I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!
I'm running PA 3.65 on lk 7. Oc'd to 1.3 ghz. Phone seems pretty fluid to me. Definitely there is a difference between my phone and say, a Galaxy s3, but it's not to where it makes me feel my phone is obsolete. Plus, the gnex has a great development base with not only Roms but kernels as well. This extends the lives of our devices greatly. I plan to stick and wait it out a while longer myself.
My advice, delve deeper into your gnex and try some more combinations and tweaks. See if there's something you could do. Currently I've been on a governor binge--trying all the various governors, looking for the best for me, battery-wise and performance. Overall I'm happy.
Hope this helps.
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lourivellini said:
I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!
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I'm on stock 4.2.2 which is rooted and I've modified certain elements using Paul O'Brien's MoDaCo Toolkit (which uses the Xposed Framework Mod). I think about upgrading from time to time but never because I feel I need to. I am more than happy with my Galaxy Nexus (bearing in mind I don't play intensive games).
I would wait a bit longer and see what the LG Optimus G2 is like and maybe upgrade early 2014. The next Nexus might be released in November anyway.
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if u want the S4, go for the Snapdragon version coz it has more development goin on
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My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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mrgnex said:
My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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+1 to that
maybe time slowed down for him xD
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"Upgrade" to android 4.1 and your phone will suddenly seem like less of a bag.
Seraz007 said:
+1 to that
maybe time slowed down for him xD
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At least he can try
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mrgnex said:
My phone is amazingly fast. I dont zee any lag and I dare tot say it is faster then my friends sgs3. I am using XenonHD 11.1 and Aspk b11 kernel..
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I don't think the phone is really slow, it's just that the amount of memory available is starting to be a problem. When you have plenty of memory the phone is fine, but between the OS, Chrome, the new Hangouts, the new Music player, and whatever else you have running you can quickly run out of memory and when all your background apps are restarting the phone is definitely not smooth.
Since 4.2.2 the Gnex started to be more laggy. If you use a custom rom and kernel (i.e. CM 10.1 based rom and fancy or franco or ak kernel) you can indeed tweak it up so it feels quite fast again, then again, the battery drains like crazy, a solution for this is buy an extended 3800mAh battery (I've one in my Nexus and it at least doubles the battery life, means you EASILY get through the day, even with overclocked settings and heavy use).
Imo it's still a very nice device.. But don't expect quad core performance from a 2011 dual core phone
My Note 2 with AOSP 4.2.2 rom absolutely is a beast and battery life is awesome (stock 3100mAh battery).
So long story short, if you overall still like your nexus: install CM 10.1 and i.e. fancy kernel, overclock it to about 1.4GHz, get the extended 3800mAh battery and it will make a big difference already to stock.
If you have enough money aside and feel like having something new, get a SGS4 or HTC One (awesome design), or if you like a big screen on top of that like me, I definitely recommend the Note 2 (it's considerably cheaper than the SGS4 and in terms of performance with irl use the difference is not really noticeable), or wait for the Note 3 .
When is a downgrade an upgrade?
lourivellini said:
I was hoping to get maybe a little longer out of my gnex, considering that IMO i dont do very taxing things, and when i bought it - those things seemed to work fine.
In the past few months, i started using google music - and the phone is simply too slow to keep up. Besides that, all i do is listen to a few podcasts, gmail, etc, but everything seems like its in slow motion. Chrome is unbearable - i just avoid using it anymore. The funny thing is that i dont remember this phone being THAT slow. I know overtime, my definition of slow will change as faster phones come out, but i have almost no experience with anything newer than my phone. Even my captivate seems about as fast as the nexus - which is a VERY old phone.
Right now im running slimbean from about a month ago.
Anyone else having these troubles? Anything i can do to speed it up a bit?
Im probably gonna pick up a gs4 nexus once i see it for a little less than its selling for now. Which model is the best to buy? Id be running AOSP software on whichever one i pick, so strictly hardware wise - which is the best? Do i want the one from korea with the octacore whatever - or should i go with ATT/tmobiles version? Which version does google play sell? What about the gs4 active? Ive heard the internals are a bit different, and its not AMOLED like the others.
Thanks for any advice!
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Before you write your phone off, try going back to 4.1.2. I've been using MiNCO v5 (which was my favourite 4.1.2 ROM, comes with franco's milestone 6 and is super stable and minimal.) Just flash v2.1 of this transformation pack as if it were a gapps package (actual gapps are already built into the ROM)
Your phone will have all the 4.2.2 goodies (except toggles and LS widgets, but there's an app for that) with none of the slow sluggish feel.
Try it. I promise you won't be disappointed.
P.S This mod and crossbreeder are the only 2 additions I'd STRONGLY reccomend. The first unifies the "holo" theme of stock JB (read the thread, it's awesome!) and the second does some amazing things which include system wide adblocking and smooth DNS caching just for starters.
P.P.S If you go back to 4.1.2 just make sure you have the latest radio for your region and DON'T RESTORE SYSTEM APPS FROM TITANIUM BACKUP.
thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.
lourivellini said:
thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.
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Try greenify instead of faffing about with freeze and unfreeze in TB. Also, this might be the radio you want, I'm not sure if you're gsm or cdma on AT&T (I'm from the UK) so the best way is to check in your settings on your current setup:
Settings>About phone>Baseband version
Though I'd highly recommend reading the thread just to check, it's amazing how big the change is when using an out of date radio.
pfmiller said:
I don't think the phone is really slow, it's just that the amount of memory available is starting to be a problem. When you have plenty of memory the phone is fine, but between the OS, Chrome, the new Hangouts, the new Music player, and whatever else you have running you can quickly run out of memory and when all your background apps are restarting the phone is definitely not smooth.
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I'm no expert but it seems to me that Android devices are similar to Windows in respect to slowing down over time. I think the complexity of today's apps contribute greatly to a phones alitity to keep up but not as much as you may think. I uses chache cleaner ng to get rid of a good portion of garbage on a regular basis and once in awile a fresh flash really speeds things up again. Don't forget about all those apps we think we need but never use. Get rid of them.
I ran errands today Streaming Slacker Radio, running navigation, and answering and making phone calls and my phone never game me a reason to think it was time to a new one.
Here is my solution - I suffered the same problem like you.
First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
The problem is that the storage is not trimmed properly. You can use Lagfix to trim storage. Try it, it will work.
But the real solution is to factory reset your mobile (I mean wiping everything, restore the original system and root again). This way the storage will be trimmed too and it will be blazing fast again. If you leave at least 3GB free storage, the slowdown won't happen too soon again. Although a 4.2.2 ROM will then be fast too, the real speed you will only get with 4.1.2 (I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
That's my experience and I won't change my ROM until Android 5 is out... :fingers-crossed:
I get where you're coming from, but the GNex has a dual-core processer, with 1gb of RAM, if its feeling slow because you've been playing with you're friends quad-core phones with twice the RAM, then its definitely time to upgrade because no matter what ROM or Kernel you use, you're going to notice the difference. IMO I love my GNex, I'm running AOKP 4.2.2 and I couldn't be happier for the moment. However, when the Nexus 5 comes out I'll be the first in line.
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(I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
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Do you have a download link? I can only find that ROM for other devices than GNex.
I'm coming from Liquid Smooth 2.5 and running CM 10.0 since a few days. So far so good, but I'm missing a few features of Liquid Smooth and would love to give it a try again... Thanks!!
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hudl said:
First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
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I know how Android memory management works, and that's exactly what I'm taking about. When apps get stopped it makes the phone slower because the apps need to be started again when you go back to them.
hudl said:
Here is my solution - I suffered the same problem like you.
First, it has nothing to do with low memory. Android stops "old" apps, if it needs memory. There are about 1 million posts about that (wrong) story - but no one wants to listen to it
The problem is that the storage is not trimmed properly. You can use Lagfix to trim storage. Try it, it will work.
But the real solution is to factory reset your mobile (I mean wiping everything, restore the original system and root again). This way the storage will be trimmed too and it will be blazing fast again. If you leave at least 3GB free storage, the slowdown won't happen too soon again. Although a 4.2.2 ROM will then be fast too, the real speed you will only get with 4.1.2 (I'm using Liquidsmooth 2rc8 - fast, stable, feature rich).
That's my experience and I won't change my ROM until Android 5 is out... :fingers-crossed:
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Trimming /data trims the storage as well as storage is /data/media. I don't think every phone is affected by this trim problem as they don't all use the same emmc (see the trim thread in this forum).
I also agree with you 100% that 4.1.2 performed a lot faster for me than 4.2.2 on my Galaxy Nexus. I don't think the hardware of the Galaxy Nexus or even the Nexus 7 fully handled Android 4.2 smoothly. Software optimizations could improve that. Actually on my HTC One on the GE (AOSP like) version of 4.2.2, the UI could get a little jittery.
While I agree with you that Android killing apps is normal when it runs low on memory, I can confirm CM10 killed apps a lot less often than CM10.1. Even with the memory leak patches implemented earlier this year into CM10.1, my RAM would get low enough that the lowmemorykiller would kick into gear a lot more often than CM10. I don't think this is the only cause of slowness in Android 4.2 but it can contribute. The most likely candidate is systemUI which Google changed how it works as in 4.2 it shows the background on the launcher in recents instead of overlaying recents on top of your current app. As that has to load the wallpaper from the launcher it may slow down if it has to pull it from memory.
PS. You say you won't change your ROM until Android 5 is out but 4.3 may fix a lot of the issues in 4.2 and the updated bluetooth support is a must have for users with Low Energy devices.
lourivellini said:
thanks for all the responses. I think ill try the few roms and kernels you guys suggested before bailing on this phone. I personally like my rom to be as close to stock as possible, which is why ive been using slim bean for so long. I think ill try CM first before any other rom, or possibly going back to 4.1 like someone suggested.
Since available memory is probably the issue, is it worth using titanium backup to freeze apps that I never use? I dont use hangouts or anything like that.
Like i said i really dont ever play games or anything, these are the only apps I ever use:
Stock apps: phone, gmail, messaging, calendar, camera, gallery, calculator, clock, play store
aldiko
chrome
doggcatcher
drive
dropbox
fitbit (does not sync with tracker)
gmote
keep (installed but i never really use)
maps/nav/street view
NOVA launcher (forgot about this - could this be the source of my lag?)
play music (like i mentioned this destroys my phone)
reddit is fun
screen filter
seekdroid
smart voice recorder
swype (much better than stock gestures)
tapatalk
titanium backup
voice
youtube
Gonna go try some roms and report back.
@Seraz007 - which is the snapdragon version? The one google is selling directly?
@kaoskilo - how do i know which radio i should be using? I use AT&T and im located in CT, USA.
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U live in the US? then u should've no problem gettin the snapdragon version
Snapdragon version is the quad core one not exynos( Octa core)
More devving for the Quad Core one since samsung didn't release exynos source code
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I really love my Nexus. Gorgeous, perfectly sized 720p display, super sleek black curved display with NO carrier branding or capacitive buttons, nice loud speakerphone & ICS is fantastic. Great things to love about the Nexus!
But this phone Laaaaaaaaaaaaaags. And please don't tell me i got a bad one, or I need to reflash yada yada. If you don't agree about the lag, then you are in denial.
I'm currently running AKOP 4 & Francos 3rd Milestone + oc'd to 1.35.
I'll admit, his latest kernel sped it up again, but it seems like its only temporary. With every flash, it always starts out fast, but then after 2 weeks - it starts to slow down again.
Where do I notice it? Well lets see, try pulling down your status bar from the lock screen and see if there sometimes isn't a 1 or 2 sec delay. Is this due to the phone just waking up from being asleep at 300 mhz?
But its not just there. Opening text messages, call log, emails - its just slow.
I just kinda got used to the general lag in the system, but then I played with a Stock Galaxy s2 on GB the other day & I was amazed at how fast that phone was. It ran circles around my nexus.
So I got to thinking, on older computers with slower processors - if you try and run youtube at 720p @ full screen, it gets super choppy and laggy. Then I compared that to the nexus. Its trying to push ALOT of pixels. Is a 1.35 ghz processor enough for the resolution it runs?
Would a 1.5 or 1.7 ghz phone run it normally?
Whats with the Lag???
Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
Lol well I tried, enjoy Odin and touch wiz
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shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
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Google Play won't carry - it's not a Google phone. It will be sold the same way the Galaxy S2 was.
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ChongoDroid said:
Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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This, also, maybe try running something other than AOKP for a while. Though its really customisable, it isn't exactly the snappiest ROM.
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shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
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roflmao. Google Play won't carry it. Its not a Google phone... It'll be sold by your local carrier or importer.
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EyeAndroid said:
But this phone Laaaaaaaaaaaaaags. And please don't tell me i got a bad one, or I need to reflash yada yada. If you don't agree about the lag, then you are in denial.
I'm currently running AKOP 4 & Francos 3rd Milestone + oc'd to 1.35.
I'll admit, his latest kernel sped it up again, but it seems like its only temporary. With every flash, it always starts out fast, but then after 2 weeks - it starts to slow down again.
Where do I notice it? Well lets see, try pulling down your status bar from the lock screen and see if there sometimes isn't a 1 or 2 sec delay. Is this due to the phone just waking up from being asleep at 300 mhz?
But its not just there. Opening text messages, call log, emails - its just slow.
I just kinda got used to the general lag in the system, but then I played with a Stock Galaxy s2 on GB the other day & I was amazed at how fast that phone was. It ran circles around my nexus.
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I'm bone stock 4.0.4 and don't have any of this lag you're talking of. Essentially perfect, very few noticeable moments of lag.
This phone isn't laggy. You're just doing it wrong.
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ChongoDroid said:
Franco milestones are stock gpu values so overclocking your CPU isn't doing much. I'm running the latest trinity and it's got a heavy gpu overclock and this phone is the smoothest Android GUI I've ever experienced and I've experienced a lot.
So yes yadayada, reflash, etc etc
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Hmm well I have never tried the Trinity kernel, just thought everyone raves about franco so why switch? Didn't know the GPU would effect general performance. Always thought it was just for gaming. Trinity can be OC'd?
Too MUCH pRon
shadow65781 said:
Thanks for this. I was on the fence between this or waiting for the gs3, currently running stock gb with adw pro on an exynos gs2, guess I'll just keep saving for the unlocked gs3 and hope Google Play carries it.
Don't bait the trolls.
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Ya man, never been a huge fan of the S2 due to the general design of the phone + I hate touchwiz and odin.
Yesterday I was fed up & Just put in an order for an HTC One S but then cancelled it today when I heard the speakerphone and saw how amplified the dots of the pixels really can get when you run Super Amoled on a 960 x 540 res.
LOVE LOVE LOVE Stock ICS.
Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
I just know that I run stock 4.0.4 + root, and it works just fine, no lag whatsoever... But, since you say your phone has a loud speakerphone, it must not be the Galaxy Nexus lol... At least not an Ok one, because it surely has one of the worst speakerphone I have ever heard... And don't call me Shirley!
earlyberd said:
Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
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You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
HinotoriBR said:
I just know that I run stock 4.0.4 + root, and it works just fine, no lag whatsoever... But, since you say your phone has a loud speakerphone, it must not be the Galaxy Nexus lol... At least not an Ok one, because it surely has one of the worst speakerphone I have ever heard... And don't call me Shirley!
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You must not have Owned any HTC phones
"Surely you cant be serious??!?"
"I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley"
earlyberd said:
Learn to clean out your recent apps menu. Google integrated a task manager into the recent apps menu for a reason.
Your phone lags because it's running low on memory, and 99% of developers suck at memory management. Just because you don't have a taskbar at the bottom of the screen telling you how many apps you have open doesn't mean there probably isn't something that you left open, hogging your system resources. The same thing has happened on desktop computers for years, what makes you think your phone is going to act any different?
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This is not at all necessary...
martonikaj said:
This is not at all necessary...
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Why do you say that?
(As i Just got finished downloading ATK)
EyeAndroid said:
You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
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i have a SG2...getting my nexus delivered tomorrow so i started browsing the nexus section...
for starters on any android you shouldnt press home unless you are leaving the app for a brief moment and are planning on going back to it...home will keep the app running...you have to use the back key to close out of many apps (especially the ones that dont have a designated exit button)
app management is very crucial but auto killing isnt good for the system...android will close apps on its own as space is needed...however there are certain apps that are service hogs and eat up ram...i am somewhat of an app hoarder but i know which apps to keep and which to get rid of...normally if you have like 120mb of free ram or so a dual core phone shouldnt ever lag...if it lags its not due to memory
on my SG2 i have like 200+ apps but almost always have like 250mb ram free (even without a reboot for several days)...on the rare occasions that i feel it lag i check and sometimes i will see that it dropped down to like 80mb free...a quick reboot fixes it
its also good to reboot your phone every few days
I'm reading a bone stock sprint galaxy nexus. I have no lag at all. And I'm coming from an epic touch. In my experience custom rom's slow down after a while. Which is why I usually stay stock with root.
EyeAndroid said:
You could be right on this. I dont ever restart my phone and I always just Go home when I'm done. Any way to have it auto kill after about an Hour or so?
Im surprised Thats not something Google would have implemented in ICS just for performance?
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You want to try to avoid automated task killers because they can lead to stability issues if they're too aggressive, and as an additional background process they have the potential to eat your battery life. The safest way to kill apps is just by swiping them away with the recent apps menu.
Google tries really hard to implement a good system of memory management in Android, the problem is just that developers don't really utilize it. You can clearly see the difference especially if you like to run alternative browsers or old games. All of the stock Google apps work great and I can keep them open forever, but if I leave StumbleUpon or Plants Vs. Zombies open in the background long enough my phone will start to chug.
Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards
Thaenor said:
Greetings,
I've been around for some time, lurking mostly. And installing a ROM with ICS or JB on my Galaxy W was a wonderful way to innovate. It feels like I'm using a brand new phone, which is awesome.
I have tried Cyanogen mod and Paranoid Android and even the PAC roms. But the issue I run while using them is that my ram seems to be full most of the time, and it's filled with system apps more than my own apps. Which limits the phone seriously. I am almost unable to use Swiftkey for typing online or even messages, since it lags too much the phone.
I plan on keeping a couple of apps like a battery saver, Aviate launcher and occasionally a traffic monitor app like 3g Watchdog.I've been thinking about going back to Gingerbread versions, although new ones seem more enticing with features/apps like Google now.
I'm breaking my question in two parts:
1 - Can a more advanced android version like JB (or maybe KK) help make the system faster and the ram management more efficient? Or should I stick with a rom similar to stock?
2 - What roms do you recommend? Which Kernel? Or should I just face the fact my phone won't be able to comply with my current needs and I should ask Santa for an iPhone?
thanks
Reggards
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try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied
Ahmed.ragab said:
try flashing one of a kind by ipromeh ... I think u will be satisfied
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Thank you, I'll give it a try on the stable version.
For future reference, and to save the trouble for other people who may come here and need to search the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120340
Thank you very much.
PS: in the mean time I'm open to more suggestions, just in case.
U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952
mirosz said:
U should also give a try to monster build rev16. Im using it as daily build and its really light weight.
Thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39771952
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The rom crashes the settings applet everytime I try to change language to Portuguese.
Can't add widgets with aviate launcher (settings crashes)
otherwise seems alright.
I’ve had the GNex since the day it came out. Unlocked bootloader, flashed a new rom and did everything from there.
I’ve noticed that with every new nightly build, there was always a bug here and there which made it felt like this phone was never really solid.
Don’t get me wrong. I love this phone and it has served me well.
Recently, I bought the nexus 5 for my wife. Instantly, it felt a billion times faster right out of the box compared to my custom GNex.
It got me thinking, was the GNex always been THIS SLOW and LAGGY? Or is it the wrong ROM I’ve been using all this time? I’ve went from PA to AOKP to Slim and now Liquid. I’ve used the latest Kitkat on all and there’s ALWAYS this super bad lag after using it for a few days.
It got to the point where I did a FULL DATA WIPE on every new nightly that came out.
I’ve always done the following when installing a new ROM:
1. Wipe Data
2. Wipe cache
3. Wipe dalvik
4. Reboot into recovery again. Repeat 1-3 then install new ROM, then gapps.
5. Reboot phone one last time to finalize.
The new ROM always feels smooth/fast in the beginning, but after a while, it feels like $H*t.
I've also tried this with different combination of kernels such as Franco, Dirty V and with ART enable and disabled.
Any difference is negligible and doesn't seem to vastly improve performance.
I don’t have many apps. In fact, 95% of the apps I use are google apps (gmail, etc) Then I have pandora, evernote and a couple of other productive apps and that’s about it.
So what’s really slowing down my GNex? Too many flashes in the past 2-years? Bad ROM? Bad installation?
Or has it always been like this and I just haven’t noticed how slow/laggy it was?
Your help would be appreciated. I really don’t want to jump onto a new phone quite yet.
First of all dont even try to compare it to the Nexus 5. Its just a newer phone.. Of course its faster. My phone is flying. Things age over time. Soaybe your device is just aging. And with the right kernel and settings you can make your phone really fast. I never had lag but I had faster and slower roms or kernels.. Its what you make of it and what you think is lag..
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mrgnex said:
First of all dont even try to compare it to the Nexus 5. Its just a newer phone.. Of course its faster. My phone is flying. Things age over time. Soaybe your device is just aging. And with the right kernel and settings you can make your phone really fast. I never had lag but I had faster and slower roms or kernels.. Its what you make of it and what you think is lag..
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 5 are just different generations of the family, they ought to have differences. In my opinion, no matter how you optimize our Galaxy Nexus, it can run nicely, the animations can be mostly smooth, but it just couldn't catch up to a Nexus 5, mostly in apps' loading speed and other things that requires sheer CPU power. Sure, it doesn't even catch up to my properly optimized Nexus 4.
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nexus 5 is best...
GNex 5 is not comparable to Nexus 5.I have tried GNex earlier and i am quite dissatisfied from it.Now i switched to Nexus 5 and there no hanging problem in nexus 5 at all and provide good memory usage.
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
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Have you gave Vanir a try? If you haven't already well maybe you should because this is by far the smoothest/fastest ROM available for the Gnex. It may lag here and there but it is certainly tolerable given that this a 2+ year old phone.
Comparing the gnex to any current flagship phone is kind of silly considering they all contain the latest and greatest in CPU's/GPU's + more ram . So obviously there will be significant differences in terms of performance...not sure why you would expect anything else.
Give vanir a try and see if your Gnex runs a little better. PA AOKP and CM11 are noticeably laggier than Vanir...don't know why but they just are. If Vanir doesn't make your Gnex experience any better well just deal with it until you buy a new phone.
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In that case, please share your every details. I'd love to try them out and give new life to my GNex.
Which ROM, which kernel, performance, every main settings etc...
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Vanir with dirtyv/askp/askpremix (what i feel like lol) and nephs settings..
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It's just that I don't recall the phone being THIS SLOW compared last year or a few months ago when JB was around.
It definitely feels so much more laggier these days.
Has it been a global change in all the ROMs that infected all gnex roms?
Compared to newer phones our Galaxy Nexus is slower i think. I got my Mum the Motorola Moto G and it does seem a lot more responsive than my Galaxy Nexus running the CM11 M4 Build.
However i do have a lot of apps running in the background such as Facebook, WhatsApp, Push Email and so on, the Moto G was a fresh phone with nothing on.
I do feel the Galaxy Nexus is significantly faster with a 4.4 rom, compared to 4.3 or 4.2, however its not as snappy as a newer device, which considering the phone is 2 and a half years old i dont think you can expect it to be.
I think also apps get more demanding, i mean WhatsApp is getting huge now and using more ram, as are other apps you likely use on a daily basis.
I dont have lag.. Maybe you can share your setup/settings with us? And the Moto G is a newer phone with F2FS this makes it faster.. Also please dont use the facebook app. It slows your device and eats battery and ram. Probably all developers here will tell you the app should be banned from google play.
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Here's a list of exactly all the apps on my phone right now:
Stock browser
Stock calculator
Stock calendar
Stock camera
Stock Clock
Stock Document
Stock Downloads
Stock Gallery
Stock Messaging
Stock news/weather
Stock People
Stock Phone
Stock voice dialer
Google Chrome browser
Google Chrome to Phone
Google Drive
Google Gmail
Google
Google Settings
Google Play Music
Google Play store
Google Voice
Liquid Explorer (Came with liquid smooth)
"music" (Came with Liquid smooth)
Omniswitch (Came with LS)
Torch (came with LS)
Dropbox
Netflix
Pandora
Settings
Stocks
I Bolded the ones I use heavily on a daily basis. The rest of them I barely touch.
You'll see that I use VERY little apps, but somehow my GNEX feels like its LAGGY!
I will honestly say I heavily use Google Chrome Browser 85% of the time on my phone. I like to open up 3-4 tabs at one. But this couldnt possibly be the sole reason why my phone is SO LAGGY!
lemonspeakers said:
Here's a list of exactly all the apps on my phone right now:
Stock browser
Stock calculator
Stock calendar
Stock camera
Stock Clock
Stock Document
Stock Downloads
Stock Gallery
Stock Messaging
Stock news/weather
Stock People
Stock Phone
Stock voice dialer
Google Chrome browser
Google Chrome to Phone
Google Drive
Google Gmail
Google
Google Settings
Google Play Music
Google Play store
Google Voice
Liquid Explorer (Came with liquid smooth)
"music" (Came with Liquid smooth)
Omniswitch (Came with LS)
Torch (came with LS)
Dropbox
Netflix
Pandora
Settings
Stocks
I Bolded the ones I use heavily on a daily basis. The rest of them I barely touch.
You'll see that I use VERY little apps, but somehow my GNEX feels like its LAGGY!
I will honestly say I heavily use Google Chrome Browser 85% of the time on my phone. I like to open up 3-4 tabs at one. But this couldnt possibly be the sole reason why my phone is SO LAGGY!
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What kernel you use?
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Godra said:
What kernel you use?
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Stock Liquid smooth rom and stock kernel.
I've tried this rom with dirty v and franco and they seem to lag the phone so I stayed with stock everything. Please note that I have tried this rom with both those kernels WITH ART enabled and disabled. Each time with a FULL data wipe.
lemonspeakers said:
Stock Liquid smooth rom and stock kernel.
I've tried this rom with dirty v and franco and they seem to lag the phone so I stayed with stock everything. Please note that I have tried this rom with both those kernels WITH ART enabled and disabled. Each time with a FULL data wipe.
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That's weird. I'm using LS as well paired with DirtyV and it runs just fine. I mean, it's not perfect but I would say it's fast as Android 4.1 was. And I'm using ART
How much of free storage you have?
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I agree with all of these guys about what they are saying but I heard nothing but good things about the gnex. Maybe your doing something wrong with it?
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P R O said:
I agree with all of these guys about what they are saying but I heard nothing but good things about the gnex. Maybe your doing something wrong with it?
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I've noticed that my navigation bar always consists of 5 items: Google Now, Back, Home, Recents and Last app.
I used those very frequently. To each one of those, I've also assigned a long press action to them: Bookmark#1, #2, Voice Command, Calculator and app drawer.
My nav ring has 5 item as well, with each their own long press.
I tend to launch each app not using the recents button, but rather the shortcuts that I've assigned them. That way, all apps I frequently access is only a single press or swipe away. The more buttons I press, the more I am annoyed.
^^ Could this be the reason why my phone laggs so much?
My ram shows that I have 176MB using dirty V RSR. And less )~60MB) with the others. But regardless, 176MB still feels like 60MB. Laggg..
mrgnex said:
Vanir with dirtyv/askp/askpremix (what i feel like lol) and nephs settings..
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OMG! Latest Vanir with ASKP Chamber of secrets is amazing!
My GNex now feels like a whole new phone. It's just flying! OMG!
OHHHHH MMMMYYYYGOOOOODDDNEESS! I love it so far.
So far I've tried to lag it by doing my daily stuff and so far, no laggs like I see on AOKP, PA, Liquid smooth or ASOB.
Something must be wrong with those other roms.
I'm going to keep playing with this rom and see how it turns out.
Goodness sake.
1. If you compare the Galaxy Nexus with the Nexus 5, you're trying to compare a ferrari 599 GTO with a Ferrari 360 spyder. -_- dafuq.
Yes spyder is fast, but the freaking technology advanced by 3 years.
2. Performance is not completely comprimised. It's by how much you make the ROM lean, and how efficient each custom kernel runs on your device.
3. Make sure the KERNEL you use has the optimizations you want.
Cheers.
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Amperific said:
2. Performance is not completely comprimised. It's by how much you make the ROM lean, and how efficient each custom kernel runs on your device.
3. Make sure the KERNEL you use has the optimizations you want.
Cheers.
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I've noticed the most lag when I use the Google Chrome Browser.
I tend to always have at lest 2 tabs going.
What kernel or kernel optimization should I be looking for in order to maximize the Galaxy Nexus for this particular task?
I started using Chrome Beta instead of regular Chrome few weeks ago. For me, it feels a liitle smoother
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...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!
Kustaa said:
...when it should be something like Hype, Compare, Choose.
I'm just posting this because it's crazy how we become kind of addicts to the cutting edge versions of Android, no matter how it really works on our device, it is just awesome because it works, on our beloved 3 years old nexus.
I'm the kind of guy who really search for smoothness, all around the system. I just can't stand a frame drop. It's kind of creepy. No, seriously, I look for details, and there's some things in KitKat I don't like. But all that said, and as I once read, if your eyes see at 15 fps it's not my fault lol. So, here they are:
- Notifications panel / Quick settings animation. Yes, guess what, the frame drop here is aweful. It stutters like hell. Just do it, expand the status bar and hit the tile many times, that's not smooth at all.
- RAM usage. They can say KK is optimized and bla bla, but real thing is that there's less free RAM than JB. It's a fact. You can go all the way of how Android manage memory and stuff, well, I rather more free RAM.
- Home button responsiveness. It just lags. Test it, open an app, something heavy e.g. Facebook app, and press home button. Now do the same but use back button. Give it a few tries if you didn't notice the difference at the first time.
- High battery drain.
There are some other things but you get the point. I felt less responsiveness in general, when multitasking, etc. So I decided to go back to Android 4.3.1 JB, CM 10.2.1 in my particular case. Oh yes, this feels awesome. Notifications panel / Quick settings animation is fully smooth, I've more free ram, Home button reaction is fast again, multitasking is great. I also realized that I missed the Vanilla ui. This is definitely where I'm staying.
So my conclusion is, you can follow the hype but don't stay just with the new things, make your own judgement, compare and choose what's your most suitable rom/android version out there
NOTES:
- I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos looking for this issues I've mentioned, so I discard problems with my Maguro in particular.
- I'm comparing both Android versions with the same apps (around 140 total apps), so there's no factory reset placebo effect.
- They're all present on different roms i.e CM, PA, and some others, so its KK related I guess.
- A particular thing about CM 10.2.1 is that it cames with a modified phase beam live wallpaper that slows down the launcher/system, don't get wrong this first bad impression , try another live wallpaper and you'll see how smooth is it. It runs great, using live or static wallpapers. What I did was delete the phasebeam.apk and push the stock 4.3 phasebeam.apk, that works good :good:.
- Hey! There's some good KK themes for old Theme Chooser if you want the KK look.
Anyway, here's another reason to not to ask what's the best rom for my GN.
This is just my personal opinion.
Hope you've enjoyed the post, and go try yourself!
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I agree with the problems you mentioned and i do want speed, stability and smoothness.
I noticed those things when i first upgraded to KK.
To overcome those challenges, i tried all the roms (CM Remix, Cm11, PA, Omni, Omni FML, geyers, AOKP, etc..) with stock kernels and then with DIRTY V and Fancy.
More ram is available with dirty v, fancy and stock PA kernel.
Afterall, i choose my personal set up which is smooth and stable for my device. i am satisfied with it now.
With Android you always have a choice of tweaking, upgrading or downgrading from JB > KK. so choose whats best for you :good:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
hemantv said:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!
hemantv said:
Even I've been thinking of try CM 10 for a while but I just can't leave KitKat. For me, latest Android version is important but this lag makes me feel bad. So I try to manage the performance using better kernel and not using apps like Facebook but it isn't enough. There is still lag in some or the other screen.
I bought Galaxy Nexus in last 9 months only so I couldn't use Android 4.3 roms much and thus I don't have much info about them. What do you think, should I give it a try? Also, which rom would you recommend?
Thanks.
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try the paranoid 3.99 based on 4.3
I remember it was really smooth
Kustaa said:
As I said, you'll have to try my friend
If you want my opinion, CM 10.2.1 Stable is awesome. Rock solid. You should make a nandroid backup of your current rom and go try some 4.3 stuff! In worst scenario you'll be restoring the nandroid and that's it!
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I agree with you on everything you said. I think I even went back to CM 10.X (not sure the exact one), but it was much better than anything I had before. I am on PA 4.44 and my data loses connection often and not sure why. The version of CM though, I would put it on airplane mode and my battery would still be drained the next day when other versions I didn't have that issue. That's one reason I went to another ROM, but it appears I am just going through ROMS like crazy trying to find the one I like most. To me...battery life is the most important.
decisions.
when i stopped using google framework with all those apps you dont have to use...
i found my battery lasting much longer
setting my kernel to lazy...while turning up voltage and over hertz. gives it enough speed...with enough "crash"
to stay up for 3 to 4 days, just sitting there
and 1 to 2 while in normal use.
and using up my data....well no one is going to get much up time like that
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
tarikkert71 said:
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
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Your question will not get you a clear answer as you need to match your specific user profile and previous devices with those saying the device is laggy. I do not find my Tab S 10.5 laggy on stock, rooted 5.0.2. I'm not a gamer and mainly use the device for media consumption (reading news, YouTube, Netflix and email), none of which is too taxing. I replaced the stock launcher with Nova Prime launcher and used Titanium Backup to freeze the majority of bloat wear which reduced the start times and memory used. My previous devices are a Nexus 5 phone and a Nexus 10 tablet.
Using this kind of analysis you may be able to determine if this tablet is "laggy" for your personal usage profile.
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Root?
Thanks for the reply,
May I ask why you rooted it? Didn't you like the bloatware, or was it kinda not responsive?
I'm not sure where and when this lag occurs, but I've never experienced it.
However I'm not a gamer.
It doesn't lag in games in my experience. However, IMO it lags when you are switching between apps and launching apps, which is weird because I often use the multiwindow feature and the tablet is clearly capable of running two apps at the same time.
Btw, the reason why some people think it doesn't lag is because lag is a very subjective issue. What I consider lag may be totally acceptable to others.
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It doesn't lag in games in my experience. However, IMO it lags when you are switching between apps and launching apps, which is weird because I often use the multiwindow feature and the tablet is clearly capable of running two apps at the same time.
Btw, the reason why some people think it doesn't lag is because lag is a very subjective issue. What I consider lag may be totally acceptable to others.
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Well I compare it to my htc m8 which is a powerful device in its own right and it compares admirably most of the time.
I think it's mostly down to TouchWiz not the hardware. Just too much bumpf under the hood.
Samsung need to learn that most people don't want all that baggage and to provide a more minimal experience. They can always offer the extras as optional downloads.
However I must say things like Web browsing have improved with lollipop and the stock browser. Its about the smoothest experience of all the available browsers.
ashyx said:
Well I compare it to my htc m8 which is a powerful device in its own right and it compares admirably most of the time.
I think it's mostly down to TouchWiz not the hardware. Just too much bumpf under the hood.
Samsung need to learn that most people don't want all that baggage and to provide a more minimal experience. They can always offer the extras as optional downloads.
However I must say things like Web browsing have improved with lollipop and the stock browser. Its about the smoothest experience of all the available browsers.
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Oh yes. Having used a Nexus 4 I know how smooth stock android can be. Samsung installs way too much crap on their devices, but I like the multi window feature too much to give up touchwiz. Last I heard the multiwindow feature still hasn't been implemented in AOSP Marshmallow.
Stock browser is amazing. I used to use chrome but it lagged like crazy. Not sure how Google can screw up chrome that badly, but then again chrome is a resource hog even on Windows.
NEver be a gamer on tablet, i always use it for media comsumption.
but, yeah, it's kinda laggy because my tablets installed with pre installed apps + full google apps.
And it's kinda lag sometime.
If you have Root, install Kernel Aduitor (free). The only thing you need to change is the Min CPU freq, 250 mhz is pretty slow.
450 or 650 mhz get things snappy.
tarikkert71 said:
Thanks for the reply,
May I ask why you rooted it? Didn't you like the bloatware, or was it kinda not responsive?
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I rooted for a few reasons. Proper device backups with Titanium Backups, superior audio with Viper4Android, Stickmount and immersion mode with GDM Gesture Control plus it's customized gestures. I use those root apps on all my devices.
I froze apps as several were being automatically started at boot time slowing down startup and unnecessarily using memory. I wanted a cleaner experience. The unwanted apps also clutter up your app menu, making it slightly more difficult to find the app you wanted to start. In general I freeze over removing as you cannot use that much of the freed up space except for SuperSU, Viper4Androis and Busybox. There are a few more but far less than the space freed by removing bloat wear.
I also dark themed TW settings and the notification bar as I cannot stand white backgrounds with black text but that was secondary to the root reasons listed above.
Due to the ability to root without tripping KNOX I could root without loosing my warranty. Without that I would have waited for a year until the warranty expired.
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steamrollerpark said:
If you have Root, install Kernel Aduitor (free). The only thing you need to change is the Min CPU freq, 250 mhz is pretty slow.
450 or 650 mhz get things snappy.
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Does that work on the stock kernel if you are rooted?
tarikkert71 said:
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
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For what it's worth, b4 I rooted I used Package Disabler pro and disabled 104 different services/packages. It made a huge difference and everything worked just fine. But, I got the rooting fever and now I'm even happier with my Tab S.
TiTiB (tweak it 'til it breaks) ¤ Galaxy Tab S | SMT-T700 | klimtwifi ¤ AICP 5.1.1
Yes, running stock here.