOUR CHOICE:good:
plz hit thanks if i helped

ICS consumes more resources, there's no way round that, but a properly configured Arc can easily run ICS with ZERO lag. You do need to be careful what apps you have running in the background - see this post for more details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30809767&postcount=11
Personally, I would never go back to GB. My phone is so much more stable on ICS, you can run a number of tablet-only apps, battery life is significantly improved, etc.
I've not tried the latest Sony rom, but previous ones have not been great - too bloated and sluggish. Custom roms are IMHO definitely the way to go for ICS on the Arc.

Update?
Just Update to the latest .578 ICS and if you feel the device is slow/irresponsive use Bloatware Remover to make RAM consumption better

Xperia Arc Can Handle ICS , Great as GB.
It depends Upon the Developer Of it.

I say go for a try

If i install Sony's official ICS will i lose my root, and will i have to install different kernel? I am currently using doomLord's kernel.

Hi
To upgrade or not to upgrade…
Few days ago I come back to old GB 2.3.4 simply because I have some unfinished business with some games I didn’t finish while on GB – and also sort of compare to what was like to be on GB again comparing to ICS… (anyways it takes me @ 15min to switch to any Android ver. And with CWM backup it a matter of minutes to be back on favorite ROM…)
Man I felt like I was driving on handbrake all this time… you feel like flying fast… no LAG whatsoever it feels great again… speed wise.
From the moment ICS come out I already flashed it via flashtool and rooted, immediately I started to try out different kinds of ROM modes out there… tried like maybe 10 of them (could only use some as I need to stay with locked BootLoader… so no custom kernels.) Anyway after so many months of playing around – the only ROM which suited my needs was JJROM 3.1 – also the look of it is great for me… so I stayed with it… flashed XPERIA S Walkman port + some other little add-ons which made my ROM complete…
Now somebody wrote here that you need to be very careful what you run on ICS ROM in order to be sure it can run smoothly enough… and this is so true…
When buying originally the phone (ARC S) it was supposed to serve me like a little computer machine while I’m away – Internet, mail, GPS, banking, photos, music, movies, YouTube, FB… etc, etc… it supposed to be very flexible and have enough power to do many things with many programs as possible… now with GB I noticed that I’m able to do many more things at once while lag-free then with ICS… I didn’t buy phone just to make calls and SMS – as many users tent to use their smartphones for… for me it have to do some rather heavy duty stuff…
Unfortunately ICS is very memory hungry and I noticed that with time after installing all favorite apps it starts to lag… you don’t notice till you have some reference like trying again GB with the some programs… don’t fall into adverts of different ROM makes that their ROMs are so great and fast – lag free and have so much RAM free – and blah blah… they flash fresh ROM, take few screenshots of fresh install with so much RAM free (zero apps running), then upload some clips on YT so you are amazed at the smoothness… BUT the real life starts after somebody installs their 10+ favorite apps and then can test the ROM in real life… and most of the time you realize that the difference between “before and after” is like night and day… ROM becomes unusable… or lags terribly.
I will be going back to my beloved ICS JJROM3.1 (after I finish the games I can’t on ICS) but I realize that it will never be as fast as GB… I just love the HOLO layout and look of ICS… I miss already some of the ICS options and functions, but the speed of GB is just amazing so I will stay on it to enjoy a bit longer… ha. I guess someone needs to find this “in between” ROM, where he can use as many of his apps as possible and still have reasonable speed left. I have running all GG services, FB Firendcaster, Forum app, weather, RSS reader, maps, Email etc etc and no lag whatsoever – games load fast and run perfectly without any glitches… while playing NOVA, DeadSpace, Shadow Guardian etc I still receive mail and forum/FB/RSS notices in the background and games don’t stop or even shatter for a moment, you don’t feel like there is any problem with having all this background services going on… well with ICS is a bit different, I can still run the some games (exept SG)… with this services, apps etc but it will take longer to load and while receiving notifications games shutter for few sec…
I found GB ROM called JellyBreadV2Arc which is modified version of stock GB which is super for my needs (has removed all FB bloatware + other tweaks) runs really fast…
Anyway – don’t know why I started all this… I guess the question to flash ICS or not is very hard to answer – if you want to try something new and are willing to sacrifice some gaming and a little speed then try it out… there is always way back…
One thing I noticed immediately with GB is battery life, is not as good as on ICS and charging takes longer on GB… which bugs me a bit… I know that with different kernel would improve but I don’t want to unlock BL… so needs to be that way.

ics it's no so bad, i really never used GB too much, but is said that it's better for battery life. I'm happy with ICS.

When I bought my Arc S LT18i, the ICS update was already available. I started using it with gingerbread but then, when I already had the apps I wanted, I decided to update my phone to ICS (4.1.A.0.562). Everything was ok until I booted my phone for the second time after the update. Couldn't unlock my sim and it just freezed. Had this problem for a month. I was so mad! I booted into safe mode, restored using PC Companion but the problem didn't go away. But then came the 2nd ICS update (4.1.B.0.431) and it just fixed things. The 3rd update (4.1.B.0.587) didn't bring any changes as far as I can see. But I still recommend you update to ICS. Or just flash CM9 stable.

Let's just not ask people, try it and see if you like it. Don't get me wrong but we can't help you as we all see ICS differently so you must try it out and see if it suits your everyday life. Also if you don't like it, you can always flash back to GB. Getting the root is simple enough and to find it, Google. Right now I suggest getting ICS because in my point of view, ICS is fast, sleek and beautiful.

badboyofpersia said:
Should i update my phone to ICS from Gingerbread??
Or its not a good idea?
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Let me tell you now to get perfect ics. Once updated to ics, root using eroot toolkit n then install cwm using x-parts. Then go to cwm, flash odexed notification led fix, flash jb adreno drivers. Then boot phone. Now ul have a lot of smoothness and notification bug won't be there. U can then also install titanium backup n remove bloatware for even more speed. For the WiFi dropping problem, flash kernel of .13 firmware. Then ul have the ultimate ics experience. Sony's ics update is incomplete. Do all this n then it'll be a proper update!

Nice Review ,TNKS
What You Think ? Stock ROM Is THE BEST OR NOT ?
amankumar2508007 said:
IF you really want a beautiful experience(WITH LAG) of the interface(FOR A LITTLE WHILE) in lieu of the OVERALL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE then please UPDATE TO ICS.
BUT if you want to have a better experience(WITHOUT ANY LAG) with all of the phone's feature THEN STAY WITH THE GB.:angel:
I have tried almost every ICS ROM for the ARC and almost every ROM HAS A LAG(in the beginning it doesn't come into action but after some time when caching of system applications start it's the most HORRIBLE experience with the phone and sometimes you can't even use your phone for call or messaging (LIKE IT'S LAGGING LIKE HEELLL) ):crying:
SO it's upto you..what i think
I AM BACK TO GB FROM ICS
REST IS YOUR CHOICE:good:
plz hit thanks if i helped
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gius321 said:
What You Think ? Stock ROM Is THE BEST OR NOT ?
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Try it out yourself. Different people have different opinion on different ROMs.
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[Q] play running extremely slow :(

Hey guys, I've had my play for just over a year, I've installed countless roms and had a ball doing it. Unfortunately I think the old girl is struggling to keep up with the last couple of custom roms, cm9.1 and mark phyton's un/official ICS rom. The latter is the one I am running now and even after a reinstall it is nearly unusable, it's extremely laggy and freezes on apps like facebook, kindle and youtube. Ram sits at 30-40mb free, I have link2sd running to free up internal memory and am overclocked to 1.2ghz with setcpu. I know ICS is pushing the limits of the play's capabilities but I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be this bad can anyone suggest anything to try to get better performance please?

ICS roms are not suitable for the play. If u want better performance use a GB rom instead

hypestylez said:
ICS roms are not suitable for the play. If u want better performance use a GB rom instead
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facebook uses alot of resources...also markphytons unofficial rom is quite good I use to have around 130 mb free ram...the rom comes with a very nice app called pimp my rom which it has a good few options into speeding up the rom very handy....
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use my signature as a reference.

Choosing the right ROM for Wildfire S: Slim or "full"?

Hi there,
I have just upgraded from a Wildfire S to a Nexus4. I would like to use the Wildfire S a secondary phone (for which right now I use a very old/crappy/non-android phone).
So far my experience with the Wildfire S hasn't been stellar (standard HTC rom): the lack of memory made it very hard to really enjoy it: every time an update popped up it was a struggle to get it to install properly.
So I would like to take the opportunity to clear up the phone and install a more ... "comfortable" rom.
I don't have huge requirements: some simple games for the kids to be entertained, some music, check the news ...
My absolute preference is to have a rom that uses very little memory in order to forget about all the headaches I had in the past ~2 years.
So, I started looking for the roms available. My oh my: talking about choice! It's great, of course, but choosing is not straightforward.
Looking here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068879) I see that there is such thing as a "Slim rom" which sound quite attractive from where I am sitting.
So the question is: SlimCM10 o "standard" CM10 (like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136011).
Roms like "ParanoidAndroi" don't seem too attractive to me, not on a screen as tiny as that of the wildfire S.
I would like someone's opinion on this. Perhaps I should look at totally different roms ...
Suggestions?
Thanks!

You have quite a few options.
If you want your kids to play games on, I wouldn't recommend even the SlimCM10 because all it does is removes certain unneeded alps in system. I'm on the normal CM10 and it does lag at times.
CM7 is a good alternative, since it is gingerbread, everything works.
If you want to do a little more work, you can check out the Customized stock ROMs by Crossfire77 and me. They're compatible with most tweaks including the famous v6 Supercharger. After you install this ROM you can install v6 Supercharger, Adrenaline Engine, Pimp my ROM tweaks and even an app called Seeder.
These tweaks and apps will work on all afore mentioned ROMs and will reduce lag by a lot.
Since just CM7 is a bit laggy, installing Seeder would do the trick and you can play games just fine.
You can also look at other sense based ROMs like Wildchild.
Good luck!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire™ S powered by Jelly King®
[HELP THREAD] Official Wildfire S Help Thread!

Hi Lt Win,
thanks for your input: they make sense to me.
Perhaps I'll give first a shot to CM10.* (I see you're on Jelly King, which is CM 10.0, if I understood correctly): do you have memory issues? (I am worried that newer versions of Android are more demanding, in terms of memory, than older ones).
The reason being that I would prefer keeping ICS/JB type of interface on all my phones, which would make it easier to maintain.
The Nexus 4 is on 4.2, I plan to update the HTC Sensation to the latest CM once I familiarize myself with the whole procedure using the Wildfire S as a guinea pig.
Lag is also not a huge issue: as it is today is acceptable (of course, less is better) as I don't plan on using it intensely.
I don't plan to install particularly taxing games: my kids are young so memory game, coloring stuff ... that's plenty.
I'll research more on what are the issues with JB on the Wildfire S and then I'll make the final decision. I can always go back to CM7 if I don't like how it "feels". In which case, I'll go for your custom rom.
Best regards.
Edit: love the jetpack avatar by the way. I like that game!

yankeeDDL said:
Hi Lt Win,
thanks for your input: they make sense to me.
Perhaps I'll give first a shot to CM10.* (I see you're on Jelly King, which is CM 10.0, if I understood correctly): do you have memory issues? (I am worried that newer versions of Android are more demanding, in terms of memory, than older ones).
The reason being that I would prefer keeping ICS/JB type of interface on all my phones, which would make it easier to maintain.
The Nexus 4 is on 4.2, I plan to update the HTC Sensation to the latest CM once I familiarize myself with the whole procedure using the Wildfire S as a guinea pig.
Lag is also not a huge issue: as it is today is acceptable (of course, less is better) as I don't plan on using it intensely.
I don't plan to install particularly taxing games: my kids are young so memory game, coloring stuff ... that's plenty.
I'll research more on what are the issues with JB on the Wildfire S and then I'll make the final decision. I can always go back to CM7 if I don't like how it "feels". In which case, I'll go for your custom rom.
Best regards.
Edit: love the jetpack avatar by the way. I like that game!
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Memory issues, well not so much. I get ~100mb free space on install, and a few apps would probably fill it up. I recommend partitioning your SD Card, flashing a script called INT2EXT so whatever size your partition is, your internal memory will be that much. Battery life is a bit of a problem, I must say. There's more on Mobile Data than WiFi, so you would want to use WiFi more.
Again, seeder, adrenaline engine and v6 Supercharger can nearly kill the lag. Of course, games will be a bit laggy. Heavy games, that is.
The issues on JB are:
*Panorama is weird.
*Camcorder has very low frame rate.
*No USB Tethering. (Using phone as a modem)
ICS issues:
*No camcorder - Wrong colour output.
* Panorama is weird / doesn't work. (I don't remember that well)
*No USB tethering.
CM7 issues:
*Slightly worse camera than stock.
*No USB Tethering.
This should help out on choosing.
P.S. I love Jetpack Joyride, its too much fun!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2

Man, you're a well of info. Thanks! (yes, I clicked the button too)
I plan on using almost exclusively WiFi. In fact, I may get rid of the data altogether (it's the secondary phone after all).
I won't need to use the camera much: mostly still photos for "work" related stuff, so I don't plan to use panorama or camcorder.
Also, no USB tethering.
Which clears me for both ICS and JB.
What I really need the phone for is:
- sync contact (this is actually quite crucial, even though it seems like a trivial feature)
- occasional mail check
- still photos in well lit environments
- listen to podcasts
- occasional gaming
- "portable" storage device
If I can ask one last question about the battery consumption: are you saying that it is especially bad on ICS/JB roms? As in, noticeably worse than with stock gingerbread?
If so, is this also a problem with custom gingerbread roms?
I get a fairly decent battery life with the stock rom, so this was not one of my primary concerns.
Thanks again.

yankeeDDL said:
Man, you're a well of info. Thanks! (yes, I clicked the button too)
I plan on using almost exclusively WiFi. In fact, I may get rid of the data altogether (it's the secondary phone after all).
I won't need to use the camera much: mostly still photos for "work" related stuff, so I don't plan to use panorama or camcorder.
Also, no USB tethering.
Which clears me for both ICS and JB.
What I really need the phone for is:
- sync contact (this is actually quite crucial, even though it seems like a trivial feature)
- occasional mail check
- still photos in well lit environments
- listen to podcasts
- occasional gaming
- "portable" storage device
If I can ask one last question about the battery consumption: are you saying that it is especially bad on ICS/JB roms? As in, noticeably worse than with stock gingerbread?
If so, is this also a problem with custom gingerbread roms?
I get a fairly decent battery life with the stock rom, so this was not one of my primary concerns.
Thanks again.
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The battery life is a problem with data on, so if you're using wifi you're good. However, battery life on standby is much better than stock but if you use data with screen on a lot, you'll get quite a good amount of battery drain.
Other than that, it's just fine. And I would recommend the following custom ROMs:
Gingerbread - Wildchild (based on stock) , CM7.2
ICS - CM9 Alpha 9.
JB - Jelly King, Speed Droid. Although I love jelly king. Ext partition is recommended on ICS and JB. Use INT2EXT.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using Tapatalk 2

I just installed Jelly King 2.0 .... So far it looks quite good. Time will tell.
Thanks again for your help and suggestions.

[Q] Which ROM? Or back to Stock for a fast phone

Hello
I have enjoyed having djolivier's JB ROM in my phone. But it is still so much slower than Stock. I need to be able to dial, text and search straight away. I have a class 10 SD, I'm using Int2Ext+ I don't have a lot of apps, I only partitioned 512MB to try and speed it up.
I upgraded to get the Gmail App with Primary Inbox etc. but Gmail is so slow I hardly use it
Do I need to go back to stock with Link2SD? Or Stock with Int2Ext+? Or is there a ROM out there that is really actually so fast that the app opens when you touch it - not 5 or 25 laggy seconds later?
This may not be the correct place for this - but I don't get straight answers on other sections of the forum.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
Chris

Hello. First of all I have to tell you that in my oppinion, the Wildfire S hardware is a bit weak, so you can't avoid the 5 laggy seconds for an app to open... But, I 'll tell you which roms are the fastest for me.
1. Stock. This is what I use. I like its performance, but I dislike it visually. I use a Sense 4 theme and live with it.
2. CM9. I my oppinion the fastest custom rom until now. It lacks one thing: Video recording. Someone could talk about the laggy video playback but Henry_01 modified some lib files in his MIUI port, and video playback is working there. So I replaced the libs in CM9 and it worked too. So If you don't care about video recording you can use this one.
3. JDevs upcoming update seems a lot promising to me, and this is what I'm waiting for to replace stock.
As for the scripts, in terms of speed:
Link2sd > int2ext+ >int2ext
I use stock android 2.3.5 Sense 2.1 with Link2sd.
This is what I think is the best, until now.
edit: I forgot the Cyanogenmod 10.1 by OWL project, it's good and fast too. But in my opinion cm9 is better, in terms of performance.

polfrank said:
As for the scripts, in terms of speed:
Link2sd > int2ext+ >int2ext
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Thanks so much for your response. One follow up question. You're saying Link2SD is the best for speed? When I installed a JB rom without int2ext there was not enough memory to even start installing apps..... did I do something wrong? I don't want to go back to the days of uninstalling apps so I can update the ones with large memory etc.
Chris

ChrisChorlton said:
Thanks so much for your response. One follow up question. You're saying Link2SD is the best for speed? When I installed a JB rom without int2ext there was not enough memory to even start installing apps..... did I do something wrong? I don't want to go back to the days of uninstalling apps so I can update the ones with large memory etc.
Chris
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I'm glad to help
You 're right. Link2sd worked succesfully only on GB and ICS for me too. You didn't do anything wrong, so use only int2ext(+) with JB.....

polfrank said:
Hello. First of all I have to tell you that in my oppinion, the Wildfire S hardware is a bit weak, so you can't avoid the 5 laggy seconds for an app to open... But, I 'll tell you which roms are the fastest for me.
1. Stock. This is what I use. I like its performance, but I dislike it visually. I use a Sense 4 theme and live with it.
2. CM9. I my oppinion the fastest custom rom until now. It lacks one thing: Video recording. Someone could talk about the laggy video playback but Henry_01 modified some lib files in his MIUI port, and video playback is working there. So I replaced the libs in CM9 and it worked too. So If you don't care about video recording you can use this one.
3. JDevs upcoming update seems a lot promising to me, and this is what I'm waiting for to replace stock.
As for the scripts, in terms of speed:
Link2sd > int2ext+ >int2ext
I use stock android 2.3.5 Sense 2.1 with Link2sd.
This is what I think is the best, until now.
edit: I forgot the Cyanogenmod 10.1 by OWL project, it's good and fast too. But in my opinion cm9 is better, in terms of performance.
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Would you mind linking to which CM9 ROM you would suggest? Trying to breathe some life into my phone again.

Grorbabrag said:
Would you mind linking to which CM9 ROM you would suggest? Trying to breathe some life into my phone again.
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For me this is the best CM9 rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245617&highlight=slimsandwich
As it is, it has 2 bugs: no camera recording and slightly buggy video playback. If you want, I can fix the video playback and provide it to you tomorrow.
Although, I would suggest that you wait for the next big project by the owl team, based on android 4.2.2.
edit: Better use this link to SlimSandwich, as here, in xda it's not the latest version posted: https://teamblueridge.org/projects/files/
Rom > Marvel > Slimsandwich-marvel
Or tell me to give it to you with working libs for video playback.

Thanks for the info. The problem with owls project is that WiFi tethering is and has been broken for a long time and I hardly see them fixing it. I'll try out slimsandwich. I'm mainly looking for a fast, responsive ROM, not many features.
Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013) using xda app-developers app

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