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[Q] Anyone know of an "all bands" 3g Android phone?

Given the fun and FUD surrounding the AT&T-Mobile merge, does anyone know of an Android phone that can play 3g on *anyone's* GSM network? I noticed that the crApple Ipuke 4 has 4 3g bands (presumably so they can have "One SKU to connect them all") Are there any Droids with that capability?

There are some phones listed as "Coming Soon" under the tmo site that have all bands. I'm not sure that any are available at this time.

tronmech said:
Given the fun and FUD surrounding the AT&T-Mobile merge, does anyone know of an Android phone that can play 3g on *anyone's* GSM network? I noticed that the crApple Ipuke 4 has 4 3g bands (presumably so they can have "One SKU to connect them all") Are there any Droids with that capability?
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So far the only phone capable of ALL GSM Bands is Nokia N8. No Android or Windows or the Apple is capable of doing so as of now... iPhone doesn't support 1700...
AT&T might have such a phone in future if the merger ever happens... And man, that will be an awesome feeling to have a phone of my choice of OS and I don't have to bother being restricted with one career...
I am worried, if Canada will ever see that phone... :-(

The Samsung Vibrant has the 1900 band which works for AT&T (AT&T use 850,1900), so it may cover all area, but it works in NYC
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creativedevil said:
... And man, that will be an awesome feeling to have a phone of my choice of OS and I don't have to bother being restricted with one career...
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Lol cell phone career giving you choice? Thats the best joke i have ever heard

Not sure what the original question is exactly, because GSM is really only one band around 900 Mhz. My understanding is this is normally used for EDGE, and 3G speeds / HSPA usually occurs only on the much higher frequencies.
And technically speaking, there is no GSM in the Americas, only in Eurasia. Here we have 850Mhz which should be referred to as CLR not GSM.
But if you're talking about Android phones that are 3G capable on both AWS frequencies (T-Mobile) and PCS (AT&T, Bell), check out the newly-announced LG G2X. Appears to have frequency bands for both, as well of course as CLR (Edge speeds).
The iPhone 4 does *NOT* have such a radio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands

The N1 has you covered on most bands, but not quite all of them. By the time the merger goes through, though, there will probably be more and better options.

linkmaster_6 said:
Lol cell phone career giving you choice? Thats the best joke i have ever heard
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Hahaha very funny, isn't it? Well, its not... cuz you obviously didn't get the point... Its not a choice given by career, its about the the contracts you have to go with... and if there ever is a phone which can support all the frequencies, it will give an option to switch between any GSM providers. Currently it is only possible with Nokia N8...

The G2x should support all popular bands.
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Anomaly said:
The G2x should support all popular bands.
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Unfortunately it doesn't for 3G connection.
http://www.gsmarena.com/t_mobile_g2x-3888.php

[SOLVED] T989 works on ATT 3G

Tmobile website listed 850mzh umts, anyone tried with att sim yet? or we need to unlock the phone first?

yes this phone works on all carriers

do we have to unlock first? or phone comes unlocked?

excellent question
i'd like to know that too, as i'm waiting for it as well

he was referring to weather or not it supports at&t HSPA+

shapiro1234567890 said:
he was referring to weather or not it supports at&t HSPA+
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and that was the answer...

TMONews.com alludes to this question as well...
I guess Allgamer confirmed the million dollar question for all of us
I guess this will be my future-proof phone (at&t merger or not) for the next year or so.

this is definitely the best phone for a while, until another beast comes along on a quad band hspda+
this phone is literally a 4x4
you can switch to any GSM cell phone provider that you want with the same phone without thinking twice.

i just bought the phone full price.
on the phone box it listed.
gsm 850, 900, 1800, 1900.
umts band 1 (2100), band II (1900), band iv (1700), band V (850)!
so this phone does supports 850/1900 3g too!

Well this is good news at least... I guess this phone is the lube that will make the brutal takeover a bit less painful.

It passed the FCC with AT&T 3G support, there is NO question that it has AT&T 3G support.

heygrl said:
It passed the FCC with AT&T 3G support, there is NO question that it has AT&T 3G support.
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So did another recent (in the past 6 months) T-Mobile phone, the G2x. The specs said it etc. I wasn't until after the phone was released and some people actually tried it that they found out it didn't work.
Same caution should go with this device, until someone puts a bloody AT&T sim in it and gets a testable connection treat the specs, web and box with a grain of salt.

rahlquist said:
So did another recent (in the past 6 months) T-Mobile phone, the G2x. The specs said it etc. I wasn't until after the phone was released and some people actually tried it that they found out it didn't work.
Same caution should go with this device, until someone puts a bloody AT&T sim in it and gets a testable connection treat the specs, web and box with a grain of salt.
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No, the G2X was not tested by the FCC for AT&T 3G

heygrl said:
No, the G2X was not tested by the FCC for AT&T 3G
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Sorry again part of the confusions surrounding the G2X was a possible misstating by several blogs. http://pocketnow.com/android/lg-p999-passes-fcc-is-t-mobiles-g2x for example.
In the end though even if the FCC tests the phone to support those frequencies, the manuf lists the support and t-mob lists the support, until its tested by multiple users I wouldn't believe it. Sorry but I have been burned by to many manuf lies (I own a captivate need I say more) and too much incorrect information.

rahlquist said:
Sorry again part of the confusions surrounding the G2X was a possible misstating by several blogs. http://pocketnow.com/android/lg-p999-passes-fcc-is-t-mobiles-g2x for example.
In the end though even if the FCC tests the phone to support those frequencies, the manuf lists the support and t-mob lists the support, until its tested by multiple users I wouldn't believe it. Sorry but I have been burned by to many manuf lies (I own a captivate need I say more) and too much incorrect information.
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That model number is for a different LG G2X that T-Mobile didn't sell.
The T-Mobile Galaxy S II is IDENTICAL to the Telus Galaxy S II X - it has 850/1700/1900 WCDMA bands. You can stop the skepticism.

heygrl said:
That model number is for a different LG G2X that T-Mobile didn't sell.
The T-Mobile Galaxy S II is IDENTICAL to the Telus Galaxy S II X - it has 850/1700/1900 WCDMA bands. You can stop the skepticism.
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Ahhh so if they are identical then I presume someone tested it on that one?
Specs schmecks like I said until tested its rumored to be supported. I'd love to see confirmations from a reputable source that they have taken an AT&T sim and popped it in. Until that happens people should be cautious is all I am saying. Don't buy a phone and get locked into a contract for a spec thats unproven. Just because the hardware support is there doesn't mean the software can even use it.
I'm not skeptical of that which is proven but I am cynical of that which is quoted without proof. It' not you, or anyone else in this thread but after a years of dealing with telco and manufacturer broken promises, half truth's and specs that are just this side of outright lies...

did LG G2x listed umts 850/1900 on phone box?
this tmobile galaxy s2 does listed umts 850/1900 on phone box!
that is like saying on a honda sticker it listed 500 hp and the car only has 200hp, that' fault advertising, you can sue them!

That is true, they speculated that the G2x COULD have AT&T 3G but didn't "unlock" the feature. There is only one true way to figure this all out, that is to unlock the phone and try an AT&T 3G sim in it

netnerd said:
did LG G2x listed umts 850/1900 on phone box?
this tmobile galaxy s2 does listed umts 850/1900 on phone box!
that is like saying on a honda sticker it listed 500 hp and the car only has 200hp, that' fault advertising, you can sue them!
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My captivate listed on the box it had a gps, oh its got one allright but it aint worth a crap.
Just because the box says it has it doesn't mean it functions well. It just means its present. It may drop a AT&T 3g call every second due to a software bug that may never get fixed.
Then again it may have a better tuned antenna than the AT&T SGS II and get better reception. We just dont know. We know what the marketing material says but they doe come out and say oops sometimes.

ok guys... this conversation is getting a bit derailed.
The original question and answer is for the SGH-T989 nothing to do with the LG G2x
so stop comparing Orange vs Lemons, or at least make a new topic for your comparison, instead of hijacking this topic
Thanks

Nexus vs Galaxy S2 LTE

First off I'm sorry if this is the wrong forum, MODs please move if it is.
Ok so I haven't seen that many reviews on the Rogers version of Samsung galaxy S2 LTE (not the HD from korea). Right now I debating between which one I should pick up. I had a Samsung S1 (i9000m from Bell) and I've always loved it. I love modding phones (ie custom ROM and other stuff). I plan on doing on these as well. The pros for S2 LTE is that: it is LTE compatible, 8mp back 2mp front camera, slight better processor (though I doubt there will be a big difference in performance).
Wheres the Nexus pros is that it is HD and has ICS, slightly better battery life, and of course being nexus, first in line for updates. The screen is also slightly bigger. It just sucks that the LTE from rogers isn't HD like the korean counterpart.
I do live in a LTE enabled zone so I will be able to utilize it (6GB data plan). Any thought on what phone is better? I've went in and tested both out and I honestly can't decide. I love the screen on the nexus but also the camera + LTE on the S2 balances out.

Deviatorz said:
First off I'm sorry if this is the wrong forum, MODs please move if it is.
Ok so I haven't seen that many reviews on the Rogers version of Samsung galaxy S2 LTE (not the HD from korea). Right now I debating between which one I should pick up. I had a Samsung S1 (i9000m from Bell) and I've always loved it. I love modding phones (ie custom ROM and other stuff). I plan on doing on these as well. The pros for S2 LTE is that: it is LTE compatible, 8mp back 2mp front camera, slight better processor (though I doubt there will be a big difference in performance).
Wheres the Nexus pros is that it is HD and has ICS, slightly better battery life, and of course being nexus, first in line for updates. The screen is also slightly bigger. It just sucks that the LTE from rogers isn't HD like the korean counterpart.
I do live in a LTE enabled zone so I will be able to utilize it (6GB data plan). Any thought on what phone is better? I've went in and tested both out and I honestly can't decide. I love the screen on the nexus but also the camera + LTE on the S2 balances out.
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Personally I'd go with the Nexus because the processor is almost up to par with the Exynos in the GSII vs the GSII LTE has a Qualcomm Snapdragon, which for day to day tasks is good, but GPU performance is nowhere near the Mali 400 in the Exynos.
AT&T has the Galaxy S II Skyrocket HD which is pretty much the Korean GSII with a 4-button layout. It sounds exactly like what you're looking for.

Had the at&t galaxy s2 lte and took it back. Qualcomm snapdragon sucks compared to the omap in fhe nexus, but had to use it for lte.
Nexus is so much more fluid day to day i would not look twice at the lte unless you really need limited lte .

Sounds like nexus is still the top. I might just pick it up. Idk something about the shape of the phone just doesn't catch me. Btw is the nexus 4G capable? While looking through the specs, it said its 3G or maybe that website is wrong?

Deviatorz said:
Sounds like nexus is still the top. I might just pick it up. Idk something about the shape of the phone just doesn't catch me. Btw is the nexus 4G capable? While looking through the specs, it said its 3G or maybe that website is wrong?
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It supports 4G on both GSM & LTE variants of the phone.

Deviatorz said:
Sounds like nexus is still the top. I might just pick it up. Idk something about the shape of the phone just doesn't catch me. Btw is the nexus 4G capable? While looking through the specs, it said its 3G or maybe that website is wrong?
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It is an HSPA+ device. Which is the faster 3G on AT&T (like "4G"). It is not LTE on AT&T.
zephiK said:
It supports 4G on both GSM & LTE variants of the phone.
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Ehhh. It supports HSPA+ on the GSM version. and it supports LTE on the CDMA version.

martonikaj said:
It is an HSPA+ device. Which is the faster 3G on AT&T (like "4G"). It is not LTE on AT&T.
Ehhh. It supports HSPA+ on the GSM version. and it supports LTE on the CDMA version.
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In USA, AT&T and T-Mobile markets HSPA+ as 4G.
LTE is marketed as 4G.
Therefore, the GSM & LTE both supports 4G.

I don't believe it supports Tmo's 42mbps network, however. Or does it?

zephiK said:
In USA, AT&T and T-Mobile markets HSPA+ as 4G.
LTE is marketed as 4G.
Therefore, the GSM & LTE both supports 4G.
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Yes very true, but considering OP is comparing to a 4G LTE device on AT&T, it is a good idea to make the distinction that the Galaxy Nexus is HSPA+ and the Skyrocket (SGSII LTE) is an LTE phone.
adrynalyne said:
I don't believe it supports Tmo's 42mbps network, however. Or does it?
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It is only 21mbps. Anything over 14.4mbps T-Mobile calls 4G, however.
T-Mobile only has a couple 42mbps phones I think. The SGSII and the HTC Amaze 4G are the only 2 that come to mind.

penataband for Europe?

Sometime a go, there was a thread about variants of GNEX, from comments I understand that all GSM are same, only radio software is different,
but on some sites it not mention all 5 3G bands, and only 3 for Europe,
also what about 2.4 and 5 Ghz for WIFI? is it also suffers for Europe or something? or not? I kind of stuck, I really want the device with all standard accessories, mostly the charger, and not search for it, after I buy,
and also be sure it support 850 & 2100 for 3G, the S have also many variants, as SII have toooo many of them, so how can I find out about that issue?

As I said in the other thread... They're all pentaband. Every single model. And yes they support 5ghz wifi.

martonikaj said:
As I said in the other thread... They're all pentaband. Every single model. And yes they support 5ghz wifi.
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Well all but the CDMA (Verizon USA model)
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_Dennis_ said:
Well all but the CDMA (Verizon USA model)
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Sorry yes. Obviously. You would've had to read the really long thread before where OP wouldn't take my word for it that any i9250 is pentaband...

I think I got it now, I just used to that for US & EU have different frequency devices, see I used to work to one of the mobile manufacturers, and we have sometime 2 type of devices, one for EU and other for US, and maybe it's hard to believe that unicorns exists, heh on the second hand, on old GSM it also not always a "world" phones so it do make sense,
and another funny thing, also 850 band I actually US, here in Israel we use it..because of the ARMY ...to make things even worse, the QUAD GSM no worth to much, as 2 of our providers that still have GSM, have only 1 frequency, the solution was to "share" the networks ,We do have HSPA+, but the future will be LTE ..dunno why, also no 4G here ,the mobile internet cost to much and slow as ****

[Q] LG Optimus G E970: Would you buy one today?

I want to upgrade from my S2 to a new phone. I love the Nexus4, BUT, has no SD slot, and you can not even order one.
So, I was thinking on the Optimus G. Now, my question for all of you with the handset is, would you still buy it today?
One important thing for me is "hackability", meaning, I want to run clear/custom roms on it, as I do not like bloatware.
In that regard, the S2 is wonderful, and we already have JB 4.2.1 running very smoothly.
Why I'm interested on the Optimus G? As far as I understand is VERY similar to the Nexus 4, and so I assume it would be easy to have roms ported from it.
So, what are your thoughts?

As for today, thats the best phone on market, but its mid of January already, so a new/better models will come out really soon.

Thanks Tim4, for your response.
Lets forget that a new one would probably come out soon, would you still buy it considering all the I said, specially the hackability request?

Tough to say as there is currently development towards more solid bootloader and rooting options but who knows how it will all pan out. Same goes with roms, there is not a lot yet so who knows.
I am rooted and have frozen/uninstalled the apps that I don't want on the device so for me this is good enough. The phone itself is fantastic and I'm very pleased with it, even without JB. But yes, news phones like s4 and xperia z will give the g a run for it if not beat it outright, but regardless of that this phone is a beast.
Sent from my LG-E973 using xda app-developers app

Well, to put you in context, I went and bought a Razr MAXX. In brief, very poor roms support, so I sold it after 2 days.

There are too many versions for Optimus G, US has E970, Canadian has 971,973, Korean has their version, also the international version E975 might gonna come out soon. ROM development might takes longer I think. At least we gotta wait until LG release the 4.1.2 JB in order to have more JB ROMs
About the phone. I had the S II too, I loved it. I think Optimus G has even better design, and of course more powerful.
Running great on CM10.1, I believe it will be even better when LG comes out the JB source.
So, if you likes the phone, how it looks, then go for it.
sent from my Optimus G E971

bryanlimy said:
There are too many versions for Optimus G, US has E970, Canadian has 971,973, Korean has their version, also the international version E975 might gonna come out soon. ROM development might takes longer I think. At least we gotta wait until LG release the 4.1.2 JB in order to have more JB ROMs
About the phone. I had the S II too, I loved it. I think Optimus G has even better design, and of course more powerful.
Running great on CM10.1, I believe it will be even better when LG comes out the JB source.
So, if you likes the phone, how it looks, then go for it.
sent from my Optimus G E971
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Thanks for your reply.
I want the AT&T version E970, cause it is compatible with my country 3G bands, unless all have the same bands, or are quad band or something, or unless there is a problem with the E970 one.
You coming from the S2, do you think his battery last longer? How much longer? I'm asking cause I realized that the battery is non removable, and I'm always about 2 to 4 hours short on the S2.
Thanks!

The E973 already has a near perfect CyanogenMod 10.1 port, AOKP 4.2.1 build and of course an unlocked boot loader and can be rooted. So I'm pretty happy with this, especially since the big two are already on board. Team Nocturnal is also working on this phone.
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Compare to S II, the battery on Optimus G (E971) is a lot longer. For S II, I used to bring 2 extra batteries with me just in case, but now with OG I don't need to bring my extreme battery.
I would say around 30-40% more.
On both stock and CM10.1
sent from my Optimus G E971

Thanks Tim4, for your response.
Lets forget that a new one would probably come out soon, would you still buy it considering all the I said, specially the hackability request?
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Yeah, i would.
The international version of optimus g still didnt appear on market, i believe that the main reason of slow developing.
USA/Korea/Canada/Japan and may be AUS the only countries optimus g available in.
Btw some guy asked LG about the international version, and he was told it definitely will out in Q1

vpetkar said:
The E973 already has a near perfect CyanogenMod 10.1 port, AOKP 4.2.1 build and of course an unlocked boot loader and can be rooted. So I'm pretty happy with this, especially since the big two are already on board. Team Nocturnal is also working on this phone.
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Well, I'm mostly interested on the E970 or E971 versions, as the 3G is compatible with my country, the E973 is not. How is the root/roms/etc on those?
By the way, this table is correct?
LG Optimus G E970
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
LG Optimus G E971 (Rogers)
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 2600
LG Optimus G E973 / LG F180
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
4G Network LTE ???
bryanlimy said:
Compare to S II, the battery on Optimus G (E971) is a lot longer. For S II, I used to bring 2 extra batteries with me just in case, but now with OG I don't need to bring my extreme battery. I would say around 30-40% more.On both stock and CM10.1
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That is VERY GOOD NEWS!
Tim4 said:
Yeah, i would.
The international version of optimus g still didnt appear on market, i believe that the main reason of slow developing.
USA/Korea/Canada/Japan and may be AUS the only countries optimus g available in. Btw some guy asked LG about the international version, and he was told it definitely will out in Q1
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What would be the advantage of the international version?

The advantage is more users will use optimus g = more developers will appear here = more custom roms will be available

Make the move bro! I went from the S2 to the AT&T Optimus G, originally i was going to upgrade to the overrated S3 or wait on the S4(but found out rumors saying screen size is 4.99inch which is too big and rocking Exynos Octa Core which i doubt we'd need and delay of how long USA would get a version) But a nice rep from AT&T store recommended the OG, and i have to say is i am blown away with the looks and performance of the device. The only deal breaker is the lack of accessories like an OEM car dock and non-removable but sooner or later everyone will transistion to non removable battery. Yes the LGOG is lacking ROM Dev, but i know that this is a fairly new device, give it a couple weeks to a few months and development will go crazy!
I never looked back, yes the S2 was a slamming device even up to now, but i needed to update and the OG is good enough rocking the first Quad Core CPU with LTE bands

This phone is simply amazing. Screen is beautiful, absolutely no lags on heavy multitasking, good battery, lte.. Even on mostly stock rom, simply the best phone to get into my hands. The screen, man.. The screen And the fluidity.. - - It is a joy to use, still looks like a (sexy, classy, sleek) phone compared to the galaxy note 2's size, exemple.
Did I mention the amazing screen, and the fluidity of animations + browsing?
Sent from Optimus G using my Dog

I like the phone very much, but the lack of root/roms makes me very nervous

I just bought 2 today. They are buy one get one free at sprint.
I'm guessing the pro is coming very soon.